Tuesday, December 21, 2010

**JP** please, not just read but act

AOA !

EK CHRISTIAN NE EID UL FITR JOSH OR JAZBEY SAY MANAI !

EK HINDU NE EID UL AZHA PE QURBANI KI !

EK YAHUDI NE RAMZAN KA ROZA RAKHA !

KIA AAP NE KABHI AISA SUNA ?

NAHI NAA ?

TO PHIR YE SUB KIA HAI ?

MUSALMANU NE VELENTINE DAY PURJOSH ANDAAZ MAIN MANAYA.....

NEW YEAR & APRIL FOOL MANAYA......

BASANT MANAI.....

FM 90 PE RAKHI BANDHNEY KI TAQREEB.......

KITNEY AFSOOS KI BAAT HAI. ?

HAMARI IN SAB HARKATOON KI WAJA SE 

AAJ  ISLAM DUSHMAN LOGON KO HIMAT HOTI HAI K WO HAMAREY 

PYAREY NABI "REHMATE LIL AALAMEEN"

HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (S.A.W)

KI SHAN MAIN BAAR BAAR GUSTAKHI KARTEY HAIN. 

HUM MUSLIMS KI AANKHEIN KAB OR KAISEY KHULAIN GE ? 

KUB OUR KAISEY HUMAIN APNEY MUSLIM HONEY PE FAKHAR HO GA ? 

KAB AUR KAISEY ?
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Re: **JP** Selected Poetry

i'll simply say it " buhat khoub" and thanks for sharing 

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Maria Shaban <maria_gail4u@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Good for the Brits - he deserves the snub big time!!

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Re: You Are A Terrorist

Infowars thinks EVERYONE is a terrorist. Lunar cupcakes.

On Dec 21, 11:47 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> You Are A TerroristPaul Joseph WatsonInfowars.com
> December 21, 2010
> While the establishment constantly invokes the contrived terror threat as justification for the announcement that your every activity is being sent to federal fusion centers, those same fusion centers have been busy defining peaceful assembly, non-violent protest and criticism of the government as domestic terrorism. According to the government's own definition of what constitutes terrorist activity – you are a terrorist.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-WK2KtxHfQThere's no doubt that theWashington Post's eight page "Monitoring America" storyis correct when it states that Homeland Security is building a gargantuan database of every website you visit, every email you send and every phone conversation you have in order to genuinely hunt down terrorists.
> The problem is, according to numerous law enforcement advisories, training manuals, seminars and other literature, the federal government defines political activism, flying American flags, wearing Levi jeans, being nice, looking "normal" and going scuba diving all as signs of domestic terror.
> By encouraging Americans to "report suspicious activity" that includes such behavior, the feds are knowingly on a mission to chill political dissent, by making people afraid to exercise their constitutional rights in the fear that their neighbors will turn them in to the authorities unless they rigidly control their behavior and don't risk even patently benign activities being misconstrued.
> The following is a list of behaviors, actions or interests that the federal government, via centralized threat fusion centers that collate such information, considers to be potential signs of terrorismunder the MIAC Report.
> - Displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties
> - Supporting Congressman Ron Paul
> - Supporting former presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin
> - Supporting former Congressman Bob Barr
> - Opposing the implementation of a North American Union
> - Owning gold bullion
> - Displaying historical U.S. flags
> - Opposing abortion
> - Talking about the documentaryZeitgeistAccording to an earlier document issued by the Joint Terrorism Task Force (page 1–page 2), the following behaviors, actions or interests are also signs of terrorism.
> - Being interested in animal rights
> - Being a "lone individual"
> - Making numerous references to the U.S. Constitution
> - Defending the U.S. Constitution
> - Claiming driving is a right, not a privilege
> - Refusing to identify yourself to an authority figure
> - Attempting to monitor the actions of police
> - Being bald
> Under the terms of a ATexas Department of Public Safety Criminal Law Enforcement pamphlet, the following behaviors, actions or interests are also signs of terrorism.
> - Being a "nice guy"
> - Wearing Levi jeans
> - Communicating predominantly by cell phone, email or text message
> - Looking "normal" in appearance
> - Renting a car
> - Staying in a hotel or apartment
> - Renting a storage facility
> - Using cash to make large purchases
> - Using pre-paid cellphones or hand-held radios
> - Owning large amounts of medicines, alcohol, or baby formula
> - Gaining support for a cause by holding meetings, public rallies, or demonstrations
> - Gaining support for a cause by using websites, posters, leaflets, or underground press publications
> - Possessing a photo-copy of your drivers license, passport, social security card or birth certificate
> - Possessing or purchasing GPS technology
> - Walking, biking or driving near "potential targets"
> - Taking photographs of "potential targets," including bridges, power plants or government buildingsUnder the terms of a Virginia training manualused to help state employees recognize terrorists, the following behaviors, actions or interests are also signs of terrorism.
> - Being a property-rights activist
> - Trying to influence government or social policy
> - Undermining confidence in the government
> - Using a sketch pad, camera, map, binoculars or scuba equipment
> Do you fit into any of these categories? Do you wear Levi jeans, act like a "nice guy," look "normal" or support Ron Paul? Maybe you're a complete asshole, hate Ron Paul, look like a complete freak of nature, and only ever wear Lee jeans – but wait – you like scuba diving! Oh no, you're a terrorist. Your name will be in a threat fusion database somewhere, and under the new definition of what constitutes a terrorist, which federal agencies are working under and promoting, your neighbor will be acting perfectly reasonably when they inform on you to the authorities because you rented a hotel room, used a large amount of cash, or possess a significant amount of alcohol.
> Former FBI agent Michael German correctly identifies the fact that the "Monitoring America" program has more to do with discouraging Americans from engaging in any kind of dissent than it does with catching real terrorists.
> "Treating innocent citizens as suspects flies in the face of our most fundamental American values and does not make anyone safer. Americans must to be able to meet and debate without fear that their associations and dissent will end up in a law enforcement database. Law enforcement already has the authority it needs to fight crime and terrorism without sacrificing the rights of those it seeks to protect,"said German.
> This is about making every American in the country fear a knock on the door from Homeland Security because if they misbehave in any way, if they show any kind of dissent against the state, or even if they merely engage in completely innocent activities that are subsequently misconstrued by an informant society that has been trained to suspect anything and everything as possible terror, they could become a target.Stock up for the Holidays with eFoodsDirect and get FREE Shipping!(Ad)
> Welcome to the new America – a decrepit and decaying banana republic where the government tells its people to spy on each other – a country where everyone is a potential terrorist and just as in Orwell's 1984, will come under suspicion if they don't rigidly conform and ensure that their behavior displays the maximum amount of fealty and subservience to the state.Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer forPrison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show. Watson has been interviewed by many publications and radio shows, including Vanity Fair and Coast to Coast AM, America's most listened to late night talk show.http://www.infowars.com/you-are-a-terrorist/

