Thursday, January 12, 2012

Re: Gingrich Cancels Event in Face of Ron Paul Protesters

Since Ron Paul may end up with the second highest number of delegates, seats on the platform committee, a prime time speech, and is unlike all the other candidates creating an a caucus inside the party in every state, he IS history Keith, just not in the way you mean.

Xxo



On Thursday, January 12, 2012, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your version of Gingrich's record is right out of the Marxist
> playbook
> ---
> it's not my record ... it's the truth, regardless of how much it hurts
> you
>
> Gingrich has been and will continue to be political history.
>
> On Jan 11, 9:31 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The 84 ethics charges were brought by a partisan, Democratic controlled
>> ethics committee, and eventually reduced down to one charge.  $300k was a
>> cheap price to shut the witch hunt down.
>>
>> Gingrich brought the Contract with America,  balanced the budget for four
>> years, and was able to reach across the aisle.  Gingrich has continuosuly
>> looked for conservative solutions to issues facing the United States,
>> which were not those same, old, tired, Marxist inspired attempts brought by
>> the Democrats.
>>
>> Your version of Gingrich's record is right out of the Marxist playbook
>> there PlainOl, which speaks volumes.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:51 PM, plainolamerican
>> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Gingrich's Super Pac's gotta whole lotta sumthin sumthin for
>> > Paul and Romney both,
>> > ---
>> > the announcement that he's dropping out of the race
>>
>> >  and we will see who ends up in "disgrace".
>> > ---
>> > Newt started his campaign in disgrace and will end in disgrace.
>>
>> > Eighty-four ethics charges were filed against Gingrich during his term
>> > as speaker. After extensive investigation and negotiation by the House
>> > Ethics Committee, Gingrich was sanctioned $300,000 by a 395–28 House
>> > vote. It was the first time in history a speaker was disciplined for
>> > ethical wrongdoing.
>>
>> > Republicans lost five seats in the House in the 1998 elections—the
>> > worst midterm performance in 64 years for a party that didn't hold the
>> > presidency. Polls showed that Gingrich and the Republican Party's
>> > attempt to remove President Clinton from office was deeply unpopular
>> > among voters.[71] Gingrich suffered much of the blame for the election
>> > loss. Facing a rebellion in the Republican caucus, he announced on
>> > November 5, 1998, that he would not only stand down as Speaker, but
>> > would leave the House as well.
>>
>> > Gingrich has stated that he has developed a greater appreciation for
>> > the role of faith in public life following his conversion, and
>> > believes that the United States has become too secular.
>>
>> > On Jan 11, 3:03 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Uhm?  Where is the disgrace part of all of this?  Gingrich is running for
>> > > President of the United States, and was leading in the polls, until such
>> > > time as Paul and Romney broke the 11th Commandment, and started trashing
>> > > Gingrich with half truths and outright lies.
>>
>> > > The shoe is going to fall on the other foot come these next
>> > > two weeks......Gingrich's Super Pac's gotta whole lotta sumthin sumthin
>> > for
>> > > Paul and Romney both, and we will see who ends up in "disgrace".
>>
>> > > I genuinely regret that the Republican Party has sunk to this, but we
>> > > have crackpot Ron Paul supporters and Crazy Uncle Ron himself to blame.
>>
>> > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:48 PM, plainolamerican
>> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > > > not really ...
>> > > > RP is a current Member of the U.S. House of Representatives and serves
>> > > > on the House Committees on Foreign Affairs and Financial Services, and
>> > > > on the Joint Economic Committee, as well as chairman of the Financial
>> > > > Services Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology.
>>
>> > > > Newt has been out of the government for over 12 years living in
>> > > > disgrace.
>>
>> > > > On Jan 10, 2:10 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > As is Paul,  for equally good reason.
>>
>> > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM, plainolamerican
>> > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > Newt is political history for a good reason.
>>
>> > > > > > On Jan 9, 10:28 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > Typical of crackpot Ron Paul supporters:
>>
>> > > > > > > MANCHESTER, N.H. –Republican presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich
>> > > > canceled
>> > > > > > an
>> > > > > > > appearance at his New Hampshire campaign headquarters after
>> > > > protesters
>> > > > > > > swarmed the entrance.
>>
>> > > > > > > About 40 protesters showed up Monday evening carrying placards
>> > > > reading
>> > > > > > "Ron
>> > > > > > > Paul" and "Occupy

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Re: Gingrich Cancels Event in Face of Ron Paul Protesters

Your version of Gingrich's record is right out of the Marxist
playbook
---
it's not my record ... it's the truth, regardless of how much it hurts
you

Gingrich has been and will continue to be political history.

