Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Re: Obama Threatens to Veto Republicans Spending Cuts

The White House said the cuts in the GOP plan "will undermine our
ability to
out-educate, out-build, and out-innovate the rest of the world."

Funny as hell..... none of these items has EVER been done by the
Feds....

On Feb 15, 10:29 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>     <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/author/scottystarnes/> Obama
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> Giving Americans more of their money goes against Obama's redistribution of
> wealth scheme.
>
> The Hill<http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/144285-obama-waves-v...>
>  reports:
>
> The Obama administration on Tuesday threatened to veto the House GOP's
> measure funding the federal government.
>
> In a statement of administration policy, the Office of Management and Budget
> said cuts included in the Republican continuing resolution would hamstring
> the U.S. economy and compromise national security.
>
> Obama and the Democrats spent over $3 trillion in two years and the economy
> is still in a recession and unemployment has been above 9% for 22 straight
> months. I believe spending money we don't have puts doubt in the economy,
> thus no job creation.
>
> "If the president is presented with a bill that undermines critical
> priorities or national security through funding levels or restrictions,
> contains earmarks or curtails the drivers of long-term economic growth and
> job creation while continuing to burden future generations with deficits,
> the president will veto the bill," the statement said.
>
> We have lost over 3.3 million jobs since Obama started spending.
>
> The White House said the cuts in the GOP plan "will undermine our ability to
> out-educate, out-build, and out-innovate the rest of the world."
>
> The government is the reason we can't out-educate, out-build or out-innovate
> the rest of the world. The unions, Obama's regulations and the high
> corporate tax rates is the reason our economy sucks and unemployment remains
> high.
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Re: Valentine’s Day marked with nationwide rallies, protests to call attention to marriage equality



On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
Not really Markie.

Some people are androgenous, transgendered, and the lines between the
two genders are ofthen blurred.

Most people posess some traits of BOTH genders.

Answer these questions please:

Why do males have nipples?
 
 

he answer is that as embryos men and women have similar tissues and body parts. If anything the embryo follows a 'female template'. That is why nipples are present in both sexes. It is the effect of the genes, the Y chromosome and the hormone testosterone that brings about the changes and masculinises the embryo. Testosterone promotes the growth of the penis and testicles. Because nipples are there before this process begins the nipples stay!

 
Why do some females have large penis- like clitorises?

see below 

Why do some humans and animals poses both male and female sex organs?

 People with intersex conditions sometimes choose to live exclusively as one sex or the other, using clothing, social cues, genital surgery, and hormone replacement therapy to blend into the sex they identify with more closely. Some people who are intersex, such as some of those with androgen insensitivity syndrome, outwardly appear completely female or male already, without realizing they are intersex. Other kinds of intersex conditions are identified immediately at birth because those with the condition have a sexual organ larger than a clitoris and smaller than a penis. Intersex is thought by some to be caused by unusual sex hormones; the unusual hormones may be caused by an atypical set of sex chromosomes.

Why do flowers and worms have both male and female sex organs?

It has NOTHING to do with higher animals. 

Why are the lines between the two gender extremes often blurred and
overlapping?

a natural/genetic mistake. 

Did you choose to be heterosexual?

Yes, it is my personal preference. 