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Re: Sneering as a Tactic: The Campaign Against WikiLeaks

Gotta admit, the CIA conspiracy thing is a laugh riot. Yes, the
dastardly Swedes are in bed with the CIA.

God thats funny

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Re: The real purpose of government

form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic
Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general
Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our
Posterity

this ain't particle physics kids.

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Re: It's Time to Stop the FCC Internet Czars

Hear! Hear!

Congress won't give us the power, so we'll take it.

Are you friggin kidding me? We down wit dat?

On Dec 21, 11:58 am, JSM <ekrub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's Time to Stop the FCC Internet
> Czars<http://links.heritage.org/ct/5054814:7657697485:m:1:147140772:506739A...>
> Imagine a future where the Internet is governed by unelected bureaucrats in
> Washington, DC, who rule at their own whim, regardless of legislators'
> demands or judicial rule. Sadly, that future is now. Today, the Federal
> Communications Commission is poised to make an unprecedented power
> grab and assert
> the authority to regulate the
> Internet<http://links.heritage.org/ct/5054815:7657697485:m:1:147140772:506739A...>,
> despite opposition from Congress and a contrary federal court ruling. And
> while it's a story that has gone largely unnoticed amid Congress' big-ticket
> lame duck decisions, it's a tale of unchecked government expansion that must
> be told.
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> When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying
> the cross.
>
> Sinclair Lewis

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It's Time to Stop the FCC Internet Czars

It's Time to Stop the FCC Internet Czars

Imagine a future where the Internet is governed by unelected bureaucrats in Washington, DC, who rule at their own whim, regardless of legislators' demands or judicial rule. Sadly, that future is now. Today, the Federal Communications Commission is poised to make an unprecedented power grab and assert the authority to regulate the Internet, despite opposition from Congress and a contrary federal court ruling. And while it's a story that has gone largely unnoticed amid Congress' big-ticket lame duck decisions, it's a tale of unchecked government expansion that must be told.

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The real purpose of government


The real purpose of government
by Larken Rose

Time for another simple line of reasoning which leads to a fairly disturbing conclusion. Once again, the challenge is not comprehending something complex; it's letting something painfully simple drill its way through the many years of indoctrination we've all had.

