Wednesday, September 7, 2011

Re: Bachmann on Dictators and Socialized Medicine

In a recent speech I heard RP say that the US government is
warmongering.
There's no need to surgar coat it ... interventionism leads to
warmongering.
The USA is not the world police or a charity organization.

The current interventionist policy our leaders in DC have adopted was
penned by Paul Wolfowitz in the Defense Planning Guidance.
"Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new
rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or
elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by
the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new
regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any
hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under
consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power."

It's a failed policy driven by fear.

In July 2008 Joe Klein wrote in TIME magazine that today's
neoconservatives are more interested in confronting enemies than in
cultivating friends. He questioned the sincerity of neoconservative
interest in exporting democracy and freedom, saying, "Neoconservatism
in foreign policy is best described as unilateral bellicosity cloaked
in the utopian rhetoric of freedom and democracy."

Why is American foreign policy and military intervention focused
almost solely on the middle east when countries on its own doorstep
which provide it with vast amounts of oil are being allowed to drift
out of American control?


On Sep 7, 9:32 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Whoops!
>
> Ron Paul's Controversial Statement Exposes Foreign Policy Rift*By* *Tim
> Danie* <http://www.americanthinker.com/tim_daniel/>l
>
> http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/05/ron_pauls_controversial_statem...
>
> Tea party favorite and libertarian stalwart Congressman Ron Paul
> fanned<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54822.html>the flames
> of controversy last week, stating to WHO radio's Simon Conway
> that he in fact would not have ordered the Osama bin Laden kill, preferring,
> rather, an arrest and civilian-court trial for the 9-11 mastermind. Paul's
> statement was met with full-throated
> derision<http://rightwingnews.com/war-on-terrorism/moron-paul-says-we-shouldnt...>in
> GOP circlesas the "crazy uncle in the attic" became all-the-crazier
> with his simple
> admission.
>
> Pulling the curtain away from the issue, did Ron Paul simply expose a giant
> chasm between two foreign policy trains of thought in the conservative
> movement?
>
> I'm not as anti-war as Ron Paul and neither are most conservatives. For
> instance, the Congressman's stance against waterboarding Gitmo detainees
> will never be viable in mainstream Republican opinion. His shocking
> statement on the bin Laden kill mission's legality is another. Regardless,
> strains of Paul's foreign policy libertarianism are being discussed in
> circles that up until recently might not have been.
>
> On radical Islam, many conservatives find themselves in-between
> libertarians<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBsQFjAA&url=http...>and
> strong defense, Goldwater
> conservatives<http://www.amazon.com/Conscience-Conservative-Barry-Goldwater/dp/0895...>:
> those who want a strong defense yet find themselves leery of the "any war,
> any time, anywhere<http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/you-ve-come-long-way-baby_555622....>"
> neo-conservative credo that has dominated recent American foreign policy.
>
> More and more conservatives today favor a formal congressional declaration
> of war (as required by Article One, Section Eight of the
> Constitution<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http...>)
> and are also overwhelmingly leery of the perpetual nation-building limbo
> that the missions in Afghanistan and Iraq have become. A telling moment
> exemplifying this theme took place when Obama's recent engagement in Libya
> found more opposition on the conservative side than the anti-war left. Some