On 2/16/11, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are only TWO genders. Beyond that there are preferences.
>
> On Feb 15, 2:50 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> No.
>>
>> No. That depends upon your respective genders and the state in which
>> you reside.
>>
>> Same answer as previous.
>>
>> Yes, but why would one want to if one loved someone of the same gender
>> and wanted to marry that person?
>>
>> Your baited questions are both offensive and childish.
>>
>> On 2/15/11, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Tommy,
>>
>> > I and every Gay person have exactly the same rights now. Yes or No ??
>>
>> > I do or don't have the right to marry my best friend and have him
>> > inherit my
>> > wealth, come to my deathbed or file a joint tax return ??
>>
>> > And a gay man ??
>>
>> > We both have a right to marry any woman of our choice for whatever
>> > reason??
>> > yes or No??
>>
>> > Answer the questions AS POSED.
>>
>> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> Please repeat the question. I did not see it.
>>
>> >> On 2/15/11, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > So exactly when are you going to answer my question, Tommy ???
>>
>> >> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:54 PM, dick thompson
>> >> > <rhomp2...@earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Look at Alexander the Great and Roxanne.
>>
>> >> >> And stop trying to ride on the coattails of people that you do not
>> >> >> know
>> >> >> were gay or not.
>>
>> >> >> On 02/15/2011 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> Wrong again, Keithie. Way, way wrong. You are so misguided and
>> >> >>> blinded
>> >> >>> by your homophobia that you cannot see either straight or gay.
>>
>> >> >>> Marriage equality most certainly and absolutely does NOT "redefine
>> >> >>> marriage" as you and your fellow Reich wing homophobes keep
>> >> >>> shouting
>> >> >>> ad nauseum.
>> >> >>> Men have been marrying other Men and Women have been marrying other
>> >> >>> Women for THOUSANDS of years.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at Alexander The Great and Hephaesteon.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at th Ancient Greeks.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at Sappho and her lesbian wife.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at Michelangelo and his male lovers.
>>
>> >> >>> Etc. Etc. Etc.
>>
>> >> >>> Marriage is a basic human right and an individual personal choice
>> >> >>> we
>> >> >>> call upon the state and federal government to allow same-sex
>> >> >>> couples
>> >> >>> to enter into civil marriages with all the state and federal
>> >> >>> rights,
>> >> >>> responsibilities and protections that civil marriage provides
>>
>> >> >>> Get over it and learn the TRUTH.
>>
>> >> >>> Famous Homosexual Greek Couples
>>
>> >> >>> SOLON and PEISISTRATUS
>> >> >>> The law giver was the erastes of the future tyrant, presumably
>> >> >>> around
>> >> 590
>> >> >>> BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> PEISISTRATUS and CHARMUS [3]
>>
>> >> >>> CHARITON and MELANIPPUS
>> >> >>> The two lovers plotted against Phalaris around 560 BCE. They were
>> >> >>> discovered and tortured to divulge accomplices, but remained
>> >> >>> silent.
>> >> >>> The tyrant, impressed, set them free. Their valor and love were
>> >> >>> celebrated in a Delphic oracle:
>>
>> >> >>> Blessed were Chariton and Melanippus: They showed mortals the way
>> >> >>> to a
>> >> >>> friendship that was divine. [4]
>>
>> >> >>> Aristogeiton and Harmodius
>>
>> >> >>> THEOGNIS of MEGARA and CYRNUS
>> >> >>> The poet, thought to have lived in the sixth c. BCE, addressed many
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> his poems to his young beloved, using them to pass on his wisdom to
>> >> >>> the boy. [5]
>>
>> >> >>> POLYCRATES and SMERDIES
>> >> >>> The love of the tyrant of Samos for his Thracian favorite, some
>> >> >>> time
>> >> >>> between 535 and 515, was recorded by the poet Anacreon. [6]
>>
>> >> >>> ARISTOGEITON and HARMODIUS
>> >> >>> Heroic couple, later lionized by the Athenian democrats, whose 514
>> >> >>> BCE
>> >> >>> plot to assassinate Hippias in was credited with the overthrow of
>> >> >>> tyranny in Athens.
>>
>> >> >>> PARMENIDES of ELEA and ZENO of ELEA
>> >> >>> According to Plato, Zeno was "tall and fair to look upon" and was
>> >> >>> "in
>> >> >>> the days of his youth . . . reported to have been beloved by
>> >> >>> Parmenides." [7] This would have occurred around 475 BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> HIERO I of SYRACUSE and DAELOCHUS
>> >> >>> Hiero, tyrant of Syracuse surrounded himself with pederastic
>> >> >>> intellectuals and had a number of lovers. [8]
>>
>> >> >>> PHIDIAS and AGORACRITUS
>> >> >>> The youth, both beloved and student of the sculptor, is also known
>> >> >>> for
>> >> >>> his sculpture of Nemesis at Rhamnus. [9]
>>
>> >> >>> PHIDIAS and PANTARKES
>> >> >>> Pantarkes, was an Elian youth and winner of the boys' wrestling
>> >> >>> match
>> >> >>> at the 86th Olympics in 436 BCE. He modeled for one of the figures
>> >> >>> sculpted in the throne of the Olympian Zeus, [10] and Phidias, to
>> >> >>> honor him, carved "Kalos Pantarkes" into the god's little finger.
>> >> >>> [11][12]
>>
>> >> >>> Socrates and Alcibiades
>> >> >>> SOCRATES and ALCIBIADES
>> >> >>> Each is said to have saved the life of the other in battle, and the
>> >> >>> relationship, which took place around 435-430 was said to have been
>> >> >>> chaste.
>>
>> >> >>> CRITIAS and EUTHYDEMOS
>> >> >>> A relationship mocked by Socrates for the brutish physicality of
>> >> >>> Critias' desire.
>>
>> >> >>> XENOPHON and CLINIAS
>> >> >>> Of his eromenos, Xenophon said, "Now I look upon Clinias with more
