Monday, April 25, 2011

Re: Wringing-the-Neck of Empty Ritual.

J. Ashley: Both the left and the right resort to (unconstitutional)
name calling. The only difference when conservatives do it is this:
they say, "God-damned Liberals!" — J. A. A. —
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On Apr 22, 12:00 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
wrote:
> John,
>
> Once again you have failed to answer the question posed. Instead, you
> have used a liberal mainstay: you have resorted to name-calling. How
> utterly patriotic of you.
>
> On 04/22/2011 08:34 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
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> > J. Ashley:  You have failed to come up with a way to have the USA
> > survive with anarchy and zero taxes�your ideal.  So, bug-off,
> > airhead.  ï¿½  J. A. A. �
> > On Apr 21, 9:47 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > wrote:
> >> John,
>
> >> You have failed to come up with a plan for putting YOUR New Constitution
> >> before the People for a vote.
>
> >>> Jonathan:  You get only one vote.  Whether or not my New Constitution
> >>> ratifies will be determined by the popular vote of the People, without
> >>> any state boundaries�the way all presidential elections must be in
> >>> order to be fair!  ï¿½ J. A. Armistead �
> >>> On Apr 21, 11:53 am, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> INLINE:
> >>>> On 04/20/2011 08:25 PM, NoEinstein wrote:>    Jonathan:  You should move to Alaska and build yourself a log cabin in
> >>>>> the wilderness.
> >>>> How do you know that I don't live in a log cabin in Alaska?>    Since you would be living by your own hand, you would
> >>>>> have nothing to be taxed, and thus should be happy.
> >>>> I do not pay income taxes now.>       The POWER in my
> >>>>> New Constitution is revealed only by having a problem, then reading my
> >>>>> document and realizing that the solution to that problem is spelled-
> >>>>> out!
> >>>> YOUR New Constitution does not (and never will have) any "POWER." It
> >>>> will never be enacted.>    Frequently, the answers are found on several non-contiguous
> >>>>> pages.  But anyone who can read will see that they are protected.
> >>>> Can you say: convoluted.>    For
> >>>>> example: Though the words "speeding ticket" are never used, I can
> >>>>> guarantee you that no municipality in the country will ever pull over
> >>>>> anyone for a victimless crime.  My New Constitution prohibits having
> >>>>> any "fines" go to the government.  So, there is no motive for pulling
> >>>>> anyone over, since none of that fine can go to defray the cost of
> >>>>> government.
> >>>> How do you propose to enforce such a guarantee?>    Fines can be used for helping groups like United Way,
> >>>>> however.
> >>>> That would still fall under the category of "theft" of my property.>    If the police pull you over, it is they who will be most in
> >>>>> jeopardy of getting fired or jailed if they aren't deferential to
> >>>>> you.  And no person is required to show their �ID� to anyone.  The
> >>>>> police can�t, on a whim, stop anyone and ask to see �your papers� like
> >>>>> Nazis did in Germany.  They must be respectful of the people, unless
> >>>>> someone is known (beyond reasonable doubt) to have committed some
> >>>>> crime.  Then, and only then can the police play their game of cops and
> >>>>> robbers. � J. A. A. �
> >>>> Again, how do you propose to enforce such a guarantees?
> >>>>> On Apr 20, 12:31 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> John,
> >>>>>> As usual, I find several problem with what you wrote.
> >>>>>> 1) YOUR New Constitution is so convoluted that those who gained power
> >>>>>> under it would be using it for a doormat within months of its passage.
> >>>>>> (That point is mute, however, since YOUR New Constitution will NEVER
> >>>>>> gain acceptance.)
> >>>>>> 2) Any form of government that requires me -- through taxation (e.g.,
> >>>>>> theft) -- to perpetuate its existence is unacceptable.
> >>>>>> 3) Civil liberties are privileges that are granted. That is in direct
> >>>>>> opposition to freedom. Freedom is "a state of exemption from the power
> >>>>>> or control of another." If a government exists, those living under its
> >>>>>> dictates (however benevolent they may appear), are never free. Under any
> >>>>>> form of government, freedom is always illegal.
> >>>>>> 4) Government is "social engineering."
> >>>>>> On 04/20/2011 01:32 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>> Dear Jonathan:  I read your self description of your being an
> >>>>>>> anarchist.  Is that why you dislike having a New Constitution that
> >>>>>>> actually tells government what it can and cannot do?  The very best
> >>>>>>> and most efficient government would be a wise, benevolent
> >>>>>>> dictatorship.  But that would end when the dictator died.  Government
> >>>>>>> under my New Constitution is mandated to be run efficiently.  And
> >>>>>>> "social engineering" is banned.  You should be on my side, because my
> >>>>>>> New Constitution will have civil liberties that are the maximum, and
> >>>>>>> costs that are approaching the minimum.  That means all Americans will
> >>>>>>> get to keep most of their hard-earned money!  Would you rather have
> >>>>>>> Democrats stealing your money?  Then, rally behind my save-the-USA
> >>>>>>> document!  ï¿½ J. A. Armistead �  Patriot
> >>>>>>> On Apr 18, 3:03 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> John,
> >>>>>>>> That you own stock in a company that routinely downgrades websites based
> >>>>>>>> on "link relevance" over "content relevance" says much about your
> >>>>>>>> credibility regarding the understanding of what freedom of expression means.