> of the reaction was partisan, certainly, but fatigue with myriad wars --
> sans discernible timetables -- is palpable in pro-defense circles.
>
> Libertarian-leaning conservatives often find themselves closer to Ayn Rand's
> views of a strong military and defense guided by American exceptionalism and
> rational, effective self-defense. Rand offered no tolerance for anti-war
> libertarians, unendearlingly calling
> them<http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,125000,00.html>the
> "hippies of the right," but that doesn't mean that a coming together
> of
> the two sides is a non-starter in confronting the excess of the Pentagon's
> sub-trillion-dollar budget.
>
> For instance, departments in the Pentagon overlap, often serving no higher
> purpose than oversight of lower tier departments. Calling for the
> elimination of this kind of redundancy is immediately palatable. Another
> option is found in eliminating the practice of departmental spending based
> on the previous year's allocated budget. Many departments engage in a mad
> rush at the end of the budget year in order to match spending numbers and
> avoid cutbacks. Departments and managers should be rewarded for saving
> taxpayer dollars, not the opposite. Confronting this largess is also
> immediately achievable.
>
> Freshly minted Kentucky Senator Rand Paul also notes the unnecessary cost of
> myriad Cold-War-era military bases across the world. U.S. garrisons in
> wealthy nations over sixty years after the resolution of World War II, the
> senator from Kentucky argues, are simply unnecessary and unaffordable. A
> rational discussion on closing these bases could find much-needed common
> ground.
>
> The most important approach -- or whole enchilada, if you will -- is
> policy-driven and philosophical. As our nation teeters on the edge of the
> bankruptcy, we can no longer afford the decades-past vision of government
> both domestic and military. Instituting reliable withdrawal timetables for
> both Iraq and Afghanistan -- withdrawal that serves both the respective
> missions in those theaters of war as well as the blood, sweat, and tears of
> the troops that served there* *-- would signal a monumental start in setting
> boundaries for our government. Beyond these steps, nothing short of a
> complete reevaluation of the mission and purpose of the United States
> military is needed today.
>
> Because the Republican chasm on spending does not stop at the doorstep of
> foreign policy, many of the Herculean decisions before us will be all the
> more difficult. All of the top-tier GOP presidential candidates in the 2012
> race have big-government skeletons in their respective closets. Candidates
> like former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, former House Speaker Newt
> Gingrich, former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, and former Utah Governor
> and Chinese Ambassador Huntsman do not hold consistent views or track
> records on the proper, limited role of government. The two
> libertarian-conservative<http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2011/05/gary-johnson-vs-ron-paul-res...>candidates
> in the field are
> the only ones that hold such a distinction both domestically and in the
> realm of foreign affairs.
>
> Given the dire financial position that this nation finds itself in and the
> tough leadership and consistent Reagan-esque vision required to confront it,
> trustworthiness on the issue of cutting government spending is vital. A
> rethinking of our nation's foreign policy and overall role of government --
> or in the least, spirited discussion -- may just reconcile the divide taking
> place among fiscal conservatives, defense hawks, social conservatives and
> libertarians that find their home in the GOP.
>
> Our financial future and status as a free nation depends upon the success of
> the discussion.
>
> *A resident of California and small business owner, Tim Daniel blogs daily
> at **leftcoastrebel.com* <http://www.leftcoastrebel.com/>*.*
>
> .

