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Re: Fwd: Thought you may like this article...

Great post Dick !!!!!!

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:13:45 -0500
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Re: Are Body Scanners Dangerous to Your Health?

A reasonable concern. Far better than, "you can see my boobies or
johnson"

Please. My daughter's "nekid" Barbie dolls in the bathroom were more
revealing.

On Nov 23, 12:14 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
wrote:
> Are Body Scanners Dangerous to Your Health?http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_6617.shtml
>
> By John W. Whitehead
> Online Journal Guest Writer
>
> Nov 23, 2010, 00:23
>
> As the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) pushes forward with
> its plan to place full-body scanners in all American airports, experts
> in the scientific community are raising serious concerns that the
> full-body scanners are not medically safe for the millions of people
> that will be exposed to them each year. Even the Allied Pilots
> Association has urged its members to opt out of the body scanning
> measures because of the "ionizing radiation, which could be harmful to
> their health."
>
> In April 2010, four members of the University of California faculty
> relayed to Dr. John P. Holdren, President Obama's Science and Technology
> czar, their concerns about the serious health risks posed to travelers
> by the whole body back scatter X-ray scanners. Dr. Sedat is a Professor
> Emeritus in Biochemistry and Biophysics, with expertise in imaging; Dr.
> Marc Sherman is an internationally well known and respected cancer
> expert; and Drs. David Agard and Robert Stroud are X-ray
> crystallographers and imaging experts. Suffice it to say, these men know
> what they're talking about. So when they suggest that an immediate
> moratorium is needed on the use of the scanners in order to carry out a
> second independent evaluation to determine that the scanners really
> /are/ safe, our government, which is supposed to protect us from these
> kinds of dangers, should listen.
>
> Specifically, these scientists argue that the concentration of radiation
> on the skin of individuals being scanned poses a serious cancer risk
> that has been largely dismissed. The TSA has compared the radiation
> received from the body scanner to the radiation that is absorbed in
> regular airplane travel or the radiation from a chest X-ray. However, in
> their memo to Dr. Holdren, Drs. Sedat, Agard, Stroud and Shuman note
> that this comparison is "very misleading." The TSA estimates only
> consider the radiation as it would be if absorbed by the whole body, as
> opposed to how the scanner really operates, which is to concentrate the
> radiation on the skin. The scientists claim that the body scanners have
> not received a proper medical review using "key data" which would allow
> for a proper understanding of the medical impact of the technology which
> they believe could cause mutations and skin cancer. They suggest setting
> up an independent panel to review the safety concerns posed by the
> scanners, a highly reasonable suggestion for a piece of technology that
> will be scanning millions of people a year.
>
> Other scientists have also voiced their concerns over the devices, such
> as Dr. David Brenner who heads Columbia University's Center for
> Radiological Research. He states that radiation produced by the scanners
> is /twenty times/ higher than the official estimate. Physics professor
> Peter Rez at Arizona State University echoes Dr. Brenner's claims. He
> points out that there is a real possibility that a body scanner could
> malfunction, concentrating unsafe amounts of radiation on one area of
> the body. "The scary thing to me is not what happens in normal
> operations, but what happens if the machine fails. Mechanical things
> break down, frequently."
>
> On a side note, while it's bad enough that the scanners can see through
> your clothing to an alarming degree, they can also reveal quite a bit
> about your health history. As Dr. Kristin Byrne, a radiologist at Lenox
> Hill Hospital in New York City, points out, "The airport scanners show
> anything on the surface of the skin and very closely under the skin."
> This includes foreign objects close to the skin, including piercings,
> catheters and colostomy bags, as well as breast implants and prosthetic
> testicles. These are items that most people want to keep private and
> away from the prying eyes of the public and government officials.
>
> Despite all of this, Janet Napolitano, secretary of the Department of
> Homeland Defense insists that the full-body scanners "are safe,
> efficient, and protect passenger privacy. They have been independently
> evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the National
> Institute of Standards and Technology, and the Johns Hopkins University
> Applied Physics Laboratory, who have all affirmed their safety."
> Parroting her, TSA Administrator John Pistole in testimony before a
> Senate panel on November 16, 2010, claims that the body scanners struck
> a proper balance between privacy and security and that the radiation
> exposure was "well within safety standards."
>
> Of course, the FDA, which has been criticized heavily in recent years as
> being fundamentally broken and even corrupt, has a very dubious track
> record when it comes to ensuring the safety and efficacy of drugs,
> biologics and medical devices. Over the years, the FDA has been accused
> of causing high drug prices, keeping life-saving drugs off the market,
> allowing unsafe drugs on the market because of pressure from
> pharmaceutical companies and censoring health information about
> nutritional supplements and foods. For example, the FDA recently
> admitted to making a mistake in approving a controversial knee implant
> against the advice of its scientific reviewers. As the Associated Press
> reports, "The announcement comes a year after the agency first
> acknowledged that its decision to approve the device was influenced by
> outside pressure, including lobbying by four lawmakers from the
> company's home state of New Jersey."
>
> The question is: if the scanners are potentially dangerous, then why has
> the government been in such an all-fire rush to implement them?
>
> First, we have to recognize that we are ruled by an elite class of
> individuals who are completely out of touch with the travails of the
> average American. The government officials who have foisted these
> scanners on us -- President Obama, whose stimulus funds are paying for
> the scanners; members of Congress, who have pushed for the technology to
> be implemented in the airports; and Janet Napolitano and John Pistole,
> who have been adamant about subjecting the American people to all manner
> of indignities and rights violations for the sake of security -- don't
> have to go through the scanners (they have the luxury of flying on
> private or government planes and having security clearances that allow
> them to breeze past such barriers), so there's no risk to them medically.
>
> Second, we are -- and have been for some time -- the unwitting victims
> of a system so corrupt that those who stand up for the rule of law and
> aspire to transparency in government are in the minority. This
> corruption is so vast it spans all branches of government -- from the
> power-hungry agencies under the executive branch and the corporate
> puppets within the legislative branch to a judiciary that is, more often
> that not, elitist and biased towards government entities and
> corporations. The scanners are a perfect example of this collusion
> between corporate lobbyists and government officials.
>
> Third, we are relatively expendable in the eyes of government --
> faceless numbers of individuals who serve one purpose, which is to keep
> the government machine running through our labor and our tax dollars.
> Those in power aren't losing any sleep over the indignities we are being
> made to suffer or the possible risks to our health. All they care about
> are power and control.
>
> "We the people" have not done the best job of holding our
> representatives accountable or standing up for our rights. But there
> must be a limit to our temerity. Clearly, there are enough concerns
> about the health risks posed by these scanners to justify placing a
> moratorium on their use in airports. Something as potentially dangerous
> as these scanners certainly shouldn't be forced on the American public
> without the absolute assurance that it will not harm our health or
> undermine our liberties. At a minimum, Congress should establish an
> independent commission -- one not comprised of individuals connected to
> corporations that stand to profit from the scanners -- to fully examine
> these concerns and report back to the American people. And DHS and TSA
> need to go back to the drawing board and find a better way to protect
> national security without sacrificing our health and our freedoms.
>
> /About John W. Whitehead: Constitutional attorney and author John W.
> Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute. His new
> book The Freedom Wars (TRI Press) is available online atwww.amazon.com.
> Whitehead can be contacted at //jo...@rutherford.org/
> <mailto:jo...@rutherford.org>/. Information about The Rutherford
> Institute is available at //www.rutherford.org/
> <http://www.rutherford.org/>/. /
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Are Body Scanners Dangerous to Your Health?

