Tuesday, October 26, 2010

Re: MoveOn woman kicked & stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside Rand Paul debate

You mean the Black Panthers scaring away GOP voters are really
Republicans???

On Oct 26, 1:22 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, violence and surpression are Grand Opressive Party Reicht wingnut tactics.
>
> On 10/26/10, dick <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > After the beatings, biting the finger off a Tea Partier, trying to sneak
> > infiltrators into Tea Party events and the other low underhanded tricks
> > that the Dems and their allies at the SEIU and MoveOn have pulled, would
> > you blame them?
>
> > Interesting that what we don't see is what went on earlier to bring on
> > the attack.   Without that this video means nothing.   You make it seems
> > as if this happened on the spur of the moment and you do not show what
> > the young woman did before.   Also what is the source of the video that
> > Fox showed.   Did they have any more or is this all.   Considering the
> > tricks the Dems and the SEIU have tried to pull this election I would
> > bet there is a lot more to the story than is on the video.   Let's hear
> > from the Rand Paul supporter.   Also note that this is a Fox station,
> > not one of the liberal stations that showed this.  Big difference that
> > Fox is willing to show what they have which is something that the
> > liberal stations won't do.   Now I want to see the other side of this
> > story.   Shame you never looked for it to show that as well but then
> > that is what is to be expected from the Dems.
>
> > What I think is that this woman said something or did something to get
> > this started and picked on someone with sneakers and then had a partner
> > who filmed this part of it and then turned it over to the media.   Would
> > not be the first time either party has done that although it is more a
> > tactic of the leftists.
>
> > On 10/26/2010 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
> >> MoveOn woman kicked&  stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside
> >> Rand Paul debate
> >> by Gaius Publius
>
> >> Video here:
> >>http://www.americablog.com/2010/10/moveon-woman-kicked-stomped-by.html
>
> >> It's starting.  The thugs are showing up at Teabagger events. Let's
> >> see if they can spin this as "disaffected loner" material — if so,
> >> this "loner" brought friends.
>
> >> Thanks to Joshua Green at The Atlantic for this (h/t Ian Welsh, who
> >> wants their names published):
>
> >> A Kentucky reader sends word that according to the local Fox
> >> affiliate, a young woman affiliated with MoveOn.org was brutally
> >> attacked--stomped in the head--outside the debate by a Rand Paul
> >> supporter [actually more than one].
> >> Here's the local news video. It's short and to the point: Thank God
> >> those were sneakers. Really ugly stuff. If a movement gives permission
> >> and makes excuses for violence, the result is violence. Willkommen.
>
> >> (If you like, pay attention to how the Big Boy news handles this;
> >> watch to see if they walk too fine a line.)
>
> >> GP
>
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Re: MoveOn woman kicked & stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside Rand Paul debate

When you use the term "teabagger" it shows your disdain for the
political process and others' right to excercise political freedom.

Plus, it makes you look like an asshole.

On Oct 26, 12:21 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> MoveOn woman kicked & stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside
> Rand Paul debate
> by Gaius Publius
>
> Video here:http://www.americablog.com/2010/10/moveon-woman-kicked-stomped-by.html
>
> It's starting.  The thugs are showing up at Teabagger events. Let's
> see if they can spin this as "disaffected loner" material — if so,
> this "loner" brought friends.
>
> Thanks to Joshua Green at The Atlantic for this (h/t Ian Welsh, who
> wants their names published):
>
> A Kentucky reader sends word that according to the local Fox
> affiliate, a young woman affiliated with MoveOn.org was brutally
> attacked--stomped in the head--outside the debate by a Rand Paul
> supporter [actually more than one].
> Here's the local news video. It's short and to the point: Thank God
> those were sneakers. Really ugly stuff. If a movement gives permission
> and makes excuses for violence, the result is violence. Willkommen.
>
> (If you like, pay attention to how the Big Boy news handles this;
> watch to see if they walk too fine a line.)
>
> GP
>
> --
> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> Have a great day,
> Tommy

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Re: MoveOn woman kicked & stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside Rand Paul debate

Do you deny that biting the finger off, the beating of the black
conservative at the Tea Party in St Louis, the attack on the Republican
HQ in Florida when the union thugs sent by the Dems attacked it? Now
show me real ones by the Republicans. I know there are some but most
of the ones this electoral season were actually committed by Dems trying
to masquerade as Tea Partiers and the Tea Partiers outed them.
Meanwhile the Dems are trying to blame the Tea Partiers with being this
or that but cannot prove any of it. You are in bad shape this time.

On 10/26/2010 02:22 PM, Tommy News wrote:
> No, violence and surpression are Grand Opressive Party Reicht wingnut tactics.
>
> On 10/26/10, dick<rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> After the beatings, biting the finger off a Tea Partier, trying to sneak
>> infiltrators into Tea Party events and the other low underhanded tricks
>> that the Dems and their allies at the SEIU and MoveOn have pulled, would
>> you blame them?
>>
>> Interesting that what we don't see is what went on earlier to bring on
>> the attack. Without that this video means nothing. You make it seems
>> as if this happened on the spur of the moment and you do not show what
>> the young woman did before. Also what is the source of the video that
>> Fox showed. Did they have any more or is this all. Considering the
>> tricks the Dems and the SEIU have tried to pull this election I would
>> bet there is a lot more to the story than is on the video. Let's hear
>> from the Rand Paul supporter. Also note that this is a Fox station,
>> not one of the liberal stations that showed this. Big difference that
>> Fox is willing to show what they have which is something that the
>> liberal stations won't do. Now I want to see the other side of this
>> story. Shame you never looked for it to show that as well but then
>> that is what is to be expected from the Dems.
>>
>> What I think is that this woman said something or did something to get
>> this started and picked on someone with sneakers and then had a partner
>> who filmed this part of it and then turned it over to the media. Would
>> not be the first time either party has done that although it is more a
>> tactic of the leftists.
>>
>> On 10/26/2010 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>>
>>> MoveOn woman kicked& stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside
>>> Rand Paul debate
>>> by Gaius Publius
>>>
>>> Video here:
>>> http://www.americablog.com/2010/10/moveon-woman-kicked-stomped-by.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's starting. The thugs are showing up at Teabagger events. Let's
>>> see if they can spin this as "disaffected loner" material — if so,
>>> this "loner" brought friends.
>>>
>>> Thanks to Joshua Green at The Atlantic for this (h/t Ian Welsh, who
>>> wants their names published):
>>>
>>>
>>> A Kentucky reader sends word that according to the local Fox
>>> affiliate, a young woman affiliated with MoveOn.org was brutally
>>> attacked--stomped in the head--outside the debate by a Rand Paul
>>> supporter [actually more than one].
>>> Here's the local news video. It's short and to the point: Thank God
>>> those were sneakers. Really ugly stuff. If a movement gives permission
>>> and makes excuses for violence, the result is violence. Willkommen.
>>>
>>> (If you like, pay attention to how the Big Boy news handles this;
>>> watch to see if they walk too fine a line.)
>>>
>>> GP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: MoveOn woman kicked outside Rand Paul debate

