Thursday, January 19, 2012

Obama to do nothing against Iran








 

 

[This comes from an Iranian news site www.mehrnews.com, and you have to assume the Iranian regime has to approve the slant of everything that goes out. Even so, the idea that Obama is still offering to engage the Mullahs, and being ridiculed for it, is more like a running joke over there than it is news or giving away state secrets. df]

 

 

 

Details of Obama's letter to Iran released

 

TEHRAN, Jan. 18 (MNA) -- A number of Iranian officials have released the details of the letter that U.S. President Barack Obama recently sent to Tehran.

 

The New York Times, citing U.S. government officials, wrote on January 12 that the Obama administration had sent a message to Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei warning that closing the Strait of Hormuz is a "red line" that would provoke a response by the United States.

 

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Ramin Mehmanparast said on January 15 that U.S. officials had sent a message on the Strait of Hormuz to the Islamic Republic through three officials, noting, "Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, delivered a letter to Mohammad Khazaii, the Islamic Republic of Iran's ambassador (to the UN). The Swiss ambassador to Tehran (Livia Leu Agosti) also conveyed the message, and Jalal Talabani, the Iraqi president, conveyed the message to officials of the Islamic Republic of Iran as well."

 

Obama has called for negotiations

 

MP Ali Motahhari said on Wednesday, "In the letter, it has been stated that 'closing the Strait of Hormuz is our red line' and they have requested direct negotiations."

 

"In the letter, Obama has announced readiness for negotiation and the resolution of mutual disagreements," he added.

 

He went on to say that Obama uttered threats in the first part of the letter and talked about friendship and negotiation in the second part.

 

Obama says U.S. will not take hostile action against Iran

 

MP Hojjatoleslam Hossein Ebrahimi said on Wednesday, "Obama's letter has several parts. Part of it is about this, (namely) that using international waterways is the right of all countries and all should benefit from them. And in this letter, he has described it as the United States' red line."

 

"In the letter, Obama has mentioned cooperation and negotiation based on the interests of the two countries," Ebrahimi, who is the deputy chairman of the Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Committee, told the Nasimonline news website.

 

"He has stated in the letter that they will not take any hostile action against the Islamic Republic of Iran," he added.

 

Ebrahimi also said, "This is not the first time that Obama has sent a message and letter to the Islamic Republic of Iran. He has repeatedly spoken in a soft tone about the Islamic Republic of Iran, but, in practice, he has not acted accordingly."

 

"Obama's letter indicates that the United States has become afraid of the Islamic Republic of Iran's might and has realized the point that an arrogant spirit is of no use, and therefore, he has softened his tone when speaking about the Islamic Republic of Iran," he stated.

 

He added, "The important issue is that without the Islamic Republic of Iran's permission, no country can benefit from the Persian Gulf."

 

Iran responsible for maintaining security of Persian Gulf

 

Expediency Council Secretary Mohsen Rezaii also commented on the letter on Wednesday, saying, "Mr. Obama has written a cunning letter and intended to claim that the U.S. is responsible for maintaining the security of the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz, while Iran itself is responsible for maintaining the security of this region."

 

"We maintain the security of the region with the help of regional countries," he said, adding, "There is no need for the presence of extra-regional forces to maintain the security of this region, and we believe that the presence of the United States and Britain mostly creates insecurity."

 

If they "feel compassion" for regional countries and want to help them enhance security in the region, "I advise them to leave the region," Rezaii stated.

 

###

 

Dan Friedman
NYC

 


 


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Re: We Need An American Energy Plan --' Strait' Away

Hey Mark!
 
I missed that point about "Regardless, we must attack Iran".   I'll go back and re-read the article.
 


 
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:27 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
Keith, I disagree with the tone that says regardless...we must attack
Iran. Just permanently station a fleet in the straight...it is
international water, they are close by anyway. Any attempt by Iran to
close the area could be RESPONDED to.

