Friday, July 15, 2011

Lower the Debt Ceiling

"Lowering the debt ceiling would force federal-government budget cutting on a large scale, and this would free up resources (labor, land, and capital) and force a cutback in the federal government's regulatory apparatus. This would put Americans back to work producing consumer-valued goods."

Lower the Debt Ceiling
Friday, July 15, 2011
by Mark Thornton

[An MP3 audio file of this article, narrated by the author, is available for download.]

Currently, the big show in Washington, DC, centers around raising the debt ceiling. Congress began setting this ceiling in 1917 so that the Treasury could independently issue debt. Download PDF The debt ceiling is like the limit on your credit card, except the federal government sets the limit on itself. When President Nixon took us off the gold standard in 1971, the national debt was $400 billion. The increase in the national debt last year alone was four times the entire debt in 1971.

Both Democrats and Republicans tell us that not raising the debt ceiling would have a negative -- even catastrophic -- effect on the American and world economies. They are in agreement on this. The only matter of debate is what concessions are necessary in order to establish a bipartisan majority to pass a bill raising the ceiling. Democrats seem to want larger cuts and tax increases, while Republicans want smaller cuts with no tax increases. The multitrillion-dollar cuts that they are discussing only occur over a ten-year time frame and do not balance the budget, so no one except Ron Paul is really discussing the kinds of budget cutting that would actually help the economy.

What we really need to do is to lower the debt ceiling. If Congress passed legislation that systematically reduced the debt ceiling over time, the economy could be rebuilt on a solid foundation. Entrepreneurs in the productive sectors would realize that an ever-increasing proportion of resources (land, labor, and capital) would be at their disposal, while companies that capitalized on the federal budget would have an ever-declining share of such resources.

Congress would have to cut the pay and benefits of its employees ( FDR cut them by 25 percent in the depths of the Great Depression) as well as the number of such employees. Real wage rates would decline, allowing entrepreneurs to hire more employees to produce consumer-valued goods.

Congress would have to cut back on its far-flung regulatory operations, which are in fact one of the biggest drags on the economy due to the burden and uncertainty that Obama and Congress have created in terms of healthcare, financial-market, and environmental regulations. A recent study by the Phoenix Center found that even a small reduction of 5 percent, or $2.8 billion, in the federal regulatory budget would result in about $75 billion in increased private-sector GDP each year and the addition of 1.2 million jobs annually. Download PDF Eliminating the job of even a single regulator grows the American economy by $6.2 million and creates nearly 100 private-sector jobs annually.

Under a reduced debt ceiling, the federal government would also have to sell off some of its resources. It has tens of thousands of buildings that are no longer in use and tens of thousands of buildings that are significantly underused ­ about 75,000 buildings in total. It also controls over 400 million acres of land, or over 20 percent of all land outside of Alaska, which is almost wholly owned by the government. There is also the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and many other assets that could be sold off to cover short-term budget shortfalls.

Of course, reducing the debt ceiling would force the government to stop borrowing so much money from credit markets. This would leave significantly more credit available for the private sector. The shortage of capital is one of the most often cited reasons for the failure of the economy to recover.

Lowering the debt ceiling would force federal-government budget cutting on a large scale, and this would free up resources (labor, land, and capital) and force a cutback in the federal government's regulatory apparatus. This would put Americans back to work producing consumer-valued goods.

Passing an increase in the debt ceiling merely perpetuates the myth that there is any ceiling or control or limit on the government's ability to waste resources in the short run and its willingness to pass the burden of this squander onto future generations.


Mark Thornton is a senior resident fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute in Auburn, Alabama, and is the book review editor for the Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics. He is the author of The Economics of Prohibition, coauthor of Tariffs, Blockades, and Inflation: The Economics of the Civil War, and the editor of The Quotable Mises, The Bastiat Collection, and An Essay on Economic Theory.

http://mises.org/daily/5457/Lower-the-Debt-Ceiling

Fwd: [New post] SIGN IN FRONT OF A BUSINESS IN FLORIDA !



SIGN IN FRONT OF A BUSINESS IN FLORIDA !