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    --- On Wed, 7/9/11, madiha mubasher <silverscreen_88@yahoo.com> wrote:

    From: madiha mubasher <silverscreen_88@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Real Face of qadianis
    To: "joinpakistan@googlegroups.com" <joinpakistan@googlegroups.com>
    Cc: "haji_gulahmed2005@yahoo.com" <haji_gulahmed2005@yahoo.com>
    Date: Wednesday, 7 September, 2011, 21:29

    Assalam-o-Alaikum to all!

    Rashid sb aap nay kaha k 1974 main jaamate ahmadiya ko gher muslim qarar dea gaya tu janab ye b aik Hazrat Muhammad (SAWW) ki peshgoi thee jo Allah nay ap logo k hatho say puri karwaie Hazarat Muhammad (SAWW) nay apni hadees Mubarak main farmaya "k aik waqt meri ummat pay aisa aye ga k meri ummat yahaudiyu say mushabihat rakhi ge aisay jaisay aik jota dosray jotay say mushabihat rakhta hai yahudiyu k 72 firqay thay or  meri ummat 73 firqo main bat jaye ge siwae aik k baqi sb nari(jahanumi) hoon gay or un 73 main say 72 aik taraf or aik jammat aik taraf ho ge or wo 72 k 72 nari hoon gay or wo aik jammat jo ho ge sirf wo najat panay walo main say ho ge tu is par Sahaba Karam (R.A) nay arz kea ya Rasullaha hum us jammat ko kaisay pehchan paye gay tu Ap (SAWW) nay farmaya us jammat par wo tamam takleef aye ge jaisay is zamany main musalmano pay aye or wo jammat meray or meray sahaba karam k tareeq pay chalnay wali ho ge"
    Tu janab jb 1974 main conference hoe jis main ye faisla hona tha k jammat-e-ahmadiya muslim hai k non muslim tu us main ap logo nay khud 72 firqo k upar stamp laga kar kah dea k ye muslim hain or sirf aik jammat ko 73 main say alag kar k us pay stamp laga d k ye muslim nai bal k kafir hain or wo jammat jamat-e-ahmadiya thee tu yaha Hazrat Muhammad (SAWW) ki peshgoi lafz ba lafz puri hoe k 72 firqay aik taraf hoon gay or 1 aik taraf or wo 72 k 72 nari hoon gay or sirf wo aik naji yani nijat panay walo main say ho ga. Or is hadees main dosri bat jo ap (SAWW) nay famaie k wo firqa ya jammat wo ho ge jin ko wo tmam takleefien bardasht krni paray ge jo mjy pr meray sahaba karam ko is zamany main bardasht krni pari tu janab aj ap dekh lien k wo tmam takaleef kis ko bardasht krni par rahe hain us zamany main musalmano k namaz, azan, kalma, tilawat-e-quaran,tabligh or hajj krnay pay pabandi laga d gae thee or aj wohe sb kuch kis k sath ho raha sirf jamat-e-ahmadiya k sath hamari azano pay pabandi hai namazo par pabandi hai hum hajj nai kar sktay kalma nai parh sktay tabligh nai kar sktay tu yaha b ye peshgoi hum par he puri hoti hai.

    or dosri baat 1974 main jo conference hoe thee wo tu aik jang thee ap logo k nazdeek islam ki tu pir kyu us conference ki video aj tak ksi media pay nai dekhai gae kyu us pay pabandi laga d gaye kyu nai us conference main jo sawalat or bahas hoe thee kyu nai aj tak wo ksi news paper main publish hoe kyu usay chupaya jata hai ap logo nay kbi ye nai socha kbi ap logo main say ksi nay b us confernce ki video js main ahmadiya community ko kafir qarar dea gaya dekhi hai kbi ksi media k channel pay dekhai gaye hai kyu Govt nay us pay pabandi laga d agr ap wo video dekh lien gay tu khud sach jhote ap k samnay ajaye ga k kaya sach hai or kaya jhote agr hamari jamat jhoti hoti tu kbi wo video na chupai jati bal k sar-e-aam chalai jati sb ko dekhai jati itni bari islam ki jang thee usay kyu awam say chupaya gea?
    or gul sb ap nay pocha k hum log kyu ulma say manazra nai krtay ya challenge kyu nai krtay tu is ka jawab main ap ko da dun k hum par government ki taraf say pabandi laga d gae hai hum par ordinance jari kea huwa hai jo k General Zia-ul-haq k dor main lagaya gea hai k hum ksi kisam ka koi manazra ya tabligh nai kar sktay ap un hum par pabandi laga d gaye hai or na hum koi swal jawab nai da sktay hain agr ap log chahtay hain k hum b medan main aye or manazra karein tu Goverment of Pakistan say mutalba karien k wo is ordnance ko khatam karien or hamay b medan main utrnay ki ijazat dien akhir unhay is jammat say kis bat ka dar hai jo hum par pabandi laga d hai shayad is bat k agr ye jammat medan main utar aye ge tu jeet isi ki ho ge or log b isi ki traf khinchay aye gay ap log mutalba karein InshaAllah Jammat-e-Ahmadiya ka har fard manazra or challenge karay gay or har sawal ka jawab day ga hum sirf is hakim-e-waqt ki itaat ki waja say chup hain kyu k Khuda tala ka irshad hai k "Meri or Meary Rasool(SAWW) ki itaat karo or jo tum par hakam-e-waqt ho us k hukam ki pabandi karo" is bat ka gwah Khuda hai k haqm-e-waqt nay hum par zulm kea hamaray sath nainsafi ki or hum par pabandi laga d lakin ap log pir b kbi is jammat ko aisa nai dekhien gay k is nay Khuda or us k Rasool (SAWW) k ksi b hukam ko rad kea ho or ye video hai jo main ap ko dekhana chahti hoon jis main Hamaray jammat k head nay khula khula mubahilay ka challenge kea tha ulma or General Zia-ul-haq ko par afsoos un buzdil logo nay isay qabool na kiya kyu? ye ap log khud smj sktay hain