On Jan 19, 12:13 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Afternoon from Tampa PlainOl!
>
> To the point,  you apparently read Gingrich's energy thesis, (for lack of a
> better term)  and is there anything in there that you disagree with?
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:10 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Our energy supply should not be hostage to the whims of a dangerous
> > and erratic regime when we have enormous untapped resources right here
> > in the United States.
> > ---
> > yet neocon warmongers will use it as an excuse to blast Iran
>
> > when President Obama is faced with the prospect
> > of using military action to preserve oil routes a few miles from
> > Iran's
> > shore at the same time as he denies so much energy potential here at
> > home,
> > his priorities are profoundly wrong.
> > ----
> > O is a  socialist asshole that must be removed from our government
> > asap by any means necessary ... even if it means replacing him with
> > zionist warmongers who will keep the US in non-stop war with the
> > muzzies for oil and israel
>
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>
> > > One-fifth of the world's oil trade passes through a six-mile wide sea
> > > traffic lane in the Strait of Hormuz, bounded on one side by the Islamic
> > > Republic of Iran and on the other by the Arabian Peninsula.
>
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> > > way to deliver fuel to Europe, Asia, and the United States.
>
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> > cripple
> > > economies around the world. That is exactly why Iran's regime has
> > > threatened to close the Strait in retaliation if the United States or
> > > Europe takes serious steps to punish its pursuit of a nuclear weapon.
>
> > > It's not exactly an idle threat.
>
> > > With such a narrow chokepoint, the U.S. military has acknowledged Iran
> > > could likely close the Strait for a period using mines and conventional
> > > naval forces or even with more crude tactics like sinking barges in the
> > > shipping lanes. Iran recently spent 10 days conducting naval exercises in
> > > the area to prove it could close the Strait, and earlier this month armed
> > > Iranian speedboats harassed two U.S. Navy vessels in separate incidents.
>
> > > Even if Iran is unlikely to prevail in a naval conflict with the United
> > > States, the regime is so unpredictable that such a conflict could be
> > > dangerous and disruptive.
>
> > > With Europe confronting recession and the United States coping with slow
> > > growth and high unemployment, the spike in gas prices that would result
> > > could not come at worse time.
>
> > > The Iranian regime wants to force America and Europe to choose between
> > > higher energy prices  and deterring its nuclear development.
>
> > > Either outcome—an Iranian nuclear weapon or economic disaster from an oil
> > > shock—should be unacceptable to Americans.  After all of Iran's threats
> > > surrounding the Strait of Hormuz, how big a warning do we need to have an
> > > American energy policy that makes us independent from such conflicts?
>
> > > Our energy supply should not be hostage to the whims of a dangerous and
> > > erratic regime when we have enormous untapped resources right here in the
> > > United States.
>
> > > A real American energy policy would employ offshore oil and natural gas
> > > development, domestic oil shale, wind, biofuels, clean coal and nuclear
> > > energy to eliminate our dependence on oil from an unstable and unfriendly
> > > region of the world.
>
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>
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> > > development.  That's just the beginning. Oil and natural gas worth
> > hundreds
> > > of billions of dollars is sitting just off our coasts in land the
> > American
> > > people own but which the Obama administration refuses to allow to be
> > > developed.
>
> > > Since the President reneged in 2010 on a promise to allow oil and natural
> > > gas exploration on the federal lands of the Atlantic Outer Continental
> > > Shelf, states along the East Coast have been denied what could become an
> > > important source of revenue, tens of thousands of high-paying jobs, and
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> > > natural gas by more than 15-fold, 1,500 percent, in the last decade.
>
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> > development—and
> > > for that matter, its indecision on the Keystone XL pipeline—are
> > needlessly
> > > crippling our economy, thwarting thousands of good jobs, and keeping our
> > > energy supply vulnerable to Iranian aggression.
>
> > > Undoubtedly, the United States should do anything required to keep the
> > > Strait of Hormuz open. But when President Obama is faced with the
> > prospect
> > > of using military action to preserve oil routes a few miles from Iran's
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Re: Santorum wins Iowa?