How dare they...ohh, umm wait, My bad.

This sign was prominently displayed in front of a business in Florida and you are probably outraged at the thought of such an inflammatory sign.

However, we are a society which holds Freedom of Speech as perhaps one of our greatest liberties.
And after all, it is only a sign, right?

You may ask: "What kind of business would dare post such a sign?"

Wait For It.....

 

Keep Going. :D

 

 

C'mon stay with me.

 

Answer: A Funeral Home!
You gotta love it!!!
God Bless AMERICA
and keep our Troops Safe and Well

~Steve~      A Big H/T to my old pal Jean

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Re: **JP** Interesting fact about libya

Indeed ever countries in Muslim world has opposition inside and out side those countries they are power hunger and they betrayed with motherland but same time no matter how good those king families are they should give chance to others as well just like UK 
People should have freedom of speech and freedom of religion equality and justice and free education up to high school until then Muslim country will face destruction like Iraq and Libya and will continuo 
Aslam khan 
USA 

Khan

On Jul 13, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Haji gul ahmed <haji_gulahmed2005@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Sir
Aslam-o-alikum,
The the question is that; Why Liyban People protesting against Govt? is there some culprits in favour of US in Lybian public?????

hope you will reply me at earliest
thanks


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From: Qaiser Bashir <qbashir@jgroup.com.sa>
Subject: **JP** Interesting fact about libya
To: "Asghar Minhas" <asgr752@yahoo.co.nz>
Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 2:13 AM

 

 

 

 

As received..

 

 

*Did you know this about Libya?*

Some other facts (that mainstream media will never disclose) about Gaddafi and Libya



- Loans to Libyan citizens are given with NO interest.


- Students would get paid the average salary for the profession they are studying for.

- If you are unable to get employment the state would pay the full salary as if you were employed until you find employment.

- When you get married the couple gets an apartment or house for free from the Government.

- You could go to college anywhere in the world. The state pays 2,500 euros plus accommodation and car allowance.

- The cars are sold at factory cost.

- *Libya does not owe money, (not a cent) to anyone. No creditors.

- Free education and health care for all citizens.

- 25% of the population with a university degree.

- No beggars on the streets and nobody is homeless (until the recent bombing).

- Bread costs only $0.15 per loaf.

No wonder the US and other capitalist countries do not like Libya. Gaddafi would not consent to taking loans from IMF or World Bank at high interest rates. In other words Libya was INDEPENDENT! That is the real reason for the war in Libya! He may be a dictator, but that is not the US problem. Also Gaddafi called on all Oil producing countries NOT to accept payment for oil in USD or Euros. He recommended that oil get paid for in GOLD and that would have bankrupted just about every
Western Country as most of them do not have gold reserves to match the rate at which they print their useless currencies.

Remember the last time someone had the “NERVEâ€
to make a similar statement was when Saddam Hoosein advised all Opec countries not to accept payment for oil in US Dollars. Well, we all know what happened to him . Yes, they HUNG HIM.

 

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Our Dark Overlord Says You WANT Your Taxes Increased




Our Dark Overlord Says You WANT Your Taxes Increased

doctorbulldog | 15 July, 2011 at 10:45 am | Categories: politics | URL: http://wp.me/p1NPg-7fA

I don't know about you, but I don't recall wanting higher taxes!  I think the polls that Obama is abusing here are polls which indicated that about 80 percent of Americans would support a higher tax on the rich.

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Michele Bachmann's hubby is so gay!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep....Them barbarians must be disciplined! Jesssssssus! That what
Bachmann's hubby said! Whewwww!!!!! That is the most gay thing was
ever said! Holy crap! Obama is so re-elected! Tea Fags hate socialism
because they hate them selves! They beleive in socialized ignorance!
Don'tcha just love it?
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Re: **JP** I WOULD LIKE TO DRAW TTENSION MIRZA ACCEPTED AS TERRORIST IN MEDIAS??

Salam to you,
Dear friend. i am from shangla and ienthusiasticaly like to be a journalist.As i am master  please help me how i can be a journalist.thanks a lot.