Most people agree that there are many kinds of unjustified, immoral force (a.k.a. violence), and a few kinds of justified force (mainly defensive). When a mugger swipes a little old lady's purse, that's bad. When a guy tackles the mugger to get it back for the little old lady, that's good. No doubt we could bicker endlessly about the "gray areas," and where we think the dividing line between moral force and immoral force is, but for this point, you don't need to use MY measure of what is or isn't justified. Use your own. But for now I'll use an example that most of us would agree upon.

The mugger has the ABILITY to take the purse by force, but does not have the RIGHT. The little old lady, on the other hand, has the RIGHT to use defensive force to stop the purse-snatcher, but she may not have the ABILITY. However, everyone ELSE has the right to use force on her behalf, either to be nice or because she pays them to (e.g., if she happens to be a rich little old lady with a bodyguard).

The context of the use of force is what determines whether it is moral or not. The little old lady's right to use force doesn't come from who she is, or from legislation. The right to use defensive force, to protect person or property, is an inherent right that every human has. No one had to give it to her. Likewise, the force used by the mugger is unjustified and immoral, not because of who he is or because "the law" says so, but because it's an infringement upon the little old lady's inherent rights.

So far, this is pretty basic stuff. But one little step of logic exposes something pretty disturbing. If the little old lady, and every one of us, already has the RIGHT to use defensive force (though we can bicker about where exactly to draw the line), then we have the right to have someone else use such force on our behalf. That's what private security guards and bodyguards are: people hired to exercise the right of self-defense on behalf of someone else. We as INDIVIDUALS have the right, so we can delegate it to anyone we wish, without the need for any "law" or special "authority."

So, what DO we need "government" for? What DOES require "legislation," if not inherently justified force? Simple: people use statutory "law" to exercise inherently IMMORAL force–which they as individuals do NOT have the right to use–to achieve desired ends. They want "free" stuff, and since they can't take it by force from their neighbors without unpleasant consequences, they have "tax collectors" and "government programs" do it for them. They want the poor cared for, or a military funded, or any number of other "programs" carried out, but they don't have the right to FORCE their neighbors to fund those things, so they ask "authority" to do it. They want certain vices and habits forcibly combated, even though those behaviors do not constitute force against anyone (e.g., drug use, prostitution, gambling, etc.). The average citizen has no right to forcibly interfere with those, so they want "government" to do it instead. In short, people want "government" to use force in situations where average people have NO RIGHT to use such force. (I hope most people on this list are already aware of the fact that EVERY "law," no matter how much rhetoric and euphemism it's hidden under, is a threat, backed up by the ability and willingness to use force.)

So here is the punch line, which is glaringly self-evident, but is vehemently denied by the vast majority of people. Read it a couple of times carefully, to let the meaning sink in.

"Government" is the addition of IMMORAL force (unjustified violence) into society.

And people wonder why "government" corrupts everything it touches, and why it doesn't fix the problems of society. Hint: you can't IMPROVE society by adding more UNJUSTIFIED VIOLENCE into it. (Duh.) It doesn't get any simpler than that, but the millions upon millions who have been thoroughly indoctrinated into the worship of the state–and I sadly confess to having been one for a long time– will come up with all manner of explanation, rationalization, and justification to try to make the insane sane. No election, no constitution, no legislation–NOTHING can alter that simple fact: the entire purpose of "authority"–the ONLY reason people want it to exist–is to exert violence (under the guise of "law") which is INHERENTLY IMMORAL AND UNJUSTIFIED. They don't need it for anything else.

For those who would deny that, I make this simple, unilateral pledge: I will never initiate force against you, or advocate that anyone else do so. I will use force, and advocate force, only when used in defense of person or property. Care to make that pledge as well? If so, you'll have to first give up your belief in elections, and constitutions, and legislation, and democracy, and authority, and government, since all of those are nothing more than excuses to use inherently immoral violence.


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Sneering as a Tactic: The Campaign Against WikiLeaks


Carpe Libertatem
Tuesday, December 21
Sneering as a Tactic: The Campaign Against WikiLeaks
Column by Glen Allport
 
Be very cautious when hearing any argument against someone who relies on a sneering tone. To put it bluntly, decent people don't use such tactics.
 
On the web are blog posts and columns that attempt to link Julian Assange and his WikiLeaks organization to Israel, or to the Rothschilds, or to the CIA. WikiLeaks, these pieces insist, is a psy-op designed to somehow help bring about the New World Order, to bolster the power elite at the expense of the rest of us, to undermine (or enhance, depending on who you read) American power or Israeli influence. What distinguishes and unites these smear pieces is tone: the authors sneer at Assange personally and at WikiLeaks, using snide remarks and insinuations.
 