I don't necessarily agree with all of Santorum's beliefs.   Again, this is where I think Santorum gets into the Federalist "Big Government"  mindset, only with several conservative principals and beliefs.  In my opinion,  Santorum is no different than the radical far left,  except that he would try to implement far right principals,  (and some of those principals which I do agree with;  I just don't believe the federal government should be involved)  through a large federal bureaucracy

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:12 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
What is it that scares you about Santorum
---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8P4xpxwPQk

On Jan 19, 11:53 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is it that scares you about Santorum Bear?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Bear Bear <thatbear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > *Apparently a recount gives the Iowa caucus vote gives the win to
> > Santorum. *
> > *After reading and seeing some of his statements. This guy scares me. And
> > it scares me more that so many people seem to agree with him. *
> > *
> > *
>
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Re: We Need An American Energy Plan --' Strait' Away

Keith, I disagree with the tone that says regardless...we must attack
Iran. Just permanently station a fleet in the straight...it is
international water, they are close by anyway. Any attempt by Iran to
close the area could be RESPONDED to.

On Jan 19, 12:13 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Afternoon from Tampa PlainOl!
>
> To the point,  you apparently read Gingrich's energy thesis, (for lack of a
> better term)  and is there anything in there that you disagree with?
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:10 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Our energy supply should not be hostage to the whims of a dangerous
> > and erratic regime when we have enormous untapped resources right here
> > in the United States.
> > ---
> > yet neocon warmongers will use it as an excuse to blast Iran
>
> > when President Obama is faced with the prospect
> > of using military action to preserve oil routes a few miles from
> > Iran's
> > shore at the same time as he denies so much energy potential here at
> > home,
> > his priorities are profoundly wrong.
> > ----
> > O is a  socialist asshole that must be removed from our government
> > asap by any means necessary ... even if it means replacing him with
> > zionist warmongers who will keep the US in non-stop war with the
> > muzzies for oil and israel
>
> > On Jan 19, 12:02 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > *by Newt Gingrich*
>
> > > Dear Keith,
>
> > > One-fifth of the world's oil trade passes through a six-mile wide sea
> > > traffic lane in the Strait of Hormuz, bounded on one side by the Islamic
> > > Republic of Iran and on the other by the Arabian Peninsula.
>
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> > > way to deliver fuel to Europe, Asia, and the United States.
>
> > > Cutting off this supply line would propel soaring energy prices and
> > cripple
> > > economies around the world. That is exactly why Iran's regime has
> > > threatened to close the Strait in retaliation if the United States or
> > > Europe takes serious steps to punish its pursuit of a nuclear weapon.
>
> > > It's not exactly an idle threat.
>
> > > With such a narrow chokepoint, the U.S. military has acknowledged Iran
> > > could likely close the Strait for a period using mines and conventional
> > > naval forces or even with more crude tactics like sinking barges in the
> > > shipping lanes. Iran recently spent 10 days conducting naval exercises in
> > > the area to prove it could close the Strait, and earlier this month armed
> > > Iranian speedboats harassed two U.S. Navy vessels in separate incidents.
>
> > > Even if Iran is unlikely to prevail in a naval conflict with the United