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REFERING STTEMENT ZULFIQAR MIRZA  H/O SPEAKER NA ACCEPTED HIMSELF AS
A TERRORIST WITH KYARI-GANG IN MEDIAS .
HE ALSO TOLD MEDIAS THAT HE IS WITH LYARI GANG AND USE STRUGGLE WITH THEME AND HELP THEME ALWAYS.

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This is what passes for democracy in Greece… and America


This is what passes for democracy in Greece… and America
by Simon Black
July 14, 2011
Thessaloniki, Greece

Last night I had quite an unexpected surprise.

You see, at my hotel here in Thessaloniki, there's a delegation from some group of the European Parliament called the Committee on Regional Development. They're here to help… Hey, isn't that what they always say? The Committee wants to supervise Greece working its way out of the debt crisis and make sure that Greece's poor are getting the support they need.

The hotel's restaurant was filled with these sycophantic parasites last night– an entire room full of people with a superiority complex who think that they are entitled to make decisions about other people's lives and money.

They sat at dinner drinking fine wine and polishing up steak tartare making proud, bombastic proclamations about the virtues of foreign aid, the democratic process, and the great progress of Greece's austerity measures.

Coincidentally, not 300 meters down the road, a campsite has been gathering for economic refugees, Thessaloniki's former middle class that has been vanquished by the crisis. Some of the children swung by the restaurant's outdoor terrace begging for change, only to be waved off by one of the delegate's extended pinkie fingers as he sipped his wine.

It couldn't have been more ironic… the perfect image of what passes for democracy today, right here in the country that invented it.

Today's democracy is nothing more that pseudo-authoritarian rule by an elite few, executed by legions of self-deluding freeloaders who have convinced themselves that their current bureaucratic roles are both necessary and honorable… as well as a stepping stone into the next job which will be even more necessary and honorable.

With each successive position up the bureaucratic ladder comes more power, more privilege… until they actually expect to be called "The Honorable…" so and so, or "His Excellency" so and so, etc.

My dictionary suggests a few definitions for 'honor'. One of them refers to a person's chastity… and I doubt it applies in this case given the political establishment's Twitter record. The other definition says, "conferred as a distinction, especially an official award for bravery or achievement."

In the United States, they must be confusing the term 'achievement' with 'destroying the economy and culture of the formerly most powerful nation on earth.'  President Obama is apparently so honorable that he can't even be bothered to hold negotiations anymore about debt compromise, arguing that Ronald Reagan wouldn't be doing that…

He seems more concerned about his esteem and rank being respected than facing the grim facts of economic reality.

Simultaneous on Capitol Hill, Comrade Bernanke sent the dollar plummeting once again. Just to put things in perspective, the entire eurozone is on the precipice of a meltdown, and the euro had been falling for days. The second this man opened his mouth, the dollar plunged… indicating that investors would rather take a chance on European insolvency than Bernanke.

It was truly pathetic… and yet another example of what passes for democracy today: One man who has never been elected is essentially given control of the money supply to do with it as he deems best in his sole discretion.

All in all, as usual, it's going to come down to the taxpayers. The bureaucrats will go on enjoying their steak tartare and ignoring the huddled masses. The politicians will go on posturing over title. The central bankers will keep making interest free loans to their friends and destroying their currencies.  We get stuck with the fallout.

In the end, the governments will make it a matter of national security and patriotism, ensuring that we 'do our duty to the nation' by coughing up more of our livelihood. I stumbled across this WW2 propaganda video a few days ago in which Daffy Duck tells us all that it's our patriotic duty to give as much as possible to the government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqMVpcbhpqw&feature=player_embedded

Should we expect a new video soon suggesting that it's our patriotic duty to buy Treasury bonds…? In what passes for democracy today, you can bet on it.

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/this-is-what-passes-for-democracy

Taxation Is Still Robbery

"There are so many reasons why the government should not raise taxes or otherwise collect more revenue -- even if only from "the rich" -- it's not funny. The first reason is moral. As one my predecessors at The Freeman, Frank Chodorov, used to say: "Taxation is robbery." Chodorov winds up his article this way: "There cannot be a good tax nor a just one; every tax rests its case on compulsion." It is sad that most self-styled lovers of humanity embrace a money-raising system grounded in the threat of physical force -- violence -- against people who themselves have not used force. Our moral progress in many areas cannot be doubted, nevertheless overall it has been uneven."