>> >> >>> pleasure than upon all the other beautiful things which are to be
>> >> >>> seen
>> >> >>> among men; and I would rather be blind as to all the rest of the
>> >> >>> world, than as to Clinias. And I am annoyed even with night and
>> >> >>> with
>> >> >>> sleep, because then I do not see him; but I am very grateful to the
>> >> >>> sun and to daylight, because they show Clinias to me." [13]
>>
>> >> >>> CALLIAS III and AUTOLYCUS
>> >> >>> The relationship between the two, in 421 BCE, is touched upon in
>> >> >>> Xenophon's Symposium, where Callias entertains both the boy and the
>> >> >>> father. [14]
>>
>> >> >>> THEMISTOCLES and STESILAUS of CEOS
>> >> >>> Around 420 BCE Themistocles competed for the boy's love with
>> >> >>> Aristides. As Plutarch recounts, "... they were rivals for the
>> >> >>> affection of the beautiful Stesilaus of Ceos, and were passionate
>> >> >>> beyond all moderation." [15]
>>
>> >> >>> PYTHEAS and TEISIS
>> >> >>> Pytheas, who was also the guardian of the youth, appointed to that
>> >> >>> position by Teisis' father in his will, is held up as being an
>> >> >>> unwise
>> >> >>> erastes, concerned with impressing his eromenos and as a result
>> >> >>> giving
>> >> >>> him bad advice. [16]
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHEDEMUS and ALCIBIADES II
>> >> >>> In his childhood, Alcibiades II, son of the famous general by the
>> >> >>> same
>> >> >>> name, was notorious for frequenting the house of his erastes,
>> >> >>> drinking, and reclining with him under a single cloak in sight of
>> >> >>> all.
>> >> >>> [17]
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHEBIADES and ALCIBIADES II
>> >> >>> After the death of the older Alcibiades, his old associate and
>> >> >>> co-defendent in the desecration of the Eleusinian mysteries, became
>> >> >>> the erastes of his son, then in his early teens, ransoming him from
>> >> >>> imprisonment, a ransom the boy's father had refused to pay, out of
>> >> >>> disgust with his own son. [18]
>>
>> >> >>> LYSANDER and AGESILAUS II
>> >> >>> Lysander had been the eispnelas of Agesilaus and was instrumental
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> the latter's rise to kingship, only to be spurned by him once he
>> >> >>> rose
>> >> >>> to power in 399BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHIDAMUS and CLEONYMUS
>> >> >>> Archidamus, son of Agesilaus II, is described by Xenophon to have
>> >> >>> been
>> >> >>> in love with the handsome son of Sphodrias. The boy asked his
>> >> >>> eispnelas to intervene with the king in favor of his father in a
>> >> >>> life
>> >> >>> and death legal matter, promising that Archidamus would never be
>> >> >>> ashamed to have befriended him. That proved to be so, as he was the
>> >> >>> first Spartan to die at the battle of Leuctra. [19]
>>
>> >> >>> Hadrian  Antinous
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHELAUS I of MACEDON and CRATERUS (or Crateuas)
>> >> >>> The king of Macedon was assassinated in 399 BCE by this eromenos,
>> >> >>> upon
>> >> >>> reneging on a promise to give the boy his daughter in marriage.
>> >> >>> [20]
>>
>> >> >>> AGESILAUS II and MEGABATES
>> >> >>> By taking on the Perisan boy as beloved, the king of Sparta was
>> >> >>> following Spartan law.
>>
>> >> >>> EPAMINONDAS and ASOPICHOS
>> >> >>> A couple famed for their military prowess, such as in their victory
>> >> >>> at
>> >> >>> Leuctra in 371 BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> DEMOSTHENES and CNOSION
>> >> >>> After the orator took in his young beloved, his wife is said to
>> >> >>> have
>> >> >>> bedded the boy in a fit of jealousy, [21] though Aeschines claims
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>> it was Demosthenes who put his own wife in bed with the youth so as
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> get children by him. [22]
>>
>> >> >>> DEMOSTHENES and ARISTARCHUS
>> >> >>> Much of what is known about this relationship comes from the
>> >> >>> speeches
>> >> >>> of Demosthenes' enemy, Aeschines. He accuses Demosthenes of having
>> >> >>> been such a bad erastes to Aristarchus so as not even to deserve
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> name. Among his alleged crimes are his complicity in Aristarchus'
>> >> >>> murder of Nicodemus of Aphidna, whose eyes and tongue were gouged
>> >> >>> out.
>> >> >>> This murder took place while the youth was under Demosthenes'
>> >> >>> tutelage. [23] Another misdeed of Demosthenes, the one allegedly
>> >> >>> disqualifying him from calling himself an erastes, is his pillaging
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> Aristarchus' estate. He is alleged to have pretended being in love
>> >> >>> with the youth so as to get his hands on the boy's inheritance,
>> >> >>> which
>> >> >>> he is said to have squandered and from which he is said to have
>> >> >>> taken
>> >> >>> three talents upon Aristarchus' fleeing into exile so as to avoid a
>> >> >>> trial. [24]
>>
>> >> >>> DEMOSTHENES and ARISTION
>> >> >>> Again, according to Aeschines, Demosthenes had the handsome youth
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> his house, engaged in unspeakable behavior: There is a certain
>> >> >>> Aristion, a Plataean..., who as a youth was oustandingly
>> >> >>> good-looking
>> >> >>> and lived for a long time in Demosthenes' house. Allegations about
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> part he was playing ('undergoing or doing what') there vary, and it
>> >> >>> would be most unseemly for me to talk about it. [25]
>>
>> >> >>> PHILIP II of MACEDON and PAUSANIAS
>> >> >>> In 336 BCE Pausanias killed Philip out of jealousy over another
>> >> >>> lover.
>>
>> ...
>>
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Re: From Democracy For America: Speaker Boehner: Wrong Answer

