Sunday, August 21, 2011

Re: Ron Paul 2012 Website Under Cyberattack

Keith, It is not Ron Paul the person. I believe it is the message that concerns them. God Bless You

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
Good afternoon Leroy!
 
I think those at the Federal Reserve feel indomitable, and probably don't consider Ron Paul all that much of a threat.
 
I would think that there is more concern from candidates who are truly viable, electable candidates, and who have also started calling for at a minimum, an audit of the Federal Reserve, or an outrght end to the Federal Reserve.  This includes just about all of the Republicans, and I will give credit where credit is due,  they can all thank Ron Paul for such a shift in policy.
 


 
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM, lbiglee75 <leroys501@gmail.com> wrote:
Keith, do you think for a minute that the owners of the Federal Reserve wants Ron Paul's message heard.


On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe Ron Paul's  web site broke? I have seen several of my web sites have "issues" and I wasn't cyberattacked.....
 
Have you ever noticed how Ron Paul supporters,  (and Ron Paul himself?)  always claim that there are folks out to get him?  If its not that he is being ignored, then it is that he is being attacked.....Everyone's out to get Ron, even his own political Party?
 
Paranoid?  Me thinks just a little!

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
Leftist desperation?

Ron Paul 2012 Website Under Cyberattack


Dear JOHN,

We thought it was bad when the media tried to ignore us to keep our message under wraps.  But it just got worse.

Earlier this evening, a cyberattack was launched on our website – shutting us down and robbing us of the last few hours of our money bomb.

Boy, the establishment is more desperate than I thought. They don't even want our message to get out ON OUR OWN WEBSITE now!

We will not be silenced, and our money bomb will not be deterred.


Before the attack, we were VERY close to our $1.5 million goal - now we're at $1.49 million and counting.

We're still working on restoring full functionality to the online store, but the rest of our website is back up and running.

And because of the time we lost toward reaching our goal, I'm announcing now that we'll be leaving the ticker up until Noon pacific tomorrow and extending the Ron Paul Birthday Money Bomb!

To further show the establishment that we're more determined than ever to win this race, we're also extending the goal to $1.75 million!
 
If you are having trouble donating, please try again tomorrow.  Let me assure you that your data is safe.

If you already donated, thank you. And perhaps you'll wake up inspired to donate for Ron Paul 2012 one more time.


Our message will not be stopped. Our Revolution is gaining ground every day.

Thank you for your patience, and I hope you'll help us reach this new goal for the Ron Paul Birthday Money Bomb!


For Liberty,



John Tate
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Is the Fed Treasonous?


Is the Fed Treasonous?
by Thomas J. DiLorenzo

The neoconservative talking heads recently took a short time out from praising, deifying, and anointing Texas Governor Rick Perry as the next president of the United States to chastise him for criticizing the Fed. In particular, he was taken to the neocon woodshed for saying that the printing of trillions of dollars of paper currency was harmful to the economy and, since we are in a depression, such an act was "almost treasonous."

Governor Perry could not have been referring to the actual definition of treason that is contained in Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, which reads as follows:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. (emphasis added).

The only Americans who were ever guilty of treason under this definition would have been Abraham Lincoln, his cabinet, the "Civil War" Congress, the Union Army command, and all army volunteers from the Northern states during the War to Prevent Southern Independence. Waging war against the Southern states was the very definition of treason under the U.S. Constitution.

Lincoln rhetorically redefined treason to essentially mean criticism of himself and his government. This has always been the preferred definition of treason by American statists, beginning with Daniel Webster, who attempted to redefine it as such in his famous debate over the nature of the union with Senator Robert Hayne of South Carolina. Lincoln simply adopted Webster's subterfuge while subverting the Constitution with his war.

So where does the Fed fit in here? Was Governor Perry totally off base when he said the Fed's irresponsible and reckless behavior is "almost treasonous." The Fed is not "treasonous" according to the actual definition of treason in the Constitution. But what the Fed is guilty of is being the financial handmaiden of the subversion of constitutional government in America ever since its founding in 1913. It has helped to finance all of America's unconstitutional wars and other "military adventures," for example, beginning with the Korean War. Congress no longer declares war, as required by the Constitution, and then disguises the costs of war with debt and with money creation by the Fed. Without the Fed, there would have been fewer unconstitutional wars over the past 60 years, and the wars that did occur would have been shorter.