The Goal Is Freedom
Taxation Is Still Robbery
Eliminate the deficit by terminating government missions.
Sheldon Richman
Posted July 15, 2011

Whether President Obama and congressional Republicans can work out a deal to let the government to borrow even more (!) money seems to hang on whether the latter will go for increased in tax revenues.

Following the zigzagging negotiations isn't easy. First the aim was a short-term deal. Then both sides decided to go for a big package: $4 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. That broke down when Obama said a quarter or a third of that amount should come from new revenues.

When I hear about ten-year budget deals, I first divide the aggregate number by ten so I see how little is at stake each year. I also want to know if the spending reduction is real or phony. Chris Edwards of the Cato Institute says most cuts are likely to be accounting tricks. We've seen this before -- with the budget deal just a few months ago.

I also remind myself that no Congress can bind a future Congress. Would you bet a substantial sum on a congressional promise to reduce the deficit over ten years? I didn't think so. Even if Obama is reelected, he wouldn't be in office for the last four years of the period.

Skepticism is justified. In the 1980s another deal was struck that supposedly would deliver $3 in spending cuts for every $1 in new revenue. Know what happened? That's right.


No Good Tax

There are so many reasons why the government should not raise taxes or otherwise collect more revenue -- even if only from "the rich" -- it's not funny. The first reason is moral. As one my predecessors at The Freeman, Frank Chodorov, used to say: "Taxation is robbery." Chodorov winds up his article this way: "There cannot be a good tax nor a just one; every tax rests its case on compulsion." It is sad that most self-styled lovers of humanity embrace a money-raising system grounded in the threat of physical force -- violence -- against people who themselves have not used force. Our moral progress in many areas cannot be doubted, nevertheless overall it has been uneven.

The presumption against taxes holds even in a corporatist economy, where fortunes are made through the political, as opposed to the economic, means. The way to end illicit gains through government intervention is to abolish the privileges. It makes no sense to continue the privileges and then tax away some of the proceeds. That merely compounds the power of government by giving it more discretion.

This argument also holds if the new revenues are to come from ending tax deductions and credits rather than raising or imposing new taxes. A plain vanilla tax system is bad enough; one that gives rulers the power to reward and punish the economic activities of their choice is worse. Yet selectively ending exemptions while leaving others in place is not true reform. Obama and the other would-be revenue raisers pretend they want to clean up the tax code by getting rid of "loopholes" but we know that's not true. If they were serious, they'd be targeting all such exemptions not just those that make for populist-sound bites. What about all that special tax treatment for "green" technologies that Obama favors?


Spending versus Not Taxing

In recent days politicians and commentators have repeatedly said there is no difference between government's spending money and abstaining from taxing some forms of income. But that could be true only if the government owned all income. Leaving money in someone's pocket -- even if it is done arbitrarily -- is not a form of spending, however manipulative it is. But it serves the rulers' interest to claim otherwise because it lets them say that to end an exemption is to cut spending.

Among other reasons for saying no to new taxes is that even if you think the government should have new revenues to deal with the debt, the politicians can't be trusted to use it that way. They are much more likely to find new ways to spend the money. It's happened many times before because that's the nature of the system. Politicians, like real people, respond to incentives.

Here's another reason: There aren't enough rich people to make a big difference.

Obama has often expressed his wish to raises taxes on couples making more than $250,000. But as Keith D. Williamson of National Review points out, there's not enough money in that group to fix the budget.

The 2012 deficit is forecast to hit $1.1 trillion under Obama's budget. (Thanks, Mr. President!) Spread that deficit over all the households in Club 250K and you have to jack up their taxes by an average of $500,000. Which you simply can't do, since a lot of them don't have $500,000 in income to seize: Most of them are making $250,000 to $450,000 and paying about half in taxes already.