In The Wiki-Weasel, We Thought We had Seen it All…, Gordon Duff quotes F. William Engdahl on the nature of WikiLeaks:
 
Wikileaks is a big and dangerous US intelligence Con Job which will likely be used to police the Internet.
 
Duff also quotes Bob Levin, said to be an FBI whistleblower, as saying:
 
Supporting WikiLeaks founder, Julius Assange and . . . calling for revolution due to government cover-ups are intended results of a counterintelligence reverse tactic.
 
Duff goes well beyond the slams of the major media against Assange and WikiLeaks, and he is not alone in doing so: This is the method being used, it appears, to undermine Assange in the alternative media among readers who don't believe the MSM. The "policing the Internet" fear is very real, for example, and blaming Assange for the problem is a natural for the smear campaign. But anyone who believes the U.S. government, or any other government for that matter, is not already working feverishly to monitor the web and to put controls in place has simply not been watching. Monitoring and controlling the Internet is just another goal of the anti-freedom elite, along with monitoring and controlling everything else: air travel, border crossings, broadcast media, printed news, education, and anything else we see, hear, or do. Those in power don't need WikiLeaks to justify a clampdown, although of course WikiLeaks will be used as an excuse (as will any other such attempts at providing truth) – but the clampdown was in progress long before and would have continued regardless of whether Assange came along. Any excuse will do: porn, copyright infringement, or the über-excuse of "terrorism." The Cyber Security Act of 2009, written well before the current WikiLeaks hysteria, may be in force by the time you read this, for example.
 
Meanwhile, neocon pro-Israel Senator Lieberman has managed to get Amazon.com to stop hosting WikiLeaks and has – along with other power players in the major media and the federal government – shown a vivid antipathy to Assange and his mission of bringing at least some transparency to our governments and major corporations. 
 
The massive and frantic response to WikiLeaks contrasts strongly with government responses to those who have actually been responsible for, or failed in their duty to prevent, serious crimes. Osama bin Laden has still not been arrested nearly a decade after the 9/11 attacks our government blames on him; neither the perps of the 9/11 attacks nor the bureaucrats and officials who failed in their duties so catastrophically that day have been inconvenienced by prison, fines, or anything else. But since the Big Leak a few months ago, PayPal, Bank of America, and several other corporations have cut off WikiLeaks' main avenues of fundraising and Assange has been arrested on "sex by surprise" (or Ex Post Facto Rape, as my wife puts it) charges – brought by a nation that seems to care little about actual rape. Naomi Wolf on the topic:
 
Indeed, the Swedish authorities ­ who are now being depicted as global feminist sex-crime-avenger superheroes in blue capes ­ were shamed by a 2008 Amnesty International report, Case Closed, as being far more dismissive of rape, and far more insulting to rape victims who can be portrayed as 'asking for it' by drinking or any kind of sexual ambiguity ­ than any other country in their comparison group. As Amnesty International put it in a blistering attack: "Swedish Rapists Get Impunity."  Sweden's negligence in prosecuting rape shows up politics behind Assange arrest
 
Assange has also been the focus of serious threats from powerful figures, including public suggestions that he be assassinated. Bradley Manning, the alleged source for the big 250,000-cable leak that triggered the elite's hysteria, has been imprisoned for seven months already without trial and is being treated with chilling cruelty by his captors. How does all that square with the psy-op theories? It doesn't, of course, and many other governments are also condemning WikiLeaks and Assange, because Power and corruption only thrive in the shadows. WikiLeaks terrifies the elite because it brings a (feeble and intermittent) light to their actions.
 
It says something important that Power is threatened by any glimpse, however small, into the workings of America's foreign policy, and of the other governments and organizations discussed in the leaked material. Imagine the fear being generated in corporations and governments world-wide at the prospect of having their too-often sleazy and criminal behavior outed for all to see: That is WikiLeaks' mission, and it is having an effect in the world.
 
Meanwhile, supporting Assange's right to publish information obtained from whistle-blowers, and opposing sanctions against him and his organization, is a diverse group that includes people with decades-long track records of supporting freedom of speech and of calling for transparency in both the government and corporate realms. These include:
 
Republican congressman Ron Paul, who himself has been sneered and laughed at on national television by fellow candidates in the 2008 presidential debates (you can hear laughter from a fellow candidate in this clip from one of the debates – at about 4:20 – for suggesting we end the IRS and the Federal Reserve, bring our troops home from Iraq, and generally follow the Constitution) and by commentators in the corporate media during his campaign. The clip is quite rousing, incidentally: Paul is in great form here.
 
