Monday, April 25, 2011

Re: Wringing-the-Neck of Empty Ritual.

Mark: Tell that to J. Ashley. He's holding up Belgium as the ideal
of the world, and Jonathan is an out-and-out anarchist. — J. A. A. —
>
On Apr 24, 11:37 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is no "anarchy in Belgium:
> *an·ar·chy*/ˈanərkē/Noun
> 1. A state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.
> 2. Absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as
> a political ideal.
>
> It is not history, it is current events.
>
> If you are writing a constitution you should have known this. You should
> also know that absolute Democracy, absolute Communism and Socialism are for
> the most part identical in practice (if it were possible)
>
> To say we need more Democracy as you often do is the same as saying we need
> more Communism and or Socialism....
>
> Just how ignorant are you ??
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:02 PM, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
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> > Mark:  Please find yourself a history buff.  I'm not the least
> > interested in anarchy, in Belgium or anywhere!  — J. A. A. —
>
> > On Apr 22, 4:33 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > And it still functions without the lawmakers.... Go figure.
>
> > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Jonathan Ashley <
>
> > > jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> wrote:
> > > >  John,
>
> > > > "In terms of comparative social spending on welfare-related programs as
> > a
> > > > percentage of the gross domestic product (GDP), Denmark ranks first,
> > > > spending more than 29 percent of GDP on its welfare-related programs.
> > Next
> > > > is Sweden (nearly 29 percent), followed by France, Germany, Belgium,
> > > > Switzerland, Austria, and Finland. The United Kingdom ranks in the
> > middle of
> > > > the pack in 13th place (nearly 22 percent of GDP). The United States
> > ranks
> > > > near the bottom, in 26th place (out of 29), spending less than 15
> > percent of
> > > > its GDP on social welfare programs. The United States ranks just ahead
> > of
> > > > Ireland, Mexico, and South Korea."
>
> > > >http://pagerankstudio.com/Blog/2011/03/what-is-welfare-state/
>
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > On 04/22/2011 08:41 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > > > On average, yes they are!  Few in Belgium look to government for
> > > > handouts.  In the USA, close to 45% want a government handout.
> > > > Anything over 5% is excessive.  But that's why I've written my New
> > > > Constitution—to get government out of the hand-out, pull-the-strings
> > > > business!   —  John A. Armistead —  Patriot
>
> > > >   On Apr 21, 9:56 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <
> > jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >  So, you're saying the People of Belgium are better People than those
> > in
> > > > the United States?
>
> > > >  J. Ashley:  Run your experiments in Belgium, then!  The USA would be
> > > > in civil war...   � J. A. A. �
> > > > On Apr 21, 12:04 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <
> > jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >  John,
>
> > > >    It is highly doubtful that we would return to the stone age without
> > > > government. Belgium has been without a national government for more
> > than
> > > > 313 days and "Belgians say the absence of a government doesn't make
> > much
> > > > of a difference in their daily lives."
>
> > > >    On 04/20/2011 08:42 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > > >    Jonathan:  You are showing some smarts there!  Since I am an untra-
> > > > conservative capitalist, I don't like being... "left" of anyone,
> > > > because that would seem to make me... a God-damned liberal.  I
> > > > deliberately avoided using the "L" word, because I am the exact
> > > > opposite.  If your ego considers being an anarchist more conservative
> > > > than me, consider this: The USA would return to the 'stone ages'
> > > > within one month of there being no government(s).  So, your "ideal" of
> > > > no taxation and no government won't benefit a soul on Earth.  Is
> > > > having you "get real" too much to ask?  ï¿½  J. A. Armistead �
> >  Patriot
> > > > On Apr 20, 12:50 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <
> > jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >  John,
> > > > Since anarchy is absence of government, how can one be "right" of
> > > > anarchy? (I don't actually expect an answer, as you NEVER answer
> > > > questions posed to you.)
> > > > On 04/20/2011 01:54 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > > >  Jonathan:  For you, anything 'right' of anarchy is socialist.  I
> > > > suggest you write your one paragraph constitution banning government.
> > > > Unless you are from the stone ages, you won't survive very long on
> > > > your own.  ï¿½  J. A. A. �
> > > > On Apr 18, 11:53 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <
> > jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >  But John, you're the one who has written a socialist constitution.
