Jack Kemp
Jack Kemp (not the politician) has been writing since 2004. He is a frequent contributor to American Thinker, Intellectual Conservative and the Birdnow Website where he is the East Coast Editor. He has created articles, blog pieces and graphic political illustrations.
Somewhat of an amateur historian, Jack has also lived fifteen months in Israel.
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From: politicalforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:politicalforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith In Köln
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:46
To: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Laughing your head off in Liberal Land
Uhm......Did Jack write this from the grave??
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com> wrote:
By Jack Kemp
The new tone of civility the liberals are pursuing apparently includes wishing violent death on Sarah Palin. Recently in Missoula, Montana, an otherwise high quality performance of Gilbert and Sullivan's Mikado by the Missoula Children's Theater had the script altered with the approval of the MCT director Curt Olds to call for the beheading of Sarah Palin in the tune "As some Day it May Happen (I've Got a Little List)" and thus singing about her "not being missed," as the Wall St. Journal informs us.
The source of this news was an attendee at the play named Rory Page who poignantly states in a letter to the theater director:
"As a professional you should be ashamed of yourself, the audience should be ashamed of themselves and I am ashamed of myself for not standing up and leaving at that very moment. I would like to see an apology from you not because I want to hinder free-speech but for the hypocrisy this so clearly shows."
Apparently this is what our Bill Ayers-influenced children's educators now believe is the proper subject to teach youngsters to sing along to, not the contemplation of the beheading of some nineteenth century caricatures, but a very real twenty-first century conservative politician. Until Mr. Page took offense, the performance evidently was acceptable in the liberal enclave of Missoula. All this days after the Tucson massacre and not that long after the Virginia Tech shootings -- or the Columbine shootings, for that matter.
I'm sure the wife and family of the late Daniel Pearl, whose death was dramatized in the movie "A Mighty Heart" would also fail to see the humor in this joking about beheading Sarah Palin. And in what way did this performance differ from the Palestinian television show with a Mickey Mouse-like figure urging children to kill Jews for jihad (here and here)?
Any rationalized explanation of the difference between Palestinian television and this Montana Children's Theater performance of the Mikado would be, in fact, an attempt to explain away hatred in the same vein, but with a lower body count used as the spin to convince us that this Mikado was something much more benign. In fact, the Mikado performance in Montana was an early stage cancerous growth and not a benign one.
There is, in fact, a line in that "Little List" song that makes reference to a type of person who we have seen much of recently in liberal circles. The song complains about:
"Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,All centuries but this, and every country but his own"
I could think of a number of people who fit that description, starting with Rep. Jim Moran who went overseas to attack American voters as racists on an Arab television station. As the song, in discussing "apologetic statesmen" in the vaguest of mock names, it concludes with:
"The task of filling up the blanks I'd rather leave to you."
The toned down mischievousness of the original wording allows people of all political persuasions to invoke in their minds the name of their opponents in a light, general manner and not turn a musical performance into a call for a specific person's blood in front of an audience which often includes children and perhaps some adults of weak mind. Thus, the original song avoids a resemblance to a tyrant's staged call for assassination(s).
John Edwards was right. There really are two Americas, but not in the way he meant it. As liberals call for divisiveness of the most bloody kind in a children's theater performance (no, it wasn't mere "fun" but a teaching of what is now socially acceptable in that community), it is necessary to shine "the sun, whose rays are all ablaze," to borrow a line from a different song in the Mikado, on this vile biliousness in order to make its influence wane.
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 | History Repeats ItselfScotty Starnes | January 31, 2011 at 11:30 AM | Tags: Barack Obama, Egypt, Iran, Jimmy Carter, President Carter, President Obama | Categories: Political Issues | URL: http://wp.me/pvnFC-4iv |
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| | DCCC "Targets" 19 GOP House membersScotty Starnes | January 31, 2011 at 12:40 PM | Tags: Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, political rhetoric, violent language, violent left-wing lunatics | Categories: Political Issues | URL: http://wp.me/pvnFC-4iA |
Any violence that happens this week should be blamed on the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. They are "targeting" Republicans and we know how violent left-wing lunatics are. The use of the word "target" is sure to set one of them off.
