Thursday, February 17, 2011

**JP** Sura al-Isrā - Ayat


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Sura al-Isrā'

Sura : Makki

by Tilawat : 17

by Reveal : 50

Ruku` : 12

Ayats : 111

Part No. : 15


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**JP** Fwd: Rymond devis aur mulla zaeef f??????????????



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**JP** why the embassy and the ameriki hukumut so desperate to get the accused terrorist released?

Now is the time to break our slavery of foreign embassies and stand for our nation's right and sovereignty. The kerry mission to free accussed terrorists have failed, the government is trying its best to get the accused terrorist released but unable to say it in the open due to the fear of the nation's wrath.....we should all unite together to stand against all kinds of terrorists and for the honor of every  human being.


**JP** what a women

see this

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**JP** 1157~*Khawab Pak Odekhe the*~ld...

1157~*Khawab Pak Odekhe the*~ld...

Woh ajeeb mousam tha

Ham ne kore kaghaz par

Apne khawab likhe the

Ham ne khawab dekhe the

Ankahi kahani k

Haruf sab duaa se the

Dard k bulawe the

Dil ki humrani thi

Duur afaq kanaron tak

Rahguzar hamari thi

Angint zamano main

Sans le rahe the ham

Ajnabi jazeron main

Naqshpa hamare the

Aankh main theen tahreren

Bepanah jalwon ki

Chandni k lahjye ne

Ham se guftgu ki thi

Zindagi ka har manzer

Lamha lamha jaga tha

Pahli baar hi ham ne

Zindagi ko dekha tha

Rooz wa shab k male main

Khawab hi to sache the

Khoof hay to itna hay

Faasloon k junghal main

Khawab kho bhi jate hain

~@~@~R*u*k*h*s*a*n*a~@~@~

Re: **JP** URGENT: Office Assistant Required (Female)

did any realized.. sumera's id is sumera faisal... and she said the director name is faisal ... sumera or who ever u are ... make sense dude ... and MASHALLAH u linked wid ur director closely then why dont u give this opportunity to ur relatives... ya sure everyone give priority to their relatives or frenz etc...  how we proud to be a pakistani ??? still u wanna showing right urself as long as u made a mistake so u must appologize... and if u can have any lil humanity then u will not try ever again... Pakstanis are sleeping , it doesnt mean that we have lost our sense too.. 
 



Regards
BazMi
Karachi-Pakistan




 



From: Talha Ahmed Ali <talhaahmedali@gmail.com>
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Cc: sumerafaisal@yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 2:47:20 AM
Subject: Re: **JP** URGENT: Office Assistant Required (Female)

Dear Sumera,
 
Listen we are only "Pakistanis" and you might be a "normal" one. Mind your language and who are you are to call up for the CVs and photographs of the females on your personal ID? Do you have any legal right to gather the personal information over the internet? If you are from a company then why don't you use the company email id? We are using our mouth where it is required. Never ever try to degrade a single Pakistani.
 
Reply with the proper email address, office address and phone numbers of your company's high officials. Please do not try to be a part of cyber crime behave professionally and sensibly. Be in your senses if you are normal Pakistani. Behave educated and ask you company high officals to spend money to give the advertisement in newspapaper. Do not save money and hell gather the personal information of the Pakistani girls and boys over this group "Join Pakistan".
 
Now please br professional not "normal".
 
Dear Owner of JP,
 
I request if this "Sumera normal" say a word to any Pakistani as a normal or abnornal then kindly warn her and if stil not stopped then ban her.
 
@Sumera: Please give the details so that people might walk in to drop CVs and the rest.
 
In Pakistan there is crowd who is jobless so try to communicate the same on such a forum wher you can easily find a suitable person for the said position. Use newspaper and paid websites so that things could be more organized.
 
I apologize for any offence. I am not bothered of you or your company. I am only concerned that why you are calling up the CV's and pictures of the females on you personal id? Would you ever like to forward your personal info or Pic to any one like this? No, because this is not ethical.
 
JAZAKHUMULLAH !!!
 