On Jan 11, 9:31 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The 84 ethics charges were brought by a partisan, Democratic controlled
> ethics committee, and eventually reduced down to one charge.  $300k was a
> cheap price to shut the witch hunt down.
>
> Gingrich brought the Contract with America,  balanced the budget for four
> years, and was able to reach across the aisle.  Gingrich has continuosuly
> looked for conservative solutions to issues facing the United States,
> which were not those same, old, tired, Marxist inspired attempts brought by
> the Democrats.
>
> Your version of Gingrich's record is right out of the Marxist playbook
> there PlainOl, which speaks volumes.
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:51 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Gingrich's Super Pac's gotta whole lotta sumthin sumthin for
> > Paul and Romney both,
> > ---
> > the announcement that he's dropping out of the race
>
> >  and we will see who ends up in "disgrace".
> > ---
> > Newt started his campaign in disgrace and will end in disgrace.
>
> > Eighty-four ethics charges were filed against Gingrich during his term
> > as speaker. After extensive investigation and negotiation by the House
> > Ethics Committee, Gingrich was sanctioned $300,000 by a 395–28 House
> > vote. It was the first time in history a speaker was disciplined for
> > ethical wrongdoing.
>
> > Republicans lost five seats in the House in the 1998 elections—the
> > worst midterm performance in 64 years for a party that didn't hold the
> > presidency. Polls showed that Gingrich and the Republican Party's
> > attempt to remove President Clinton from office was deeply unpopular
> > among voters.[71] Gingrich suffered much of the blame for the election
> > loss. Facing a rebellion in the Republican caucus, he announced on
> > November 5, 1998, that he would not only stand down as Speaker, but
> > would leave the House as well.
>
> > Gingrich has stated that he has developed a greater appreciation for
> > the role of faith in public life following his conversion, and
> > believes that the United States has become too secular.
>
> > On Jan 11, 3:03 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Uhm?  Where is the disgrace part of all of this?  Gingrich is running for
> > > President of the United States, and was leading in the polls, until such
> > > time as Paul and Romney broke the 11th Commandment, and started trashing
> > > Gingrich with half truths and outright lies.
>
> > > The shoe is going to fall on the other foot come these next
> > > two weeks......Gingrich's Super Pac's gotta whole lotta sumthin sumthin
> > for
> > > Paul and Romney both, and we will see who ends up in "disgrace".
>
> > > I genuinely regret that the Republican Party has sunk to this, but we
> > > have crackpot Ron Paul supporters and Crazy Uncle Ron himself to blame.
>
> > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:48 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > not really ...
> > > > RP is a current Member of the U.S. House of Representatives and serves
> > > > on the House Committees on Foreign Affairs and Financial Services, and
> > > > on the Joint Economic Committee, as well as chairman of the Financial
> > > > Services Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology.
>
> > > > Newt has been out of the government for over 12 years living in
> > > > disgrace.
>
> > > > On Jan 10, 2:10 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > As is Paul,  for equally good reason.
>
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM, plainolamerican
> > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > Newt is political history for a good reason.
>
> > > > > > On Jan 9, 10:28 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Typical of crackpot Ron Paul supporters:
>
> > > > > > > MANCHESTER, N.H. –Republican presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich
> > > > canceled
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > appearance at his New Hampshire campaign headquarters after
> > > > protesters
> > > > > > > swarmed the entrance.
>
> > > > > > > About 40 protesters showed up Monday evening carrying placards
> > > > reading
> > > > > > "Ron
> > > > > > > Paul" and "Occupy." One played speeches by presidential
> > candidate Ron
> > > > > > Paul
> > > > > > > from a loud speaker.
>
> > > > > > > Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond says the former House Speaker's
> > > >  private
> > > > > > > security detail decided to cancel the event because of security
> > > > concerns
> > > > > > > regarding the entrance and exit to the building.
>
> > > > > > > About 75 supporters and volunteers had crammed into the
> > Manchester
> > > > office
> > > > > > > to see Gingrich the night before the New Hampshire primary. The
> > > > Gingrich
> > > > > > > campaign volunteered to transport them to his next event Monday
> > > > night,
> > > > > > set
> > > > > > > at a bar in Concord, N.H., to watch a college football game.
>
> > > > > > > Read more:
>
> >http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/09/gingrich-cancels-event-in-.
> > > > ..
>
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Re: So Misunderstood.....Ron Paul Continues Assault On The Media

