Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Re: Muslims tortured, killed, dragged U.S. ambassador’s body through streets

Amazing......Amazing, the reaction that our government has so far displayed. 
 


 
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:


Dr. Eowyn posted: "WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES! U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Steven's body being dragged through the streets of Benghazi by raging Muslims Jim Holt writes for Gateway Pundit, Sept. 12, 2012, that last night, radical Islamists attacked the US Cons"
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Muslims tortured, killed, dragged U.S. ambassador's body through streets

by Dr. Eowyn

WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES!

U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Steven's body being dragged through the streets of Benghazi by raging Muslims

Jim Holt writes for Gateway Pundit, Sept. 12, 2012, that last night, radical Islamists attacked the US Consulate in Benghazi with rocket propelled grenades and machine gun fire. They killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens, then dragged his body through the streets.


Al- Ahram

The U.S. Consulate in Benghasi was destroyed.

A man walks inside the U.S. consulate, which was attacked and set on fire by gunmen yesterday, in Benghazi September 12, 2012. Christopher Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, and three embassy staff were killed as they rushed away from the consulate building, stormed by al Qaeda-linked gunmen blaming America for a film that they said insulted the Prophet Mohammad. Stevens was trying to leave the consulate building for a safer location as part of an evacuation when gunmen launched an intense attack, apparently forcing security personnel to withdraw. (REUTERS/Esam Al-Fetori)

The same consulate was bombed this June, but the Obama Administration did nothing.

CBS News reports that Wanis al-Sharef, a Libyan Interior Ministry official in Benghazi, said Ambassador Stevens, 52, and other officials were moved to a second building - deemed safer - after the initial wave of protests at the Benghazi consulate compound. But members of the Libyan security team guarding the U.S. consulate "seem to have indicated to the protesters the building to which the American officials had been relocated." The mob then attacked that second building, and killed Stevens and three other Americans.

Al-Sharef said two U.S. Marines sent to Benghazi when the clash erupted were shot and killed by the well-armed protesters. It was not immediately clear whether the Marines were part of Stevens' security detail. The American whose death was confirmed on Tuesday also died of a gunshot wound. He was identified by the State Department on Wednesday as Foreign Service Information Management Officer Sean Smith.

Front Page Magazine reports Ambassador Stevens was tortured: "The latest reports say that he did not die of gunshot wounds, but of suffocation, that would mean that he was likely manually killed."

~Eowyn

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Re: Muhammad: The movie trailer Muslims are killing over (video)

Thanks for sharing this Travis.......I am watching the coverage on my Sling Box (which is American)  but also on the EuroNews, French, German and Russian news stations.   Amazing how the coverage is different......

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:
Anything that shows and tells the truth about muzzies and theie Cult of Hate and Death should be shown worldwide on primetime tv.

creeping posted: "It's 9/11 and Muslims are killing in the name of Allah once again. According to the NY Times, this is the latest excuse for Muslims to riot, loot and kill. http://youtu.be/qmodVun16Q4 The video has been on Youtube since July and the Arabic version"
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It's 9/11 and Muslims are killing in the name of Allah once again. According to the NY Times, this is the latest excuse for Muslims to riot, loot and kill. http://youtu.be/qmodVun16Q4 The video has been on Youtube since July and the Arabic version has been up for a week (will Youtube submit to sharia?). As [...]

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Re: New Memo Confirms That The Romney Camp Is Starting To Freak Out About Polls

Hey Michael!
 
Okay,.......I get it.......
 
I am still of the belief that Romney will in fact repeal ObamaCare in it's entirety, but I get your point, at least with the recent statements.
 
Like Romney, and I think most Americans,  I do see some serious flaws in our health care system.   Besides the fact that most middle class Americans cannot afford "health care"; (only the poor, and the rich seem to be doing pretty damn good under the current system);  we, as a Nation cannot continue to support the current Medicare system......Much less a socialized medicine!   Not unless we adopt a socialistic system like what is currently in place in Western Europe,  with mixed results I might add......
 
We are Cowboys!  We are not socialists!   <Grin>!
 


 
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:40 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:

ROTFLMAO!
"Mend it not end it" is in keeping with his claims on Meet the Depressed which he LATER back pedaled. Even his campaign site tells us he is going to REPLACE Obamacare with all sorts of NEW 'planning'.
My guess is that he had a bout of clarity on MTP which he had to then 'recant' for his talking points aimed at those like you.