The Hill reports:
The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has pegged its first GOP targets of the 2012 cycle, launching radio and web ads in the districts of 19 House Republicans this week.
Democrats need to pick up 25 House seats to win back the majority in 2012.
It's the first media salvo of the cycle for the DCCC, predominantly targeting GOP freshmen in Democratic-leaning districts.
The ads hit the new Republican majority in the House for tunnel vision on spending cuts and backing "a partisan plan that costs jobs." Among the targets is Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (R-N.Y.), who hails from a district that voted for President Obama in 2008 and Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) in 2004.
All this violent political rhetoric coming from those on the left. This disturbing language could cause a left-winger to go on another rampage, which judging by our prison system, seems to happen a lot.
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I resent your false slander.
I do not use drugs, and I rarely consume alcohol, as I do not care for it.
I have an occasional half glass of good red wine with fine food at
dinner gatherings, and an occasional beer at social gatherings. I
generally prefer coffee or tea.
Stop the false smear, Keithie Keith.
On 1/30/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are the epitome of hate, smear and lies. We've got a comprehensive,
> long list of wild diatribes, hateful spew and misinformation that you have
> sent out on this board and others Tom!
>
> Do you have a drug addiction too, or was it just with the alcohol that you
> had the problems with??
>
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Your false, hateful, negative, and offensive personal attacks do not
>> pass muster.
>>
>> On 1/30/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hey LilMarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews!
>> >
>> > When I choose to have a drink, will be, "My Choice". Thankfully, I can
>> > enjoy adult libations, and feel pretty good about it. Obviously, you
>> have
>> > some kind of an issue with the consumption of alcohol? Are you an
>> > alcoholic LilTommieTomTomForNews? Is that the reason that you
>> continuously
>> > bring up the fact that on occasion, I have a beer or two?
>> >
>> > I understand. It't not your fault.....It's a disease. That's the
>> > ticket.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Lil' Wingnut Keithie Keith-
>> >>
>> >> You are a hateful moronic bully, and you are wrong yet again, as usual.
>> >>
>> >> Go have another drink.
>> >>
>> >> On 1/30/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Lil' Moonbat Tommie.
>> >> >
>> >> > Not only is it a hateful smear and a lie to say that "right wing fear
>> >> > rhetoric contributes to violence and hatred, as we have seen in
>> Tucson";
>> >> it
>> >> > is also ignorant.....This is the reason that ninety nine percent of
>> this
>> >> > group realizes that you are a Moonbat, and why you are mocked
>> >> unmercifully.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Dickie Dick-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Right wing fear rhetoric indeed contributes to violence and hatred,
>> as
>> >> >> we have seen over and over again, most recently in Tucson.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Qui craint de souffrir, il souffre déjà de ce qu'il craint. ~ La
>> >> Fontaine
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Translation: He who fears suffering is already suffering that which
>> he
>> >> >> fears.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 1/29/11, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >> > You are now being ridiculous. You are supporting a president who
>> >> >> > told
>> >> >> > his followers and disciples to punch them back twice as hard, to
>> >> >> > bring
>> >> a
>> >> >> > gun to the fight, to hit them again and again and you have no
>> problem
>> >> >> > with that and you do find a problem when anyone says the same
>> >> >> > thing
>> >> back
>> >> >> > to you. What I find offensive is to find someone so totally
>> >> unprepared
>> >> >> > and inadequate holding the position he holds and lying to us over
>> and
>> >> >> > over again about what he has accomplished and then to find his
>> >> acolytes
>> >> >> > calling us racists and demagogues and Nazis.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Then you bring up Waco and try to blame that on the right wing
>> when
>> >> it
>> >> >> > was totally the left that caused it. You had your buds in Waco
>> with
>> >> >> > warrants to pick up David Koresh. David Koresh went to Waco every
>> >> week
>> >> >> > on Thursday to pick up supplies. Your buds could have picked him
>> up
>> >> >> > there any Thursday and there would not have been the massacre, the
>> >> >> > slaughter, the kids burned to death but instead your buds waited
>> >> >> > until
>> >> >> > he got back to the ranch and then attacked with full force
>> resulting
>> >> in
>> >> >> > many deaths, the burning of many more - and then you blamed the
>> >> >> > Branch
>> >> >> > Davidians for causing it because they fought back. Totally
>> >> >> > caused
>> >> >> > by
>> >> >> > the left.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The offense is totally on your side. You remind me of those
>> >> >> > little
>> >> boys
>> >> >> > who smack someone and when they hit you back you go running to
>> mommy