Are Body Scanners Dangerous to Your Health?
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_6617.shtml

By John W. Whitehead
Online Journal Guest Writer

Nov 23, 2010, 00:23

As the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) pushes forward with its plan to place full-body scanners in all American airports, experts in the scientific community are raising serious concerns that the full-body scanners are not medically safe for the millions of people that will be exposed to them each year. Even the Allied Pilots Association has urged its members to opt out of the body scanning measures because of the “ionizing radiation, which could be harmful to their health.”

In April 2010, four members of the University of California faculty relayed to Dr. John P. Holdren, President Obama’s Science and Technology czar, their concerns about the serious health risks posed to travelers by the whole body back scatter X-ray scanners. Dr. Sedat is a Professor Emeritus in Biochemistry and Biophysics, with expertise in imaging; Dr. Marc Sherman is an internationally well known and respected cancer expert; and Drs. David Agard and Robert Stroud are X-ray crystallographers and imaging experts. Suffice it to say, these men know what they’re talking about. So when they suggest that an immediate moratorium is needed on the use of the scanners in order to carry out a second independent evaluation to determine that the scanners really are safe, our government, which is supposed to protect us from these kinds of dangers, should listen.

Specifically, these scientists argue that the concentration of radiation on the skin of individuals being scanned poses a serious cancer risk that has been largely dismissed. The TSA has compared the radiation received from the body scanner to the radiation that is absorbed in regular airplane travel or the radiation from a chest X-ray. However, in their memo to Dr. Holdren, Drs. Sedat, Agard, Stroud and Shuman note that this comparison is “very misleading.” The TSA estimates only consider the radiation as it would be if absorbed by the whole body, as opposed to how the scanner really operates, which is to concentrate the radiation on the skin. The scientists claim that the body scanners have not received a proper medical review using “key data” which would allow for a proper understanding of the medical impact of the technology which they believe could cause mutations and skin cancer. They suggest setting up an independent panel to review the safety concerns posed by the scanners, a highly reasonable suggestion for a piece of technology that will be scanning millions of people a year.

Other scientists have also voiced their concerns over the devices, such as Dr. David Brenner who heads Columbia University’s Center for Radiological Research. He states that radiation produced by the scanners is twenty times higher than the official estimate. Physics professor Peter Rez at Arizona State University echoes Dr. Brenner’s claims. He points out that there is a real possibility that a body scanner could malfunction, concentrating unsafe amounts of radiation on one area of the body. “The scary thing to me is not what happens in normal operations, but what happens if the machine fails. Mechanical things break down, frequently.”

On a side note, while it’s bad enough that the scanners can see through your clothing to an alarming degree, they can also reveal quite a bit about your health history. As Dr. Kristin Byrne, a radiologist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, points out, “The airport scanners show anything on the surface of the skin and very closely under the skin.” This includes foreign objects close to the skin, including piercings, catheters and colostomy bags, as well as breast implants and prosthetic testicles. These are items that most people want to keep private and away from the prying eyes of the public and government officials.

Despite all of this, Janet Napolitano, secretary of the Department of Homeland Defense insists that the full-body scanners “are safe, efficient, and protect passenger privacy. They have been independently evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the National Institute of Standards and Technology, and the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, who have all affirmed their safety.” Parroting her, TSA Administrator John Pistole in testimony before a Senate panel on November 16, 2010, claims that the body scanners struck a proper balance between privacy and security and that the radiation exposure was “well within safety standards.”

Of course, the FDA, which has been criticized heavily in recent years as being fundamentally broken and even corrupt, has a very dubious track record when it comes to ensuring the safety and efficacy of drugs, biologics and medical devices. Over the years, the FDA has been accused of causing high drug prices, keeping life-saving drugs off the market, allowing unsafe drugs on the market because of pressure from pharmaceutical companies and censoring health information about nutritional supplements and foods. For example, the FDA recently admitted to making a mistake in approving a controversial knee implant against the advice of its scientific reviewers. As the Associated Press reports, “The announcement comes a year after the agency first acknowledged that its decision to approve the device was influenced by outside pressure, including lobbying by four lawmakers from the company’s home state of New Jersey.”

The question is: if the scanners are potentially dangerous, then why has the government been in such an all-fire rush to implement them?

First, we have to recognize that we are ruled by an elite class of individuals who are completely out of touch with the travails of the average American. The government officials who have foisted these scanners on us -- President Obama, whose stimulus funds are paying for the scanners; members of Congress, who have pushed for the technology to be implemented in the airports; and Janet Napolitano and John Pistole, who have been adamant about subjecting the American people to all manner of indignities and rights violations for the sake of security -- don’t have to go through the scanners (they have the luxury of flying on private or government planes and having security clearances that allow them to breeze past such barriers), so there’s no risk to them medically.