I hope he wins ... and proves me wrong. Don't be angry that I am not holding my breath on either count.

Regard$,
--MJ

So the GOP, running mostly the last few years on abolishing Obamacare, will nominate the candidate who pioneered Obamacare? -- Judge Andrew Napolitano




At 04:33 PM 9/11/2012, you wrote:
Again,  go back and read Governor Romney's quote from yesterday,  and each and every day from the campaign Michael!   A far cry from how you initially framed it:  "Mend it, not end it".......Therein lies the fallacy......
 


 
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:13 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:

Yeah ... sure ... semantics ... intentions.
<shakes head>

Regard$,
--MJ

"Now that Romney is the official nominee, I would like to give my official prediction about the election.
"Prediction 1: If Romney wins, in four years we will have a higher national debt, and still have a drug war, a police state, troops in 150 countries, and a national security/warfare state. Prediction 2: If Obama wins, in four years we will have a higher national debt, and still have a drug war, a police state, troops in 150 countries, and a national security/warfare state." -- Laurence Vance



At 04:10 PM 9/11/2012, you wrote:
I guess we are dealing with semantics here.....I don't think that there is any question that when Governor Romney is elected, his intent is to repeal ObamaCare. 

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:55 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:
September 9: Mitt Romney, Ann Romney, Julian Castro, Peggy Noonan, E.J. Dionne, Bill Bennett, Chuck Todd
<snip>
MR. ROMNEY:  Well, of course not.  I say we're going to replace Obamacare.  And I'm replacing it with my own plan.  And, you know, even in Massachusetts where I was governor, our plan there deals with pre-existing conditions and with young people.  Everybody…
<snip>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48959273/ns/meet_the_press-transcripts/t/september-mitt-romney-ann-romney-julian-castro-peggy-noonan-ej-dionne-bill-bennett-chuck-todd/#.UE-MQdZlRCJ



At 03:04 PM 9/11/2012, you wrote:
Please provide that quote Michael. Specifically where Governor Romney stated, "I say we're going to replace Obamacare. And I'm replacing it with my own plan."
 
 I provided you earlier with the quote where yesterday,  (09.10.2012) Governor Romney specifically and undeniably stated that his intent was to REPEAL  ObamaCare!  This was after the purported contoversy where he stated that he supports certain aspects of the provisions contained within the current  PPACA.   As Governor Romney has stated emphatically for over a year, his intent is to repeal this Act.  
 
Fallacy? 
 

 
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:27 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:
There you go again with your fallacy spews ... much simpler I guess than actually addressing the words, concepts and ideas presented.
Romney stated: "I say we're going to replace Obamacare. And I'm replacing it with my own plan."
REPLACE does not a REPEAL make. REPLACE does not move the 'football' in the right direction. REPLACE maintains the status quo.
When PPACA was signed into law ... the Republican battle cry was "REPEAL!" Romney -- before even ascending to office -- has ALREADY watered that effort down.
It is YOU that is attempting to twist them into something else.
Those of us who pay attention and are not enamored with the endless RHETORIC spewed by Republicans understand that a Romney Administration will NOT repeal Obamacare.
You simply WANT -- desperately -- to believe that Romney is somehow different.
Regard$,
--MJ
"The real division is not between conservatives and revolutionaries but between authoritarians and libertarians" -- George Orwell, author of "1984" and "Animal Farm."



At 02:16 PM 9/11/2012, you wrote:
Sheldon Richmon.......Another far left American hating Moonbat who cloaks himself as a "Libertarian",  A Bill Mahr wannabe.  
 
Earlier, I sent you a quote regarding Romney's statement after his comments on Meet the Press.   I agree with Romney on our health care system.  It's fucked up.  Governor Romney has been quite vocal on his opposition to ObamaCare before, and after his comments on Meet the Press however, and only far left extremists who are in support of the current socialist Administration can take his comments and twist them as somehow backpedaling on his very vocal insistance to repeal ObamaCare.   You seem to take great delight in broadcasting these far left extremists' hatred for the Republican candidate,  which is duly noted.
 