I would go further.....I would set up but one new governmental agency,  (and man it with members from the private market)  which is a placement agency and an attempt to find these worthless tax leaches a real job.
 
I would then go to eliminating the every single job from the Department of Transportation, (which builds no roadsm and oversees no transport); the Department of Energy,  (which again, oversees nothing at remotely related to energy)  the Department of Education,  (most of these folks should be put on trial for child molestation, after they are fired)  most all of Homeland Security;  and I haven't even scratched the surface.  
 
Neither has Representative Boehmer.
 
This post is but one example, and just shows how out of sync Tom is with America, and with working Americans. 

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:15 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
BB47,

I absolutely agree with you. People that think that adding government
jobs adds to the economy are just stupid. Every time a government
employee is added to the rolls it nullifies the taxes of countless
people. Say a government employee makes 100k per year.... it takes the
combined tax payments of about 100 average joe citizens paying 10k
each solely in federal withholding to support that job. There are over
3,000,000 Federal employees........ do the simple math.

If a federal job has to be eliminated.... then so be it... hell, get
rid of 2/3 of them. They really don't DO or PRODUCE .....ANYTHING.

On Feb 16, 9:52 am, BB47 <mde...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> On Feb 16, 6:11 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >    Yup, that's right. If the Republican budget cuts cost Americans their
> >    jobs, the Republican response is "so be it."
>
> Government jobs are not real jobs.  They don't make money, they only
> cost money.
>
> >    Join me in calling on Democrats to fight for a progressive budget that has
> >    no cuts to vital programs,
>
> Do you mind if I pass on that?
>
> >invests in jobs, and makes the rich and
> >    corporations pay their fair share.
>
> Define "fair"?
>
> >    2) INVEST IN JOBS
>
> Just how would you do that?

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Re: Valentine’s Day marked with nationwide rallies, protests to call attention to marriage equality

<Grin>!! 

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:22 PM, GregfromBoston <greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
You call me a homophobe in the very midst of my championing gay
rights, and get offended (again) by a simple fuck you?

Try this, "Fuck you asshole, and grow a pair"

If you can sing, castradi are beyond value.

Dick

On Feb 15, 3:01 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Watch your foul potty mouth language, Greg.
>
> You sound just like Bricie.
>
> On 2/15/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Then, Greg, your church is as misguided and homophobic as you are.
> > -----------------------------
>
> > Yes, that homophobia explains my overwhelming support for getting rid
> > of DADT and DOMA.
>
> > Oh, and fuck you.
>
> > On Feb 15, 1:23 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Then, Greg, your church is as misguided and homophobic as you are.
>
> >> Don't play follow the Fundies, this is not a Theocracy.
>
> >> Civil Marriage is distinct and separate from Religious Marriage.
> >> As long as the government makes laws about civil marriage, all people
> >> must be included in those laws equally regardless of gender. Anything
> >> less is discriminatory and unconstitutional.
>
> >> Churches are then free to bless those civil marriages or not as they
> >> choose. There are many Progressive churches that will.
>
> >> On 2/15/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > My church defines marriage and I abide by that, and I don't give a
> >> > rats ass if the state thinks I'm married or not.  It was Clinton who
> >> > defined it.  If ya don't like the word marriage, fine, call it
> >> > something else, but you should be able to file taxes jointly if, by
> >> > whatever term you like, 2 people are in a legal contract as spouses,
> >> > and have federal spousal benefits available to them like anyone else.
>
> >> > There's a guy named Dean Hara here.  He was married to a scumbag gay
> >> > congressman named Gerry Studds, in Massachusetts.  Gerry died, and Mr
> >> > Hara was given a big Fuck You by the fed when he applied for spousal
> >> > benefits.
>
> >> > Hara lives in Barney Frank's district, and Barney has done jack.
>
> >> > Yea, the big democrat support for gay marriage is a load of shit.
> >> > Guess which party went apeshit when the Mass court made Gay marriage
> >> > legal here?
>
> >> > Da Dems.
>
> >> > "I support gay marriage, and am working hard to ensure that everyone
> >> > that works in my government doesn't"
>
> >> > On Feb 15, 12:54 pm, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Greg,
>
> >> >> Why are you opposed to a small little clause, which has defined the
> >> >> term,
> >> >> "marriage"  for centuries, actually millenia?   Why the push for a
> >> >> redefinition of marriage?  That is the same as wanting to redefine
> >> >> perspiration, or murder, of fart, or asshole.
>
> >> >> There is simply no need, especially to grant a small minority of
> >> >> people,
> >> >> "special rights".
>
> >> >> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:49 PM, GregfromBoston
> >> >> <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> >> >> > STOP DEFENDING DOMA, MR PRESIDENT!
>
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Jack Daniels Explains The Deficit

Brasscheck TV/RealEcon TV 2/16/2011 The title says it all...and this video explains the entire deficit situation in less than two minutes flat. Why can't our "news" networks do this? From our friends at Real Econ TV.