Regards,
 
Talha 

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Sumera Faisal <sumerafaisal@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear all at JP Group,
 
From past few days you guys are sending these emails without even knowing a single thing. You guys are normal Pakistanis and can say things easily when you don't have to use your mouth. Just stop this and read the following lines.
 
First of all, let me introduce myself, i am Admin Manager in the company mentioned. We are looking for couple of ladies to handle some of our office tasks but despite receiving many CVs we unable to find anyone as the people who are seding CVs not even noticing what is the post mentioned in the Subject line.
 
I ve already informed it to the Director of our company and anyone of you interested to meet him you can come and meet directly to him. His name is Faisal.
 
 
Regards
 

 

From: Talha Ahmed Ali <talhaahmedali@gmail.com>
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Cc: asmi87@yahoo.com
Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 5:53:27 PM

Subject: Re: **JP** URGENT: Office Assistant Required (Female)

JAZAKHUMULLAH!

 

Actually sis these days the crime rate is increased due to our lack of knowledge. Till today might possible several girls and boys may have posted their CVs and photographs. Today there are such sort of editing tools are available that can fix the subject to any fake thing. It is our duty to educate our people to beware of the scam.

 

As far as this "Sumera" is concerned I wish if someone can visit the given office address. I am not in Pakistan otherwise I would have done that. If the said office and person is not available then we can raise a police complain and can catch this person very easily through "Join Pakistan" google server as the IP address from which the email have been sent might have logged there.

 

Dear sisters,

 

Job is directly from ALLAH Kareem so do not rely on anyone else for the same. Before any job it is your respect and dignity and you are the main person who can give security to your respect, May ALLAH secures us all. I also condemn those companies in which the HR personnel give ads in the newspaper and do not communicate the complete office address and official Ids and ask the public to drop the CVs and photographs.

 

Please dear Pakistanis lets join hands together and save the information assets of our sisters and brothers.

 

JAZAHUMULLAH WAL KHIAR  



 
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:34 PM, asmi 87 <asmi87@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Talha,
 
I have just read your email. you are right we should try to catch that kind of people. because they are palying needy females. its my request to you if you will catch that kindly of people it will be your great efforts.
 
Thanks & Regards
 
your elder sis

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From: atta alvi <attadawchem@hotmail.com>

Subject: RE: **JP** URGENT: Office Assistant Required (Female)
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 1:34 AM


please check someone as talha told.

ATTA UR REHMAN


Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:03:17 +0400
Subject: Re: **JP** URGENT: Office Assistant Required (Female)
From: talhaahmedali@gmail.com
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
CC: sumerafaisal@yahoo.com

Dear All,
 
Please let this lady Sumera answer that why is she/he gathering the information of the females of Karachi. If she is real then we shall get a IP proxy check of her internet by her next email that from where is she emailing and why is she not using her offcial ID.
 
Please dear sisters do not send your pictures and personal information to anyone till you do not get affirm that where are you sending the details.
 
regards,
 
Talha
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:01 PM, atta alvi <attadawchem@hotmail.com> wrote:
SO MANY TIMES I HAVE SEEN THIS OPPORTUNITY HERE.MAY I ASK WHY?
WHY YOU HAVE THIS VACANCY OPENED AFTER EVERY MONTH?
PLEASE TELL US.


From: faisal_descentboy@hotmail.com
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: **JP** URGENT: Office Assistant Required (Female)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:11:44 +0500



 Hi iam faisal i have done msc in mathematics plz any job required plz inform me plz sumera

Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:01:18 -0800
From: sumerafaisal@yahoo.com
Subject: **JP** URGENT: Office Assistant Required (Female)
To: dsmpk911@googlegroups.com

Office Assistant Required (Female)

 

Position: Office Assistant
Company: Moon International
Location: Opposite Aladdin Park
Rashid Minhas Road karachi
Karachi
 
Responsibilities: Preparing and sending correspondance, Greeting Guests.
Requirements: Communication Skills, MS Office and Internet, Professional and positive attitude.
Experience: 1 to 2 years
Education: Minimum intermediate
 
How to apply: Send CV along with latest Photograph on following email addresses latest by 15th February.
 
moon_68@hotmail.com
sumerafaisal@yahoo.com


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**JP** FW: [Pindi-Islamabad:68136] Mistakes in Prayers

 

namaz

 

RE: **JP** ♥ URDU....VERY IMPORTANT GIFT

Please don't go into this again and again....
all have their answers reserved,,,better not to go into this discussion.
by the way,   birthday is celebrated when the people are alive...and not when they are died.
 