except there is no proof that the man doing it is not a CON-way
hireling and it is not a fake event

the desperation of the Left is obvious and make it much more likely
that this is another one of the Obamanoid's fake events, like their
carefully casted townhalls and other deceptions

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
> MoveOn woman kicked & stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside
> Rand Paul debate
> by Gaius Publius
>
> Video here:
> http://www.americablog.com/2010/10/moveon-woman-kicked-stomped-by.html
>
>
>
> It's starting.  The thugs are showing up at Teabagger events. Let's
> see if they can spin this as "disaffected loner" material — if so,
> this "loner" brought friends.
>
> Thanks to Joshua Green at The Atlantic for this (h/t Ian Welsh, who
> wants their names published):
>
>
> A Kentucky reader sends word that according to the local Fox
> affiliate, a young woman affiliated with MoveOn.org was brutally
> attacked--stomped in the head--outside the debate by a Rand Paul
> supporter [actually more than one].
> Here's the local news video. It's short and to the point: Thank God
> those were sneakers. Really ugly stuff. If a movement gives permission
> and makes excuses for violence, the result is violence. Willkommen.
>
> (If you like, pay attention to how the Big Boy news handles this;
> watch to see if they walk too fine a line.)
>
> GP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> Have a great day,
> Tommy
>
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Greyhawk on the Art of War and the current administration

  1. 5. Greyhawk

    Art of War and Warfare:
    I received an email from a conservative friend of mine who lives in the People’s Republic of California and he was discussing the current administration and their bungling diplomacies, etc. and discussing chess as a game to plan war strategies, etc. I responded to my good friend with the following and entitled it the Art Of Warfare:

    Exactly Doc–First of all, if you find it necessary to go to war, you then have to have as your goal, winning the war. Then, you make a plan. Then, you implement your plan. If your plan is not working, regroup and figure out why said plan did not work, and then make necessary adjustments to said plan, and act on it. And like in any planning, only scrap what does not work, keep what was working well, and then get on with the plan until your goal is achieved. If your original assessment was that war was not only the right thing to do and thus necessary, then you owe it to the cause of good and to your soldiers and to your citizens and allies to achieve the goal of defeating the enemy you found it necessary to go to war with to begin with. And, to date, in history, no wars that involved the forces of perceived good and evil, has the war been won with words and diplomacy. Diplomacy comes after you have defeated your enemy and you let the enemy know what his future rules of civility are going to be if you have any vested interest and right to be involved with his country to begin with. And, if what you are telling the enemy what his rules of civility are going to be, you have to be sure that what those rules are, are acceptable to what the majority of the citizens of said nation want. And, if you do not have the people on your side, maybe you should not be there to begin with, unless the only way to keep the nation from being an aggressor is to occupy them and keep them in check. And, with a place like the middle east where you have Muslim Regimes, who have 20th and 21st century technologies and 10th century BC mentalities, you either have to take away their technologies or capabilities of using said technologies when it comes to warfare technologies. Or, if you are not willing to do this, then you must make sure that you keep their leaders in Check to insure that they will never use those technologies against their neighbors or against any other non-aggressor nation. If the war in Iraq was necessary, then it is our responsibility now to stay in the area long enough to finish the job in the region and that may require the permanent occupation of Iraq with permanent bases to keep the Iranians and other hostiles in perpetual Check Mate. In the meantime, if part of our reason for being there is OIL because we need it, then we need to lessen the need for their oil by extracting and using our own oil which, according to our own geologists, we have plenty of it. And, as a nation, we cannot allow a group of enviro-whack jobs who have their own personalized goals and beliefs and agendas to keep us from extracting our own energy resources wherever those resources are located. And, also, when the enviro-whack jobs are endangering national security, these whack jobs need to be investigated and see which of our other enemies are they either knowingly or unknowingly colluding with. The Liberal Mindset in this country at the highest levels of power is the greatest national security threat this nation faces. And, many of them are knowingly colluding with our enemies, while, I am sure that most of them are just unknowing and ignorant pawns who go along to get along for their own selfish needs for power and approval of the powers that be. Looking at the makeup of our congress, I have never seen such an amassed group of fools and incompetents, who are able to wield so much power with an unlimited Checking Account. The current makeup of our leadership in this country is the biggest assortment of fools, lunatics, incompetents, criminals, subversives, perverts and enemy spies that I have ever witnessed. You could not plan and implement a More Perfect Storm for Disaster than what we have assembled in our government today. And, if we do not recognize this current congress and president for what and who they are, and remove them at the ballot box, and then begin to Down Size their Powers and the Abilities for them to Make another Mess of the sort they have already created, our days as a free an sovereign people living in a free and sovereign nation are numbered. This current government and it’s leadership are in bed with our enemies and in some cases, our enemies are already in positions of power in our government. The downsizing of government is absolutely necessary, and by downsizing, I mean the elimination of some of the major Agencies, Bureaus, Commissions, and Departments that do no good at all and in fact, are doing great harm to our country. And, along with these Major Unconstitutional ABCD’s of Bureaucracy, you eliminate the thousands of Tentacles of these major Bureaucracies that are spread out all over the nation like a massive root ball in a potted plant when the plant outgrows the pot. The major war we now face as a nation is the war at home. And, the citizenry of this nation have to be awakened and educated to the fact that our current government is beyond incompetent, they are criminally and suicidally incompetent. And, if we do not Win The War at home, we will continue to play into the hands of our enemies, and we will deliver the weapons and tools that our enemies will take and then destroy us and our allies with. This is the case in the middle east now. Iran is still using technologies that we gave them. The Iran we have today is the creation of Feel Good Incompetents in this government, both present and past. You can go back to Jimmy Carter, who was another incompetent warm and fuzzy president who had drank the communist kool-aid, and see how his policies put the Islamic Lunatics in power who toppled the Shah who was the head of an elected and civilized society. And, you can mark Jimmy Carter’s Presidency as the Beginning of this Islamic Terrorist War that we are still fighting today. Today, we can win the war at home with words that educate and awaken The Masses of Americans who are ignorant and are kept that way by our MSM, Hollywood, Politicians and the Public Schools. We have to end the Official Brainwashing, Lying and Propaganda Campaigns that have been waged on this country by our very so-called leaders, and tell folks what is really going on. It is my firm belief as an educator, that people make much better decisions when they are armed with the truth and good information. Mostly what the citizens of our country are being fed today are Lies, Propaganda, and Dis-Information, and it is my belief that the majority of these Lies, Propaganda and Dis-Information is being disseminated purposely by Our Leaders and the MSM and Hollywood is providing the Megaphone to Broadcast these Lies, Propaganda and Dis-Information. And, the majority of the citizens, are merely pawns who have Bought The Lies and believe the lies to be truths, and therefore are making daily decisions based on what they believe to be facts, when in fact, they have been lied to deliberately and dumbed down deliberately by the powers that be. The Liberal Democrats and other Nefarious Enemies of our Freedoms know the level of ignorance and illiteracy that exists in the USA today, because they have purposely engineered this dumbing down and brainwashing campaign over the past 4 decades, and they Prey On This Ignorance, thus the Election of the Likes of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Barney Frank, Al Cee Hastings, John Lewis, Barbara Boxer, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden and the rest of the Capitol Hill Gang of thugs, thieves, subversives, perverts, communists and other assorted misfits, criminals, and deadbeats. And, many of them are also Lawyers, who through the writing of laws that only lawyers can understand, are perpetuating the incompetency at the highest levels of government as they perpetuate their own legalistic and litigious culture. What America Needs to Hear is Common Sense spoken In Language that anybody can understand, and what Americans need is Good, Honest and Factual Information. Armed with Good Information, Most Americans, in spite of the decades of dumbing down and brainwashing, will make better decisions. The Only Way to Defeat Our Current Government is to Expose This Government and The Criminals and Incompetents that are perpetuating it. And, you do this by Telling The Public The Truth. Americans Can Handle The Truth if give an opportunity to See and Hear the Truth. It is not that most Americans believe the lies they are being told today, it is just that most Americans today, do not trust what anybody says as they have become cynical and believe that They All Lie, so what’s the difference???? Well, the difference is this: We now have a Marxist President who was Elected By An Illiterate Populace who Believed His Lies and Who Voted in a Politically Correct Way as opposed to Having An Incompetent President if we had elected John McCain. But, the difference is that John McCain’s patriotism and love of this nation cannot be questioned, whereas Mr. Obama’s love of this country can be questioned, and should be questioned based on his past and present words and deeds. Some say that in elections, you only select the lesser of 2 evils, but what you wind up with is still Evil. But, I can assure you that given the difference in evils of Obama and McCain, I will pick McCain’s Mamby Pamby Incompetence anyday of the week over Obama’s Direct Subversion and Hatred of the U.S.A. and our standing in the nation, which he seems to be determined to tear down. Thanks–Have a good day. Jerome

    • Fred Beloit

      Wow, Grey: “Well, the difference is this: We now have a Marxist President who was Elected By An Illiterate Populace…”

      No wonder we are illiterate. We are eagerly awaiting the invention of the paragraph.

      • tc

        I will second that.

        • lookout

          I second that too.

          By non-marked paragraph three, I stopped reading.

          “paragraph: a distinct passage of text, dealing with one particular point of the subject . . . beginning on a new, usually indented line.” (Canadian Oxford Dictionary)

          Greyhawk, paragraphing is user-friendly and makes it more likely that people will read what you write. Try it!

        • sally

          third and fourth that..my eyes went crazy.. why do you guys put stuff like this up> It might be great but we’ll never know

          • lookout

            ‘Good point, sally.

            I used to moderate blog entries at another site: I always paragraphed an entry like Greyhawk’s. Most other moderators had neither the time nor the inclination to do that. I altogether understand, but I’m a grammar convention junkie and, literally, couldn’t put up a post like Greyhawk’s until it was cleaned up.

            But, now that I’m not moderating, I’ve got a lot more time to make posts!

    • Dushan Lipensky

      What are you trying to say?



Re: MoveOn woman kicked & stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside Rand Paul debate

No, violence and surpression are Grand Opressive Party Reicht wingnut tactics.