On Tuesday, Revolution PAC, a super PAC supporting Paul's candidacy,
called
on CNN to remove Bash from covering the campaign.
---
as they should ... she's another jew who is flagrantly anti-RP.
Bash said during a CNN report that she was worried that the Ron Paul
campaign continuing into the summer, and that he could "hurt whomever
the Republican nominee is." Revolution PAC alleged this showed bias
against Paul.

Bash's father is a producer for the jewish network ABC and her husband
is Jeremy B. Bash, the Chief of Staff to Leon Panetta, the Secretary
of Defense.

some don't forget

On Jan 12, 7:34 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Ron Paul continues assault on the media*
> **
> Dyland Stableford
> 01.11.2011
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/ron-paul-continues-assault-media-...
>
> Fresh off his second place finish in the New Hampshire primary, Ron Paul
> still found reasons to criticize the media's coverage of his presidential
> campaign.
>
> "You know, it's pretty amazing how sometimes if you're in second place,
> they talk about the first and the third place," Paul told supporters at a
> campaign stop in West Columbia, S.C. on Wednesday. "But last night was a
> little different--they had a little harder time avoiding the real
> conversation."
>
> And during another speech in New Hampshire late Tuesday, the 76-year-old
> Texas Republican zinged the media even more.
>
> "There was one other acknowledgment I wanted to make," Paul said after
> thanking his family and assorted campaign staffers. "I wanted to thank the
> Union Leader for not endorsing me."
>
> He continued:
>
> We don't always get the coverage or the interest shown on what--what is
> going on, because if they did, they wouldn't--they wouldn't be ignoring so
> much of what we're doing. But, you know, I find it sort of fascinating when
> they finally get around--and this is different people, it could be in the
> media, could be our opponents, or whatever--but I sort of have to chuckle
> when they describe you and me as being "dangerous." That's one thing they
> are telling the truth, because we are dangerous to the status quo of this
> country.
>
> The media hasn't exactly been ignoring Paul. On Sunday, Paul was forced to cut
> a campaign visit to a New Hampshire diner short after a mob of more than
> 100 reporters descended on the breakfast stop.
>
> "We ask the press, at all upcoming events over the next day and a half, to
> be respectful of both Dr. Paul and of New Hampshire voters, who are
> entitled to examine their candidates in a safe and responsible atmosphere,"
> Jesse Benton, Paul's campaign manager, said in a statement.
>
> Later the same day, CNN's Dana Bash asked Paul about cutting out early from
> the morning's event. Paul blamed the press, and walked off, cutting the
> interview with CNN short. "This is junk," Benton said. "We're stopping."
>
> On Tuesday, Revolution PAC, a super PAC supporting Paul's candidacy, called
> on CNN to remove Bash from covering the campaign.
>
>  CrazyUncleRon.1.jpg
> 36KViewDownload

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They’ve already built the Obama Presidential Library…



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They've already built the Obama Presidential Library…

by Steve

Yup, That about sums it up.

Can you imagine.....

...and its already full of everything he knows.

~Steve~       H/T   Jean

Steve | January 12, 2012 at 2:42 am | Tags: Schmucks | Categories: 2012 Election, Idiots | URL: http://wp.me/pKuKY-bMC

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Americans cheered Gen. Patton when he urinated on the enemy



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Americans cheered Gen. Patton when he urinated on the enemy

by Dr. Eowyn

When Patton urinated on the enemy they cheered him

By Robert K. Wilcox

(Wilcox is my friend and the author of Target: Patton: The Plot to Assassinate General George S. Patton. ~Eowyn)

The last soldier I heard of urinating on the enemy was Gen. George S. Patton. Should the general, who, as much as any other, was responsible for defeating the Nazis, have been driven from the military for such and act? You'd think so from the hysteric response building in the mainstream and Left-leaning press to a video allegedly showing marines urinating on dead Taliban fighters. Presuming it's authentic, such reaction is absurd.