>> >> and
>> >> >> > complain they hit you. Spoiled little snot-nosed brats. That is
>> the
>> >> >> > left in just a few words, hiding behind the media and slapping out
>> >> >> > inadequately.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 01/29/2011 09:42 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >> >> >> Dickie Dick-
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Your violent right wing expression is as bad as the Reich wing
>> >> >> >> bumper
>> >> >> >> sticker "Second Amendment solution" slogan used by Michelle
>> >> >> >> Bachmann
>> >> >> >> and Rush Limbaugh, or "protected by Smith and Wesson", etc.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Saying that the Pitbull in Lipstick "smacked your guys around"
>> >> >> >> demonstrates the exact kind of rhetoric that caused Tucon,
>> >> >> >> Columbine,
>> >> >> >> Oklahoma City, Waco, etc.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You and Sarah Palin clearly n eed a lesson in violence control,
>> and
>> >> >> >> you both need to explore your feminine sides.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> To repeat, calling the President of The United States is both
>> >> >> >> offensive and un-American, and I suggest that you cease and
>> desist.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On 1/28/11, dick thompson<rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> See what I mean. It is still true. She smacked your guys
>> >> >> >>> around
>> >> >> >>> REAL good. They have not yet recovered from the WTF idea they
>> >> >> >>> started. Total waste of air is what they are and she showed it
>> >> very
>> >> >> >>> well. Now what are they going to do. They will have trouble
>> >> using
>> >> >> >>> SEIU on her since that crew is under investigation for combining
>> >> with
>> >> >> >>> Hamas and the Muslims. Holder is ducking and dodging trying to
>> >> keep
>> >> >> >>> his head down so he doesn't have to try to explain what is going
>> on
>> >> in
>> >> >> >>> his bailiwick. Zero is sputtering about what he spoke on in
>> >> >> >>> that
>> >> >> >>> lousy
>> >> >> >>> SOTU speech he gave. He is still trying to explain how he
>> expects
>> >> to
>> >> >> >>> save money by keeping the spending at the inflated figures his
>> crew
>> >> is
>> >> >> >>> doing with it. TARP is also under investigation for the lies
>> about
>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> extent it will play in the huge deficit they ran up.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> And way way way back there is Little Tommy News spouting "Small
>> >> Minds,
>> >> >> >>> Petty Thoughts, a Dutch proverb" as if that will help the cause.
>> >> >> >>> Forget it. You are toast and so is your team.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On 01/28/2011 09:00 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >> >> >>>> OK, I will.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> The Pitbull in Lipstick is a laughing stock.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> "Small minds, petty thoughts". Dutch Proverb
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> "Small minds, petty thoughts". Dutch Proverb
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> "Small minds, petty thoughts". Dutch Proverb
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> "Small minds, petty thoughts". Dutch Proverb
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> "Small minds, petty thoughts". Dutch Proverb
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> "Small minds, petty thoughts". Dutch Proverb
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> "Small minds, petty thoughts". Dutch Proverb
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> "Small minds, petty thoughts". Dutch Proverb
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> "Small minds, petty thoughts". Dutch Proverb
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> On 1/28/11, dick thompson<rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>> You can repeat Dutch proverbs all day long but face it, she
>> >> smacked
>> >> >> >>>>> your
>> >> >> >>>>> guys around REAL GOOD there. Bambi's WTF slogan got shown up
>> for
>> >> >> >>>>> the
>> >> >> >>>>> idiocy it is.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> On 01/28/2011 11:21 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>> The Pitbull in Lipstick is a laughing stock.
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> "Small minds, petty thoughts". Dutch Proverb
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> On 1/27/11, dick thompson<rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://video.foxnews.com/v/4512578/sarah-palin-takes-on-/?playlist_id=87485
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
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Canadian Prime Minister Goes to US For Healthcare: Refuses Canada's Socialist Healthcare
http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/02/02/canadian-premier-comes-to-u-s-for-health-care/
Canadian Health Care In Crisis
Free And First-Class — If You Can Wait
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/20/health/main681801.shtml?cmp=EM8705
(AP) A letter from the Moncton Hospital to a New Brunswick heart patient in need of an electrocardiogram said the appointment would be in three months. It added: "If the person named on this computer-generated letter is deceased, please accept our sincere apologies."