On 10/26/10, dick <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
> After the beatings, biting the finger off a Tea Partier, trying to sneak
> infiltrators into Tea Party events and the other low underhanded tricks
> that the Dems and their allies at the SEIU and MoveOn have pulled, would
> you blame them?
>
> Interesting that what we don't see is what went on earlier to bring on
> the attack. Without that this video means nothing. You make it seems
> as if this happened on the spur of the moment and you do not show what
> the young woman did before. Also what is the source of the video that
> Fox showed. Did they have any more or is this all. Considering the
> tricks the Dems and the SEIU have tried to pull this election I would
> bet there is a lot more to the story than is on the video. Let's hear
> from the Rand Paul supporter. Also note that this is a Fox station,
> not one of the liberal stations that showed this. Big difference that
> Fox is willing to show what they have which is something that the
> liberal stations won't do. Now I want to see the other side of this
> story. Shame you never looked for it to show that as well but then
> that is what is to be expected from the Dems.
>
> What I think is that this woman said something or did something to get
> this started and picked on someone with sneakers and then had a partner
> who filmed this part of it and then turned it over to the media. Would
> not be the first time either party has done that although it is more a
> tactic of the leftists.
>
> On 10/26/2010 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> MoveOn woman kicked& stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside
>> Rand Paul debate
>> by Gaius Publius
>>
>> Video here:
>> http://www.americablog.com/2010/10/moveon-woman-kicked-stomped-by.html
>>
>>
>>
>> It's starting. The thugs are showing up at Teabagger events. Let's
>> see if they can spin this as "disaffected loner" material — if so,
>> this "loner" brought friends.
>>
>> Thanks to Joshua Green at The Atlantic for this (h/t Ian Welsh, who
>> wants their names published):
>>
>>
>> A Kentucky reader sends word that according to the local Fox
>> affiliate, a young woman affiliated with MoveOn.org was brutally
>> attacked--stomped in the head--outside the debate by a Rand Paul
>> supporter [actually more than one].
>> Here's the local news video. It's short and to the point: Thank God
>> those were sneakers. Really ugly stuff. If a movement gives permission
>> and makes excuses for violence, the result is violence. Willkommen.
>>
>> (If you like, pay attention to how the Big Boy news handles this;
>> watch to see if they walk too fine a line.)
>>
>> GP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: WikiLeaks Exposes Rumsfeld's Lies

Weapons of Mass Deception

See this:

http://www.hermes-press.com/bush_lied2.jpg

On 10/26/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ellen Knickmeyer writes for the Daily Beast. Another George Soros funded
> spin web-zine.
>
> Young Ellen writes about events that took place over four years ago, and
> long before the troop surge instituted by the Bush Administration,
> *sans*Donald Rumsfeld.
>
> Moreover, no one lied. On January 10, 2007, during the Presidential
> Address to the Nation, President Bush stated that "80% of Iraq's sectarian
> violence occurs within 30 miles of the capital. This violence is splitting
> Baghdad into sectarian enclaves, and shaking the confidence of all Iraqis."
>
> Again, more far left, Moonbat rehtoric, lies and spin Michael.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> *WikiLeaks Exposes Rumsfeld's Lies
>> *by Ellen Knickmeyer
>> October 25, 2010 | 7:31am
>>
>> *Recent revelations by WikiLeaks show how top American leaders lied,
>> knowingly, to the American public, to American troops, and to the world.
>> Ellen Knickmeyer on the carnage she saw as Baghdad bureau chief.
>>
>> *In the dark morning hours of Feb. 22, 2006, a group of unknown attackers
>> detonated bombs in the northern Iraqi city of Samarra, bringing down the
>> golden dome of a revered Shia Muslim shrine.
>>
>> A few hours later, I drove through Baghdad and watched the country descend
>> into civil war. Then the Baghdad bureau chief for The Washington Post, I
>> drove with Iraqi and American colleagues to Sadr City, the sprawling slum
>> on
>> the outskirts of the city. We watched hundreds of black-clad religious
>> militiamen, waving their AK 47s in the air and calling for revenge, in
>> what
>> would be the start to a campaign of sectarian killing and torture.
>>
>> During visits to Baghdad's morgue over the next two days, I saw Sunni
>> families thronging to find _WalmartAd_the bodies of loved ones killed by
>> the
>> militias. The morgue's computer registrar told the grim-faced families and
>> me that we would have to be patient; the morgue had taken in more than
>> 1,000
>> bodies since the Samarra bombing, and was way behind on processing
>> corpses.
>>
>> Here's the thing, though: According to then-Secretary of Defense Donald
>> Rumsfeld and his top commanders, it never happened. These killings, these
>> dead, did not exist. According to them, reporters like myself were lying.
>>
>> "The country is not awash in sectarian violence,'' the top U.S. commander
>> in Iraq, Gen. George Casey said, on talk show after talk show, making the
>> rounds to tell the American home-front not to worry. Civil war? "I don't
>> see
>> it happening, certainly anytime in the near term," he said, as he denied
>> the
>> surge in sectarian violence.
>>
>> Casey had taken his own drive around
>> Baghdad<http://osd.dtic.mil/news/Mar2006/20060319_4546.html>after the
>> bombing of the Samarra mosque and had seen, not executed bodies in
>> the streets but "a lot of bustle, a lot of economic activity. Store fronts
>> crowded, goods stacked up on the street."
>>
>> Donald Rumsfeld held a news conference at the Pentagon to say that U.S.
>> press reports of killings­such as mine that estimated 1,300 dead in the
>> immediate aftermath of the bombing, based on what I had seen at the
>> morgue,
>> interviews with Sunni survivors, U.N. and Iraq health officials­were
>> calculated "exaggerated reporting." Iraqi security forces, he
>> said<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/07/AR2006030700792.html>,
>> "were taking the lead in controlling the situation," everything he assured
>> his listeners was "calming."
>>
>> Here's the thing, though: According to then-Secretary of Defense Donald
>> Rumsfeld and his top commanders, it never happened. These killings, these
>> dead, did not exist.
>>
>> American journalists in Baghdad were under attack not just from Iraqi
>> insurgents, but, at least verbally, from our own country's civilian and
>> military commanders as well.
>>
>> After the mosque bombing, I had the twisting-in-the-wind experience of
>> attending the weekly press briefings at the Green Zone­this war's four o'
>> clock follies­and have the military spokesman insist that things were
>> great,
>> implying that the problem wasn't the executed and mutilated bodies now
>> found
>> in the streets; the problem was people like me.
>>
>> Thanks to WikiLeaks, though, I now know the extent to which top American
>> leaders lied, knowingly, to the American public, to American troops, and
>> to
>> the world, as the Iraq mission exploded.
>>
>> The American troops, who were risking their lives on the ground, witnessed
>> and documented it
>> themselves<http://wikileaks.org/id/56F678BE-3F65-44D9-BEDF-65E365007F75/>
>> .
>>
>> Heavily redacted, the log entries offer surreal but chilling glimpses of
>> the chaos that followed the Samarra bombing on Feb. 22. Within hours of
>> the
>> bombing, U.S. troops reported gunmen attacking; open street fighting
>> between
>> Shia and Sunni militias; rocket-propelled grenade attacks on mosques;
>> assassinations and kidnappings.
>>
>> Later, one U.S. military patrol happens on militia members dumping bodies
>> on the side of the street. The killers speed away, leaving the American
>> soldiers with a grim discovery: "bodies shot in the face…still warm,"
>> according to one log.
>>
>> _WalmartAd_Iraq was not "calming," as Rumsfeld would have it. Rather, this
>> was sectarian war, and, over the next few months, the Bush
>> administration's
>> effort to convince the world that everything was hunky-dory in Iraq became
>> less and less sustainable as the slaughter continued. According to the
>> synopsis of the WikiLeaks documents by The New York Times, the death toll
>> in
>> 2006 reached beyond 3,000 one month.
>>
>> Late last year, I sat in on a seminar at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School
>> of Government led by a former Bush official in Iraq and heard her say
>> matter-of-factly that more than 1,000 people died in one day in the
>> immediate killing after the Samarra bombing.
>>
>> But as the WikiLeaks documents show, Casey and Rumsfeld must have known
>> that all along, owing to the accounts from their forces. Despite the
>> statements of the top U.S. commanders at the time, it wasn't the
>> journalists
>> in Baghdad who were lying.
>>
>> *Ellen Knickmeyer is a former Washington Post bureau chief in Baghdad and
>> Cairo. Before coming to the Post, she was the West Africa bureau chief for
>> The Associated Press. This year, she graduated from Harvard University's
>> Kennedy School of Government.
>>
>>
>> *
>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-10-25/wikileaks-shows-rumsfeld-and-casey-lied-about-the-iraq-war/full/
>>
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Wish I could get away with stuff like this