We send these young men out to kill and maim their enemy. That means snuffing out their life, with all the heartbreak and tragedy involved. They usually do this with bullets that rip and tear; or larger projectiles like grenades, artillery shells, or air-dropped bombs which can shred or disintegrate a body. Often fire is involved. Is urinating on a dead body worse?

Yet as I write I can feel the hope and purpose in a headline like AOL-Huffington Post's, "Outrage over Purported Marine Video: A shocking video that allegedly shows American soldiers performing a 'disgusting' act sparks a US Marine Corps investigation."  It's already tagged under "atrocities" and "war crimes." What the headline writers are really saying is, "Oh please, please, another Mai Lai Massacre type scandal like in Vietnam. Well, we know it's not going to be that big, but we can again throw bad light on the US military, which we basically hate and fear and are mad at for doing all the bad things they do."

Of course they've gone to the Council on American-Islamic Relations for commit. As if they didn't know they'd get a condemnation. But did they balance it with someone at war with the Taliban? Not a chance. And the statement says, "The video shows behavior…totally unbecoming of American military personnel and that would ultimately endanger other soldiers and civilians."

It's so predictable, petty, and blown out of proportion by a media that largely knows nothing of the battlefield and why a crude but ultimately innocuous act like this might happen. What do they expect in war? Tea and crumpets and the Marquess of Queensbury rules? War is hell. Most of those fighting it are young, usually 18 to 22. They are inexperienced. They are sent to deserts and other uninhabitable places with stinging insects, maddening heat and sanitary conditions the Left would be screaming was child abuse. They forge a bond with each other few peacetime friendships can ever hope to equal. They have to. It's the only way to get through. And some of them, if not more, see that bonded friend killed or mutilated as only war can do it.

No one who has not gone through it will understand the depth of a combat relationship. There are no phonies in a firefight; no pretense of who one is. You can't cover up. Combat soldiers get to know each other very well. That breeds the bond – that and the dire situation combatants share. And when that bond is ended in the most brutal way, by the death or maiming of a buddy in the bond, pissing on the bastard who represents that end is small payback for the tragic loss and what else has been commonly endured.

Is that what happened in the video in question? We don't know at this point. It's possible. But even if not, what's on the video isn't an atrocity or war crime. It's a logical rarity by young men in harms way against what they know to be the threat that can snuff any one of them or their buddies if the tables were turned. How quick we forget the blood curdling screams of Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl. Are urinations on lifeless bodies anything near that?

Patton urinating into the Rhine

Gen. Patton did his public urinating not on a dead body but into the enemy's most famous river, The Rhine. His Third Army was the first Allied army to cross it and take the war on the ground past that last German barrier. A photographer caught the act as Patton stood in the middle of a pontoon bridge and directed his stream defiantly into the enemy's larger one - like a dog marking its territory. War is a dirty business, with minimum rules for the living, notably the Geneva Convention, prisoner of war dictates the Taliban, by the way, does not recognize. But as repugnant as they may be to some, there are no rules for the dead, for that is the point of war.

Pile them up, let them rot, piss on them. Like it or not, it's what happens in such a nasty business. Don't make more of it than what can be expected when young men are sent to kill others.

Source of pic of Patton urinating into the Rhine:

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/EasternGermany/Buchenwald/GeneralPatton.html

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Fwd: Ron Paul Receives Major Evangelical Endorsement from Dr. James Linzey, President of Military Bible Association



Ron Paul Receives Major Evangelical Endorsement from Dr. James Linzey, President of Military Bible Association

PHILADELPHIA, Jan. 12, 2012 /Christian Newswire/ -- Today, Republican Presidential Candidate Ron Paul received a major endorsement from Evangelical leader Dr. James Linzey, president and founder of the Military Bible Association.

In a statement to Congressman Paul, Rev. Linzey stated: "Having thoroughly examined your political philosophy and finding that your platform is 100% in line with the Constitution of the United States of America, and examining your political record to find that you have consistently upheld the Constitution and thereby faithfully represented your constituency, and studying your statement of faith to find that your faith and religious experience is 100% compatible with Evangelical Christianity and Orthodox Christianity, I hereby endorse you for the Office of the President of the United States of America. I wish you Godspeed!"