Second, we are -- and have been for some time -- the unwitting victims of a system so corrupt that those who stand up for the rule of law and aspire to transparency in government are in the minority. This corruption is so vast it spans all branches of government -- from the power-hungry agencies under the executive branch and the corporate puppets within the legislative branch to a judiciary that is, more often that not, elitist and biased towards government entities and corporations. The scanners are a perfect example of this collusion between corporate lobbyists and government officials.

Third, we are relatively expendable in the eyes of government -- faceless numbers of individuals who serve one purpose, which is to keep the government machine running through our labor and our tax dollars. Those in power aren’t losing any sleep over the indignities we are being made to suffer or the possible risks to our health. All they care about are power and control.

“We the people” have not done the best job of holding our representatives accountable or standing up for our rights. But there must be a limit to our temerity. Clearly, there are enough concerns about the health risks posed by these scanners to justify placing a moratorium on their use in airports. Something as potentially dangerous as these scanners certainly shouldn’t be forced on the American public without the absolute assurance that it will not harm our health or undermine our liberties. At a minimum, Congress should establish an independent commission -- one not comprised of individuals connected to corporations that stand to profit from the scanners -- to fully examine these concerns and report back to the American people. And DHS and TSA need to go back to the drawing board and find a better way to protect national security without sacrificing our health and our freedoms.

About John W. Whitehead: Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute. His new book The Freedom Wars (TRI Press) is available online at www.amazon.com. Whitehead can be contacted at johnw@rutherford.org. Information about The Rutherford Institute is available at www.rutherford.org.

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Re: Fwd: It's Official - The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December

Ain't it funny how the left gave birth to cows on ice over warrantless
wiretaps, but the fact that Senator Obama voted not only to extend
them, but EXPAND them, and now President Obama is further expanding
that power to the internet is just no big deal?

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**JP** North Korea launches attack on South Korea



Tuesday, 23 November 2010 15:51


Moscow, November 23, 2010: North Korea opened artillery fire at a South Korean island on Tuesday, killing one soldier and provoking a retaliatory attack from the South, Seoul's YTN television reported.

An eyewitness told the TV station that some 60 to 70 houses were ablaze on the Yeonpyeong island in the Yellow Sea. The island, which is off the countries' west coast, is populated by some 1,200 people.

A spokesman for South Korea's joint chief of staff said "scores of rounds" were fired by the North. South Korean military retaliated by firing some 80 rounds, Yonhap said.

At least one South Korean marine is reported to have died, with three seriously injured. It is not immediately known if there were any civilian casualties.

The South Korean military is on its highest non-war alert and the Air Force has deployed fighter jets to the island.

Yonhap said Seoul was considering the evacuation of its nationals currently in North Korea.

"We will decide whether we should evacuate them or not after looking into the safety of those at the Mount Kumgang resort and the Kaesong industrial park," the South Korean agency quoted a Unification Ministry official as saying.

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak ordered an emergency meeting of security ministers in connection with the attack.

Tuesday's exchange of fire came amid large-scale military exercises in South Korea. The drills, involving some 70,000 troops, were launched Monday and are to last through November 30.

"Our army was carrying out military training, and there was a telegram from North Korea with a protest and questioning whether this was an attack," the spokesperson was quoted as saying by South Korea's Yonhap news agency.

He did not rule out that subsequent artillery fire from the North was a response to the drills.

The attack is the second incident in the tense Yellow Sea border area this year. In March, a North Korean submarine was alleged to have torpedoed a South Korean naval ship, the Cheonan, causing the loss of 46 lives. An international investigation said the North was to blame, but the reclusive regime denied involvement.

North and South Korea remain technically at war, since no peace treaty was signed following the Korean War in 1953. The Demilitarized Zone between the countries is the most heavily armed border in the world.

The latest attack comes after the revelation that the North has created a new uranium enrichment facility.