It is pretty bad when the head of your Senate Ethics Committee has boken the rules this badly.  And to forget to post 7 (seven) mortgages held by a company that is already under investigation for giving mortgages to legislators seems like a wee bit more than just forgetting to list them.  This is blatant disregard for the law.   It also sounds like something that some who worked so hard to get called Senator rather than Ma'am even though Ma'am is the normal military form of address for a woman.   Boxer is obviously in cahoots with the Speaker who submitted and passed legislation that exempted the locale of her husband's factory from being subject to the minimum wage increase and who refuses to hire union help to work at her vineyards and restaurants.   Sounds to me like the two of them need major investigations and recusals from their committees until the investigations are completed.    Wonder when the MSM will put this news out and about.  Bet not before Nov 3.


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BREAKING: Ethics Foundation Requests A.G. Holder Investigate Sen. Boxer

Posted By Roger L Simon On October 26, 2010 @ 12:22 am In Uncategorized | 63 Comments

In a breaking development that may affect the close California Senate race, Pajamas Media has learned The Foundation for Ethics in Public Service sent a letter to Eric Holder [1] last Thursday requesting the attorney general “begin an investigation to determine whether United States Senator Barbara Boxer violated any criminal laws or should be liable for any civil penalty for failure to disclose real property on her Personal Financial Disclosure Reports between 2002 and 2010.”

The Foundation for Ethics in Public Service [2] is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization “that seeks to bring a new level of transparency, accountability and integrity to all levels of government in the United States.”  Boxer is the chair of the Senate Select Committee on Ethics.

The specific property FEPS is referring to is an Oakland, California, home valued at over a million dollars and co-owned by Boxer, her husband Stewart, their son Douglas, and his wife Amy. The letter to Holder reads in part:

Despite the fact that Senator Boxer had an ownership in 854 Longridge Road [in Oakland], she failed to report this substantial real property asset on any of her personal financial disclosures between 2002 and 2010.  She had also failed to report the mortgage on the property.  Further, she failed to report the purchase of 854 Longridge Road in 2002.  Each year Boxer was required to have filed a “full and complete report.”

The filing of false or incomplete disclosure statements  is in violation of the Ethics  in Government Act. The Act authorizes the Attorney General of the United States to seek civil penalties against Senators who knowingly and willfully falsify or fail to report required information. The knowing and willful concealment of the existence of substantial amount of real property for a prolonged period may subject Senators to federal criminal prosecution under 18 U.S.C. paragraph 101. [other citations are available at the link]

The Oakland home is currently lived in by Douglas and his wife.  This is not the first time Senator Boxer’s son has been the center of controversy [3].  The senator reportedly paid out nearly $500,000 from her campaign contributions to her son’s public relations firm between 2001 and 2009.  Those moneys could have been used to pay off the mortgage on the Oakland property, adding urgency to the DOJ investigation sought by The Foundation for Ethics in Public Service and further complicating the legal and ethical issues involved.

Indeed, ethical questions have been dogging the chair of the Senate Select Committee on Ethics of late.  According to an October 13 Washington Examiner article by Marta Mossburg (“It’s time for Sen. Barbara Boxer to come clean on her mortgage loans [4]“), Boxer held no fewer than seven mortgages with Countrywide Financial, the company at the center of the mortgage scandal she was investigating as chair of her committee.

Despite the obvious impropriety, Boxer did not recuse herself.  Instead she signed as “chair” the letter that exonerated Chris Dodd after the Connecticut senator got favorable mortgage rates from Countrywide.  That letter — available at the ethics.senate.gov site [5] — is worth reading now in light of what we have learned of Boxer’s own activities.

If Barbara Boxer is returned to the Senate, she will resume her position as chair of the Senate Select Committee on Ethics.  It is she who will preside over investigations into the ethical behavior of our senators.