 
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:13 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:
Romney says he won't repeal all of Obamacare
Romney says despite pledge to repeal Obamacare, he'd keep some parts of it if he's elected
Associated Press   Associated Press – Sun, Sep 9, 2012 9:04 AM EDT
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Mitt Romney says his pledge to repeal President Barack Obama's health law doesn't mean that young adults and those with medical conditions would no longer be guaranteed health care.
The Republican presidential nominee says he'll replace the law with his own plan. He tells NBC's "Meet the Press" that the plan he worked to pass while governor of Massachusetts deals with medical conditions and with young people.
Romney says he doesn't plan to repeal of all of Obama's signature health care plan. He says there are a number of initiatives he likes in the Affordable Care Act that he would keep in place if elected president.
Obama has been campaigning on the benefits in his plan for the uninsured, women and young adults.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/romney-says-wont-repeal-obamacare-130418140.html
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Obama To Israel: DROP DEAD!








Obama To Israel: DROP DEAD!

Sep 11, 2012 10:57 pm | Jeff Dunetz


Much of the big news on the anniversary of 9-11 came from the Middle East. There was the attack on the US Embassies in Egypt and Libya and the reports of Obama's refusal to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu when he comes to the United States at the end of September.

An Israeli official earlier told Reuters on condition of anonymity that Netanyahu's aides had asked for a meeting and "the White House has got back to us and said it appears a meeting is not possible. It said that the president's schedule will not permit that

When the story first broke White House spokesman Tommy Vietor confirmed to Fox News that Obama is not expected to meet with Netanyahu, though insisted it was just a scheduling problem (there is that Letterman appearance while he is in NY--he needs to write some jokes). The spokesman said Obama will be at the United Nations on Sept. 24 and leave the following day, while Netanyahu won't be in the city until later in the week. But later in the day the White House, scrambling to preempt any political fallout rejected the notion that Netanyahu asked for the meeting.

But late Tuesday, the White House released a statement denying that any formal offer was made for a meeting in the capital -- without saying whether an offer was made for a meeting elsewhere, like New York. "Contrary to reports in the press, there was never a request for Prime Minister Netanyahu to meet with President Obama in Washington, nor was a request for a meeting ever denied," the statement said.

Anyone who was surprised by news that Obama doesn't want to sit down with Bibi has not been paying attention to the news over the past three weeks.

While the President and his campaign spokespeople have been claiming there is no "sunlight" between the United States and Israel on Iran it is clear that a deep chasm has opened up between the two countries.  Or to put it another way the Obama Administration has decided to abandon Israel, preferring that the only democracy in the Middle East face Iran's nuclear weapons alone. At the  same time the Obama administration has Iran know that Israel is on her own, a show of weakness from America which will make an Israeli attack more likely. 

The end of August saw a flurry of activity starting with A UN report revealing that Iran doubled the number of uranium enrichment machines it has in an underground bunker, showing that Tehran continued to defy Western pressure to stop its atomic work.

That same week the Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey  told a crowd in London 

he does not want to be "complicit" if Israel chose to strike Iran's nuclear program, positing that a premature attack would dissolve the international pressure on the Islamic Republic, The Guardian reported. Dempsey said an attack would "clearly delay but probably not destroy Iran's nuclear program," but added that the "international coalition" pressuring Iran "could be undone if it was attacked prematurely".

The State Department also got into the act of pulling the rug out from under Israel. One paper  reported the Obama administration was trying to make a deal with the Iranians "you don't attack us we wont help Israel attack you."

The United States has indirectly informed Iran, via two European nations, that it would not back an Israeli strike against the country's nuclear facilities, as long as Tehran refrains from attacking American interests in the Persian Gulf, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Monday.

According to the report, Washington used covert back-channels in Europe to clarify that the US does not intend to back Israel in a strike that may spark a regional conflict.

The Obama administration has said they oppose a unilateral Israeli strike because of their belief diplomacy and sanctions still need time to work; an Israeli attack could destabilize the entire Middle East, an Israeli attack would only delay Iranian nukes for a short time, yada, yada, yada.

Truth be told  Israel doesn't want to strike Iran either. The do want the Obama administration to keep its promise to prevent the Iranians from creating nuclear weapons, something the administration should desire also.  Iran may be pointing the first nuclear missile at Israel, but the second one will be aimed at the US or our citizens overses.