Club 1

Okay, how about those making a million a year or more? That won't work either.

Only 0.2 percent of U.S. households have incomes that high, meaning that there's only about 200,000 of them. And like Club 250K, Club 1 is bottom-heavy: There are a lot more $1 million men than there are $6 million men. And there are a whole heck of a lot more $6 million men than there are $60 million men.
You want to tax Club 1 to get rid of the deficit, you have to hit each of those 200,000 households with an average tax hike -- not an average tax bill, but tax increase -- of $6 million. And a lot of those Club 1 households don't have $6 million in income to start with, much less $6 million left after the taxes they're already paying.

Let's face it, as Walter Williams notes, with government spending about $10 billion a day, even confiscating the incomes and wealth of the rich and the profits of the Fortune 500 just wouldn't get very far. It assumes, contrary to experience, that the rich will be stationary targets rather than find ways to shelter income, even moving it offshore. In the postwar period, federal revenues have remained remarkably steady as a percentage of GDP regardless of tax rates.

There's an unsettling message buried in all this. A big-spending government will have to stick it to the middle class. That's where the money is. But it won't fix the deficit. According to Williamson:

The Bush "tax cuts for the rich" cost the Treasury about $800 billion in forgone revenue; the Bush tax cuts for the middle class cost trillions -- 2.2 of them, to be precise.
Repealing all of those Bush tax cuts, for rich and middle class alike, gets you about $3 trillion -- over ten years. The deficit is running from a third to almost half that every year.

So the only way back away from the brink is to cut spending -- by eliminating missions wholesale. But politicians don't really want to cut spending. Hence, the problem.

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/tgif/taxation-is-still-robbery/

RE: **JP** Re: کيا آج کل کے حالات اس حديث کوثابت نہيں کرتے؟

 ji han .. aur bhi bohat si hadeesain hain jo aj k dor main sahi sabot ho rahi hain .. nach ganay se mutaliq bhi and qatal o gharat se bhi mutaliq bhi ... and logo k hawalay se bhi jo hadeesain aur Qurani ayatain hain wo bhi sahi sabit ho rahi hain k log andhay,gongay aur behray ho jain gay .. to yehi ho raha hai aj ... ek qatil ki khilaf bolnay per logo ne pura sheher jala dia ... ye andhay ,gongay aur behray nahi hain to aur kia hain .. Tauheen e risalat pe to aise roads per nahi aye thay ye ... ??
 
 
 
 
Muhammad Haris Haneef

 

Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:37:18 -0700
From: journalist.hasnain@yahoo.com
Subject: **JP** Re: کيا آج کل کے حالات اس حديث کوثابت نہيں کرتے؟
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--- On Thu, 14/7/11, Muhammad Shoaib Tanoli <shoaib.tanoli@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Muhammad Shoaib Tanoli <shoaib.tanoli@gmail.com>
Subject: کيا آج کل کے حالات اس حديث کوثابت نہيں کرتے؟
To:
Date: Thursday, 14 July, 2011, 11:25 AM




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صحیح بخاری:جلد سوم:حدیث نمبر 1941 حدیث مرفوع مکررات 43 متفق علیہ 34


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Re: Hey Travis! The Republitards want to cut your SS check off!

Hmmm, why is Bernie Saunders gathering up democrats and threatening
filibuster and reelection support if POTUS fucks with SS?