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URL to article: http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2010/10/26/foundation-requests-holder-investigate-boxer/

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[1] letter to Eric Holder: http://pajamasmedia.com/files/2010/10/holder1.pdf

[2] The Foundation for Ethics in Public Service: http://www.reportpubliccorruption.org/

[3] Senator Boxer’s son has been the center of controversy: http://biggovernment.com/capitolconfidential/2010/10/11/loaded-dice-boxer-moved-legislation-benefiting-her-son/

[4] It’s time for Sen. Barbara Boxer to come clean on her mortgage loans: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/OpEd-Contributor/Marta-Mossburg-Sen-Barbara-Boxer-needs-a-training-class-in-congressional-ethics--104849489.html

[5] available at the ethics.senate.gov site: http://ethics.senate.gov/downloads/pdffiles/dodd_080709.pdf

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Re: WikiLeaks Exposes Rumsfeld's Lies

Ellen Knickmeyer  writes for the Daily Beast. Another George Soros funded spin web-zine.  
 
Young Ellen writes about events that took place over four years ago, and long before the troop surge instituted by the Bush Administration, sans Donald Rumsfeld. 
 
Moreover, no one lied.   On January 10, 2007, during the Presidential Address to the Nation, President  Bush stated that "80% of Iraq's sectarian violence occurs within 30 miles of the capital. This violence is splitting Baghdad into sectarian enclaves, and shaking the confidence of all Iraqis."
 
Again, more far left, Moonbat rehtoric, lies and spin Michael.
 
 



On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:

WikiLeaks Exposes Rumsfeld's Lies
by Ellen Knickmeyer
October 25, 2010 | 7:31am

Recent revelations by WikiLeaks show how top American leaders lied, knowingly, to the American public, to American troops, and to the world. Ellen Knickmeyer on the carnage she saw as Baghdad bureau chief.

In the dark morning hours of Feb. 22, 2006, a group of unknown attackers detonated bombs in the northern Iraqi city of Samarra, bringing down the golden dome of a revered Shia Muslim shrine.

A few hours later, I drove through Baghdad and watched the country descend into civil war. Then the Baghdad bureau chief for The Washington Post, I drove with Iraqi and American colleagues to Sadr City, the sprawling slum on the outskirts of the city. We watched hundreds of black-clad religious militiamen, waving their AK 47s in the air and calling for revenge, in what would be the start to a campaign of sectarian killing and torture.

During visits to Baghdad's morgue over the next two days, I saw Sunni families thronging to find _WalmartAd_the bodies of loved ones killed by the militias. The morgue's computer registrar told the grim-faced families and me that we would have to be patient; the morgue had taken in more than 1,000 bodies since the Samarra bombing, and was way behind on processing corpses.

Here's the thing, though: According to then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and his top commanders, it never happened. These killings, these dead, did not exist. According to them, reporters like myself were lying.

"The country is not awash in sectarian violence,'' the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. George Casey said, on talk show after talk show, making the rounds to tell the American home-front not to worry. Civil war? "I don't see it happening, certainly anytime in the near term," he said, as he denied the surge in sectarian violence.

Casey had taken his own drive around Baghdad after the bombing of the Samarra mosque and had seen, not executed bodies in the streets but "a lot of bustle, a lot of economic activity. Store fronts crowded, goods stacked up on the street."

Donald Rumsfeld held a news conference at the Pentagon to say that U.S. press reports of killings­such as mine that estimated 1,300 dead in the immediate aftermath of the bombing, based on what I had seen at the morgue, interviews with Sunni survivors, U.N. and Iraq health officials­were calculated "exaggerated reporting." Iraqi security forces, he said, "were taking the lead in controlling the situation," everything he assured his listeners was "calming."

Here's the thing, though: According to then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and his top commanders, it never happened. These killings, these dead, did not exist.

American journalists in Baghdad were under attack not just from Iraqi insurgents, but, at least verbally, from our own country's civilian and military commanders as well.

After the mosque bombing, I had the twisting-in-the-wind experience of attending the weekly press briefings at the Green Zone­this war's four o' clock follies­and have the military spokesman insist that things were great, implying that the problem wasn't the executed and mutilated bodies now found in the streets; the problem was people like me.

Thanks to WikiLeaks, though, I now know the extent to which top American leaders lied, knowingly, to the American public, to American troops, and to the world, as the Iraq mission exploded.

The American troops, who were risking their lives on the ground, witnessed and documented it themselves.

Heavily redacted, the log entries offer surreal but chilling glimpses of the chaos that followed the Samarra bombing on Feb. 22. Within hours of the bombing, U.S. troops reported gunmen attacking; open street fighting between Shia and Sunni militias; rocket-propelled grenade attacks on mosques; assassinations and kidnappings.

Later, one U.S. military patrol happens on militia members dumping bodies on the side of the street. The killers speed away, leaving the American soldiers with a grim discovery: "bodies shot in the face…still warm," according to one log.

_WalmartAd_Iraq was not "calming," as Rumsfeld would have it. Rather, this was sectarian war, and, over the next few months, the Bush administration's effort to convince the world that everything was hunky-dory in Iraq became less and less sustainable as the slaughter continued. According to the synopsis of the WikiLeaks documents by The New York Times, the death toll in 2006 reached beyond 3,000 one month.

Late last year, I sat in on a seminar at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government led by a former Bush official in Iraq and heard her say matter-of-factly that more than 1,000 people died in one day in the immediate killing after the Samarra bombing.

But as the WikiLeaks documents show, Casey and Rumsfeld must have known that all along, owing to the accounts from their forces. Despite the statements of the top U.S. commanders at the time, it wasn't the journalists in Baghdad who were lying.

Ellen Knickmeyer is a former Washington Post bureau chief in Baghdad and Cairo. Before coming to the Post, she was the West Africa bureau chief for The Associated Press. This year, she graduated from Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-10-25/wikileaks-shows-rumsfeld-and-casey-lied-about-the-iraq-war/full/

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Re: MoveOn woman kicked & stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside Rand Paul debate

After the beatings, biting the finger off a Tea Partier, trying to sneak
infiltrators into Tea Party events and the other low underhanded tricks
that the Dems and their allies at the SEIU and MoveOn have pulled, would
you blame them?