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Re: Obama Threatens to Veto Republicans Spending Cuts

Apparently he means to veto the cuts after the DEM senate passes them.

Duh!

On Feb 15, 11:29 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Giving Americans more of their money goes against Obama's redistribution of
> wealth scheme.
>
> The Hill<http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/144285-obama-waves-v...>
>  reports:
>
> The Obama administration on Tuesday threatened to veto the House GOP's
> measure funding the federal government.
>
> In a statement of administration policy, the Office of Management and Budget
> said cuts included in the Republican continuing resolution would hamstring
> the U.S. economy and compromise national security.
>
> Obama and the Democrats spent over $3 trillion in two years and the economy
> is still in a recession and unemployment has been above 9% for 22 straight
> months. I believe spending money we don't have puts doubt in the economy,
> thus no job creation.
>
> "If the president is presented with a bill that undermines critical
> priorities or national security through funding levels or restrictions,
> contains earmarks or curtails the drivers of long-term economic growth and
> job creation while continuing to burden future generations with deficits,
> the president will veto the bill," the statement said.
>
> We have lost over 3.3 million jobs since Obama started spending.
>
> The White House said the cuts in the GOP plan "will undermine our ability to
> out-educate, out-build, and out-innovate the rest of the world."
>
> The government is the reason we can't out-educate, out-build or out-innovate
> the rest of the world. The unions, Obama's regulations and the high
> corporate tax rates is the reason our economy sucks and unemployment remains
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Re: Valentine’s Day marked with nationwide rallies, protests to call attention to marriage equality

Not really Markie.

Some people are androgenous, transgendered, and the lines between the
two genders are ofthen blurred.

Most people posess some traits of BOTH genders.

Answer these questions please:

Why do males have nipples?

Why do some females have large penis- like clitorises?

Why do some humans and animals poses both male and female sex organs?

Why do flowers and worms have both male and female sex organs?

Why are the lines between the two gender extremes often blurred and
overlapping?

Did you choose to be heterosexual?