> >>>>>>>> That you believe Obama "has caused more economic and social harm to the
> >>>>>>>> USA than any other person who ever lived, including Hitler" seems
> >>>>>>>> ludicrous. Just how has he (as an individual) been able to pull off this
> >>>>>>>> tremendous task?
> >>>>>>>> On 04/17/2011 09:05 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Dear Mark:  I own Google stock.  It's an American multinational
> >>>>>>>>> Corporation that's headquartered in Mountain View, California.  Google
> >>>>>>>>> World shows the new complex quite well.  In many ways you are very
> >>>>>>>>> naive.  Your obvious desire to protect Barack Obama's neck from the
> >>>>>>>>> noose is tantamount to looking-the-other-way to those who commit
> >>>>>>>>> TREASON every day of their existence.  Would you put on moderation
> >>>>>>>>> someone who proposes that Libyan President Kadafi should be killed?
> >>>>>>>>> Do you suppose it is Google's obligation to protect those who kill
> >>>>>>>>> their citizens?  Hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans have
> >>>>>>>>> committed suicide because of the bad economy and the lack of jobs
> >>>>>>>>> resulting from Obama's socialist-capitalist policies.  He has caused
> >>>>>>>>> more economic and social harm to the USA than any other person who
> >>>>>>>>> ever lived, including Hitler.
> >>>>>>>>> Treason is a recognized capital offense.  Those in our government and
> >>>>>>>>> in our law enforcement who don't press to have that bastard arrested,
> >>>>>>>>> tried and hanged are themselves in violation of the Constitution for
> >>>>>>>>> giving aid and comfort to the enemy.  Keith suggested that you,
> >>>>>>>>> Jonathan and MJ are anxious to read my next "missive".  He's viewed
> >>>>>>>>> you all in a favorable light, before.  As for me, I suspect you are so
> >>>>>>>>> screwed-up in the head that you are both for and against having a
> >>>>>>>>> better government.  That means you have schizophrenia.  Get some couch-
> >>>>>>>>> time, Mark.  You need it!  ï¿½  J. A. Armistead �  Patriot
> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 10:28 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE<markmka...@gmail.com>          wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Einstein,
> >>>>>>>>>> Again, you mistake me for someone that is liable under the present, or
> >>>>>>>>>> your future, US Constitution. The message you received is the standard
> >>>>>>>>>> message sent to all new or moderated members, get used to it. It
> >>>>>>>>>> originates from outside the US and is also not liable under US law.
> >>>>>>>>>> Isn't the internet grand when the originating country has the
> >>>>>>>>>> responsibility for what is or is not allowed under their law(s).
> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 7:11 pm, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net>          wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Keith:  I sensed that there was a common thread of "reasoning" in
> >>>>>>>>>>> those you name. My last missive, as you say, was explaining why Jews
> >>>>>>>>>>> are causing a lot of problems and expense while seeming to be such
> >>>>>>>>>>> nice people.  Israel should become a training place for successful
> >>>>>>>>>>> capitalism.  Only the latter can start to heal the deep wounds Muslims
> >>>>>>>>>>> feel.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Today, when I posted: "Can The Donald 'Fix' the Thin Ice that the USA
> >>>>>>>>>>> is skating on?"  There was a message (Mark's responsibility?) saying
> >>>>>>>>>>> that moderators must approve what I say.  Of course that in
> >>>>>>>>>>> UNCONSTITUTIONAL by both the present Constitution, and by my New
> >>>>>>>>>>> Constitution, which requires that Mark be fired from his job.  If you
> >>>>>>>>>>> butterfly conservatives are starting to understand what I'm saying,
> >>>>>>>>>>> then you should like to know that about 85% of my New Constitution has
> >>>>>>>>>>> now  been copied and pasted for interested citizens to read.  The last
> >>>>>>>>>>> 15% relates to problems with government which I have batted heads
> >>>>>>>>>>> with, first hand.  Once people begin showing appreciation for the 85%
> >>>>>>>>>>> of my non-Stalinesk document, the remainder will become available.
> >>>>>>>>>>> But NOT on this forum.  The full document will be presented as part of
> >>>>>>>>>>> a book containing my many essays and detailed rational for why this
> >>>>>>>>>>> country needs a New Constitution Now.  You guys can help speed things
> >>>>>>>>>>> along by talking-up my document on the NET.  ï¿½ John A. Armistead �
> >>>>>>>>>>> Patriot
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 4:17 pm, Keith In K�ln<keithinta...@gmail.com>          wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John!
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am atwitter with excitement and anticipation!  Jonathan,  Mark  and MJ are
> >>>>>>>>>>>> already chomping at the bit to sling complimentary praise and one of them
> >>>>>>>>>>>> maybe even will write a haiku in your honor!  Sugarshack Literal Truth might
> >>>>>>>>>>>> even have an orgasm in anticipation of reading your
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