The patient wasn't dead, according to the doctor who showed the letter to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. But there are many Canadians who claim the long wait for the test and the frigid formality of the letter are indicative of a health system badly in need of emergency care.
Americans who flock to Canada for cheap flu shots often come away impressed at the free and first-class medical care available to Canadians, rich or poor. But tell that to hospital administrators constantly having to cut staff for lack of funds, or to the mother whose teenager was advised she would have to wait up to three years for surgery to repair a torn knee ligament.
Kline: Canadians flock to Minnesota for health care, Mall of America
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
Lil Wingnut Keithie-
I am glad to see that you admit you were wrong about the health care debate.
I suggest you look at Government health care in Canada, which works quite well.
Wrong, yet again, you are.
> I will give you that there has been a debate in this Nation for years
> regarding health care. Unlike Europeans, the majority of Americans are
> opposed to socialized medicine. Europeans are now realizing that socialized
> medicine is a dismal failure. By example, both Germany and the UK are
> privatizing their socialized medicine programs because, as stated, they are
> dismal failures. The point being, is that the majority of Americans are
> opposed to socialized medicine, and socialism in any form whatsoever. We
> are "do-ers"; movers, shakers. We are a charitable people, but we have no
> tolerance for those who would drain our resources, and take advantage of our
> good will, charity, and free handouts.
>
> The ObamaCare legislation is a boondoggle consisting of government-mandated
> increases in demand, which will in turn create government control over
> prices, and shortages and rationing are inevitable.That is the whole
> purpose of the death panels, and other little bureaucratic boards that is
> within the almost two thousand page piece of legislation. These boards will
> ultimately dictate decisions concerning choice of care, including,
> "End-Of-Life Care".
>
> President Obama promised universal coverage, which won't happen, but what he
> didn't tell us is that his socialized plan could only increase coverage, if
> at all, by reducing access to, choice of and quality of care, and Americans
> as well as corporate America are now beginning to see what is in fact in
> "ObamaCare".
>
> Ms. Pelosi was instrumental in the passage of ObamaCare, in fact, as
> stated, it was Madam Pelosi who rammed this terrible piece of legislation
> down Americans' proverbial throats. The only reason that she was not
> ousted, is because she is from a gerrymandered congressional district in San
> Fransisco, that is made up of Moonbats like you.
> The debate that you reference, has been short and succinct. Hillary Clinton
> was given a nice cold refreshing cup of "STFU" back ten or twelve years ago,
> when she broached the subject. Jimma Carter never got past ground zero
> when he mentioned the topic, and it was clear that last year, an
> overwhelming majority of Americans opposed the Obama Care legislation,
> despite the Speaker of the House successfully attempting to pass a health
> care bill that the Congress had not read or learned of. The Bill's passage
> was done in back room deals, with God only knows what was being promised.
>
> The legislation will never be funded, and it will eventually be repealed.
> As is the American people's will.