> > > States, the regime is so unpredictable that such a conflict could be
> > > dangerous and disruptive.
>
> > > With Europe confronting recession and the United States coping with slow
> > > growth and high unemployment, the spike in gas prices that would result
> > > could not come at worse time.
>
> > > The Iranian regime wants to force America and Europe to choose between
> > > higher energy prices  and deterring its nuclear development.
>
> > > Either outcome—an Iranian nuclear weapon or economic disaster from an oil
> > > shock—should be unacceptable to Americans.  After all of Iran's threats
> > > surrounding the Strait of Hormuz, how big a warning do we need to have an
> > > American energy policy that makes us independent from such conflicts?
>
> > > Our energy supply should not be hostage to the whims of a dangerous and
> > > erratic regime when we have enormous untapped resources right here in the
> > > United States.
>
> > > A real American energy policy would employ offshore oil and natural gas
> > > development, domestic oil shale, wind, biofuels, clean coal and nuclear
> > > energy to eliminate our dependence on oil from an unstable and unfriendly
> > > region of the world.
>
> > > America should never be faced with a choice either to appease regimes
> > like
> > > Iran's or to hinder our economy.
> > >     [image: r]
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> > > The obstacles to an American energy policy are political, bureaucratic,
> > and
> > > ideological.
>
> > > For instance, we have an estimated three times more oil than Saudi Arabia
> > > locked up in oil shale in western states, much of which is banned from
> > > development.  That's just the beginning. Oil and natural gas worth
> > hundreds
> > > of billions of dollars is sitting just off our coasts in land the
> > American
> > > people own but which the Obama administration refuses to allow to be
> > > developed.
>
> > > Since the President reneged in 2010 on a promise to allow oil and natural
> > > gas exploration on the federal lands of the Atlantic Outer Continental
> > > Shelf, states along the East Coast have been denied what could become an
> > > important source of revenue, tens of thousands of high-paying jobs, and
> > > most of all a new source of American energy.
>
> > > There are an estimated $28 billion worth of oil and natural gas off South
> > > Carolina and almost $64 billion off Virginia.
>
> > > Oil and gas resources worth hundreds of billions are likely available off
> > > the Atlantic, Pacific, and Gulf coasts of the United States.
>
> > > Even these estimates might be lower than the true American energy
> > > potential. Predictions for the East Coast, for instance, are based on
> > > decades-old seismic research done with obsolete technology. Such outdated
> > > assessments have often dramatically underestimated the potential of
> > > American energy.
>
> > > The estimate of the Bakken formation in North Dakota has jumped 25-fold,
> > > 2,500 percent, since 1995 due to new technology.
>
> > > The amount of natural gas in shale has increased our estimated supply of
> > > natural gas by more than 15-fold, 1,500 percent, in the last decade.
>
> > > The administration's regulatory barriers to American energy
> > development—and
> > > for that matter, its indecision on the Keystone XL pipeline—are
> > needlessly
> > > crippling our economy, thwarting thousands of good jobs, and keeping our
> > > energy supply vulnerable to Iranian aggression.
>
> > > Undoubtedly, the United States should do anything required to keep the
> > > Strait of Hormuz open. But when President Obama is faced with the
> > prospect
> > > of using military action to preserve oil routes a few miles from Iran's
> > > shore at the same time as he denies so much energy potential here at
> > home,
> > > his priorities are profoundly wrong.
>
> > > Your Friend,
> > > [image: q]
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Re: We Need An American Energy Plan --' Strait' Away