> > > > On 04/18/2011 08:31 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > > >  Jonathan:  Mainly he's done that by attacking the capitalist system
> > > > that made this country great; and by supposing that government should
> > > > control everything (with him in charge).  The fact that you even ask
> > > > that question confirms my initial gut reaction that you are a
> > > > socialist-communist, like 95% of Democrats are.  The remaining 5% are
> > > > just stupid.  You're in both of those groups.  ï¿½ J. A. Armistead �
> > > > Patriot
> > > > On Apr 18, 3:03 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <
> > jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >  John,
> > > > That you own stock in a company that routinely downgrades websites
> > based
> > > > on "link relevance" over "content relevance" says much about your
> > > > credibility regarding the understanding of what freedom of expression
> > means.
> > > > That you believe Obama "has caused more economic and social harm to the
> > > > USA than any other person who ever lived, including Hitler" seems
> > > > ludicrous. Just how has he (as an individual) been able to pull off
> > this
> > > > tremendous task?
> > > > On 04/17/2011 09:05 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > > >  Dear Mark:  I own Google stock.  It's an American multinational
> > > > Corporation that's headquartered in Mountain View, California.  Google
> > > > World shows the new complex quite well.  In many ways you are very
> > > > naive.  Your obvious desire to protect Barack Obama's neck from the
> > > > noose is tantamount to looking-the-other-way to those who commit
> > > > TREASON every day of their existence.  Would you put on moderation
> > > > someone who proposes that Libyan President Kadafi should be killed?
> > > > Do you suppose it is Google's obligation to protect those who kill
> > > > their citizens?  Hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans have
> > > > committed suicide because of the bad economy and the lack of jobs
> > > > resulting from Obama's socialist-capitalist policies.  He has caused
> > > > more economic and social harm to the USA than any other person who
> > > > ever lived, including Hitler.
> > > > Treason is a recognized capital offense.  Those in our government and
> > > > in our law enforcement who don't press to have that bastard arrested,
> > > > tried and hanged are themselves in violation of the Constitution for
> > > > giving aid and comfort to the enemy.  Keith suggested that you,
> > > > Jonathan and MJ are anxious to read my next "missive".  He's viewed
> > > > you all in a favorable light, before.  As for me, I suspect you are so
> > > > screwed-up in the head that you are both for and against having a
> > > > better government.  That means you have schizophrenia.  Get some couch-
> > > > time, Mark.  You need it!  ï¿½  J. A. Armistead �  Patriot
> > > > On Apr 16, 10:28 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE<markmka...@gmail.com> <
> > markmka...@gmail.com>          wrote:
>
> > > >  Einstein,
> > > > Again, you mistake me for someone that is liable under the present, or
> > > > your future, US Constitution. The message you received is the standard
> > > > message sent to all new or moderated members, get used to it. It
> > > > originates from outside the US and is also not liable under US law.
> > > > Isn't the internet grand when the originating country has the
> > > > responsibility for what is or is not allowed under their law(s).
> > > > On Apr 16, 7:11 pm, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net> <
> > noeinst...@bellsouth.net>          wrote:
>
> > > >  Dear Keith:  I sensed that there was a common thread of "reasoning" in
> > > > those you name. My last missive, as you say, was explaining why Jews
> > > > are causing a lot of problems and expense while seeming to be such
> > > > nice people.  Israel should become a training place for successful
> > > > capitalism.  Only the latter can start to heal the deep wounds Muslims
> > > > feel.
> > > > Today, when I posted: "Can The Donald 'Fix' the Thin Ice that the USA
> > > > is skating on?"  There was a message (Mark's responsibility?) saying
> > > > that moderators must approve what I say.  Of course that in
> > > > UNCONSTITUTIONAL by both the present Constitution, and by my New
> > > > Constitution, which requires that Mark be fired from his job.  If you
> > > > butterfly conservatives are starting to understand what I'm saying,
> > > > then you should like to know that about 85% of my New Constitution has
> > > > now  been copied and pasted for interested citizens to read.  The last
> > > > 15% relates to problems with government which I have batted heads
> > > > with, first hand.  Once people begin showing appreciation for the 85%
> > > > of my non-Stalinesk document, the remainder will become available.
> > > > But NOT on this forum.  The full document will be presented as part of
> > > > a book containing my many essays and detailed rational for why this
> > > > country needs a New Constitution Now.  You guys can help speed things
> > > > along by talking-up my document on the NET.  ï¿½ John A. Armistead �
> > > > Patriot
> > > > On Apr 16, 4:17 pm, Keith In K�ln<keithinta...@gmail.com> <
> > keithinta...@gmail.com>          wrote:
>
> > > >  Hey John!
> > > > I am atwitter with excitement and anticipation!  Jonathan,  Mark  and
> > MJ are
> > > > already chomping at the bit to sling complimentary praise and one of
> > them
> > > > maybe even will write a haiku in your honor!  Sugarshack Literal Truth
> > might
> > > > even
>
> ...
>
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