On Jul 12, 11:33 pm, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well, SS doesn't need to finance your time on the Internet anyway.
> ---
> Consequences of defaulting on the federal debt
>
> Congress has the duty to honor the debts of the United States by
> raising the federal debt ceiling under the "full faith and credit
> clause," Article IV, Section 1, of the U.S. Constitution, and Section
> 4 of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Not raising the
> federal debt ceiling will cause a default on the U.S. debt in
> violation of the U.S. Constitution.
>
> Has the U.S. ever defaulted on its debt? Well, in a technical sense
> yes, briefly and unintentionally when Congress waited to the last
> minute to act to raise the federal debt ceiling in 1979. Our present
> situation differs where Tea-Publicans are threatening not to raise the
> federal debt ceiling intentionally to put the nation's debt into
> default. That will shake the confidence of the international markets
> in the ability of the U.S. government to govern itself and to honor
> its debts.
>
> All lending agreements, whether between central banks of countries, or
> your mortgage or credit card agreement, have a "default" provision
> that automatically escalates the rate of interest to a default rate in
> the event of default. For many, this will affect your credit
> worthiness and make credit unavailable. The banks will "adjust" the
> interest on all credit agreements. Default will cost Americans
> hundreds of billions of dollars in additional interest and tax dollars
> to finance the interest on the federal debt over time.
>
> So when you hear the darlings of the Tea Party like Sen. Jim DeMint (R-
> SC) and Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) say they are going to vote
> against raising the federal debt ceiling because they "don't believe"
> anything bad is going to occur, just keep in mind that they are
> ignorant of history, ignorant of economic principles, ignorant of how
> the international monetary system works, and ignorant of how
> international markets work in the real world.
>
> Why would any sane person listen to what an ignorant fool has to say
> when all the experts in the field who do this for a living say it will
> result in a debt crisis and another recession?
>
> http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2011/07/consequences-of-defaulting...
> ---
> Not even mentioning all the checks government writes out to people
> like Travis, military personnel, pensioners, etc. etc. etcetera.

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Re: Fwd: [DailyKos] *? 2 ALL: FBI TARGETS MURDOCH - WHAT ARE YOUR COMMENTS?*

This has got to be some of the most stupidest shit I have ever read,  but I note that it comes from Moe,  via the Daily Kos.....Pretty much explains everything.
 


 
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Moe <coatesmoe@gmail.com> wrote:
The FBI had better be careful with what they do with Murdock. He owns
the GOP and is bankrolling Palin, Huckelby, Rove, Gingrich and a lot
of the other Tea Party leadership. Since America sold it´s freedom to
the corporate world the average Joe Voter takes a backseat on the
direction of the country. Of course the average American is not
interested in the deep reaching violations in the UK.

On Jul 14, 11:26 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  **
>
> [image:http://i.huffpost.com/gen/308280/thumbs/r-RUPERT-MURDOCH-PHONE-HACKIN...]
>
> *A law enforcement official said Thursday the FBI has opened an
> investigation into allegations that *
> *media mogul Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. sought to hack into the phones of
> Sept. 11 victims, .*
>
> *Hi Team!*
> **
> **? 2 ALL: *
> **
> *FBI TARGETS MURDOCH -*
> **
>  [image: 071411rupert.jpg]
> *(above): A demonstrator, wearing a mask depicting Rupert Murdoch,holding
> puppets depicting British Prime Minister David Cameron and British Culture
> minister Jeremy Hun. (AP/Lefteris Pitarakis) - gothamist.com*
> **
> Tom Hays reports:
>
> "The decision to investigate was made after U.S. Rep. Peter King and several
> other members of Congress wrote FBI Director Robert Mueller demanding an
> investigation, said the official, who spoke to The Associated Press on
> condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak publicly.
>
> "The official stressed that the probe was in its infancy but declined to
> discuss the scope of it or say whether any investigative steps had been
> taken.
>
> "News Corp., based in New York, has been in crisis mode because of a scandal
> that sank its U.K. newspaper the News of the World.
>
> [image:http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/sites/default/files/u188/murdoch.jpg]
>
> "A rival newspaper reported last week that the News of the World had hacked
> into the phone of U.K. teenage murder victim Milly Dowler in 2002 and may
> have impeded a police investigation into her disappearance.
>
> "More possible victims soon emerged: other child murder victims, 2005 London
> bombing victims, the families of dead soldiers and former Prime Minister
> Gordon Brown.
>
> "U.S. Department of Justice spokeswoman Laura Sweeney said Thursday that the
> department 'does not comment specifically on investigations, though anytime
> we see evidence of wrongdoing, we take appropriate action.'"
>
> [image: Rupert Murdoch Fbi]
>
> *FBI targets Murdoch - what are your comments?*
>  *Greg Dempsey
> **http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SECULARHUMANIST/*<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SECULARHUMANIST/>
> *Voice of the People*
> **
>
>   ===== Rupert Murdoch Under FBI Investigation: News Corp. Reportedly
> Targeted Over 9/11 Victims Hacking Scandal
>
> By TOM HAYS   07/14/11 04:00 PM ET   [image: AP] Associated Press
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/14/fbi-news-corp-investigation_...>
>
> <http://reddit.com/submit?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F20...>
> NEW YORK -- The FBI and U.S. attorney's office in New York declined comment.
> There was no immediate response to a phone message left for News Corp.
>
> King, a Republican, said Thursday afternoon he had not officially been
> contacted by the FBI and said he wanted to reserve comment until he hears
> from the agency.
>
> "If they do, I'd be gratified," he said in a brief telephone interview with
> the AP.
>
> On Thursday, Murdoch caved in to pressure from Britain's Parliament as he
> and his son James first refused, then agreed, to appear next week before
> lawmakers investigating phone hacking and bribery by employees of their
> newspaper empire.
>
> Murdoch began his media career in Australia in 1952 after inheriting The
> News newspaper after the death of his father, and he has built News Corp.
> into one of the world's biggest media groups. Assets include Fox News, the
> 20th Century Fox movie studio, The Wall Street Journal, the New York Post
> and three newspapers in Britain – down from four with the death of the News
> of the World.
>
> Also Thursday, Scotland Yard said it had made its seventh arrest related to
> the inquiry into phone hacking at the now-defunct tabloid, whose closure was
> a doomed effort to keep alive a bid for the highly profitable network
> British Sky Broadcasting. Police didn't disclose the name of the arrested
> man.
>
> ___
>
> Associated Press writer Frank Eltman contributed to this report.
>
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Re: Musharraf (Bush Jr.'s buddy in Pakistan) calls US aid suspension ‘disastrous’