 
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NCR Corporation Kuwait 

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From: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com [mailto:joinpakistan@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Qaiser Bashir
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 AM
To: Anwar Shad
Subject: **JP** ♥ URDU....VERY IMPORTANT GIFT

 

 

 

 

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Ann (the man) Coulter at CPAC

"I think there should be more jailed journalists."

Can we start with Fox News?

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Re: Gov. Christy: "I'll say what no one wants to talk about"

On Feb 16, 9:18 pm, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "What do I have to do outside of threatening to commit suicide to
> convince people I'm not running?" he told the gathering.

I wonder when he'll threaten to commit suicide?

I would think someone would call the cops if he does.

"I don't care what he thinks, the country needs him" - Ann (the man)
Coulter

We need a guy who's threatening to threaten to commit suicide?

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Conservatives don't buy votes, they're too cheap for that, instead
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Re: Boehner: "if some people lose their jobs, so be it

On Feb 16, 10:28 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> bureaucrats are parasites, not people

Bureaucrats are not people?

Republitards wrote the book; "To Serve Man".

It's a cookbook!

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Re: Exposed: The lie that led us into Iraq

On Feb 16, 10:40 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> stupio this post shows what a shit for brains you are in so many ways, as
> all your posts do
>
> among other things, Obama's narcissism far eclipses Bush
>
> you are simply a little whore who sucks your nazi masters cock all day

Was I just personally attacked?
They seem to love fantasizing about sexual assaults.

Of course I won't wait for Conservatives to come rescue me because it
serves their purpose not to.

Why do Republitards get so emotional when I push the buttons on my
keyboard?

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Re: Exposed: The lie that led us into Iraq

The lie wasn't about weapons it was and is about protecting Saudi
Arabia and the oil. The agreement the only accept our dollar as
payment.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
> Exposed: The lie that led us into Iraq
> The Iraqi defector who claimed Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass
> destruction has finally confessed that he made the whole thing up. An
> instant guide
> posted on February 16, 2011, at 10:12 AM
>
> Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi says he is happy he lied about an Iraqi
> weapons program and saw no other way to bring Saddam Hussein down.
> Photo: Screen shot, guardian.co.uk SEE ALL 14 PHOTOS
> Eight years after then–Secretary of State Colin Powell used harrowing
> stories of Saddam Hussein's alleged biological and chemical weapons
> programs to make the Bush administration's case for invading Iraq, the
> man who supplied intel agents with those stories admits he made them
> up. Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, known to U.S. and other Western spy
> agencies as "Curveball," tells The Guardian that he "fabricated" the
> whole WMD tale in the hopes of bringing Hussein down. He certainly
> helped, but what's his real story?
>
> Who is "Curveball"?
> Janabi was an Iraqi chemical engineer who now lives in Karlsruhe,
> Germany. He fled Iraq in 1995, and, beginning in 2000, worked for
> several years as a paid informant for Germany's secret service. He and
> his family were granted German citizenship in 2008. His now-admitted
> lies to German agents helped found the U.S. case for invading Iraq.
>
> What did he lie about?
> WMDs. Janabi claimed he helped build mobile germ-warfare labs at a
> facility hidden inside a birdseed purification plant just south of
> Baghdad. These mobile labs, he said, were driven from place to place
> to avoid detection. To bolster his story, Janabi also said that 12
> bio-weapons technicians died in a 1998 accident. Colin Powell included
> all those fabrications in a pivotal speech to the United Nations in
> February, 2003.
>
> Why did Janabi lie?
> He now tells The Guardian that he wanted to "get rid" of Saddam.
> German agents, he says, "gave me this chance. I had the chance to
> fabricate something to topple the regime." The former CIA chief in
> Europe, Tyler Drumheller, says he thinks it's more likely Janabi just
> wanted to be rewarded with asylum in Germany. "If this was part of a
> grand scheme to overthrow Suddam Hussein then he is one of the world's
> greatest strategic planners," Drumheller says.
>
> Did intel agencies really believe him?
> Janabi says he thinks some in the intelligence world had uncovered his
> lies in mid-2000, but that the German agents who contacted him two
> years later still seemed to be taking his stories seriously. U.S.
> officials didn't have any direct contact with Janabi. Drumheller says
> he warned CIA headquarters before Powell's speech that Janabi might be
> a liar, and says CIA Deputy Director John McLaughlin replied, "Oh, I
> hope not, because this is really all we have."
>
> What's the fallout?
> "On the word of this third-rate, third-world con man, Bush caused tens
> of thousands of injuries and thousands of deaths among American
> forces, spent a trillion American dollars, and destroyed American
> credibility worldwide," says Christopher Manion at LewRockwell.com. On
> the other hand, says Tim Dickinson at Rolling Stone, Janabi is "a man
> who saw an opportunity to change history, and seized it."
>
> Does Janabi regret his lies?
> No. "I and my sons are proud... that we were the reason to give Iraq
> the margin of democracy," he insists. "Can you give me another
> solution? Believe me, there was no other way to bring about freedom to
> Iraq. There were no other possibilities."
>
> Sources: Guardian (2,3,4), Death & Taxes, NPR (2), Rolling Stone,
> LewRockwell.com
>
> More:
> http://theweek.com/article/index/212169/exposed-the-lie-that-led-us-into-iraq
>
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> Have a great day,
> Tommy
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Re: Conservatives: if your unemployed, you're lazy and uneducated