With the latest Iranian news, and the Obama administrations public signal of their intent to allow Israel twist in the wind,  Israel has lost confidence in Obama's seriousness and will do all that she can to protect her people.

In a radio interview, Congressman Mike Rogers reported about an early September meeting he held with Nentanyahu and American Ambassador Dan Sharpiro.  Netanyahu began a tirade against the US president, attacking him for not doing enough on Iran.

"Instead of pressuring Iran in an effective way, Obama and his people are pressuring us not to attack the nuclear facilities," Netanyahu was quoted as saying.

Rogers described the meeting as

"Very tense. Some very sharp... exchanges and it was very, very clear the Israelis had lost their patience with the (Obama) Administration. There was no doubt. You could not walk out of that meeting and think that they had not lost their patience with this Administration. We've had sharp exchanges with other heads of state and in intelligence services and other things, but nothing at that level that I've seen in all my time where people were clearly that agitated, clearly that worked up about a particular issue where there was a very sharp exchange....Certainly when you walk out of that meeting you get the feeling that they [Israel] are finally at wits' end, and that's what concerned me about the meeting,"

What Israel is looking for from the United States is a line in the sand.  Despite sanctions, Iran is moving quickly to the point  they will be able to create nuclear weapons.  The verbal threats are still coming from Iran and her allies toward Israel. Israel is not looking for the US to attack Iran, but only to tell Iran when enough is enough. 

Continuing the administration's weak stance, this week, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Bloomberg Radio that "we're not setting deadlines" for Iran to halt its program.

Netanyahu responded to Clinton's words during a news conferenceon 9/11.

"The sanctions have hurt the Iranian economy, but they haven't stopped the Iranian nuclear program. That's a fact," Netanyahu said. "And the fact is that every day that passes, Iran gets closer and closer to nuclear bombs," Netanyahu added. "The world tells Israel: 'Wait. There's still time.' And I say: 'Wait for what? Wait until when?' Those in the international community who refuse to put red lines before Iran don't have a moral right to place a red light before Israel."

Today on the 11th anniversary of 9/11 our embassies in Egypt and Libya were attacked.  An American at the Libyan embassy was shot and killed, the  attacks were supposedly in response to  an anti-Islam video created by a Coptic Christian in America.  The Obama Administration's first response the attacks was not one of condemnation, but by making excuses forthose who waged the attacks.

The US embassy in Cairo issued a statement condemning "the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims, as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions."

That response is not lost on Israel or Iran, the United States did not support its own embassies when attacked, why should Israel trust,  or Iran fear an Obama Administration.

The public rebukes of Israel made by the Obama Administration over the past two weeks are a message to Iran.  With his weakness and indecision, the  President who claims to have Israel's back has given Iran a de-facto green light to move ahead with its nuclear plans. In the end if Israel ends up striking Iran, it is Barack Obama's weakness that pushed the Jewish State to protect herself.

Barack Obama may have told told Israel to Drop Dead, but Israel will not comply.

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Muslims tortured, killed, dragged U.S. ambassador’s body through streets



Dr. Eowyn posted: "WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES! U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Steven's body being dragged through the streets of Benghazi by raging Muslims Jim Holt writes for Gateway Pundit, Sept. 12, 2012, that last night, radical Islamists attacked the US Cons"
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Muslims tortured, killed, dragged U.S. ambassador's body through streets

by Dr. Eowyn

WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES!

U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Steven's body being dragged through the streets of Benghazi by raging Muslims

Jim Holt writes for Gateway Pundit, Sept. 12, 2012, that last night, radical Islamists attacked the US Consulate in Benghazi with rocket propelled grenades and machine gun fire. They killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens, then dragged his body through the streets.


Al- Ahram

The U.S. Consulate in Benghasi was destroyed.

A man walks inside the U.S. consulate, which was attacked and set on fire by gunmen yesterday, in Benghazi September 12, 2012. Christopher Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, and three embassy staff were killed as they rushed away from the consulate building, stormed by al Qaeda-linked gunmen blaming America for a film that they said insulted the Prophet Mohammad. Stevens was trying to leave the consulate building for a safer location as part of an evacuation when gunmen launched an intense attack, apparently forcing security personnel to withdraw. (REUTERS/Esam Al-Fetori)

The same consulate was bombed this June, but the Obama Administration did nothing.