Left-wing gadfly Michael Moore (includes video, 10 min 43 sec
 
Salon's Glenn Greenwald (who has also revealed the cruel treatment being inflicted on Bradley Manning)
 
Investigative journalist  John Pilger (includes video, 1 min 48 sec)
 
David Samuels of The Atlantic
The Icelandic Parliamentary General Committee (which may revoke the operating licenses for Visa and Mastercard in response to those companies cutting off WikiLeaks)
 
Anti-fascist left-wing author Naomi Wolf, quoted above
 
Veterans for Peace (video, 6 min 37 sec; excellent)
 
Antiwar.com's Justin Raimondo, who points out that:
 
". . . the prospect of having a web site devoted to spilling the secrets of the elites has brought out everyone's true colors. To those truly devoted to liberty, it has evoked cheers; for those with other agendas, it has provided a target for their polemical arrows."
 
This group – the relatively few visible supporters of Assange and his cause – does not sneer when talking or writing about people or groups they oppose. Ron Paul and the others above are outraged when appropriate, but civil even then.
 
By itself, civility is not proof of honesty, or correctness, or anything else – but it does seem to correlate at least somewhat with honesty and empathy. Personally, I find uncivil behavior – including a sneering tone in an attack on someone – to be a huge red flag.
 
WikiLeaks and Julian Assange are only the latest victims of such a campaign – of a smear campaign that relies, in part, on a sneering tone. Any person or group successful at exposing and demystifying Power is likely to suffer such an attack.
 
A successful effort to oppose the coercive elite and to bring more love and freedom into the world will always be met with resistance, and since it is difficult to argue the facts against someone who espouses truth and openness, and who eschews government coercion to further their goals, attacks from the elite typically employ tactics that are effective despite not being true, logical, fact-based, or in harmony with simple human decency.
 
Assassination, false imprisonment, slander, and threats are common examples of such tactics. In many cases, however, a smear campaign is the weapon of choice – at least initially. If the smear fails, other approaches are tried; in the case of Assange and WikiLeaks, it appears that several approaches are being tried at once.
 
A smear campaign can be as simple as sneering at the target (with or even without an accompanying accusation), because a sneer – in word, in tone of voice, or on someone's face – bypasses upper-brain logic and powerfully connects with human genetic social rules. When you see or hear someone sneering at (or about) someone else, it is difficult to avoid the feeling that the person being sneered at is disgusting (unless you already have a strong negative feeling about the person doing the sneering). That sense of disgust trumps almost anything else about the person being sneered at; the victim of a successful sneer campaign is, for all intents and purposes, no longer a human being in the eyes of the public. Whatever his or her message, the public's first response is disgust at the person – rendering the message harmless to those who might be inconvenienced by it.
 
There is an excellent discussion of this approach to overcoming one's opponents in Steven Pinker's  The Blank Slate: The modern denial of human nature.  I was stunned when I read it, especially since Pinker is talking about the allegedly dispassionate scientific community.  The world of power politics is, as you'd expect, even worse.
 
There are dark and secretive forces in this world, and some are featured as supposed puppetmasters in the sneer campaigns against WikiLeaks. But WikiLeaks is a threat to darkness and secrecy, not an agent for them. Whether this delicate new breeze of information, this small glimpse behind the veil of elite secrecy, will have lasting positive effect or be snuffed out by Power – as Power is openly and rabidly trying to do – remains to be seen, but either way, the WikiLeaks saga has put a spotlight on the secrecy, corruption, and cruelty that characterize Power in this world. That is something people of goodwill can all be thankful for.


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You Are A Terrorist



You Are A Terrorist
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
December 21, 2010

While the establishment constantly invokes the contrived terror threat as justification for the announcement that your every activity is being sent to federal fusion centers, those same fusion centers have been busy defining peaceful assembly, non-violent protest and criticism of the government as domestic terrorism. According to the government's own definition of what constitutes terrorist activity – you are a terrorist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-WK2KtxHfQ


There's no doubt that the Washington Post's eight page "Monitoring America" story is correct when it states that Homeland Security is building a gargantuan database of every website you visit, every email you send and every phone conversation you have in order to genuinely hunt down terrorists.

The problem is, according to numerous law enforcement advisories, training manuals, seminars and other literature, the federal government defines political activism, flying American flags, wearing Levi jeans, being nice, looking "normal" and going scuba diving all as signs of domestic terror.

By encouraging Americans to "report suspicious activity" that includes such behavior, the feds are knowingly on a mission to chill political dissent, by making people afraid to exercise their constitutional rights in the fear that their neighbors will turn them in to the authorities unless they rigidly control their behavior and don't risk even patently benign activities being misconstrued.

The following is a list of behaviors, actions or interests that the federal government, via centralized threat fusion centers that collate such information, considers to be potential signs of terrorism under the MIAC Report.

- Displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties

- Supporting Congressman Ron Paul

- Supporting former presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin

- Supporting former Congressman Bob Barr

- Opposing the implementation of a North American Union

- Owning gold bullion

- Displaying historical U.S. flags

- Opposing abortion

- Talking about the documentary Zeitgeist

According to an earlier document issued by the Joint Terrorism Task Force ( page 1 page 2), the following behaviors, actions or interests are also signs of terrorism.

- Being interested in animal rights

- Being a "lone individual"

- Making numerous references to the U.S. Constitution

- Defending the U.S. Constitution

- Claiming driving is a right, not a privilege

- Refusing to identify yourself to an authority figure

- Attempting to monitor the actions of police

- Being bald

Under the terms of a A Texas Department of Public Safety Criminal Law Enforcement pamphlet, the following behaviors, actions or interests are also signs of terrorism.

- Being a "nice guy"

- Wearing Levi jeans

- Communicating predominantly by cell phone, email or text message

- Looking "normal" in appearance

- Renting a car

- Staying in a hotel or apartment

- Renting a storage facility

- Using cash to make large purchases

- Using pre-paid cellphones or hand-held radios

- Owning large amounts of medicines, alcohol, or baby formula

- Gaining support for a cause by holding meetings, public rallies, or demonstrations

- Gaining support for a cause by using websites, posters, leaflets, or underground press publications

- Possessing a photo-copy of your drivers license, passport, social security card or birth certificate

- Possessing or purchasing GPS technology

- Walking, biking or driving near "potential targets"

- Taking photographs of "potential targets," including bridges, power plants or government buildings

Under the terms of a Virginia training manual used to help state employees recognize terrorists, the following behaviors, actions or interests are also signs of terrorism.

- Being a property-rights activist

- Trying to influence government or social policy

- Undermining confidence in the government

- Using a sketch pad, camera, map, binoculars or scuba equipment

Do you fit into any of these categories? Do you wear Levi jeans, act like a "nice guy," look "normal" or support Ron Paul? Maybe you're a complete asshole, hate Ron Paul, look like a complete freak of nature, and only ever wear Lee jeans – but wait – you like scuba diving! Oh no, you're a terrorist. Your name will be in a threat fusion database somewhere, and under the new definition of what constitutes a terrorist, which federal agencies are working under and promoting, your neighbor will be acting perfectly reasonably when they inform on you to the authorities because you rented a hotel room, used a large amount of cash, or possess a significant amount of alcohol.

Former FBI agent Michael German correctly identifies the fact that the "Monitoring America" program has more to do with discouraging Americans from engaging in any kind of dissent than it does with catching real terrorists.

"Treating innocent citizens as suspects flies in the face of our most fundamental American values and does not make anyone safer. Americans must to be able to meet and debate without fear that their associations and dissent will end up in a law enforcement database. Law enforcement already has the authority it needs to fight crime and terrorism without sacrificing the rights of those it seeks to protect," said German.

This is about making every American in the country fear a knock on the door from Homeland Security because if they misbehave in any way, if they show any kind of dissent against the state, or even if they merely engage in completely innocent activities that are subsequently misconstrued by an informant society that has been trained to suspect anything and everything as possible terror, they could become a target.

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Welcome to the new America – a decrepit and decaying banana republic where the government tells its people to spy on each other – a country where everyone is a potential terrorist and just as in Orwell's 1984, will come under suspicion if they don't rigidly conform and ensure that their behavior displays the maximum amount of fealty and subservience to the state.

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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show. Watson has been interviewed by many publications and radio shows, including Vanity Fair and Coast to Coast AM, America's most listened to late night talk show.


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The Spy Who Taxed Me


"Does no one think it strange that an American state hires a foreign company to spy on American citizens?"

Uncle Sam
The Spy Who Taxed Me
by Charles Glass
December 06, 2010

Everyone is a spy now. The state has always spied on its citizens, but the lens is turning the other way. For that, we are indebted to Julian Assange, Wikileaks, and the sources passing along military and diplomatic documents. This turnabout redresses the balance between government and public to a small extent, but the state's resources still outweigh ours. After all, the state uses our money to spy on us, and it has longer experience in keeping tabs on us. This vicious habit dates at least to the Espionage Act of 1917 that Woodrow Wilson used to watch and prosecute anyone who opposed his war in France's trenches.