Geez Studio,  you become more and more clueless each and every week.
 


 
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:15 AM, studio <tlack@hotmail.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON - Former president Pervez Musharraf has warned of dire
consequences from the recent US decision to suspend $800 million of
military aid to Pakistan, saying the move was not in the best interest
of the two countries.

"Certainly it will be disastrous," Musharraf said during a speech at
Rice University in Houston, Texas, on Monday evening, according to
media reports. "It is not in the best interest of Pakistan but also
not in the best interest of the United States. If Pakistan is weakened
how do we fight terrorism?"

http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/13-Jul-2011/Musharraf-calls-US-aid-suspension-disastrous
---
Strange there is no mention in this article of the President who
stopped sending money to Pakistan...
uh, that would be President Obama for those stupid enough to not know
any better.

Who's terrorism? Pakistan's or the U.S.'s?

The only thing Pakistan did was build atom bombs with the billion$$$
given them by Bush Jr. to point at India.
Pakistan could give a rats ass about fighting terrorism for the U.S.

Only Republitards believe Pakistan didn't know Bin Laden was 1 mile
from their main military base.
Only Republitards believe Pakistan is an ally.
Only Republitards would continue giving billion$$$ to Pakistan and
gloss over Pakistan throwing out U.S. military trainers, arresting
those that blew the whistle of the location of Bin Laden, and
indirectly paying for Pakistan's nuclear weapons programs.

Folks, they don't call them the stupid party for nothing.
They look for stupid to vote for stupid.

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Re: Fwd: [DailyKos] *? 2 ALL: FBI TARGETS MURDOCH - WHAT ARE YOUR COMMENTS?*

The FBI had better be careful with what they do with Murdock. He owns
the GOP and is bankrolling Palin, Huckelby, Rove, Gingrich and a lot
of the other Tea Party leadership. Since America sold it´s freedom to
the corporate world the average Joe Voter takes a backseat on the
direction of the country. Of course the average American is not
interested in the deep reaching violations in the UK.