On 2/16/11, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are only TWO genders. Beyond that there are preferences.
>
> On Feb 15, 2:50 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> No.
>>
>> No. That depends upon your respective genders and the state in which
>> you reside.
>>
>> Same answer as previous.
>>
>> Yes, but why would one want to if one loved someone of the same gender
>> and wanted to marry that person?
>>
>> Your baited questions are both offensive and childish.
>>
>> On 2/15/11, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Tommy,
>>
>> > I and every Gay person have exactly the same rights now. Yes or No ??
>>
>> > I do or don't have the right to marry my best friend and have him
>> > inherit my
>> > wealth, come to my deathbed or file a joint tax return ??
>>
>> > And a gay man ??
>>
>> > We both have a right to marry any woman of our choice for whatever
>> > reason??
>> > yes or No??
>>
>> > Answer the questions AS POSED.
>>
>> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> Please repeat the question. I did not see it.
>>
>> >> On 2/15/11, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > So exactly when are you going to answer my question, Tommy ???
>>
>> >> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:54 PM, dick thompson
>> >> > <rhomp2...@earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Look at Alexander the Great and Roxanne.
>>
>> >> >> And stop trying to ride on the coattails of people that you do not
>> >> >> know
>> >> >> were gay or not.
>>
>> >> >> On 02/15/2011 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> Wrong again, Keithie. Way, way wrong. You are so misguided and
>> >> >>> blinded
>> >> >>> by your homophobia that you cannot see either straight or gay.
>>
>> >> >>> Marriage equality most certainly and absolutely does NOT "redefine
>> >> >>> marriage" as you and your fellow Reich wing homophobes keep
>> >> >>> shouting
>> >> >>> ad nauseum.
>> >> >>> Men have been marrying other Men and Women have been marrying other
>> >> >>> Women for THOUSANDS of years.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at Alexander The Great and Hephaesteon.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at th Ancient Greeks.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at Sappho and her lesbian wife.
>>
>> >> >>> Look at Michelangelo and his male lovers.
>>
>> >> >>> Etc. Etc. Etc.
>>
>> >> >>> Marriage is a basic human right and an individual personal choice
>> >> >>> we
>> >> >>> call upon the state and federal government to allow same-sex
>> >> >>> couples
>> >> >>> to enter into civil marriages with all the state and federal
>> >> >>> rights,
>> >> >>> responsibilities and protections that civil marriage provides
>>
>> >> >>> Get over it and learn the TRUTH.
>>
>> >> >>> Famous Homosexual Greek Couples
>>
>> >> >>> SOLON and PEISISTRATUS
>> >> >>> The law giver was the erastes of the future tyrant, presumably
>> >> >>> around
>> >> 590
>> >> >>> BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> PEISISTRATUS and CHARMUS [3]
>>
>> >> >>> CHARITON and MELANIPPUS
>> >> >>> The two lovers plotted against Phalaris around 560 BCE. They were
>> >> >>> discovered and tortured to divulge accomplices, but remained
>> >> >>> silent.
>> >> >>> The tyrant, impressed, set them free. Their valor and love were
>> >> >>> celebrated in a Delphic oracle:
>>
>> >> >>> Blessed were Chariton and Melanippus: They showed mortals the way
>> >> >>> to a
>> >> >>> friendship that was divine. [4]
>>
>> >> >>> Aristogeiton and Harmodius
>>
>> >> >>> THEOGNIS of MEGARA and CYRNUS
>> >> >>> The poet, thought to have lived in the sixth c. BCE, addressed many
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> his poems to his young beloved, using them to pass on his wisdom to
>> >> >>> the boy. [5]
>>
>> >> >>> POLYCRATES and SMERDIES
>> >> >>> The love of the tyrant of Samos for his Thracian favorite, some
>> >> >>> time
>> >> >>> between 535 and 515, was recorded by the poet Anacreon. [6]
>>
>> >> >>> ARISTOGEITON and HARMODIUS
>> >> >>> Heroic couple, later lionized by the Athenian democrats, whose 514
>> >> >>> BCE
>> >> >>> plot to assassinate Hippias in was credited with the overthrow of
>> >> >>> tyranny in Athens.
>>
>> >> >>> PARMENIDES of ELEA and ZENO of ELEA
>> >> >>> According to Plato, Zeno was "tall and fair to look upon" and was
>> >> >>> "in
>> >> >>> the days of his youth . . . reported to have been beloved by
>> >> >>> Parmenides." [7] This would have occurred around 475 BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> HIERO I of SYRACUSE and DAELOCHUS
>> >> >>> Hiero, tyrant of Syracuse surrounded himself with pederastic
>> >> >>> intellectuals and had a number of lovers. [8]
>>
>> >> >>> PHIDIAS and AGORACRITUS
>> >> >>> The youth, both beloved and student of the sculptor, is also known
>> >> >>> for
>> >> >>> his sculpture of Nemesis at Rhamnus. [9]
>>
>> >> >>> PHIDIAS and PANTARKES
>> >> >>> Pantarkes, was an Elian youth and winner of the boys' wrestling
>> >> >>> match
>> >> >>> at the 86th Olympics in 436 BCE. He modeled for one of the figures
>> >> >>> sculpted in the throne of the Olympian Zeus, [10] and Phidias, to
>> >> >>> honor him, carved "Kalos Pantarkes" into the god's little finger.
>> >> >>> [11][12]
>>
>> >> >>> Socrates and Alcibiades
>> >> >>> SOCRATES and ALCIBIADES
>> >> >>> Each is said to have saved the life of the other in battle, and the
>> >> >>> relationship, which took place around 435-430 was said to have been
>> >> >>> chaste.
>>
>> >> >>> CRITIAS and EUTHYDEMOS
>> >> >>> A relationship mocked by Socrates for the brutish physicality of
>> >> >>> Critias' desire.
>>
>> >> >>> XENOPHON and CLINIAS
>> >> >>> Of his eromenos, Xenophon said, "Now I look upon Clinias with more
