Sunday, June 26, 2011

Re: What Neocons Don't Understand About War

Pretty funny stuff when Obama just added 2 to the list.

On Jun 25, 12:03 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> What Neocons Don't Understand About WarBy Conor Friedersdorf
> Jun 24 2011Politics shapes strategy in conflicts of choice -- which is another reason to avoid themInNational Review,The Weekly Standard, and theWashington Post, leading War on Terror hawks are expressing outrage at the timeline President Obama set for troop reductions in Afghanistan. Their complaint: politics is driving American policy. "So why September 2012?" Bill Kristol writes. "Because, one has to conclude, Election Day is November 6, 2012. The deadline will allow candidate Obama to say that he has completely withdrawn the surge forces, and that we're on our way out of Afghanistan and coming home. The timetable President Obama has set isn't based on military considerations, diplomatic strategies, or financial calculations."
> Perhaps it's time to let these guys in on a secret: elected officials are constantly playing politics. Even on matters of national security. As they wage foreign wars, they concern themselves with the mood of the American people, support for hostilities in Congress, and how troop levels might affect their prospects for being re-elected. Almost inevitably, the strategy and tactics they employ depend at least partly on all those factors, and other political considerations besides.
> Most adults know this.
> For that reason, it's wise to refrain from waging wars of choice, a label that arguably didn't apply to Afghanistan circa 2001, but certainly started applying at some point over the last decade. When our safety isn't imminently threatened, it is tempting to avoid the slaughter of our sons and daughters, especially if it saves billions of dollars. It's tempting even when it isn't militarily optimal.
> Guys like Kristol constantly urge us to undertake ever more wars of choice anyway. It's as if they're blind to the fact that the American people tire of adventures abroad on a timetable that doesn't correspond to however many decades are required to prevail in them (if in fact winning is even possible). A prudent decision-maker, weighing whether to launch or extend a foreign war, would presume the eventual war weariness of the populace, and the political nature of presidents.
> Kristol and those who trust his foreign policy judgment aren't prudent decision-makers. In their telling, the US would've prevailed if only we stuck it out longer in Vietnam. Islamist extremists wouldn't have been emboldened if only we'd stuck it out in Beirut. Iraq would've gone better if only we'd invested in a bigger military during the 1990s and sent more troops in earlier. We'd win all our wars of choice if only Americans would give neo-cons a blank check, unlimited troops, and no deadline! That the conditions they deem necessary for victory are fantastical doesn't bother them.
> It doesn't help that their desire to wage new wars causes them to mislead the American people about how long victory might take. Here's Bill Kristol on October 1, 2001: "Saddam Hussein, because of his strategic position in the Persian Gulf and the Middle East, surely represents a more potent challenge to the United States and its interests and principles than the weak, isolated, and we trust, soon-to-be crushed Taliban. And unlike the Taliban, Saddam Hussein may soon have at his disposal not only terrorist networks, but biological, chemical, and even nuclear weapons."
> Here he is on November 26, 2001: "WITH THE TALIBAN DISLODGED and Osama bin Laden increasingly shorn of allies, the endgame seems to be in sight in Afghanistan." It's no wonder the American people are war weary and uninclined to trust the assurances of hawks that we just need to stay a little bit longer - but without any timetable for withdrawal - to assure American victory. They've been telling us for a decade that victory is just over the next hill. Why trust them now?http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/06/what-neocons-dont-know-about-war/240956/

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**JP** [Islamic Circle] Parda in Islam

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**JP** Fw: PPPP TRAPPED NAWAZ SHAREEF AND MQM TRAPPED REHMAN MALIK????



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From: Journalist Hasnain <journalist.hasnain@yahoo.com>
Subject: PPPP TRAPPED NAWAZ SHAREEF AND MQM TRAPPED REHMAN MALIK????
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Date: Sunday, 26 June, 2011, 10:20 AM

PPPP TRAPPED NAWAZ SHAREEF . NAWAZ SHAREEF SUPPORTED PPPP BY FRIENDLY OPPOSITION,WHILE REHMAN MALIK TRAPPED MQM,AND MQM SUPPORTED PPPP IN SINDH ASSEMBLY AND NATIONAL ASSEMBLY.
CRISES WATER  SUGAR CNG  PETROLE WHEAT  AND INCREASING PRICES ARE NOT SOLVED. WHILE MORE THAN 180 MILLIONS PEOPLES CRYING DEMANDNG TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS,PROMISED PRE-ELECTIONS. NON HAS SOLVE BY ANY ONE. PRESIDENT PM MPs MNs CMs ARE NEITHER SINCERE NOR FEELINGS.
CHIEF EXECUTIVE ANTI EVIL AND TERRORISM INTERNATIONAL MOVEMENT OVERSEAS. 

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**JP** Re: special Report From KhariAN

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RE: **JP** NGO looking for Interns and Volunteers

Dear Tariq

I have been running an Educational Academy named Ashfaq Memorial Academy since 1995 in Mochi Gate Lahore.And I had never need any donations because I was doing job also and from that I managed the expenses.But due to Downsizing of NIB Bank now I am not in a position to carry the Academy further.Now I need some financial help.
I have more than 50 students of inter and Bachelor level who are not paying any fee.But only few students are paying.
I need some financial help to save those student`s education.I need rental building to carry this institute.I will be grateful if you do some financial help/grant.
If you want to visit the academy you can visit during 4pm to 7pm.