CBS News reports that Wanis al-Sharef, a Libyan Interior Ministry official in Benghazi, said Ambassador Stevens, 52, and other officials were moved to a second building - deemed safer - after the initial wave of protests at the Benghazi consulate compound. But members of the Libyan security team guarding the U.S. consulate "seem to have indicated to the protesters the building to which the American officials had been relocated." The mob then attacked that second building, and killed Stevens and three other Americans.

Al-Sharef said two U.S. Marines sent to Benghazi when the clash erupted were shot and killed by the well-armed protesters. It was not immediately clear whether the Marines were part of Stevens' security detail. The American whose death was confirmed on Tuesday also died of a gunshot wound. He was identified by the State Department on Wednesday as Foreign Service Information Management Officer Sean Smith.

Front Page Magazine reports Ambassador Stevens was tortured: "The latest reports say that he did not die of gunshot wounds, but of suffocation, that would mean that he was likely manually killed."

~Eowyn

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Support Your Local Standing Army?


Support Your Local Standing Army?
by Laurence M. Vance

Why is it that libertarians -- who don't revere the Constitution -- have no trouble understanding the Constitution but conservatives -- who do revere the Constitution -- have so much trouble?

In a letter to the editor of The New American published in its August 20, 2012 issue, someone who believes "in the constitutional right of citizens to keep and bear arms for self-defense -- the protection of life and property" and in "the right of a person to hunt and harvest a natural resource for food" is nevertheless troubled about Americans having guns for other purposes.

In a letter sent via e-mail, Richard Moore writes about military-type guns being the problem. I reproduce his letter here with my observations because his ideas are typical of many conservatives who have accepted the legitimacy of federal gun laws.

During the time of the creating of the Constitution, all people, civilians, military, and standing armies, had equal access to small arms, single-shot flintlock firearms, and edged weapons. A person with training and practice could load and accurately fire three rounds in one minute with a flintlock firearm, not hundreds of rounds in minutes.
I believe in the constitutional right of citizens to keep and bear arms for self-defense – the protection of life and property. I believe in the right of a person to hunt and harvest a natural resource for food. This is also a humane method used to control wildlife populations.
High-power, high-capacity, high-tech weapons are for military use and intended for sales to nations with standing armies, not civilians interested in defense of life and property, or hunting. A civilian model of a weapon designed for military use is still a weapon designed for military use.
Not allowing people access to weapons capable of mass destruction does not impede the right to self-defense of life and property or the right to hunt. Prohibiting access to such weapons protects life and property. Ask the dead and wounded at the movie theater in Colorado if they agree.
Yes, it is true that guns do not kill people. People kill people. It is also impossible to predict and eliminate such incidents, such as the one in Colorado. However, imagine the outcome if the shooter did not have high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons.

I have omitted the writer's last paragraph because it is not related to gun control.

Some observations.

1. What Moore writes could just as easily been written by James Brady, Senator Chuck Schumer, or President Obama.

2. If during the time of the Constitution everyone had access to the same weapons then what is the problem with everyone having access to the same weapons now?

3. If high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons are outlawed, then only outlaws will have high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons.

4. Was the alleged shooter at the Colorado movie theater concerned about violating federal gun laws?

5. Couldn't the alleged shooter's Glock .40-caliber handgun alone be capable of mass destruction? Does Moore think it should be banned as well? Why not?

6. If not allowing people access to weapons capable of mass destruction does not impede property rights, then nothing the federal government does impedes property rights.

7. Guns don't kill people; people kill people -- just as Moore says.

8. Imagine the outcome if the victims in the theater had high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons.

9. The right of self-defense includes the right to defend oneself against the greatest aggressor of life, liberty, and property in the history of the world: governments. If only governments have access to high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons, then all the talk about self-defense is meaningless.

10. If the government is going to ban high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons, then it ought to ban them from military use and from sales to nations with standing armies. Civilians wrongly kill far fewer people than government soldiers.