Despite the development, South Korea will not seek the return of U.S. tactical nuclear missiles over fears that the move could scupper international efforts to persuade North Korea to halt its nuclear program, the South Korean deputy defense minister said.

"Redeploying U.S. tactical nuclear weapons in South Korea would cross the line of the denuclearization policy on the Korean Peninsula," deputy defense minister Chang Kwang-il told Yonhap.


He added that "South Korea has had no talks with the United States over the issue."China wants to see a resumption of six-party talks on North Korea's nuclear program, a spokesman for Chinese Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday.

"China's position remains unchanged...the problems should be solved through talks and consultations," the spokesman said.

North Korea pulled out of talks with Russia, Japan, China, the United States and South Korea over its nuclear program last April after the United Nations condemned the communist state's missile tests. North Korea recently revealed the existence of a new uranium enrichment plant in a move the U.S. called "provocative."

The attack is the second incident in the tense Yellow Sea border area this year. In March, a North Korean submarine was alleged to have torpedoed a South Korean naval ship, the Cheonan, causing the loss of 46 lives. An international investigation said the North was to blame, but the reclusive regime denied involvement.

North and South Korea remain technically at war, since no peace treaty was signed following the Korean War in 1953. The Demilitarized Zone between the countries is the most heavily armed border in the world.

Korea fact box: sixty five years of conflict between North and South Korea.

1945 - Korea divided between occupying US and Soviet forces, initially under UN auspices, after removal of Japanese occupation forces at the end of World War Two. Koreans not consulted on the division.

1948 - Korea divided into pro-Soviet Democratic People's Republic of Korea in the north, and pro-American Republic of Korea in the south. Soviet forces leave North Korea.

1949 - US troops withdraw from South Korea

1950 - Republic of Korea recognized by UN as sole legitimate government of Korea.

Korean war breaks out on June 25 as North Korean troops invade the south.

1953 - Armistice signed, but no peace treaty, after three-year war involving intervention by UN forces including soldiers from US on Southern side, and Chinese forces on the Northern side. Nation divided at 38th parallel.

1969 - North Korea obtains first tactical missiles from USSR.

1974 - North Korea obtains Scud ballistic missiles from Egypt.

1979 - South Korea begins transition to democratic government under President Chun Doo-hwan after succession of military led governments.

1977-1983 - Japanese citizens allegedly kidnapped and taken to North Korea by Northern agents. North later admits abductions took place.

1988 - First two-way trade ties legalized by South Korea. Olympic Games take place in South.

1991 - North and South Korea join United Nations.

1991 - US removes last tactical nuclear weapons from South Korea.

1994 - Kim Il-sung, founder of DPRK, dies aged 82 and is succeeded by son Kim Jong-il. North Korea begins nuclear program according to US State Department.

2006 - North Korea explodes first experimental nuclear device and test fires long range Taepodong ballistic missile.

2008 - Lee Myung-bak elected as President of South Korea.

2010 - South Korean warship sunk in March after torpedo explosion, killing 46 sailors. South Korea blames North for attack by submarine.

2010 - Kim Jong-un emerges as likely future successor to his father Kim Jong-Il at 65th anniversary congress of Korean Workers' Party.



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**JP** Who In Pakistan Is Responsible For CIA Drones?

Who is behind the current killing of thousands of Pakistani innocents (as our parliament sits and sleeps....)??? The drones, only few attacks in the times of GPM, now have reached astronomical figures....who is the real culprit allowing it all? Why our media is quiet about it? Why no political grouping have staged a boycott of all activities till the drones are shot down or stopped? why there is this criminal silence on the killings of innocent people of our north??? It is known that the military will not take any step on its own, unless it is the government, but they can put pressure...and the moles in the government are also well known...so the judiciary allows the known moles to continue , and the parliament sits and eats and do nothing, and our nationals continue to die? 


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Who should be held responsible: retired General Pervez Musharraf, President Asif Ali Zardari or COAS Gen. Ashfaque Parvez Kayani? They can't shun their responsibility for the rise in CIA drone attacks in Pakistan in the past three years and someone will have to become answerable in front of the Pakistani nation.