>
> With regard to Ms. Pelosi, here are just a few quotes:
>
> *"Bipartisanship is a two-way street...A bill can be bipartisan without
> bipartisan votes. Republicans have left their imprint.." *
>
> Nanc; 2.27.2010
> http://thehill.com/homenews/house/84089-pelosi-gop-has-had-its-day-217-healthcare-votes-in-sight
>
> *"'We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it."*
> **
> Nanc; 1.28.2010
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To&feature=player_embedded
>
> *"(The Slaughter Rule is) more insider and process-oriented than most people
> want to know. But I like it because people don't have to vote on the Senate
> bill".*
>
> Nanc: 3.14.2010
> http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/mary-kate-cary/2010/03/16/deem-and-pass-shows-democrats-healthcare-arrogance-problem.html
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lil Keithie Keith-
>>
>> \
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Conservative hate still abounds By David Paul Brown Posted: 01/27/2011 01:00:00 AM PST Concerning the Tucson shooting, the bomb found in Spokane, Wash., at the Martin Luther King parade, and the many incidents of, or threats of, violence since President Obama has been in office, Anne Landman of Center for Media and Democracy writes the following: "By all accounts, the U.S. is a pretty violent society. At 14.24 deaths per every 100,000 people, the rate of firearm deaths in the U.S. far outstrips that of our economic counterparts. By comparison, the rate of firearm deaths in Europe is just 2.17 per 100,000 people. Video games, rap music, sports, religious tales, movies and TV shows offer a steady stream of messages that violence is a legitimate response to a problem. "Add to this mix political candidates, legislators and "celebriticians" like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin using violent rhetoric and gun metaphors, throw in conservatives' constant portrayal of government as a threat, the difficulties Americans have accessing mental health services and free and wide access to guns, and it's not a big leap to conclude we have a social tinderbox on our hands." As I said two columns ago, some on the left "jumped on the bandwagon" too soon, saying certain people were directly responsible for the tragedy in Tucson. I doubt you can ever prove anyone, who is clearly insane, was prompted by anyone or anything to do violence. However, to deny there's an atmosphere, a daily drumbeat of hate for liberals, President Obama and the government generally, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Advertisement -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is either very naive or disingenuous. *** David Brock, an ex-neoconservative who years ago was hired as a "hatchet man" for the right, had a "Road to Damascus" event several years ago that resulted in his seeing the error of his ways. He's now the CEO of "Media Matters," an organization that daily fact-checks the lies coming from the right wing. On TV's "Hardball" Brock told host Chris Matthews, "Beck burned Nancy Pelosi in effigy on his set. He tried to poison her with a chalice. Weeks later, somebody tried to firebomb Nancy Pelosi's house. That guy's mother went on television and said he gets his ideas from Fox News." It's recorded - Gregory Giusti says to Pelosi after the health care vote: "You have a target on your back and I can accomplish what I want with one bullet. Now he's tried, convicted, and in the sentencing phase his cousin writes in for leniency, it's on our website - that he was slowly drawn into Glenn Beck's world." For the second Beck connection Brock explains: "A liberal foundation in San Francisco was targeted by a gunman, Byron Williams, in June. The shooter gave jailhouse interviews, and we published them, and he says Glenn Beck is this schoolteacher on television and points to specific episodes of the Glenn Beck show that inspired him to do it. On July 18, 2010, Byron Williams was stopped by the California Highway Patrol and engaged in a shootout with law enforcement. He later said he was on his way to murder individuals at the Tides Foundation and ACLU. Williams' mother, Janice, explained her son 'Was upset with the way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items.'" The third Beck connection is Charles Wilson, who was sentenced to a year and a day in prison for threatening Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) with violence in phone calls to her office after she voted for Obama's health care bill. Politico reported Wilson called Murray's office several times saying that she "had a target on her back," and "I want to [expletive] kill you," according to court documents. The day President Obama signed the health care bill the caller told Murray, "I hope somebody kills you, and I hope somebody kills the president. Not only do I say, 'Kill the bill but kill the [expletive] senator.'" Wilson admitted to the FBI that he regularly called Murray and fellow Democratic Senator Maria Cantwell. He also stated he was registered to carry a concealed weapon. "I do pack and I will not blink ... when I'm confronted. It's not a threat, it's a guarantee. Now that you've passed your health care bill, let the violence begin." A relative of Wilson's said in publicly available documents filed in federal court that Wilson's "fears were grown and fostered by Mr. Beck's persuasive personality" and that Wilson's actions occurred because he "was under the spell that Glenn Beck cast." It is clarion clear that the right isn't just saying that government is overly bureaucratic and needs to be truncated, or that perhaps a department needs to be eliminated where