Good Afternoon from Tampa PlainOl!
 
To the point,  you apparently read Gingrich's energy thesis, (for lack of a better term)  and is there anything in there that you disagree with? 

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:10 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
Our energy supply should not be hostage to the whims of a dangerous
and erratic regime when we have enormous untapped resources right here
in the United States.
---
yet neocon warmongers will use it as an excuse to blast Iran

when President Obama is faced with the prospect
of using military action to preserve oil routes a few miles from
Iran's
shore at the same time as he denies so much energy potential here at
home,
his priorities are profoundly wrong.
----
O is a  socialist asshole that must be removed from our government
asap by any means necessary ... even if it means replacing him with
zionist warmongers who will keep the US in non-stop war with the
muzzies for oil and israel

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>    We Need An American Energy Plan -- 'Strait' Away
> *by Newt Gingrich*
>
> Dear Keith,
>
> One-fifth of the world's oil trade passes through a six-mile wide sea
> traffic lane in the Strait of Hormuz, bounded on one side by the Islamic
> Republic of Iran and on the other by the Arabian Peninsula.
>
> An average of 14 oil tankers travel through the strait each day on their
> way to deliver fuel to Europe, Asia, and the United States.
>
> Cutting off this supply line would propel soaring energy prices and cripple
> economies around the world. That is exactly why Iran's regime has
> threatened to close the Strait in retaliation if the United States or
> Europe takes serious steps to punish its pursuit of a nuclear weapon.
>
> It's not exactly an idle threat.
>
> With such a narrow chokepoint, the U.S. military has acknowledged Iran
> could likely close the Strait for a period using mines and conventional
> naval forces or even with more crude tactics like sinking barges in the
> shipping lanes. Iran recently spent 10 days conducting naval exercises in
> the area to prove it could close the Strait, and earlier this month armed
> Iranian speedboats harassed two U.S. Navy vessels in separate incidents.
>
> Even if Iran is unlikely to prevail in a naval conflict with the United
> States, the regime is so unpredictable that such a conflict could be
> dangerous and disruptive.
>
> With Europe confronting recession and the United States coping with slow
> growth and high unemployment, the spike in gas prices that would result
> could not come at worse time.
>
> The Iranian regime wants to force America and Europe to choose between
> higher energy prices  and deterring its nuclear development.
>
> Either outcome—an Iranian nuclear weapon or economic disaster from an oil
> shock—should be unacceptable to Americans.  After all of Iran's threats
> surrounding the Strait of Hormuz, how big a warning do we need to have an
> American energy policy that makes us independent from such conflicts?
>
> Our energy supply should not be hostage to the whims of a dangerous and
> erratic regime when we have enormous untapped resources right here in the
> United States.
>
> A real American energy policy would employ offshore oil and natural gas
> development, domestic oil shale, wind, biofuels, clean coal and nuclear
> energy to eliminate our dependence on oil from an unstable and unfriendly
> region of the world.
>
> America should never be faced with a choice either to appease regimes like
> Iran's or to hinder our economy.
>     [image: r]
> <http://content.eaglepub.com/?daPgpu5pkGg5JOvvgqgkVHX2suWqASgRd&http:/...>
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>
> The obstacles to an American energy policy are political, bureaucratic, and
> ideological.
>
> For instance, we have an estimated three times more oil than Saudi Arabia
> locked up in oil shale in western states, much of which is banned from
> development.  That's just the beginning. Oil and natural gas worth hundreds
> of billions of dollars is sitting just off our coasts in land the American
> people own but which the Obama administration refuses to allow to be
> developed.
>
> Since the President reneged in 2010 on a promise to allow oil and natural
> gas exploration on the federal lands of the Atlantic Outer Continental
> Shelf, states along the East Coast have been denied what could become an
> important source of revenue, tens of thousands of high-paying jobs, and
> most of all a new source of American energy.
>
> There are an estimated $28 billion worth of oil and natural gas off South
> Carolina and almost $64 billion off Virginia.
>
> Oil and gas resources worth hundreds of billions are likely available off
> the Atlantic, Pacific, and Gulf coasts of the United States.
>
> Even these estimates might be lower than the true American energy
> potential. Predictions for the East Coast, for instance, are based on
> decades-old seismic research done with obsolete technology. Such outdated
> assessments have often dramatically underestimated the potential of
> American energy.
>
> The estimate of the Bakken formation in North Dakota has jumped 25-fold,
> 2,500 percent, since 1995 due to new technology.
>
> The amount of natural gas in shale has increased our estimated supply of
> natural gas by more than 15-fold, 1,500 percent, in the last decade.
>
> The administration's regulatory barriers to American energy development—and
> for that matter, its indecision on the Keystone XL pipeline—are needlessly
> crippling our economy, thwarting thousands of good jobs, and keeping our
> energy supply vulnerable to Iranian aggression.
>
> Undoubtedly, the United States should do anything required to keep the
> Strait of Hormuz open. But when President Obama is faced with the prospect
> of using military action to preserve oil routes a few miles from Iran's
> shore at the same time as he denies so much energy potential here at home,
> his priorities are profoundly wrong.
>
> Your Friend,
> [image: q]
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