 

 

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LAHORE, Pakistan—The increase in the American drone attacks in the South and North Waziristan has now become unbearable. The stage has come where our leadership should pick up the guts to tell US President Barack Obama enough is enough. The main question is who should be held responsible for allowing the ruthless killing of innocent civilians in collateral damage- former military dictator Gen. (retd) Pervez Musharraf, COAS Ashfaq Parvez Kayani or President Asif Ali Zardari? Although no immediate answer is available, yet none of them can shun responsibility and the day is not far off when they will have to account for their role.


Even if we argue that this is being done to eliminate Al-Qaeda and extremist elements from the tribal region, nothing justified carrying out 200-plus drone attacks since they started in 2004, killing well over 2,000 innocent civilians as only 30 suspected terrorists were hit. The ratio of striking against the Al-Qaeda operatives achieved by these drone attacks, according to military estimates is as low as 2.5 per cent, which is not enviable by any standards.


Unanimous resolutions the Senate and the National Assembly passed in November 2008 in a session open to public and similar four others adopted by the provincial legislatures fell on deaf ears of the ruling elite, let alone impacting the masters of our destiny sitting in Pentagon and CIA who can be held accountable for this agonizing human tragedy. Violations of Pakistan's territorial integrity and disregard for its national sovereignty as an independent state are continuing unabated and there appears to be no move by the Pakistani government to seek an end to it. Each time drones come and fire missiles inside Pakistan, the Foreign Office issues a mildly-worded condemnation. Sometimes even a condemnation is not considered necessary. Often the Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi reacts only to justify American attacks.


The Washington Post has come out with a hilarious report that says that the American military leadership is seeking expansion in areas where drones could launch attacks, impliedly meaning to stretch the operations to Balochistan and Southern Punjab. It will be a big folly on part of the United States to go for such an adventure as it might lead to popular uprising against the sitting rulers.


It is worth mentioning here that a former Chief of Air Staff had said categorically that the PAF has the ability to shoot down drone aircraft provided the government has the political will to do so. Similarly, sometime back former Chief of the Army Staff, Gen. (retd.) Mirza Aslam Baig had also said that American drones should be targeted when they violate Pakistani airspace.

 

Former foreign minister Khurshid Mahmood Kasuri, in an interview, explained that the agreement between the Musharraf regime and Washington was limited to allowing CIA drones to gather intelligence and share it with Pakistan so that Pak Army could carry out operations to eliminate terrorists. Under no circumstances, Kasuri insists, were the Americans given permission to carry out attacks within Pakistani borders.


It is about time that the Troika – comprising the president, the prime minister and the COAS – put their heads together and worked out a policy about US military attacks inside Pakistan. Pakistan has already paid a heavy price in term of lives of military personnel and civilian population besides ruining its economy. The attacks have created a situation that no investor is willing to invest in Pakistan. We are suffering due to suicide bombings, explosions and target killings in every nook and corner of the country.


The assertion made by President Obama during his recent address to the Indian Parliament that a stable Pakistan is in the interest of Washington and New Delhi is nothing but farce-eyewash. Obama says India is interested in peace in Pakistan when he hardly needs any more evidence that India is sponsoring terrorism in Balochistan and trying to take control of areas in Afghanistan along the Pakistan border. The US role is duplicitous as well. The United States has deployed a large number of Blackwater and other security personnel to keep the province bleeding.


Our leadership has to come out with a workable solution to drone attacks failing which it should get ready to face people's anger. It must take into consideration that the Americans would not hesitate to leave us alone the moment their objectives are achieved. In our case the list of US betrayal is very long. Compelling ground realities call for a decision in the best national interest. Will our sitting leadership take that decision without wasting any further time is a million-dollar question.

 

Mr. Bokhari is the editor of The Nation. This is an edited version of a report first published by The Nation. Reach Mr. Bokhari at salimbokhari@hotmail.com

 

 

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Fwd: It's Official - The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December



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Description: http://biggovernment.com/files/2010/11/locked-computer.jpgJust this past Friday, we warned you that a Federal Communications Commission (FCC) December Internet power grab was probably coming.