11. The Second Amendment confers no positive right. It is an additional limitation on federal power to infringe upon gun rights besides the fact that no authority is granted to the federal government by the Constitution to infringe upon them in the first place. Even if the Second Amendment only applied to non-military weapons, even if it only applied to state militias, and even if it didn't exist, Americans would still have the natural right to keep and bear arms of any size, accuracy, or magnitude.

Under the Constitution, the federal government has no authority whatsoever to ban high-power weapons, high-capacity weapons, high-tech weapons, machine guns, automatic weapons, armor-piercing bullets, "cop-killer" bullets, sawed-off shotguns, assault rifles, gun sales to felons, bazookas, armored personnel carriers, grenades, IEDs, bombs, or tanks. This is because under the Constitution, the federal government has no authority whatsoever to ban marijuana, cocaine, heroin, crack cocaine, ecstasy, meth, hazardous waste, poisons, pesticides, toxic waste, bath salts, incandescent light bulbs, pornography, absinthe, products containing dog or cat fur, drug paraphernalia, or any other substance.

Permitting or prohibiting these substances is a matter for each individual state to decide. This doesn't mean that the states should ban any or all of these substances. It just means that it is for the states to decide. This is federalism in action.

Why is it that libertarians are the ones who actually believe that the relation of the federal and state governments under the Constitution should be as James Madison wrote in Federalist No. 45:

The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.

No, military-type guns aren't the problem. Human nature is the problem. Gun laws are the problem. Government is the problem. Guns themselves are never the problem.

N.B.: This was a letter to the editor of The New American, not an editorial by The New American.

http://lewrockwell.com/vance/vance302.html

Fwd: [LPNOVA] Upcoming Libertarian Party Events



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From: Laura
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Subject: [LPNOVA] Upcoming Libertarian Party Events
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Good evening Libertarians!

The busy season continues, and I wanted to give you guys a heads up on what's coming up in the next week:

Alexandria City Council Candidate Forum
Wednesday, September 12 6:45pm-9pm
Come out and Support Alexandria City Council candidate Robert Kraus! Robert needs you to be his cheering squad during this forum. We'll hold up signs and help promote Robert's candidacy. Also, a reporter from the Financial Times might be in attendance, doing a story on Governor Johnson's impact in Virginia. Please come show your support!!

Gary Johnson on STOSSEL
Governor Johnson will be on John Stossel's show on Fox Business News on Thursday, September 13 at 9pm.

Festive Fundraiser WITH Judge Jim Gray
Monday, September 17 8pm-10pm

Vice Presidential candidate Judge Jim Gray will be in town! Come meet Judge Gray, on Monday night, September 17th, at a festive meet-and-greet at my home in Falls Church, VA. Judge Gray will give brief remarks about Governor Gary Johnson's presidential campaign and then answer your questions. There will be plenty of Cajun food, libations, and friends of freedom with whom to visit. RSVP HERE: https://www.facebook.com/events/405176992878583/, and please bring a friend!

Thanks!  

In Liberty,
Laura Delhomme





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Re: Patriot Day

And Maine, which used to be part of Massachusetts

On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:31:20 PM UTC-4, plainolamerican wrote:
Initially, the day was called the Prayer and Remembrance for the
Victims of the Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001. When the new
name was proposed, it received opposition from Massachusetts, which
already had a Patriots' Day.

On Sep 11, 11:56 am, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Point, if any?
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> On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 11:50:27 AM UTC-4, MJ wrote:
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> >  *"Eleven years later, the combination of national self-pity, vaunting
> > jingoism, and resolute blindness remains unbecoming." -- Sheldon Richman,
> > 11 September 2012
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> > **Patriot Day
> > *Posted by Laurence Vance <javascript:> on September 11, 2012 08:46 AM
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> > I just realized that today is Patriot Day<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Day>,
> > not to be confused with Patriot's Day<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriots%27_Day>.
> > Not a federal holiday yet, but just wait a few years. Not sure why 9/11 is
> > called Patriot Day. Perhaps Payback Day or Blowback Day or Federal Failure
> > Day or Government Incompetence Day would be a better name for it. But of
> > course, I'm not sure what the evil Patriot Act has to do with patriotism
> > either.

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Obama Admits Birthplace




 

WHAT  ???? Please read script under the video, too.
 