Dr. Linzey later stated, "Among the six remaining GOP hopefuls, two are evangelical -- Ron Paul and Rick Perry. But the tell-tale sign of being qualified for the presidency is not faith, but loyalty to the Constitution which defends the open expression of faith. Ron Paul seems to be the candidate most loyal to the Constitution according to the records. So when other evangelical leaders endorse GOP contenders of other faiths and traditions, some of whom have received funds from special interest groups, and are not as loyal to the Constitution as is Dr. Paul, one must necessarily ask, 'What is their agenda?' because they certainly are not endorsing the most qualified nor the most evangelical. If evangelicals wish to make faith an issue, then they should take a closer look at Dr. Paul's statement on his web site, 'Let me be very clear here: I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate.'"

For Dr. Linzey, a man of faith who displays a proven record of utmost loyalty to the Constitution is the most qualified for the presidency. In 1980, Linzey walked the precincts in Pasadena, California, for Ronald Reagan while attending Fuller Theological Seminary. In 1984, he volunteered again with the Republican Party, working the telephones to solicit support for Ronald Reagan. At the 2006 winter conference of the Council for National Policy, Linzey was asked to make a bid for Congress as an Independent.

If Governor Mitt Romney wins the Republican nomination, Linzey stated that he would give Governor Romney his full support. "Governor Romney is an excellent debater, but Congressman Paul is a better one from my perspective. He argues from the standpoint of the Constitution, often showing his opponents' positions to be unfounded and unconstitutional," Linzey said.

Linzey served as a military chaplain for nearly 24 years, retiring with an Honorable Discharge. He hosted his own television programs, Operation Freedom, broadcast in Europe, the United States and the Far East. He has travelled the world as an evangelist before founding Military Bible Association.

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    Fwd: New-You Can Still Send Comments On NPS San Gabriel Mtns NRA



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    pwr_sangabriel@nps.gov <mailto:pwr_sangabriel@nps.gov>

    -----E. Send a copy of your comments to your Congressman and both
    Senators. Just ask for the staff person who handles Natural
    Resources. Ask for his or her e-mail address.

    -----F. Send a copy of your comments to American Land Rights at
    ccushman@pacifier.com <mailto:ccushman@pacifier.com>
     or alra@pacifier.com <mailto:alra@pacifier.com>

    Why should you make these calls and send these comments?

    No matter where you live, the Obama Administration has large scale
    land grab plans covering much of the United States. The Obama
    Administration is looking to control both private land and add
    controls to Federal lands. By defeating this gigantic proposal, you
    will help fend off the land grabbers who want to expand Federal
    control in your area.

    All land rights activist must work together. You cannot expect to
    help yourself from others if you fail to do simple things that can
    help others who are facing threats. All of us must join together to
    stop these kinds of land grabs anywhere they occur in the US.

    -----Here are some of the reasons you should oppose the new San
    Gabriel Mountains National Recreation Area proposal:

    -----1. The proposed new San Gabriel Mountains National Recreation
    Area and the Rim of the Valley National Recreation Area areas are
    likely to cost over $7 billion. That could be grossly understated.
    The funding
    required would detract from existing National Parks that are already
    strapped for funds for basic health, safety and visitor services.

    The Park Service plans to carry out their grandiose land acquisition
    and regulatory scheme will have an enormous economic impact on
    California. It will become a never-ending money pit with Congress
    having to keep up with public expectations. Lots of land acquisition.

    -----2. The NPS comment period was deliberately set up during the
    Christmas New Years period when people were distracted.

    -----3. Many forms of recreation will but cut off and eliminated.
    Thousands of landowners will lose their land.

    -----4. The only producing Tungsten mine in the United States is in
    the area. No matter what the Park Service says, they are against all
    mining and will seek to eventually put this mine out of business.

    -----5. Billions of dollars in important minerals are in the area and
    will be excluded from exploration and mining, hurting the economy even
    more. Many strategically important minerals are known to be in the
    proposed Park Service NRA. These minerals will no longer be available
    to the country for defense and other purposes.

    There is a World Class Limestone deposit in the San Bernardino
    Mountains. Large deposits of Aluminum are there as well.