On Feb 16, 10:28 pm, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The fact is some politicians are willing to speak the truth and some
> are not. The truth sometimes hurts.

And sometimes it's insulting.
The fact is they offer no solutions, just insults.

> Right now I personally know of
> three people who are unemployed and two of them ARE lazy and not worth
> much. They are a leech on the system. They put more effort into
> beating the system to ensure they continue to draw a government check
> than they do trying to find a job. To them, people like you are their
> meal ticket.

And to them, people like you offer nothing of any value.
You want the truth, ok lets talk some truth...
the fact is some of these people are unemployable.
No company in their right mind would have them because they wouldn't
benefit their business, and in fact hurt their business.
Of course companies don't necessarily need a right mind, they can hire
anyone they want right?
Just not them.

So the question becomes what to do with them?
Your side offers nothing.
No learning, no education, no training, no nothing.
And yet you expect them to somehow pull themselves out of quicksand.

> This doesn't mean I don't understand times are hard and that there are
> a lot of honest, hard working, well educated people who simply can't
> find a job.

Frank the problem is this;
Republicans lump everyone into the same bucket and make no such
thoughtful distinctions like you just made.
I did notice how you left out "honest hard working uneducated
people"... possible an honest omission or you've been thoroughly brain
washed by now and can't help it.

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Re: Exposed: The lie that led us into Iraq

Tommy thinks with his prostate

It's his largest and most intelligent organ, and the one that he stimulates most often

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:38 PM, frankg <frankg2@gmail.com> wrote:
Tommy,

Too funny. How long did it take you to realize you just posted
something that, in effect, helped justify Bush's claim that it was
faulty intelligence that led to the invasion?  Then, true to form, you
quickly post a follow-up that basically says 'ah, doesn't matter..
Bush woulda done it anyway'.  Whew, that was close!  :)