World War I was a nightmare for civil liberties in America, with governmental goons literally imprisoning people for such "crimes" as reading the Bill of Rights in public. The Fed financed about one fourth of that war, and is therefore partly responsible for such atrocities. The same is true for World War II and all the other wars, including the most recent ones, where state power was used to trample on the civil liberties of American citizens (as always, in the name of "preserving" those same liberties for us).

World War I also introduced socialistic central planning to America with the government policy of "war socialism," which included the nationalization of numerous industries and the dictating of prices and production quotas in many others. All price controls are a violation of the contract clause of the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits laws that abridge legal contracts, such as those between buyers and sellers or employers and employees. The contract clause, and much of the rest of the Constitution, was simply ignored during the World War I years and in the succeeding decades, especially during the Roosevelt administration. The Fed was instrumental in making this possible by financing such interventions.

In his book, Takings, legal scholar Richard Epstein made the argument that both the New Deal and "Great Society" programs were all unconstitutional under the actual constitution despite the fact that generations of lawyers have created case law that essentially rewrites the document as being a toothless inhibitor of governmental powers. All of these government programs have been partly financed by the Fed.

The original Constitution listed a very few enumerated powers of the federal government in Article 1, Section 8. All other powers were reserved for the people and the states under the Tenth Amendment, which Thomas Jefferson considered to be the cornerstone of the entire document. The creation of the Fed in 1913, along with the federal income tax in that same year, was one of the final nails in the coffin of the Jeffersonian constitution. Armed with the ability to engage in legalized counterfeiting, virtually all political power became centralized in Washington, D.C. All states became effective franchises of the central government who could easily be bribed or bullied into submission with federal grants or the threat of their withdrawal.

Thanks to the Fed, American presidents can behave like world dictators, ordering the dropping of bombs anywhere and everywhere on a whim without any consent by Congress or anyone else. Thanks to the Fed, the majority of Americans are on some kind of governmental dole and are therefore neutered as opponents of the never-ending growth of government. They do not really have free speech rights, in other words. The same is true of all corporations that receive government subsidies. Or even if they do not, government has become so powerful that it can use its oppressive regulatory powers to ruin any business person who dares to speak up against the government too effectively. Thus, the Fed may not be responsible for "levying war" against the states, the definition of treason that is in the Constitution, but it has played a crucial role in the destruction of the system of federalism or states' rights that was established by the American founders. Perhaps Governor Perry can do a better job of articulating this point the next time he attempts to steal Congressman Ron Paul's thunder on the campaign trail.

http://lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo212.html

Barack Obama is flooding the Bible Belt with uneducated, uncivilized Somali Muslims




Barack Obama is flooding the Bible Belt with uneducated, uncivilized Somali Muslims

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Re: Joke

Wonder if the liberal idiots in this audience know they were
being manipulated by a lazy, paranoid , liberal leech ?

On Aug 21, 12:32 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I love Hockey's uniform!  I would also like for Hockey to be a little more
> specific with who is being "exploited" and "oppressed",  but like all
> communists, there are never any specifics.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Stephen Stink <not4ud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > God....that Korean Animation was just hideous! Here is one better....
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGVKkHPQBjc
> > You don't learn about socialism from some right wing idiot.
> > You learn it from a real communist!
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 Website Under Cyberattack

Good afternoon Leroy!
 
I think those at the Federal Reserve feel indomitable, and probably don't consider Ron Paul all that much of a threat.
 
I would think that there is more concern from candidates who are truly viable, electable candidates, and who have also started calling for at a minimum, an audit of the Federal Reserve, or an outrght end to the Federal Reserve.  This includes just about all of the Republicans, and I will give credit where credit is due,  they can all thank Ron Paul for such a shift in policy.
 


 
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM, lbiglee75 <leroys501@gmail.com> wrote:
Keith, do you think for a minute that the owners of the Federal Reserve wants Ron Paul's message heard.


On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe Ron Paul's  web site broke? I have seen several of my web sites have "issues" and I wasn't cyberattacked.....
 
Have you ever noticed how Ron Paul supporters,  (and Ron Paul himself?)  always claim that there are folks out to get him?  If its not that he is being ignored, then it is that he is being attacked.....Everyone's out to get Ron, even his own political Party?
 
Paranoid?  Me thinks just a little!

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
Leftist desperation?