    -----6. A large part of the proposed NRA is already managed by the US
    Forest Service. There is no need for an additional National Park
    Service overlay.

    -----7. A huge amount of the area includes cities, towns, homes and
    private land extending all the way down to Orange County from the San
    Gabriel Mountains north of Los Angeles. Thousands of people live in
    the proposed area, are in jeopardy and are not aware of it.

    Go to http://www.nps.gov/pwro/sangabriel
     to see the Park Service announcement and MAP. You will be amazed.

    -----8. There are hundreds of Forest Service permit cabins in the
    proposed area that are likely to be in danger from the National Park
    Service. The Park Service does not allow permit cabins. In other
    areas where the Park Service has taken over Forest Service areas, the
    cabins were forced out.

    -----9. A large part of the proposed San Gabriel Mountains NRA
    overlaps with the proposed RIM OF THE VALLEY NATIONAL RECREATION AREA
    which is an even larger land grab covering all landowners in all the
    valleys surrounding the San Gabriel Mountains, San Bernardo
    Mountains, and the existing Santa Monica Mountains NRA.

    To see a very high quality map, go to www.landrights.org
    <http://www.landrights.org/>

    Scroll down the home page and click where it says Rim of the Valley
    Maps.

    -----10. The San Gabriel Mountains NRA and the Rim of the Valley NRA
    will close existing Forest Service roads as well as many other roads
    currently used by citizens to access the nearby mountains for
    recreation, motorized off highway recreation, dirt road exploring,
    hunting, fishing, camping, floating, mining, ranching and many other
    uses. If the Park Service gets control, these uses will come to a
    halt.

    -----11. The San Gabriel Mountains NRA places the entire Angeles
    National Forest in jeopardy. When you add in the proposed Rim of the
    Valley Study which should come out in the next year, the San
    Bernardino National Forest as well as parts of the Los Padres
    National Forest could be converted to National Park.

    -----12. Skiing at existing ski areas in the Angeles and San
    Bernardino National Forests would likely be placed in doubt. American
    Land Rights had to save the Saddleback Mountain Ski Area in Maine from
    the Park Service.

    -----13. People in California may think they will get something if a
    Park Service National Recreation Area is created. Actually, they will
    lose much of the access and use they currently have to their
    mountains.

    -----14. The Park Service plans to combine this enormous area with
    the proposed Rim of the Valley National Recreation Area (Park)
    covering the rest of the Mountains around Los Angeles.. All of this
    has been planned for years by Joe Edmiston, head of the Santa Monica
    Mountains Conservancy.

    -----15. You must ask your Congressman, Senators and the Park Service
    for a complete Environmental Impact Statement. The Park Service is
    only doing an Environmental Assessment. Why ask for the Environmental
    Impact Statement? Because this recommended new park will impact tens
    of thousands of people and landowners, billions of dollars in
    economic activity and close off hundreds of thousands of acres to
    your use.

    -----16. You may think you will get more recreation. You will
    actually get much less. And your access will be cut off. The Sierra
    Club wants even more including converting most of the new area to
    Wilderness. Then you can't go there.

    -----17. The two new National Recreation Areas will create a huge
    fire hazard. The Park Service will not allow you to clear your brush
    and they will not clear theirs. The result is likely to be a
    disaster.

    -----18. The proposed San Gabriel Mountains NRA overlaps with the
    Proposed Rim of the Valley NRA which would surround the:

    parts of the Santa Monica Mountains;
    the Santa Susanna Mountains;
    the San Gabriel Mountains;
    the Verdugo Mountains;
    the San Rafael Hills;

    Nearly the entire Angeles National Forest, part of the San Bernardino
    NF and adjacent connector areas to the Los Padres National Forests
    will be made part of the Rim of the Valley National Recreation Area
    and change control to the National Park Service.

    -----19. The Rim of the Valley National Recreation Area, which is
    currently in the study process, would study expanding the Santa
    Monica Mountains National Recreation Area by adding a corridor
    encircling large portions of all the mountains surrounding the San
    Fernando Valley, La Crescenta Valley, Santa Clarita Valley, Simi
    Valley and Conejo Valley in California on the North side of Los
    Angeles. This does not include all the new areas proposed in the San
    Gabriel Mountains NRA.