On Feb 16, 7:44 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Curveball" might have lied, but even if he hadn't George W. Bush
> would have still have invaded Iraq.  Bush was only looking for an
> excuse, Curveball gave him one.  If Curveball hadn't lied, Bush would
> have found (or invented) someone else to lie.
>
> The invasion of Iraq was illegal, and was a personal Bush family
> Vendetta against Sadaam Hussein, who tried to kill Daddy Bush. Cheney
> and war profiteering greed fueled the motivation.
>
> On 2/16/11, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Exposed: The lie that led us into Iraq
> > The Iraqi defector who claimed Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass
> > destruction has finally confessed that he made the whole thing up. An
> > instant guide
> > posted on February 16, 2011, at 10:12 AM
>
> > Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi says he is happy he lied about an Iraqi
> > weapons program and saw no other way to bring Saddam Hussein down.
> > Photo: Screen shot, guardian.co.uk SEE ALL 14 PHOTOS
> > Eight years after then–Secretary of State Colin Powell used harrowing
> > stories of Saddam Hussein's alleged biological and chemical weapons
> > programs to make the Bush administration's case for invading Iraq, the
> > man who supplied intel agents with those stories admits he made them
> > up. Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, known to U.S. and other Western spy
> > agencies as "Curveball," tells The Guardian that he "fabricated" the
> > whole WMD tale in the hopes of bringing Hussein down. He certainly
> > helped, but what's his real story?
>
> > Who is "Curveball"?
> > Janabi was an Iraqi chemical engineer who now lives in Karlsruhe,
> > Germany. He fled Iraq in 1995, and, beginning in 2000, worked for
> > several years as a paid informant for Germany's secret service. He and
> > his family were granted German citizenship in 2008. His now-admitted
> > lies to German agents helped found the U.S. case for invading Iraq.
>
> > What did he lie about?
> > WMDs. Janabi claimed he helped build mobile germ-warfare labs at a
> > facility hidden inside a birdseed purification plant just south of
> > Baghdad. These mobile labs, he said, were driven from place to place
> > to avoid detection. To bolster his story, Janabi also said that 12
> > bio-weapons technicians died in a 1998 accident. Colin Powell included
> > all those fabrications in a pivotal speech to the United Nations in
> > February, 2003.
>
> > Why did Janabi lie?
> > He now tells The Guardian that he wanted to "get rid" of Saddam.
> > German agents, he says, "gave me this chance. I had the chance to
> > fabricate something to topple the regime." The former CIA chief in
> > Europe, Tyler Drumheller, says he thinks it's more likely Janabi just
> > wanted to be rewarded with asylum in Germany. "If this was part of a
> > grand scheme to overthrow Suddam Hussein then he is one of the world's
> > greatest strategic planners," Drumheller says.
>
> > Did intel agencies really believe him?
> > Janabi says he thinks some in the intelligence world had uncovered his
> > lies in mid-2000, but that the German agents who contacted him two
> > years later still seemed to be taking his stories seriously. U.S.
> > officials didn't have any direct contact with Janabi. Drumheller says
> > he warned CIA headquarters before Powell's speech that Janabi might be
> > a liar, and says CIA Deputy Director John McLaughlin replied, "Oh, I
> > hope not, because this is really all we have."
>
> > What's the fallout?
> > "On the word of this third-rate, third-world con man, Bush caused tens
> > of thousands of injuries and thousands of deaths among American
> > forces, spent a trillion American dollars, and destroyed American
> > credibility worldwide," says Christopher Manion at LewRockwell.com. On
> > the other hand, says Tim Dickinson at Rolling Stone, Janabi is "a man
> > who saw an opportunity to change history, and seized it."
>
> > Does Janabi regret his lies?
> > No. "I and my sons are proud... that we were the reason to give Iraq
> > the margin of democracy," he insists. "Can you give me another
> > solution? Believe me, there was no other way to bring about freedom to
> > Iraq. There were no other possibilities."
>
> > Sources: Guardian (2,3,4), Death & Taxes, NPR (2), Rolling Stone,
> > LewRockwell.com
>
> > More:
> >http://theweek.com/article/index/212169/exposed-the-lie-that-led-us-i...
>
> > --
> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > Have a great day,
> > Tommy
>
> --
> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> Have a great day,
> Tommy