there's a redundancy. I would bet conservatives and progressives can agree on that. But the radical right is preaching that the government is the enemy. Hate groups are on the rise and pushing agendas like killing ATF agents. Remember Ruby Ridge? Hence, we witness incidents like a plane crashing into the IRS building in Texas. More: http://www.paradisepost.com/opinion/ci_17208341 On 1/30/11, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:Good example is that you keep referring to the Oklahome bombing as caused by the right wing arguments when the man who did the bombing has stated over and over that he did it because of the attack in Waco, something that was done by Janet Reno and her buds. On 01/30/2011 03:41 PM, Tommy News wrote:Highly Offensive, Again, and not even deserving of a response. Get lost. On 1/30/11, frankg<frankg2@gmail.com> wrote:Tommy, My response was hardly snark filled, it wasn't a diatribe, and it certainly wasn't offensive. You really do have an incredibly thin skin. I've never called you anything other than Tommy, the name you wish to go by on this board. I did assert I've never seen an original thought from you, and I stand by that. It's an opinion.. prove me wrong. You DID respond to the opening post by saying FNC lies yet you never explained how you interpret an interview by Greta as a lie? Dick called Pelosi a liar. That was the point of the thread yet you've never tried to argue against that. Why? Stop your damn whining and make a point for a change. On Jan 30, 12:56 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:Frank- This snark filled diatrabe of yours is not only offensive, it is one of the worst pieces of vile crap that has ever spewed out of your potty mouth. You really are a little jerk, arem't you? Go take a hike, and get lost you prissy self absorbed wing nut. On 1/29/11, frankg<fran...@gmail.com> wrote:Keith, You don't seriously expect an answer, do you? I can't remember the last time, if ever, that I saw Tommy post a complete, original thought. His response to the opening post is typical -- calling FNC liars. Well, it was a flippin interview, by Greta no less. She didn't accuse or try to catch Pelosi in any kind of lie or contradiction. It was a straight up, albeit soft interview. Tommy could have challenged Dick on what points Pelosi was lying on, but he didn't. That would have required watching the interview, applying thought and crafting a response. Instead he used one of his eight or so canned 'you lie, you suck' type responses. On Jan 29, 11:35 am, Keith In Köln<keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:Lil' Tommie, How can you deny that Nanc did in fact ram down the Americans proverbial throats, the ObamaCare socialized medicine legislation, when obviously, the majority of Americans were opposed to the legislation. That is fact, not fiction. It was one of the primary reasons that there was such a massive exodus in the House of Representatives, and a significant gain by Republicans in the Senate. Your denial of the facts, is nothing less than Moonbattery!! KeithInKöln On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:Quite false Sagey. Wrong again. On 1/28/11, Sage2<wisdom...@gmail.com> wrote:On Jan 28, 8:58 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:Put the bottle down, Keithie Keith. FYI: Nancy Pelosi was THE most effective speaker of the house in history,I guess Tommy never heard of John McCormick. Nancy was effective at one thing and one thing only, just like the rest of her demagogue ilk. she went against the majority of Americans and rammed laws down their throats. That is why the demagogues lost the house, Nancy Pelosi's effectiveness. Tommy!?I lost "Nanc", when she said that President Obama had surpassed President Bush's, "Job Creation" record, in nine months, as compared to Bush's eight years in office......Put the crack rock pipe down Nanc, (and yes CW,Irealize that this is a harsh critical metaphor, but come on!!!) On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:01 PM, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net>wrote:Then you deny that Pelosi was on Greta's show? You can't evensupportyour own lying eyes. FAIL!!! Big Time. The funny part is that when you look at the viewers watching the speeches Zero got the lowest ratings ofthe3 (Bambi, Ryan, Bachman). Ryan and Bachman both had more viewers than the president did even on CNN!! On 01/28/2011 10:52 AM, Tommy News wrote:This is from Faux Noise For The Birds and Sheeple! What liars they are, and what a liar Dickie Dick is! On 1/27/11, dick thompson<rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:ehttp://video.foxnews.com/v/4510871/minority-leader-pelosi-responds/-- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options& help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum* Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/><http://www.politicalforum.com/>* It's active and moderated. 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Concerning the Tucson shooting, the bomb found in Spokane, Wash., at
the Martin Luther King parade, and the many incidents of, or threats
of, violence since President Obama has been in office, Anne Landman of
Center for Media and Democracy writes the following: "By all accounts,
the U.S. is a pretty violent society. At 14.24 deaths per every
100,000 people, the rate of firearm deaths in the U.S. far outstrips
that of our economic counterparts. By comparison, the rate of firearm
deaths in Europe is just 2.17 per 100,000 people. Video games, rap
music, sports, religious tales, movies and TV shows offer a steady
stream of messages that violence is a legitimate response to a
problem.