    -----20. The full Rim of the Valley NRA includes part of the Santa
    Monica Mountains, the Santa Susanna Mountains, the San Gabriel
    Mountains, the Verdugo Mountains, the San Rafael Hills, and adjacent
    connector areas to the Los Padres and San Bernardino National
    Forests.

    -----21. The Rim of the Valley study area covers 491,518 acres,
    that's two-thirds the size of Yosemite. It's nearly three and a
    half times the size of the existing Santa Monica Mountains National
    Recreation Area which is 153,750 acres. It will run approximately 300
    miles giving it a huge scope.

    -----22. Will control land use within and adjacent corridors by
    threatening eminent domain (condemnation) of the land. That is how
    they prevent building and lots of other uses. ALRA saved a ski area
    in Maine recently that had been continually threatened with
    condemnation.

    -----23. The combined length of these Rim of the Valley corridors is
    likely to run as much as 300 miles long. The Santa Monica Mountains
    Corridor NRA is only about 40 miles long and is already costing over
    one billion dollars between Park Service and State of California
    expenditures.

    The word Corridor is misleading. By Corridor, the NPS means the
    entire mountain range. The San Gabriel Mountains NRA will be combined
    with the huge Rim of the Valley NRA and take control over all
    recreation and access surrounding the entire LA-Ventura county
    region.

    ----24. *The corridors will be like a series of giant nooses put
    around the necks of the many communities in the encircled areas.*
    Economic and social activities will be greatly inhibited. Access
    people now take for granted will be lost forever. Frankly, the Park
    Service has a record of being a very bad neighbor. Go to
    www.landrights.org <http://www.landrights.org/>
     for several socio-cultural assessments and histories of Park Service
    abuses.

    ----25. There will be a massive increase in regulations controlling
    private and community activities with the encircled areas. The
    combined San Gabriel Mountains National Recreation Area and the giant
    Rim of the Valley National Recreation Area will interdict
    transportation corridors, which will mean new bridges and passageways
    for wildlife corridors throughout the region.

    ----26. The NPS will use the wildlife as an excuse for substantial
    new
    regulatory controls. They'll build bridges for the wildlife over
    the
    freeways but you'll be locked out. For example over 90% of Yosemite
    is now closed off to most of the public. The National Park Service is
    closing campgrounds and parking lots and soon you will have to take a
    bus just to get into the park.

    ----27. It will be hard or impossible to get communication towers and
    other utilities installed in these corridors.

    ----28. Movie and TV companies who use these areas for films will be
    prevented from doing their normal work. The Park Service likes
    naturalness. They don't really like people. They just want enough
    to justify their budget.

    ----29. Creation of the Rim of the Valley National Recreation Area
    including the San Gabriel Mountains NRA could require tougher Class I
    air standards that would have a negative impact on private industry
    throughout the San Fernando Valley and all the other Valley's in
    the area. The economic costs to the local economy will be huge. If
    you like the notion of viewsheds and soundsheds, you love the Rim of
    the Valley Corridor bill.

    ----30. Even though there is very little water, what exists is
    valuable. The Rim of the Valley will give the National Park Service a
    large measure of control over all the high ground around all the
    valleys which are encircled by the Rim of the Valley and San Gabriel
    Mountains NRAs. Historically that means the agency uses that power to
    interdict the goals of local communities and business.

    ----31. The Park Service also seeks to keep communities from allowing
    landowners to use their land by threatening the cities and towns with
    the
    loss of Federal funds of all kinds.

    ----32. The proposed San Gabriel Mountains NRA says it will only buy
    from Willing Sellers. That is a con job. Bait and switch. They get
    you to relax now and then take the Willing Seller provision out of
    the bill at the last minute. Unless the legislation by Congress says
    willing seller only, promises by the Park Service mean nothing. Even
    the legislation can, and is likely to be changed later giving the
    Park Service free reign with eminent domain.

    -----You can go to the Rim of the Valley website and the San Gabriel
    Watershed website and sign up for announcements of the progress of
    the two studies. It is critical that you sign up because there will
    be important meetings and events that you will learn about by being
    on the Park Service e-mail and Snail Mail mailing list. Make sure you
    sign up.

    Rim of the Valley: http://www.nps.gov/pwro/rimofthevalley

    San Gabriel River Study: http://www.nps.gov/pwro/sangabriel

    Make sure you sign up for Park Service releases at both websites.