Did the Espionage Act, which some politicians and journalists want to use to prosecute Julian Assange, uncover the Kaiser's spy network in the United States? Not exactly. The government used it to incarcerate socialists Eugene Debs and Kate Richards O'Hare and a film maker named Robert Goldstein, whose crime was to depict British atrocities against American colonists in his subversively titled 1917 epic The Spirit of '76. Government spying on American citizens went berserk with the post-war Red Scare and Palmer Raids. It expanded during World War II and the Cold War, when J. Edgar Hoover dispatched second-story men to ransack the tiny Socialist Workers Party's offices, follow journalists such as I. F. Stone, and plant microphones under Martin Luther King's bed. This led, lest we forget, to 1966's Freedom of Information Act and ostensible limits on what the Central Intelligence Agency could do within America's borders. Thanks to a loss of trust in government following Watergate, the Church and Pike Committees allowed the public to learn how domestic-surveillance programs such as COINTELPRO had violated their constitutional rights. But such "transparency" wouldn't last long.

Thanks to the investment of your taxes into modern electronic eavesdropping, the FBI's gumshoes don't have to get their hats wet to know what you are doing. Most of it is done from computer keyboards. The latest government program to keep an eye on you is "Hotwatch ," which tracks your credit-card purchases and frequent-flyer miles in the way Wikileaks revealed the State Department was asking American diplomats to do to their colleagues at the UN. Hotwatch does not require any judge to issue a court order­as the Constitution requires­to invade your financial privacy. It can even check, via supermarket loyalty cards, which vegetables and condoms you buy.

The Transport Security Agency collects nude photos of all air travelers for the masturbatory edification of its more eccentric employees. It hopes to extend this mandate to trains and ships. More ominously, the TSA targets those who criticize its behavior. A CNN journalist named Drew Griffin found himself on a TSA "watch list" of "domestic extremists" following his broadcasted criticisms of the agency. Journalists are attempting via the Freedom of Information Act to discover which other colleagues have earned the same accolade, so far without success. The FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) Amendment Act of 2008 grants "the National Security Agency [NSA] virtually limitless power to spy on Americans' international phone calls and emails…[and] new power to conduct dragnet surveillance of Americans' international telephone calls and e-mails en masse, without a warrant, without suspicion of any kind, and with only very limited judicial oversight."

Homeland Security is funding the installation of closed-circuit cameras in American city centers to monitor suspicious activity that might be "dry runs" for terrorist attacks. Houston is planning to install two to three hundred cameras, which should allow the police to keep an eye on demonstrators if no one else. The FBI, meanwhile, has put the Tea Party under surveillance. In the spirit of these times, Pennsylvania's state Homeland Security Agency contracted out surveillance of its citizens. Interestingly, this lucrative contract's lucky recipient was an Israeli company called the Institute of Terrorism Research and Response. (The Israelis have been watching the Palestinians' every movement in the occupied territories for so long that they are experts at observation.) Does no one think it strange that an American state hires a foreign company to spy on American citizens?

The government is watching you in more ways than I have space for, so it's little surprise that someone within the apparatus was outraged enough to expose the government to its overexposed citizens. Thanks to him, her, or them, we've been able to read what the military is doing in Afghanistan and Iraq and what America's representatives overseas are doing in our name. They read our mail, so we might as well read theirs. Government officials and their media apologists howl with fury and demand Julian Assange's arrest and execution, but we are expected to keep quiet when the government watches us. Let's face it­there are things worth watching. Our elected representatives, our diplomats, and our soldiers are our employees. We ought to know how they spend our money and whether they are disobeying the law, especially when it involves kidnapping and torture.

The population, whose long-term jobless are about to lose governmental financial assistance, is becoming restive. Its money is transferred to financial-service managers who produce nothing. Twenty percent of the federal budget goes to the Pentagon. This pays for the wars our soldiers must fight, the 700-plus bases and other facilities it maintains overseas, spying at home and abroad, and developing weapons that have long passed any positive function. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have cost more than a trillion dollars, which might have been better spent by the Americans who earned that money, or at least used for education, healthcare, and the increasingly poor underclass. The people are under siege by government and its primary beneficiaries among the arms makers and bankers, so someone must keep an eye on the masses for signs of resistance. Guess who pays for that? You do, sucker.

Noam Chomsky said recently that "one of the major reasons for government secrecy is to protect the government from its own population." Break the secrecy, and the population can at least see what is being done in its name. I don't know the government's public-relations budget, but it is probably fairly large. Every agency has a spokesperson whose task is to spin or conceal what those agencies are doing. It is interesting, once in a while, to see behind that obfuscation to the raw data.