"Add to this mix political candidates, legislators and
"celebriticians" like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin using
violent rhetoric and gun metaphors, throw in conservatives' constant
portrayal of government as a threat, the difficulties Americans have
accessing mental health services and free and wide access to guns, and
it's not a big leap to conclude we have a social tinderbox on our
hands."
As I said two columns ago, some on the left "jumped on the bandwagon"
too soon, saying certain people were directly responsible for the
tragedy in Tucson.
I doubt you can ever prove anyone, who is clearly insane, was prompted
by anyone or anything to do violence. However, to deny there's an
atmosphere, a daily drumbeat of hate for liberals, President Obama and
the government generally,
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is either very naive or disingenuous.
***
David Brock, an ex-neoconservative who years ago was hired as a
"hatchet man" for the right, had a "Road to Damascus" event several
years ago that resulted in his seeing the error of his ways. He's now
the CEO of "Media Matters," an organization that daily fact-checks the
lies coming from the right wing.
On TV's "Hardball" Brock told host Chris Matthews, "Beck burned Nancy
Pelosi in effigy on his set. He tried to poison her with a chalice.
Weeks later, somebody tried to firebomb Nancy Pelosi's house. That
guy's mother went on television and said he gets his ideas from Fox
News."
It's recorded - Gregory Giusti says to Pelosi after the health care vote:
"You have a target on your back and I can accomplish what I want with
one bullet. Now he's tried, convicted, and in the sentencing phase his
cousin writes in for leniency, it's on our website - that he was
slowly drawn into Glenn Beck's world."
For the second Beck connection Brock explains:
"A liberal foundation in San Francisco was targeted by a gunman, Byron
Williams, in June. The shooter gave jailhouse interviews, and we
published them, and he says Glenn Beck is this schoolteacher on
television and points to specific episodes of the Glenn Beck show that
inspired him to do it.
On July 18, 2010, Byron Williams was stopped by the California Highway
Patrol and engaged in a shootout with law enforcement. He later said
he was on his way to murder individuals at the Tides Foundation and
ACLU. Williams' mother, Janice, explained her son 'Was upset with the
way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda
items.'"
The third Beck connection is Charles Wilson, who was sentenced to a
year and a day in prison for threatening Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) with
violence in phone calls to her office after she voted for Obama's
health care bill. Politico reported Wilson called Murray's office
several times saying that she "had a target on her back," and "I want
to [expletive] kill you," according to court documents.
The day President Obama signed the health care bill the caller told
Murray, "I hope somebody kills you, and I hope somebody kills the
president. Not only do I say, 'Kill the bill but kill the [expletive]
senator.'"
Wilson admitted to the FBI that he regularly called Murray and fellow
Democratic Senator Maria Cantwell. He also stated he was registered to
carry a concealed weapon.
"I do pack and I will not blink ... when I'm confronted. It's not a
threat, it's a guarantee. Now that you've passed your health care
bill, let the violence begin."
A relative of Wilson's said in publicly available documents filed in
federal court that Wilson's "fears were grown and fostered by Mr.
Beck's persuasive personality" and that Wilson's actions occurred
because he "was under the spell that Glenn Beck cast."
It is clarion clear that the right isn't just saying that government
is overly bureaucratic and needs to be truncated, or that perhaps a
department needs to be eliminated where there's a redundancy.
I would bet conservatives and progressives can agree on that.
But the radical right is preaching that the government is the enemy.
Hate groups are on the rise and pushing agendas like killing ATF
agents. Remember Ruby Ridge? Hence, we witness incidents like a plane
crashing into the IRS building in Texas.
More:
http://www.paradisepost.com/opinion/ci_17208341
On 1/30/11, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Good example is that you keep referring to the Oklahome bombing as
> caused by the right wing arguments when the man who did the bombing has
> stated over and over that he did it because of the attack in Waco,
> something that was done by Janet Reno and her buds.
>
> On 01/30/2011 03:41 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> Highly Offensive, Again, and not even deserving of a response.
>>
>> Get lost.
>>
>> On 1/30/11, frankg<frankg2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Tommy,
>>>
>>> My response was hardly snark filled, it wasn't a diatribe, and it
>>> certainly wasn't offensive. You really do have an incredibly thin
>>> skin.