    Chuck Cushman
    American Land Rights Association
    PO Box 400
    Battle Ground, WA 98604
    (360) 687-3087
    ccushman@pacifier.com <mailto:ccushman@pacifier.com>

    www.landrights.org <http://www.landrights.org/>

    -----Please forward this message as widely as possible. The more
    allies ALRA has the more we are able to help you protect your
    property rights and your community.

    It is important for other groups, individuals and communities to know
    where to go to get help when threatened by the new Obama Federal land
    use control programs.

    If you are not already a member, we hope you decide to join and help
    ALRA help other groups compete in the political process.

    You can join easily by going to www.landrights.org
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    You can go online and just make a small contribution. Even $5 or $10
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    So Misunderstood.....Ron Paul Continues Assault On The Media

    Ron Paul continues assault on the media
     
    Dyland Stableford
    01.11.2011
     
     
    Fresh off his second place finish in the New Hampshire primary, Ron Paul still found reasons to criticize the media's coverage of his presidential campaign.

    "You know, it's pretty amazing how sometimes if you're in second place, they talk about the first and the third place," Paul told supporters at a campaign stop in West Columbia, S.C. on Wednesday. "But last night was a little different--they had a little harder time avoiding the real conversation."

    And during another speech in New Hampshire late Tuesday, the 76-year-old Texas Republican zinged the media even more.

    "There was one other acknowledgment I wanted to make," Paul said after thanking his family and assorted campaign staffers. "I wanted to thank the Union Leader for not endorsing me."

    He continued:

    We don't always get the coverage or the interest shown on what--what is going on, because if they did, they wouldn't--they wouldn't be ignoring so much of what we're doing. But, you know, I find it sort of fascinating when they finally get around--and this is different people, it could be in the media, could be our opponents, or whatever--but I sort of have to chuckle when they describe you and me as being "dangerous." That's one thing they are telling the truth, because we are dangerous to the status quo of this country.

    The media hasn't exactly been ignoring Paul. On Sunday, Paul was forced to cut a campaign visit to a New Hampshire diner short after a mob of more than 100 reporters descended on the breakfast stop.

    "We ask the press, at all upcoming events over the next day and a half, to be respectful of both Dr. Paul and of New Hampshire voters, who are entitled to examine their candidates in a safe and responsible atmosphere," Jesse Benton, Paul's campaign manager, said in a statement.

    Later the same day, CNN's Dana Bash asked Paul about cutting out early from the morning's event. Paul blamed the press, and walked off, cutting the interview with CNN short. "This is junk," Benton said. "We're stopping."

    On Tuesday, Revolution PAC, a super PAC supporting Paul's candidacy, called on CNN to remove Bash from covering the campaign.

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    Marines Piss on Dead Talibastards?

    ?

    New post on Fellowship of the Minds

    Marines Piss on Dead Talibastards?

    by Dave

    Via foxnews.com:

    Video appears to show marines urinating on bodies, sparking military investigation

    Published January 11, 2012

    The U.S. Marine Corps is launching an investigation into a video that recently surfaced online showing what appears to be several Marines in uniform urinating on corpses.

    The video, which started Wednesday morning making the rounds on the Web, shows four men in full Marine combat gear standing over the bodies of what appear to be dead Taliban fighters. They look around before proceeding to urinate over the corpses. One of the men can be heard saying, "Have a great day, buddy."

    According to TMZ, the unnamed person responsible for posting the video included a caption reading, "scout sniper team 4 with 3rd battalion 2nd marines out of camp lejeune peeing on dead talibans," though it wasn't immediately clear if any of that information was accurate.

    The Marine Corps issued a statement immediately after learning of the video, saying a full investigation is under way.

    "While we have not yet verified the origin or authenticity of this video, the actions portrayed are not consistent with our core values and are not indicative of the character of the Marines in our Corps," the statement read.

    -End 

    As the son of a Marine who fought in Korea, I only have one thing to say:

    Piss on them all. :-D

    Semper Fi, Marines.

    -Dave 

    Dave | January 11, 2012 at 8:01 pm | Tags: GWOT, Muslims, political correctness, Taliban, United States, US Marines | Categories: Islam, Military, Terrorism | URL: http://wp.me/pKuKY-bMm

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