Interesting that what we don't see is what went on earlier to bring on
the attack. Without that this video means nothing. You make it seems
as if this happened on the spur of the moment and you do not show what
the young woman did before. Also what is the source of the video that
Fox showed. Did they have any more or is this all. Considering the
tricks the Dems and the SEIU have tried to pull this election I would
bet there is a lot more to the story than is on the video. Let's hear
from the Rand Paul supporter. Also note that this is a Fox station,
not one of the liberal stations that showed this. Big difference that
Fox is willing to show what they have which is something that the
liberal stations won't do. Now I want to see the other side of this
story. Shame you never looked for it to show that as well but then
that is what is to be expected from the Dems.

What I think is that this woman said something or did something to get
this started and picked on someone with sneakers and then had a partner
who filmed this part of it and then turned it over to the media. Would
not be the first time either party has done that although it is more a
tactic of the leftists.

On 10/26/2010 01:21 PM, Tommy News wrote:
> MoveOn woman kicked& stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside
> Rand Paul debate
> by Gaius Publius
>
> Video here:
> http://www.americablog.com/2010/10/moveon-woman-kicked-stomped-by.html
>
>
>
> It's starting. The thugs are showing up at Teabagger events. Let's
> see if they can spin this as "disaffected loner" material — if so,
> this "loner" brought friends.
>
> Thanks to Joshua Green at The Atlantic for this (h/t Ian Welsh, who
> wants their names published):
>
>
> A Kentucky reader sends word that according to the local Fox
> affiliate, a young woman affiliated with MoveOn.org was brutally
> attacked--stomped in the head--outside the debate by a Rand Paul
> supporter [actually more than one].
> Here's the local news video. It's short and to the point: Thank God
> those were sneakers. Really ugly stuff. If a movement gives permission
> and makes excuses for violence, the result is violence. Willkommen.
>
> (If you like, pay attention to how the Big Boy news handles this;
> watch to see if they walk too fine a line.)
>
> GP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Torture, Death, and Destruction in Iraq

You are a wako Reicht Neocon Fascist Wingnut.

Bush went after the wrong enemy in the wrong country based on his
personal Vendetta against Sadaam Hussein, using Rove lies and fear
fueled by the corporate war profiteering greed of Dick Cheney and his
Halliburton cronies.

See this:

http://politicsoffthegrid.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/mission_accomplished02-hires.jpg

On 10/26/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are a Wacko left, Marxist-Elitist Moonbat Tommy! Of course you see the
> invasion of Iraq as a war crime! You don't even know what transpired there,
> other than the rhetoric and prevaricate storyline you have heard MoveOn.org
> and other Anti-American hate sites spew!
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The invasion of Iraq was an illegal war crime.
>>
>> Neocon Wingnuts
>>
>> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/graphics/neocon.jpg
>>
>> On 10/26/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > As I demonstrated last week, Jacob Hornberger has based his whole
>> > premise
>> on
>> > falsehoods, prevaricate left wing rhetoric, and illogical foundations.
>> > I
>> > went in and looked at the Future of Freedom Foundation's Mission, Goals,
>> and
>> > Declaration of Principles. Sounds all pretty honest, straighftorward
>> and
>> > noble. If the organization is as it sounds, then it should get rid of
>> > those who distort the truth, whether it be for the right, left, or
>> > libertine. There is no place in media for those who distort the truth
>> > because of their bias.
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Re: Torture, Death, and Destruction in Iraq

You are a Wacko left, Marxist-Elitist Moonbat Tommy!  Of course you see the invasion of Iraq as a war crime!  You don't even know what transpired there, other than the rhetoric and prevaricate storyline you have heard MoveOn.org and other Anti-American hate sites spew!
 


 
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The invasion of Iraq was an illegal war crime.

Neocon Wingnuts

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/graphics/neocon.jpg

On 10/26/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> As I demonstrated last week, Jacob Hornberger has based his whole premise on
> falsehoods, prevaricate left wing rhetoric, and illogical foundations.  I
> went in and looked at the Future of Freedom Foundation's Mission, Goals, and
> Declaration of Principles.   Sounds all pretty honest, straighftorward and
> noble.   If the organization is as it sounds, then it should get rid of
> those who distort the truth, whether it be for the right, left, or
> libertine.   There is no place in media for those who distort the truth
> because of their bias.
>
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Re: Torture, Death, and Destruction in Iraq

The invasion of Iraq was an illegal war crime.

Neocon Wingnuts

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/graphics/neocon.jpg

On 10/26/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> As I demonstrated last week, Jacob Hornberger has based his whole premise on
> falsehoods, prevaricate left wing rhetoric, and illogical foundations. I
> went in and looked at the Future of Freedom Foundation's Mission, Goals, and
> Declaration of Principles. Sounds all pretty honest, straighftorward and
> noble. If the organization is as it sounds, then it should get rid of
> those who distort the truth, whether it be for the right, left, or
> libertine. There is no place in media for those who distort the truth
> because of their bias.
>
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Funny how David Brooks has suddenly remembered that he is a "conservative"

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/26/opinion/26brooks.html?th&emc=th

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What a surprise - the NYT supports all Dems

Loved this comment. The Republican cannot be independent in today's DC
but the Democrat can? Only if San Fran Nan tells them to be and she
can do without their vote; otherwise they had better stick with the
program or else. Check how independent that Dem has been. Betcha he
has voted with San Fran Nan well over 90% of the time. The other
howler is the bit about hw the congressman wants to improve the HCR
bill. How about he should have read the bill before voting for it.
Then he could have seen to it that most of the fixes would not have been
needed and who is to say that enough of the fixes will be found in time
to keep the bill from causing even more damage than it already has.
The reasoning of this editorial crew is really ridiculous and makes no
sense at all.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/26/opinion/26tue3.html?th&emc=th

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MoveOn woman kicked & stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside Rand Paul debate

MoveOn woman kicked & stomped by 'Libertarian' Tea Baggers outside
Rand Paul debate
by Gaius Publius

Video here:
http://www.americablog.com/2010/10/moveon-woman-kicked-stomped-by.html

It's starting. The thugs are showing up at Teabagger events. Let's
see if they can spin this as "disaffected loner" material — if so,
this "loner" brought friends.