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Re: Exposed: The lie that led us into Iraq

stupio this post shows what a shit for brains you are in so many ways, as all your posts do

among other things, Obama's narcissism far eclipses Bush

you are simply a little whore who sucks your nazi masters cock all day

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:32 PM, studio <tlack@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 16, 7:44 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Curveball" might have lied, but even if he hadn't George W. Bush
> would have still have invaded Iraq.  Bush was only looking for an
> excuse, Curveball gave him one.  If Curveball hadn't lied, Bush would
> have found (or invented) someone else to lie.
>
> The invasion of Iraq was illegal, and was a personal Bush family
> Vendetta against Sadaam Hussein, who tried to kill Daddy Bush. Cheney
> and war profiteering greed fueled the motivation.

No doubt Bush Jr. has the super-sized ego that Republicans crave.
He bought a country, tripled militarism, increased the police state,
increased intelligence gathering make work, brought the economy to
it's knees, brought death to 100's of thousands, stifled whistle
blowing, dumbed down America with lies, had a war on science, and
created zero jobs.

All for his personal ego.
That's a real leader and what makes America great according to many
Republitards.

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Re: Exposed: The lie that led us into Iraq

Tommy,

Too funny. How long did it take you to realize you just posted
something that, in effect, helped justify Bush's claim that it was
faulty intelligence that led to the invasion? Then, true to form, you
quickly post a follow-up that basically says 'ah, doesn't matter..
Bush woulda done it anyway'. Whew, that was close! :)

On Feb 16, 7:44 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Curveball" might have lied, but even if he hadn't George W. Bush
> would have still have invaded Iraq.  Bush was only looking for an
> excuse, Curveball gave him one.  If Curveball hadn't lied, Bush would
> have found (or invented) someone else to lie.
>
> The invasion of Iraq was illegal, and was a personal Bush family
> Vendetta against Sadaam Hussein, who tried to kill Daddy Bush. Cheney
> and war profiteering greed fueled the motivation.
>
> On 2/16/11, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Exposed: The lie that led us into Iraq
> > The Iraqi defector who claimed Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass
> > destruction has finally confessed that he made the whole thing up. An
> > instant guide
> > posted on February 16, 2011, at 10:12 AM
>
> > Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi says he is happy he lied about an Iraqi
> > weapons program and saw no other way to bring Saddam Hussein down.
> > Photo: Screen shot, guardian.co.uk SEE ALL 14 PHOTOS
> > Eight years after then–Secretary of State Colin Powell used harrowing
> > stories of Saddam Hussein's alleged biological and chemical weapons
> > programs to make the Bush administration's case for invading Iraq, the
> > man who supplied intel agents with those stories admits he made them
> > up. Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, known to U.S. and other Western spy
> > agencies as "Curveball," tells The Guardian that he "fabricated" the
> > whole WMD tale in the hopes of bringing Hussein down. He certainly
> > helped, but what's his real story?
>
> > Who is "Curveball"?
> > Janabi was an Iraqi chemical engineer who now lives in Karlsruhe,
> > Germany. He fled Iraq in 1995, and, beginning in 2000, worked for
> > several years as a paid informant for Germany's secret service. He and
> > his family were granted German citizenship in 2008. His now-admitted
> > lies to German agents helped found the U.S. case for invading Iraq.
>
> > What did he lie about?
> > WMDs. Janabi claimed he helped build mobile germ-warfare labs at a
> > facility hidden inside a birdseed purification plant just south of
> > Baghdad. These mobile labs, he said, were driven from place to place
> > to avoid detection. To bolster his story, Janabi also said that 12
> > bio-weapons technicians died in a 1998 accident. Colin Powell included
> > all those fabrications in a pivotal speech to the United Nations in
> > February, 2003.
>
> > Why did Janabi lie?
> > He now tells The Guardian that he wanted to "get rid" of Saddam.
> > German agents, he says, "gave me this chance. I had the chance to
> > fabricate something to topple the regime." The former CIA chief in
> > Europe, Tyler Drumheller, says he thinks it's more likely Janabi just
> > wanted to be rewarded with asylum in Germany. "If this was part of a
> > grand scheme to overthrow Suddam Hussein then he is one of the world's
> > greatest strategic planners," Drumheller says.
>
> > Did intel agencies really believe him?
> > Janabi says he thinks some in the intelligence world had uncovered his
> > lies in mid-2000, but that the German agents who contacted him two
> > years later still seemed to be taking his stories seriously. U.S.
> > officials didn't have any direct contact with Janabi. Drumheller says
> > he warned CIA headquarters before Powell's speech that Janabi might be
> > a liar, and says CIA Deputy Director John McLaughlin replied, "Oh, I
> > hope not, because this is really all we have."
>
> > What's the fallout?
> > "On the word of this third-rate, third-world con man, Bush caused tens
> > of thousands of injuries and thousands of deaths among American
> > forces, spent a trillion American dollars, and destroyed American
> > credibility worldwide," says Christopher Manion at LewRockwell.com. On
> > the other hand, says Tim Dickinson at Rolling Stone, Janabi is "a man
> > who saw an opportunity to change history, and seized it."
>
> > Does Janabi regret his lies?
> > No. "I and my sons are proud... that we were the reason to give Iraq
> > the margin of democracy," he insists. "Can you give me another
> > solution? Believe me, there was no other way to bring about freedom to
> > Iraq. There were no other possibilities."
>
> > Sources: Guardian (2,3,4), Death & Taxes, NPR (2), Rolling Stone,
> > LewRockwell.com
>
> > More:
> >http://theweek.com/article/index/212169/exposed-the-lie-that-led-us-i...
>
> > --
> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > Have a great day,
> > Tommy
>
> --
> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> Have a great day,
> Tommy