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Ashfaq Memorial Academy
House # H/362 inside Mochi Gate Lahore.
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Subject: RE: **JP** NGO looking for Interns and Volunteers
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:06:40 +0000

Yes i want to be a volunteer for your NGO. how i get in your NGO?

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**JP** Signs of the coming of Dajjal.....

These are the major signs of the coming of Dajjal....already his two phases of oppression on earth seems to have been gone...now is the third stage before he actually exposes himself for his remaining 37 days on earth...(Allah knows better..). Is there any of the signs not fulfilled yet which may have been comforting you for not preparing and not understanding the games and deceptions and lies of today?

Hadith attributed to Muhammad give many signs of the appearance of the Dajjal, and exhorted his followers to recite the first and last ten verses of Sura Al-Kahf, as protection from the trials and mischief of the Dajjal.[citation needed]

The following signs are ascribed to Ali in the coming of Dajjal:[7]

  • People will stop offering the prayers
  • Dishonesty will be the way of life
  • Falsehood will become a virtue
  • People will mortgage their faith for worldly gains
  • Usury and bribery will become legitimate
  • Imbeciles would rule over the wise
  • Blood of innocents would be shed
  • Books about the quote "As a man thinketh"
  • Pride will be taken on acts of oppression
  • The rulers will be corrupt
  • The scholars will be hypocrites
  • Adultery will be rampant
  • The liars and treacherous will be respected
  • There will be acute famine at the time
  • There will be no shame amongst people
  • Children would challenge their mothers
  • Youngsters would perform marital relationship with their parents
  • Many people would worship Satan
  • There would be no respect for elder people

The Warmonger’s Fruit of the Spirit


The Warmonger's Fruit of the Spirit
by Laurence M. Vance

It seems sensible and logical that followers of someone called the Prince of Peace would not act like they are following Mars, the Roman god of war.

As I have maintained whenever I speak about Christianity and war, if there is any group of people that should be opposed to war, empire, militarism, the warfare state, an imperial presidency, blind nationalism, government war propaganda, and an aggressive foreign policy it is Christians, and especially conservative, evangelical, and fundamentalist Christians who claim to strictly follow the dictates of Scripture and worship the Prince of Peace.

I have also maintained throughout these wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that, even though it is Christianity above all religions that should be opposed to the evils of war and militarism, in the Church will be found some of the greatest supporters of the military and the current wars.

The " criminality of war," as Howard Malcom, president of Georgetown College, wrote in 1845, is not "that tyrants should lead men into wars of pride and conquest," but that "the people, in governments comparatively free, should so readily lend themselves to a business in which they bear all the sufferings, can gain nothing, and may lose all." That people would act this way, Malcom says, is an "astonishment indeed." "But," he continues, "the chief wonder is that Christians, followers of the Prince of Peace, should have concurred in this mad idolatry of strife, and thus been inconsistent not only with themselves, but with the very genius of their system."

I have heard and read many Christians criticize Obama – and rightly so – for his horrendous policies, but I have heard and read little or nothing from Christians of how Obama has continued the war in Iraq, escalated the war in Afghanistan, and expanded the bogus war on terror to other countries.

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The above sign from a church in Maryland can unfortunately be seen almost anywhere in the United States. Although some Christians have begun to criticize Obama and the Democrats for the things that only a short time ago they were silent about when perpetrated by Bush and the Republicans, support for the military among Christians – no matter where it goes, why it goes, what it does, how much it costs, how long it stays, and how many foreigners it kills – is so entrenched, so sacrosanct, that I am at the same time bewildered and embarrassed, angered and ashamed.

The result of this mindset is a perversion of the very Scriptures that Christians claim to believe and follow. So, just as Christian warmongers would, if they were honest, recite The Warmonger's Psalm (Psalm 23), assent to The Warmonger's Beatitudes (Matthew 5:3-12), and pray The President's Prayer (Matthew 6:9-13), so they would acknowledge that they manifest The Warmonger's Fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23).

In contrast to the works of the flesh (adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, and revellings), the Apostle Paul in the Book of Galatians mentions the fruit of the Spirit: love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance.

But in place of these virtues, warmongers have substituted pride, indifference, vengeance, ignorance, malice, arrogance, lust, foolishness, and blasphemy.

Christian warmongers have pride in the U.S. military – the greatest cause of terrorism and instability in the world. They are indifferent to the tremendous suffering of foreigners who get in the way of the U.S. military. They want vengeance for 9/11 now matter how many innocent Muslims have to die. They have a tremendous and willful ignorance of the true nature of U.S. foreign policy. They have malice toward foreigners who never harmed Americans until the U.S. military starting bombing them. They have an arrogant "USA, USA" patriotism that supports an interventionist and militaristic foreign policy. They lust for the blood of foreigners by supporting bombing, drone attacks, torture, and indiscriminate killing. They make foolish statements like the military is defending our freedoms by fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. They blaspheme God by asking him to bless and protect U.S. soldiers.

I realize that I am making some serious accusations, but the truth is simply that most Christian warmongers don't care whether there are Predator drone attacks against Afghan and Pakistani peasants as long as a Republican-controlled government gets to conduct the attacks.

http://lewrockwell.com/vance/vance248.html