On Jul 14, 11:26 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  **
>
> [image:http://i.huffpost.com/gen/308280/thumbs/r-RUPERT-MURDOCH-PHONE-HACKIN...]
>
> *A law enforcement official said Thursday the FBI has opened an
> investigation into allegations that *
> *media mogul Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. sought to hack into the phones of
> Sept. 11 victims, .*
>
> *Hi Team!*
> **
> **? 2 ALL: *
> **
> *FBI TARGETS MURDOCH -*
> **
>  [image: 071411rupert.jpg]
> *(above): A demonstrator, wearing a mask depicting Rupert Murdoch,holding
> puppets depicting British Prime Minister David Cameron and British Culture
> minister Jeremy Hun. (AP/Lefteris Pitarakis) - gothamist.com*
> **
> Tom Hays reports:
>
> "The decision to investigate was made after U.S. Rep. Peter King and several
> other members of Congress wrote FBI Director Robert Mueller demanding an
> investigation, said the official, who spoke to The Associated Press on
> condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak publicly.
>
> "The official stressed that the probe was in its infancy but declined to
> discuss the scope of it or say whether any investigative steps had been
> taken.
>
> "News Corp., based in New York, has been in crisis mode because of a scandal
> that sank its U.K. newspaper the News of the World.
>
> [image:http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/sites/default/files/u188/murdoch.jpg]
>
> "A rival newspaper reported last week that the News of the World had hacked
> into the phone of U.K. teenage murder victim Milly Dowler in 2002 and may
> have impeded a police investigation into her disappearance.
>
> "More possible victims soon emerged: other child murder victims, 2005 London
> bombing victims, the families of dead soldiers and former Prime Minister
> Gordon Brown.
>
> "U.S. Department of Justice spokeswoman Laura Sweeney said Thursday that the
> department 'does not comment specifically on investigations, though anytime
> we see evidence of wrongdoing, we take appropriate action.'"
>
> [image: Rupert Murdoch Fbi]
>
> *FBI targets Murdoch - what are your comments?*
>  *Greg Dempsey
> **http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SECULARHUMANIST/*<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SECULARHUMANIST/>
> *Voice of the People*
> **
>
>   ===== Rupert Murdoch Under FBI Investigation: News Corp. Reportedly
> Targeted Over 9/11 Victims Hacking Scandal
>
> By TOM HAYS   07/14/11 04:00 PM ET   [image: AP] Associated Press
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/14/fbi-news-corp-investigation_...>
>
> <http://reddit.com/submit?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F20...>
> NEW YORK -- The FBI and U.S. attorney's office in New York declined comment.
> There was no immediate response to a phone message left for News Corp.
>
> King, a Republican, said Thursday afternoon he had not officially been
> contacted by the FBI and said he wanted to reserve comment until he hears
> from the agency.
>
> "If they do, I'd be gratified," he said in a brief telephone interview with
> the AP.
>
> On Thursday, Murdoch caved in to pressure from Britain's Parliament as he
> and his son James first refused, then agreed, to appear next week before
> lawmakers investigating phone hacking and bribery by employees of their
> newspaper empire.
>
> Murdoch began his media career in Australia in 1952 after inheriting The
> News newspaper after the death of his father, and he has built News Corp.
> into one of the world's biggest media groups. Assets include Fox News, the
> 20th Century Fox movie studio, The Wall Street Journal, the New York Post
> and three newspapers in Britain – down from four with the death of the News
> of the World.
>
> Also Thursday, Scotland Yard said it had made its seventh arrest related to
> the inquiry into phone hacking at the now-defunct tabloid, whose closure was
> a doomed effort to keep alive a bid for the highly profitable network
> British Sky Broadcasting. Police didn't disclose the name of the arrested
> man.
>
> ___
>
> Associated Press writer Frank Eltman contributed to this report.
>
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Re: Obama - still lying all the time - this one about his mother's death

Mustang, I corrected the URL and resubmitted the email. Did you at
least check it out and see what I posted? The little f*cker lied his
@ss off about his mother and her insurance and then used that as a sales
pitch in his run for the presidency. What a POS scumbag.

Mustang wrote:
> Page does not exist. Gee, I wonder why.
>
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> *To:* James Anastos <big2wheelrxx@gmail.com>; MERLE MCKINZIE
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