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Re: Exposed: The lie that led us into Iraq

On Feb 16, 7:44 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Curveball" might have lied, but even if he hadn't George W. Bush
> would have still have invaded Iraq.  Bush was only looking for an
> excuse, Curveball gave him one.  If Curveball hadn't lied, Bush would
> have found (or invented) someone else to lie.
>
> The invasion of Iraq was illegal, and was a personal Bush family
> Vendetta against Sadaam Hussein, who tried to kill Daddy Bush. Cheney
> and war profiteering greed fueled the motivation.

No doubt Bush Jr. has the super-sized ego that Republicans crave.
He bought a country, tripled militarism, increased the police state,
increased intelligence gathering make work, brought the economy to
it's knees, brought death to 100's of thousands, stifled whistle
blowing, dumbed down America with lies, had a war on science, and
created zero jobs.

All for his personal ego.
That's a real leader and what makes America great according to many
Republitards.

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Re: Conservatives: if your unemployed, you're lazy and uneducated

Studio,

> I agree also...the difference of course is that only Conservatives
> tell the unemployed they're lazy, uneducated and not worth much.

Your generalizations are duly noted, but I think you know better. No
Conservative, let alone "Conservatives" as a whole, suggest ALL
unemployed are lazy, uneducated and not worth much.

The fact is some politicians are willing to speak the truth and some
are not. The truth sometimes hurts. Right now I personally know of
three people who are unemployed and two of them ARE lazy and not worth
much. They are a leech on the system. They put more effort into
beating the system to ensure they continue to draw a government check
than they do trying to find a job. To them, people like you are their
meal ticket.

This doesn't mean I don't understand times are hard and that there are
a lot of honest, hard working, well educated people who simply can't
find a job. But it's disingenuous to suggest benefits are not made
available to these people. And it's simply disastrous to ignore the
extensive abuse, fraud and corruption that is bleeding the system to
death and then suggest the only answer is to throw more money at it.

On Feb 16, 9:00 pm, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 15, 1:42 pm, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Michael,
>
> > > Unemployment is caused (primarily) by Government intervention into the marketplace.
> > > It is not a 'democrat' or a 'republican' only thing as they BOTH do their share.
>
> > Couldn't agree more. I'm sure we could have an interesting debate over
> > which Government interventions, by both parties, have caused the most
> > harm, but in general terms - absolutely!
>
> I agree also...the difference of course is that only Conservatives
> tell the unemployed they're lazy, uneducated and not worth much.

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