>>>
>>> I've never called you anything other than Tommy, the name you wish to
>>> go by on this board. I did assert I've never seen an original thought
>>> from you, and I stand by that. It's an opinion.. prove me wrong. You
>>> DID respond to the opening post by saying FNC lies yet you never
>>> explained how you interpret an interview by Greta as a lie? Dick
>>> called Pelosi a liar. That was the point of the thread yet you've
>>> never tried to argue against that. Why?
>>>
>>> Stop your damn whining and make a point for a change.
>>>
>>> On Jan 30, 12:56 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Frank-
>>>>
>>>> This snark filled diatrabe of yours is not only offensive, it is one
>>>> of the worst pieces of vile crap that has ever spewed out of your
>>>> potty mouth.
>>>> You really are a little jerk, arem't you?
>>>>
>>>> Go take a hike, and get lost you prissy self absorbed wing nut.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/29/11, frankg<fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Keith,
>>>>> You don't seriously expect an answer, do you? I can't remember the
>>>>> last time, if ever, that I saw Tommy post a complete, original
>>>>> thought. His response to the opening post is typical -- calling FNC
>>>>> liars. Well, it was a flippin interview, by Greta no less. She didn't
>>>>> accuse or try to catch Pelosi in any kind of lie or contradiction. It
>>>>> was a straight up, albeit soft interview. Tommy could have challenged
>>>>> Dick on what points Pelosi was lying on, but he didn't. That would
>>>>> have required watching the interview, applying thought and crafting a
>>>>> response. Instead he used one of his eight or so canned 'you lie, you
>>>>> suck' type responses.
>>>>> On Jan 29, 11:35 am, Keith In Köln<keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Lil' Tommie,
>>>>>> How can you deny that Nanc did in fact ram down the Americans
>>>>>> proverbial
>>>>>> throats, the ObamaCare socialized medicine legislation, when
>>>>>> obviously,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> majority of Americans were opposed to the legislation. That is fact,
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> fiction. It was one of the primary reasons that there was such a
>>>>>> massive
>>>>>> exodus in the House of Representatives, and a significant gain by
>>>>>> Republicans in the Senate.
>>>>>> Your denial of the facts, is nothing less than Moonbattery!!
>>>>>> KeithInKöln
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Quite false Sagey.
>>>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>>>> On 1/28/11, Sage2<wisdom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jan 28, 8:58 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Put the bottle down, Keithie Keith.
>>>>>>>>> FYI: Nancy Pelosi was THE most effective speaker of the house in
>>>>>>>>> history,
>>>>>>>> I guess Tommy never heard of John McCormick. Nancy was
>>>>>>>> effective at one thing and one thing only, just like the rest of
>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>> demagogue ilk. she went against the majority of Americans and
>>>>>>>> rammed
>>>>>>>> laws down their throats.
>>>>>>>> That is why the demagogues lost the house, Nancy Pelosi's
>>>>>>>> effectiveness. Tommy!?
>>>>>>>>>> I lost "Nanc", when she said that President Obama had surpassed
>>>>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>>>> Bush's, "Job Creation" record, in nine months, as compared to
>>>>>>>>>> Bush's
>>>>>>>>>> eight
>>>>>>>>>> years in office......Put the crack rock pipe down Nanc, (and
>>>>>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>>>>> CW,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> realize that this is a harsh critical metaphor, but come on!!!)
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:01 PM, dick thompson
>>>>>>>>>> <rhomp2...@earthlink.net>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Then you deny that Pelosi was on Greta's show? You can't even
>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> own lying eyes. FAIL!!! Big Time. The funny part is that
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>> at the viewers watching the speeches Zero got the lowest
>>>>>>>>>>> ratings
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 3
>>>>>>>>>>> (Bambi, Ryan, Bachman). Ryan and Bachman both had more viewers
>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> president did even on CNN!!
>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/28/2011 10:52 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is from Faux Noise For The Birds and Sheeple!
>>>>>>>>>>>> What liars they are, and what a liar Dickie Dick is!
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/27/11, dick thompson<rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>> http://video.foxnews.com/v/4510871/minority-leader-pelosi-responds/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>> Tommy
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