It happened when the Iranian students who seized the U.S. Embassy in 1979 pieced together the thousands of documents the CIA and diplomats had shredded. They published more than forty volumes of diplomatic cables that revealed a concerted policy of subversion and contempt for democratic opposition to American-backed dictators in the Middle East. The "Den of Spies" books were the equivalent of today's Wikileaks revelations, and the U.S. government was as angry then as it is now that anyone had a peek at what it was saying and doing. When the journalist, teacher, and civil-rights worker William Worthy brought the volumes into Boston's Logan Airport in 1981, the CIA and FBI seized them. Worthy sued, and the courts awarded him his purloined documents and $16,000 compensation. (The books had been sold in Iranian bookshops, where thousands of copies had been sold. I bought a set at the same time Worthy did, but I donated mine to a London library.)

The Internet permits Wikileaks to make its documents available to the public without risking their seizure at an airport. The U.S. government is pursuing Julian Assange with more vigor than it did William Worthy. It has shut down his website where it can, and it is threatening to prosecute him under, you guessed it, 1917's Espionage Act. Those of us who are tired of being watched and would like to go on watching the watchers owe our support to Wikileaks.

http://takimag.com/article/the_spy_who_taxed_me/print

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Re: **JP** Low cost electricity petition rejected by Lahore High cour.

Jago Pakistan, everyone here is corrupt :(

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Re: Feminists turn on fellow progressives over Assange rape charges

CIA-inspired plot

Yes, the evil Swedes are doing the CIA's bidding

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**JP** Jobs in Pakistan

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Please follow the links to view the details

Sales Operation Manager - Lahore
Tuesday, December 21, 2010
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Accounts Officer / Taxation - Karachi
Tuesday, December 21, 2010
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Software Engineer at Zin Technologies - Lahore
Monday, December 20, 2010
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PHP Developer - Lahore
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Business Development Manager - Islamabad
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Assistant Manager Administration - Karachi
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Export Assistant - Karachi
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Store Manager - Lahore
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Engineering and Technical Jobs at NESPAK - Lahore
Monday, December 20, 2010
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IT Jobs - Peshawar
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Additional Director Monitoring & Vigilance at DHA - Lahore
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Regional Coordinator Army Public Schools & Colleges - Peshawar
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Accountant - Peshawar
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Relationship Officer - Karachi
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Material Inspector - Karachi
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CSR (Saq Communications) - Islamabad
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Content Writer - Karachi
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Data Entry - Work From Home
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Content Writers - Karachi
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Project Director DHA Medical Centre - Lahore
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Additional Director Monitoring / Facilitation at DHA - Lahore
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Additional Director Security at DHA - Lahore
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Telsales Agents at TeleGroups Inc - Karachi
Monday, December 20, 2010
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Human Resource Manager - Islamabad
Monday, December 20, 2010
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**JP** QURAN SAYS


اِنَّ الَّذِيْنَ يَتْلُوْنَ كِتٰبَ اللّٰهِ وَ اَقَامُوا الصَّلٰوةَ وَ اَنْفَقُوْا مِمَّا رَزَقْنٰهُمْ سِرًّا وَّ عَلَانِيَةً يَّرْجُوْنَ تِجَارَةً لَّنْ تَبُوْرَۙ۰۰۲۹

جو لوگ کتاب اللہ کی تلاوت کرتے ہیں اور نماز قائم کرتے ہیں ، اور جو کچھ ہم نے اِنہیں رزق دیا ہے اس میں کھلے اور چھپے خرچ کرتے ہیں ، یقینا وہ ایک ایسی تجارت کے متوقع ہیں جس میں ہرگز خسارہ نہ ہوگا۔ (29)

Surely those who recite the Book of Allah and establish Prayer and spend, privately and publicly, out of what We have provided them, look forward to a trade that shall suffer no loss;


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Feminists turn on fellow progressives over Assange rape charges

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Re: **JP** 1131~*Phool Kyun Naheen Kahta*~Pak Old...


Dear Saba Syed,
Just to have full flowering at bloom, continous efforts, dedcation,honesty and committment with the cause are the fundamental requirements.
 
 
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From: saba syed <sabasagar@hotmail.com>
Subject: **JP** 1131~*Phool Kyun Naheen Kahta*~Pak Old...
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Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 9:33 AM

1131~*Phool Kyun Naheen Kahta*~Pak Old...

Kyun

Jalte huwe sahra se guzri houn

Kyun koi sahara naheen deta

Muddat se khamosh khamosh si houn

Is darya main

Woh pathar kyun naheen pahnkta

Kabhi dariche main khari hoti houn

To woh chaira hi kyun naheen dekhai deta

Us ki rah pe chalti houn

To woh aawaz kyun naheen deta

Apni sansoon main khushbo basa kar

Us k aahngan main utarti houn

To woh mujhye phool kyun naheen kahta

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Re: **JP** Low cost electricity petition rejected by Lahore High cour.

Bnda kya krey aisi Government ka? :(

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