Ron Paul 2012 Website Under Cyberattack


Dear JOHN,

We thought it was bad when the media tried to ignore us to keep our message under wraps.  But it just got worse.

Earlier this evening, a cyberattack was launched on our website – shutting us down and robbing us of the last few hours of our money bomb.

Boy, the establishment is more desperate than I thought. They don't even want our message to get out ON OUR OWN WEBSITE now!

We will not be silenced, and our money bomb will not be deterred.


Before the attack, we were VERY close to our $1.5 million goal - now we're at $1.49 million and counting.

We're still working on restoring full functionality to the online store, but the rest of our website is back up and running.

And because of the time we lost toward reaching our goal, I'm announcing now that we'll be leaving the ticker up until Noon pacific tomorrow and extending the Ron Paul Birthday Money Bomb!

To further show the establishment that we're more determined than ever to win this race, we're also extending the goal to $1.75 million!
 
If you are having trouble donating, please try again tomorrow.  Let me assure you that your data is safe.

If you already donated, thank you. And perhaps you'll wake up inspired to donate for Ron Paul 2012 one more time.


Our message will not be stopped. Our Revolution is gaining ground every day.

Thank you for your patience, and I hope you'll help us reach this new goal for the Ron Paul Birthday Money Bomb!


For Liberty,



John Tate
Campaign Manager
===========================================
 
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 Website Under Cyberattack

Keith, do you think for a minute that the owners of the Federal Reserve wants Ron Paul's message heard.

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe Ron Paul's  web site broke? I have seen several of my web sites have "issues" and I wasn't cyberattacked.....
 
Have you ever noticed how Ron Paul supporters,  (and Ron Paul himself?)  always claim that there are folks out to get him?  If its not that he is being ignored, then it is that he is being attacked.....Everyone's out to get Ron, even his own political Party?
 
Paranoid?  Me thinks just a little!

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
Leftist desperation?

Ron Paul 2012 Website Under Cyberattack


Dear JOHN,

We thought it was bad when the media tried to ignore us to keep our message under wraps.  But it just got worse.

Earlier this evening, a cyberattack was launched on our website – shutting us down and robbing us of the last few hours of our money bomb.

Boy, the establishment is more desperate than I thought. They don't even want our message to get out ON OUR OWN WEBSITE now!

We will not be silenced, and our money bomb will not be deterred.


Before the attack, we were VERY close to our $1.5 million goal - now we're at $1.49 million and counting.

We're still working on restoring full functionality to the online store, but the rest of our website is back up and running.

And because of the time we lost toward reaching our goal, I'm announcing now that we'll be leaving the ticker up until Noon pacific tomorrow and extending the Ron Paul Birthday Money Bomb!

To further show the establishment that we're more determined than ever to win this race, we're also extending the goal to $1.75 million!
 
If you are having trouble donating, please try again tomorrow.  Let me assure you that your data is safe.

If you already donated, thank you. And perhaps you'll wake up inspired to donate for Ron Paul 2012 one more time.


Our message will not be stopped. Our Revolution is gaining ground every day.

Thank you for your patience, and I hope you'll help us reach this new goal for the Ron Paul Birthday Money Bomb!


For Liberty,



John Tate
Campaign Manager
===========================================
 
Please visit the ultimate resource for defending liberty.

CLICK HERE:
 
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This is the Most Extensive Collection of Freedom Videos Ever Compiled:
My email is:   
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Are you looking for a book about defending liberty?
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Look here:
 
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Please Watch these videos: 
REAL EYE OPENERS. DOWN LOAD THEM NOW BEFORE THEY DISAPPEAR.
 
Invisible Empire - full version NWO video An absolutely amazing expose' of the power brokers of the world: No criminal tyrant left behind.
 
 
 
 

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Re: Joke

I love Hockey's uniform!  I would also like for Hockey to be a little more specific with who is being "exploited" and "oppressed",  but like all communists, there are never any specifics. 

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Stephen Stink <not4udude@yahoo.com> wrote:
God....that Korean Animation was just hideous! Here is one better....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGVKkHPQBjc
You don't learn about socialism from some right wing idiot.
You learn it from a real communist!

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Re: Joke

God....that Korean Animation was just hideous! Here is one better....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGVKkHPQBjc
You don't learn about socialism from some right wing idiot.
You learn it from a real communist!

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