>> >> >>> pleasure than upon all the other beautiful things which are to be
>> >> >>> seen
>> >> >>> among men; and I would rather be blind as to all the rest of the
>> >> >>> world, than as to Clinias. And I am annoyed even with night and
>> >> >>> with
>> >> >>> sleep, because then I do not see him; but I am very grateful to the
>> >> >>> sun and to daylight, because they show Clinias to me." [13]
>>
>> >> >>> CALLIAS III and AUTOLYCUS
>> >> >>> The relationship between the two, in 421 BCE, is touched upon in
>> >> >>> Xenophon's Symposium, where Callias entertains both the boy and the
>> >> >>> father. [14]
>>
>> >> >>> THEMISTOCLES and STESILAUS of CEOS
>> >> >>> Around 420 BCE Themistocles competed for the boy's love with
>> >> >>> Aristides. As Plutarch recounts, "... they were rivals for the
>> >> >>> affection of the beautiful Stesilaus of Ceos, and were passionate
>> >> >>> beyond all moderation." [15]
>>
>> >> >>> PYTHEAS and TEISIS
>> >> >>> Pytheas, who was also the guardian of the youth, appointed to that
>> >> >>> position by Teisis' father in his will, is held up as being an
>> >> >>> unwise
>> >> >>> erastes, concerned with impressing his eromenos and as a result
>> >> >>> giving
>> >> >>> him bad advice. [16]
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHEDEMUS and ALCIBIADES II
>> >> >>> In his childhood, Alcibiades II, son of the famous general by the
>> >> >>> same
>> >> >>> name, was notorious for frequenting the house of his erastes,
>> >> >>> drinking, and reclining with him under a single cloak in sight of
>> >> >>> all.
>> >> >>> [17]
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHEBIADES and ALCIBIADES II
>> >> >>> After the death of the older Alcibiades, his old associate and
>> >> >>> co-defendent in the desecration of the Eleusinian mysteries, became
>> >> >>> the erastes of his son, then in his early teens, ransoming him from
>> >> >>> imprisonment, a ransom the boy's father had refused to pay, out of
>> >> >>> disgust with his own son. [18]
>>
>> >> >>> LYSANDER and AGESILAUS II
>> >> >>> Lysander had been the eispnelas of Agesilaus and was instrumental
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> the latter's rise to kingship, only to be spurned by him once he
>> >> >>> rose
>> >> >>> to power in 399BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHIDAMUS and CLEONYMUS
>> >> >>> Archidamus, son of Agesilaus II, is described by Xenophon to have
>> >> >>> been
>> >> >>> in love with the handsome son of Sphodrias. The boy asked his
>> >> >>> eispnelas to intervene with the king in favor of his father in a
>> >> >>> life
>> >> >>> and death legal matter, promising that Archidamus would never be
>> >> >>> ashamed to have befriended him. That proved to be so, as he was the
>> >> >>> first Spartan to die at the battle of Leuctra. [19]
>>
>> >> >>> Hadrian Antinous
>>
>> >> >>> ARCHELAUS I of MACEDON and CRATERUS (or Crateuas)
>> >> >>> The king of Macedon was assassinated in 399 BCE by this eromenos,
>> >> >>> upon
>> >> >>> reneging on a promise to give the boy his daughter in marriage.
>> >> >>> [20]
>>
>> >> >>> AGESILAUS II and MEGABATES
>> >> >>> By taking on the Perisan boy as beloved, the king of Sparta was
>> >> >>> following Spartan law.
>>
>> >> >>> EPAMINONDAS and ASOPICHOS
>> >> >>> A couple famed for their military prowess, such as in their victory
>> >> >>> at
>> >> >>> Leuctra in 371 BCE.
>>
>> >> >>> DEMOSTHENES and CNOSION
>> >> >>> After the orator took in his young beloved, his wife is said to
>> >> >>> have
>> >> >>> bedded the boy in a fit of jealousy, [21] though Aeschines claims
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>> it was Demosthenes who put his own wife in bed with the youth so as
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> get children by him. [22]
>>
>> >> >>> DEMOSTHENES and ARISTARCHUS
>> >> >>> Much of what is known about this relationship comes from the
>> >> >>> speeches
>> >> >>> of Demosthenes' enemy, Aeschines. He accuses Demosthenes of having
>> >> >>> been such a bad erastes to Aristarchus so as not even to deserve
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> name. Among his alleged crimes are his complicity in Aristarchus'
>> >> >>> murder of Nicodemus of Aphidna, whose eyes and tongue were gouged
>> >> >>> out.
>> >> >>> This murder took place while the youth was under Demosthenes'
>> >> >>> tutelage. [23] Another misdeed of Demosthenes, the one allegedly
>> >> >>> disqualifying him from calling himself an erastes, is his pillaging
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> Aristarchus' estate. He is alleged to have pretended being in love
>> >> >>> with the youth so as to get his hands on the boy's inheritance,
>> >> >>> which
>> >> >>> he is said to have squandered and from which he is said to have
>> >> >>> taken
>> >> >>> three talents upon Aristarchus' fleeing into exile so as to avoid a
>> >> >>> trial. [24]
>>
>> >> >>> DEMOSTHENES and ARISTION
>> >> >>> Again, according to Aeschines, Demosthenes had the handsome youth
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> his house, engaged in unspeakable behavior: There is a certain
>> >> >>> Aristion, a Plataean..., who as a youth was oustandingly
>> >> >>> good-looking
>> >> >>> and lived for a long time in Demosthenes' house. Allegations about
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> part he was playing ('undergoing or doing what') there vary, and it
>> >> >>> would be most unseemly for me to talk about it. [25]
>>
>> >> >>> PHILIP II of MACEDON and PAUSANIAS
>> >> >>> In 336 BCE Pausanias killed Philip out of jealousy over another
>> >> >>> lover.
>>
>> ...
>>
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Re: Bear Quintuplets