Well, we now know that it is – and it may be even worse than we thought.

Details have been sketchy, and successive reports often contradictory, but what follows is what seems to be looming over us in December.  (We will know for sure on Wednesday, November 24 – if the FCC maintains its current December 15 meeting date.)

FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski appears to be preparing to dramatically increase the FCC's regulatory role over the Internet (in TWO ways; more on that later).

He is doing so without the necessary Congressional authority – which he himself acknowledges he doesn't have.  And he is doing so by torturing and twisting the regulatory language he is drafting – so as to keep this extraordinary dictatorial seizure within the current Title I confines.

The latter is for The Chairman merely an optical effort.  If he can feign the appearance of remaining within Title I, he avoids Reclassification to Title II – against which many of us have long been rightly fighting.  He will then portray his fealty to Title I as testament to the alleged "moderation" of his (un)modest proposal.

This will be a totally bogus assertion, but he will make it – and the media will in parrot-esque fashion repeat it.  The Chairman should bring crackers to the press conference.

Free Press and the Media Marxists – who have long cried for Title II Reclassification – will on cue rail against The Chairman's "sell-out."  This will further "bolster" his claim that he has found the magical, mystical Third Way – winding a path between the leftist Open Internet absolutists and the evil telecom companies.

The Chairman should also bring nuts to the press conference – in case Free Press & Co. show up.

(An aside: How are the telecom companies "evil" – when they have invested hundreds of dollars in building the Internet infrastructure?  Which has resulted in the free speech, free market Web Xanadu we consumers all currently enjoy.  Free Press and the Media Marxists haven't invested a dime – yet they somehow successfully lay claim to the mantle of "consumer advocates.")

Of course, this attempted sleight of regulatory hand does not get The Chairman past one glaring problem – the D.C. Circuit Court has already unanimously ruled that the FCC doesn't have the authority to regulate the Internet under Title I – at least as far as enforcing Network Neutrality is concerned.  (Which is why Free Press & Co. have been clamoring for Title II Reclassification.)

And Net Neutrality is why The Chairman has engaged in – and forced us all to endure- this one year-plus kabuki dance.  Testimonium – The Chairman now looks poised to have the FCC again attempt to enforce Net Neutrality – under his now stretched-beyond-all-recognition Title I.  What a short, selective memory he has.

And most economically destructive of all – it appears The Chairman will try to impose Net Neutrality not just on wired broadband Internet service – but on wireless "smart phones" as well.

This would be a titanic overreach by The Chairman – and an immense blow to the economy.  The uncertainty caused just by The Chairman's prolonged flirtation with the Media Marxists and their ridiculous Internet notions has already cost us billions of dollars in private sector Web investment.

The cost in investment dollars and jobs lost when Net Neutrality is actually imposed will be cataclysmic.

These aren't the fake "saved or created" jobs of the alleged "stimulus" – these are very real jobs denied or destroyed by the ridiculous and ridiculously damaging Net Neutrality.  Imposed by an FCC and its Chairman who know in advance that they do not have the authority to do so.

What will follow will be years of litigation forced upon us by The Chairman – to undo what he knew beforehand he didn't have the authority to do.

What will follow will be years of diminished and diminishing Web capacity, caused by an absurd policy wrongfully jammed down our throats by a dictatorial, rogue Executive Branch Commission.

What will follow will be years of stagnant or declining job growth, as investment capital rightly flees a regulation-constricted Internet which is no longer amenable to free market success.

What will follow this essay may very well determine the free market, free speech future of the Internet – are you ready to place some calls and send some emails and faxes to protest this preposterous policy proposal and demand that it never be enacted?

Stay tuned – we will soon tell you how you can be a part of the preventative solution.

 

 

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I'm Thankful for ____ in Gov't

While there are tons of things for which we're thankful in government, there are also things that need some fixing. Often times, people complain instead of working on a solution. Last week we had over 100 comments on suggestions for fixing TSA's current issues, so we thought: Why not take a stab at helping out another gov't program? You guessed it...the DMV. Got suggestions? Share them!

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