Thanks to Joshua Green at The Atlantic for this (h/t Ian Welsh, who
wants their names published):


A Kentucky reader sends word that according to the local Fox
affiliate, a young woman affiliated with MoveOn.org was brutally
attacked--stomped in the head--outside the debate by a Rand Paul
supporter [actually more than one].
Here's the local news video. It's short and to the point: Thank God
those were sneakers. Really ugly stuff. If a movement gives permission
and makes excuses for violence, the result is violence. Willkommen.

(If you like, pay attention to how the Big Boy news handles this;
watch to see if they walk too fine a line.)

GP

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WikiLeaks Exposes Rumsfeld's Lies


WikiLeaks Exposes Rumsfeld's Lies
by Ellen Knickmeyer
October 25, 2010 | 7:31am

Recent revelations by WikiLeaks show how top American leaders lied, knowingly, to the American public, to American troops, and to the world. Ellen Knickmeyer on the carnage she saw as Baghdad bureau chief.

In the dark morning hours of Feb. 22, 2006, a group of unknown attackers detonated bombs in the northern Iraqi city of Samarra, bringing down the golden dome of a revered Shia Muslim shrine.

A few hours later, I drove through Baghdad and watched the country descend into civil war. Then the Baghdad bureau chief for The Washington Post, I drove with Iraqi and American colleagues to Sadr City, the sprawling slum on the outskirts of the city. We watched hundreds of black-clad religious militiamen, waving their AK 47s in the air and calling for revenge, in what would be the start to a campaign of sectarian killing and torture.

During visits to Baghdad's morgue over the next two days, I saw Sunni families thronging to find _WalmartAd_the bodies of loved ones killed by the militias. The morgue's computer registrar told the grim-faced families and me that we would have to be patient; the morgue had taken in more than 1,000 bodies since the Samarra bombing, and was way behind on processing corpses.

Here's the thing, though: According to then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and his top commanders, it never happened. These killings, these dead, did not exist. According to them, reporters like myself were lying.

"The country is not awash in sectarian violence,'' the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. George Casey said, on talk show after talk show, making the rounds to tell the American home-front not to worry. Civil war? "I don't see it happening, certainly anytime in the near term," he said, as he denied the surge in sectarian violence.

Casey had taken his own drive around Baghdad after the bombing of the Samarra mosque and had seen, not executed bodies in the streets but "a lot of bustle, a lot of economic activity. Store fronts crowded, goods stacked up on the street."

Donald Rumsfeld held a news conference at the Pentagon to say that U.S. press reports of killings­such as mine that estimated 1,300 dead in the immediate aftermath of the bombing, based on what I had seen at the morgue, interviews with Sunni survivors, U.N. and Iraq health officials­were calculated "exaggerated reporting." Iraqi security forces, he said, "were taking the lead in controlling the situation," everything he assured his listeners was "calming."

Here's the thing, though: According to then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and his top commanders, it never happened. These killings, these dead, did not exist.

American journalists in Baghdad were under attack not just from Iraqi insurgents, but, at least verbally, from our own country's civilian and military commanders as well.

After the mosque bombing, I had the twisting-in-the-wind experience of attending the weekly press briefings at the Green Zone­this war's four o' clock follies­and have the military spokesman insist that things were great, implying that the problem wasn't the executed and mutilated bodies now found in the streets; the problem was people like me.

Thanks to WikiLeaks, though, I now know the extent to which top American leaders lied, knowingly, to the American public, to American troops, and to the world, as the Iraq mission exploded.

The American troops, who were risking their lives on the ground, witnessed and documented it themselves.

Heavily redacted, the log entries offer surreal but chilling glimpses of the chaos that followed the Samarra bombing on Feb. 22. Within hours of the bombing, U.S. troops reported gunmen attacking; open street fighting between Shia and Sunni militias; rocket-propelled grenade attacks on mosques; assassinations and kidnappings.

Later, one U.S. military patrol happens on militia members dumping bodies on the side of the street. The killers speed away, leaving the American soldiers with a grim discovery: "bodies shot in the face…still warm," according to one log.

_WalmartAd_Iraq was not "calming," as Rumsfeld would have it. Rather, this was sectarian war, and, over the next few months, the Bush administration's effort to convince the world that everything was hunky-dory in Iraq became less and less sustainable as the slaughter continued. According to the synopsis of the WikiLeaks documents by The New York Times, the death toll in 2006 reached beyond 3,000 one month.

Late last year, I sat in on a seminar at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government led by a former Bush official in Iraq and heard her say matter-of-factly that more than 1,000 people died in one day in the immediate killing after the Samarra bombing.

But as the WikiLeaks documents show, Casey and Rumsfeld must have known that all along, owing to the accounts from their forces. Despite the statements of the top U.S. commanders at the time, it wasn't the journalists in Baghdad who were lying.

Ellen Knickmeyer is a former Washington Post bureau chief in Baghdad and Cairo. Before coming to the Post, she was the West Africa bureau chief for The Associated Press. This year, she graduated from Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-10-25/wikileaks-shows-rumsfeld-and-casey-lied-about-the-iraq-war/full/

Re: Torture, Death, and Destruction in Iraq

As I demonstrated last week, Jacob Hornberger has based his whole premise on falsehoods, prevaricate left wing rhetoric, and illogical foundations.  I went in and looked at the Future of Freedom Foundation's Mission, Goals, and Declaration of Principles.   Sounds all pretty honest, straighftorward and noble.   If the organization is as it sounds, then it should get rid of those who distort the truth, whether it be for the right, left, or libertine.   There is no place in media for those who distort the truth because of their bias.
 

 

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