Nor would I.  lol

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com> wrote:

There is some great information at that site.  The biologist running the research center (Dr. Lynn Rogers) walks (and talks) with the bears.  Growing up in western Pennsylvania, our property bordered the woods.  Behind the outhouse there was an alley and lining the alley were elderberry bushes.  I remember seeing a black bear sow and her cubs foraging there (they love elderberries!) and not once did I ever feel the urge to "walk with the bears".  LOL

 

CW

 

From: politicalforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:politicalforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Travis
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 07:00
To: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bear Quintuplets

 

Glad you enjoyed this and thanks for the link too.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Travis.  I have been following Lily the Black Bear <fascinating>up in Minnesota for over a year now.  Lily gave birth to two cubs on a webcam (in the wild) back in January.  More at:  http://www.bear.org/livecams/lily-hope-cam.html

 

CW

 

From: politicalforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:politicalforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Travis
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:17
Subject: Bear Quintuplets

 

 

 


 

 

BEAR Quintuplets....once in a lifetime Photo


Black bears typically have two cubs; rarely, one or three. In 2007, in

northern New Hampshire , a black bear sow gave birth to five healthy

young.  There were two or three reports of sows with as many as four

cubs, but five was, and is, very extraordinary.  The photographer

learned of them shortly after they emerged from their den and set

a goal of photographing all five cubs with their mom - no matter how

much time and effort was involved.  He knew the trail they followed

on a fairly regular basis, usually shortly before dark.  After spending

nearly four hours a day, seven days a week, for more than six weeks,

he had that once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and photographed them. 

He used the equivalent of a very fast film speed on his digital camera. 

The print is properly focused and well exposed, with all six bears posing

as if they were in a studio for a family portrait.  
 
The photographer stayed in touch with other people who saw the bears

during the summer and into the fall hunting season.  All six bears continued to thrive.  As time for hibernation approached, he found still more folks who had seen them, and everything remained OK.  The photographer stayed  away from the bears because he was concerned that they might become habituated to him, or to people in general, and treat them as approachable  friends.  This could easily become dangerous for both man and animal.

After Halloween, no further reports and could only hope the bears survived until they hibernated.  This spring, just before the snow disappeared, all six bears came out of their den and wandered all over the same familiar territory they trekked in the spring of 2007.

The photographer saw them before mid-April and dreamed nightly of

taking another family portrait, a highly improbable second once-in-a-lifetime photograph.

On 25 April 2008, he achieved his dream. 
 

When something as magical as this happens between man and animal, Native Americans say, "We have walked together in the shadow of a rainbow."  And so it is with humility and great pleasure that I share these exhilarating photos with you.

Do PASS THEM ON!!!

 

 

 

 

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Re: What a Republican Majority Has Not Meant

Had ALL of the Republicans in the House OR the Senate voted NAY OR had
the President Vetoed ... guess what ... it would NOT have passed.
------------------------------------

All but ONE of the senate dems voted for it, and renewed it FOUR
friggin times - including current POTUS and SecState (psst, they're
democrats. Said current POTUS not only did not veto the last one,
he's pushing FOR this one!

You think Bush would veto Patriot?

You look ridiculous!

NINETY-EIGHT TO ONE, and republicans did it? Its the single most bi-
partisan support we've seen in 100 years!

Wipe the drool off your chin.

On Feb 15, 2:21 pm, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it OK if I jump in here and say you are both correct?  If the
> Republicans were to follow thru on their supposed conservative ideals,
> then the Patriot Act would not have passed. That they did not does
> support this editorial. However, as GfB points out, the vote was
> pretty much unanimous, so blame must be equally shared. My
> interpretation of the editorial was to point out what the Republicans
> did NOT do, such as trimming waste and fraud, cut spending, eliminate
> legislation, etc. To that extent, I agreed with it, even as it applies
> to passing the Patriot Act. However, you can not lay the blame for the
> Patriot Act solely at the feet of the Republicans.. as they say, it
> takes two to dance - or pass bad legislation.
>
> BTW, is it only me or is it troubling to anyone else to read this and
> think fondly of the good old days, kind of like how great it was when
> gas was *only* $2.50/gal?
>
> "...the federal budget (over $2 trillion) and the federal deficit
> (over $500 billion) are the highest ever, the national debt is over $7
> trillion (and increasing an average of $2 billion per day)..."
>
> On Feb 15, 1:25 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > At 01:22 PM 2/15/2011, you wrote:A Republican Majority in the Senate and a Republican Majority in the
> > House and a Republican in the White House gave us the Patriot Act. Who
> > is it you imagine to be responsible for giving us the Patriot Act?
> > ----------------------------------
> > When something passes 98 to fucking 1, it doesn't matter if Martians
> > were the majority party.
> > Anything to try and EXCUSE and APOLOGIZE for the Republicans.
> > Had ALL of the Republicans in the House OR the Senate voted NAY OR had the President Vetoed ... guess what ... it would NOT have passed.
> > It is patently obvious that the Republicans gave us the Patriot Act just as Vance noted.
> > No wonder you prefer to spew fallacy.
> > Regard$,
> > --MJI was brought up as a Republican.  But when I realized that at the end of the day there wasn't much difference between a Democrat and Republican, I became a Libertarian. -- Kurt Russell- Hide quoted text -
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