     




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    From: Haji gul ahmed <haji_gulahmed2005@yahoo.com>
    To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 1:53 PM
    Subject: Fw: Re: FW: **JP** Real Face of qadianis

    Mohtara Madiha Mubasher sahiba,

    agar aap (ahmadi) appny aaqiday main sahih hain tu phir ....anjuman khatam nabuwat ky ulma say manazra kion nahin karty.....aur sach ko sach sabit kion nahin karty....... aur app logon ny 1972 sy ab tak "ahmedi is non muslim" ky qanoon ko challenge kion nahin kia????..... usy ghalat sabit kion nahin kar saky..... khatam nabuwat walon ny app ky khalifa tak ko challange kia howa hai ....tu wo pakistan aa kar is ka jawab kion nahin deta....... ?????????????

    --- On Mon, 9/5/11, Abdul Wahid Osman Belal <awobelal@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    From: Abdul Wahid Osman Belal <awobelal@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: FW: **JP** Real Face of qadianis
    To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
    Cc: "Rashid Ahmed" <rashidahmed@jeraisy.com>
    Date: Monday, September 5, 2011, 6:06 PM

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    The Qadianis are disbelievers, outside the fold of Islam and were instigated by British Imperialists in 19th century India. They hold that Ghulam Ahmad Mirza was a prophet
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    --- On Sun, 4/9/11, Rashid Ahmed <rashidahmed@jeraisy.com> wrote:

    From: Rashid Ahmed <rashidahmed@jeraisy.com>
    Subject: FW: **JP** Real Face of Amir Liaquat
    To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
    Date: Sunday, 4 September, 2011, 17:21

    Mohtara Madiha Mubasher aap ne kitni safaye se apni community ka zikar kr diya jaise koi kuch janta hi nhi on k bare me aap ki itla k liye arz hy k April 1974 me tamam Islamic countries aap logoon ko kharij us islam kr chuki hy es liye aap es kism ki emails send kr k logoon ko gumrah na karein or shaheed ka matlub aap ko pata hona chahiye k shaheed word sirf musalman k liye use kia jata hy na k non muslim k liye.
    So please es kism k email send krne se gurez karein.
    Rashid
    Saudi Arabia
     

    On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:29 PM, hafeez rehman <hrehman11@gmail.com> wrote:
    Dear
    Its a fake video, you know now a days Graphic designer can changed voice like Dubbing, also can changed face on another person activities. Dr, Aamir liaquat left Geo because of its policies like pro india & against  Nazaria Pakistan. Geo also support Qadianies. So Geo management is behind this fake videos.
    Hafeez
    On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Maria Shaban <maria_gail4u@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
    Assalam-o-alaikum
     
    Check out the real face of Amir Liaquat Hussain (off-camera scenes) and watch his Tv shows.... what a hyporicy. He is hosting islamic shows, such as "Alim Online", "Sehar with Amir" etc. but off the screen he uses worst abusive language.
     
     
    He is basically Ahl-e-Tashi but pretends as a Sunni Alim.
     
    Farhan
     
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