Scroll all the way down and watch the video, It is Obama after he became a Senator. How come it never came out before now?
Obama admits not being born in Hawaii...
Can one doubt his own admission? Where is Sixty Minutes?
Obama is actually on this video admitting he was not born in Hawaii but was born in Kenya and is not even a citizen.
  Obviously he made these statements because he did not know at that time that a president must be a "natural born" citizen.. OOOPS!
Circulate this before they yank it from the internet.
Will some one tell me why this guy is not being impeached??
If you just watch the first 30 seconds your mouth will drop open.
Obama admits he is not a citizen
Hmmm.... Maybe the "birthers" are on to something....
THE AMAZING PART OF THIS TRAVESTY IS AMERICANS CONTINUE ALLOWING THEMSELVES TO BE RULED BY AN ILLEGAL ALIEN.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded


His first speech is apparently just after his election to the US Senate.

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Romney’s embrace of Obamacare lite is nothing new



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Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:53 AM
Subject: Romney's embrace of Obamacare lite is nothing new
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Romney's embrace of Obamacare lite is nothing new
09/11/2012
By W. James Antle III

When a campaign spokeswoman for Mitt Romney appeared to say something nice about his Massachusetts health care plan, the solution proposed by many conservatives was simple: Fire her!

But what happens when the candidate himself keeps saying nice things about the Massachusetts health care law? Can we fire the candidate?

"I say we're going to replace Obamacare," Romney said on NBC's "Meet the Press" last weekend. "And I'm replacing it with my own plan. And even in Massachusetts when I was governor, our plan there deals with pre-existing conditions and with young people."

This is part of a larger pattern. At the same time his spokeswoman was invoking Romneycare on national television, Romney was doing so more subtly in Des Moines.

After calling for the repeal of Obamacare, Romney said, "By the way, that doesn't mean that health care is perfect. We've got to do reforms in health care and I have some experience doing that, as you know."

Oh, we know!

Romney even praised the Massachusetts plan on Fox News.

"First of all, with regards to women's health care, look, I'm the guy that was about to get health care for all of the women ­ and men ­ in my state," he told Chris Wallace.

Challenged on this, Romney replied, "I am very proud of what we did, and the fact that we helped women and men and children in our state."

Romney's transition team would be led by Mike Leavitt, the former Utah governor and Bush HHS secretary, who has been lobbying governors to implement the Obamacare exchanges at the state level.

Noam Scheiber reported in the New Republic that Romney chief strategist Stuart Stevens landed the job in part because he didn't think the former Massachusetts governor should disavow his health care record.

If Mitt Romney seems like he would rather tinker with Obamacare than repeal it outright as he has repeatedly promised to do, that's because he still likes his Massachusetts health care law.

Romneycare shares many common features with Obamacare, albeit without raising the same constitutional questions. States have police powers, the federal government doesn't.

It would be nice to leave the past in the past, because Romney has generally put himself well to the right of President Obama on health care since he started running for the White House.

But little snippets like the "Meet the Press" interview keep reminding us that we have to think of what Romney might do in the future if he is elected.

As Reason's Peter Suderman puts it, "[H]e's trying to say a lot without saying much at all, except that he likes things that everybody likes, and he wouldn't do anything that anybody doesn't."

You can argue that whatever tinkering Romney has in mind is better than Obamacare. You can argue, as some have, that Massachusetts liberals made even Romney's state-level health care reforms worse than they otherwise would have been.

What you can't argue with is that Romney is comfortable with health care policy ideas conservatives increasingly reject, some of which helped form the basis of Obamacare.

At this point, opponents of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act don't have many options.

The Supreme Court upheld the controversial federal health care law, with Republican-appointed Chief Justice John Roberts providing the swing vote.

Soon many of the subsidies will begin to kick in, helping to entrench Obamacare as a middle-class entitlement. Once in effect, such entitlements are difficult ­ though not impossible ­ to repeal.

The window of opportunity for Republicans to roll back Obamacare remains open. But who knows when it will close?

Tinkering may soon be the GOP's only option unless they win key races in November and heed the conservative base's demands to go further.

Electing a Republican president ­ along with a Republican-controlled House and Senate ­ is a prerequisite for repealing Obamacare.

But that by itself won't be sufficient. Grassroots conservatives will still have to make sure the job gets done.



http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/11/romneys-embrace-of-obamacare-lite-is-nothing-new/

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