Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Rick Santorum’s three primary victories: Finally Hearing from the extremist Republican Core

Finally Hearing from the Republican Core
By DAVID FIRESTONE

Sarah Conard/Reuters
Rick Santorum speaks to supporters at his primary night rally at the
St. Charles Convention Center in St. Charles, Missouri, February 7,
2012.
Rick Santorum's three primary victories last night were the first ones
in this campaign season that made some sense. At last, conservative
voters united behind a candidate who actually resembles the Republican
Party that Americans have come to know in the last three years.

The party that so despises government that it repeatedly tried to shut
it down last year in Congress – or ruin its credit rating – is not
truly represented by Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich. Mr. Gingrich might
enjoy closing Washington's doors out of a sense of pique or
domination, but both men are far too invested in the city's power
structure to shut it down out of a sense of belief.

Mr. Santorum is the only one of the three who can actually appear
heartfelt when asserting, as he did today on Morning Joe, that "the
central issue of the day is government oppressing and taking away our
economic freedoms." For him, as for the true believers who now
dominate his party, this isn't just a cynically crowd-pleasing line at
a debate; he actually subscribes to the notion that the federal
government is stalking its own citizens and mugging them of free
choice, and he has for years.

It was all there in his victory speech last night in a suburb of St.
Louis, which was structured in the classic paranoid style. Whether it
is health care, the bank bailouts, or the environment, he said, an
elitist President Obama deliberately ignored the American people and
imposed an oppressive mandate that impoverished the country of its
liberty.

"We have a president of the United States," he said, "who's someone
who believes he knows better, that we need to accumulate more power in
Washington, D.C., for the elite in our country, to be able to govern
you because you are incapable of liberty, that you are incapable of
freedom. That's what this president believes."

What counts when delivering this kind of nonsense, of course, is
whether you can appear to share the same bone-chilling fear of
government held by so many of the Republican voters in Missouri,
Minnesota and Colorado. Mr. Santorum, unlike his rivals, clearly does.
And he is the best in the field at suggesting that government
authority is particularly noxious because it dares to replace
religious authority.

"When the government gives you rights, unlike when God gives you
rights, the government can take them away," he said. "When government
gives you rights, the government can tell you how to exercise those
rights."

But when the Catholic Church tells its tens of thousands of employees
that they do not have the right to easy access to birth control, that
is simply religious liberty, in his view. The church stands for
freedom of conscience, he said, while Mr. Obama, in requiring access
to contraceptives, "would roll over that and impose his secular values
on the people of this country."

Churches telling people how to live: liberty. Government disagreeing:
oppression. Like his followers, Mr. Santorum sees no contradiction
there.

Mr. Santorum still lacks Mr. Romney's money and organization, but his
fervency may at least have pushed aside one of the two conservative
poseurs, Newt Gingrich. He deserves to become a real threat to Mr.
Romney, because he better represents the extreme strain of his party
that every day alienates a few more Americans who see some value in
the collective effort known as government.

More:
http://loyalopposition.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/finally-hearing-from-the-republican-core/?ref=opinion

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Re: U.S. Embassy in Syria Closes as Violence Flares

This gigantic falure and huge waste of millions of U.S.
dollars was a product of the Bushco war criminal cartel

On 2/8/12, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
> U.S. Embassy in Syria Closes as Violence Flares
>
> BEIRUT, Lebanon — The United States closed its embassy in Syria on
> Monday and withdrew its staff in the face of escalating mayhem for
> which American officials blamed the Syrian government's unbridled
> repression of an 11-month-old uprising.
> A member of the Free Syrian Army stood guard over a demonstration by
> opponents of President Bashar al-Assad's government in Idlib on
> Monday.
>
> The move was another dramatic moment in a week full of them, as the
> confrontation in Syria turned even more violent and more
> unpredictable. Diplomatic efforts have largely collapsed, save for a
> Russian delegation visiting Damascus on Tuesday, and both the Syrian
> government and its opposition have signaled that each believes that
> the grinding conflict will be resolved only through force of arms.
>
> For weeks, Western embassies have reduced their staffs, and on Monday
> Britain also recalled its ambassador for consultations. Echoing a
> cascade of diplomatic invective, the British foreign secretary,
> William Hague, described the mounting violence as yet more evidence
> that President Bashar al-Assad must surrender power.
>
> "This is a doomed regime as well as a murdering regime," he told the
> House of Commons. "There is no way it can recover its credibility
> internationally."
>
> Though the government has pressed forward with a crackdown in the
> suburbs of the capital, Damascus, and in a rugged northern region
> around the town of Idlib, the city of Homs has witnessed the most
> pronounced violence. Opposition groups said government forces again
> shelled the city, despite international condemnations of a similar
> attack on Friday and Saturday that they said killed more than 200
> people.
>
> Another grim toll was reported Monday in the city, Syria's third
> largest. The Local Coordination Committees, an opposition group that
> seeks to document the violence, said government forces killed 47
> people in the hardest-hit neighborhoods, especially Baba Amr and
> Khalidya. The London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights put the
> number at 43. There was no way to independently confirm either number.
>
> "The situation is so miserable," said a 40-year-old man who gave his
> name as Ahmed. "Gunfire is falling like rain, and all the stores are
> closed. We keep hearing unbelievably loud explosions that shake the
> windows every half-hour."
>
> Explosions could be heard over the phone when speaking with residents
> in Homs. Videos smuggled out showed a chaotic scene at a clinic, as
> people rushed past doctors and staff members, shouting "Oh God!" In
> one video, said to document the scene, blood smeared the sidewalk.
> Another showed bloodied corpses.
>
> The government has flatly denied the tolls quoted by opposition
> groups. On Saturday, it said Homs was quiet. State-run news media
> placed blame for the violence Monday on "armed terrorist groups"
> firing mortars within Homs. In a statement, the Interior Ministry said
> that it was seeking "to restore security and stability to Homs," and
> that six members of the security forces and "scores of terrorists" had
> been killed.
>
> Clearly laying the blame on Syria's president, the State Department
> said in a statement that the United States had "suspended operations
> of our embassy in Damascus," and that Ambassador Robert S. Ford and
> all American personnel had left the country. It said the closing
> reflected "serious concerns that our embassy is not protected from
> armed attack."
>
> "The deteriorating security situation that led to the suspension of
> our diplomatic operations makes clear once more the dangerous path
> Assad has chosen and the regime's inability to fully control Syria,"
> said a spokeswoman, Victoria Nuland. American officials said the
> embassy staff had relocated temporarily to neighboring Jordan.
>
> The announcement said Ambassador Ford would "continue his work and
> engagement with the Syrian people as head of our Syria team in
> Washington."
>
> It stopped short of a formal break in diplomatic relations with Syria,
> but was considered a strong signal that Obama administration officials
> believe there is nothing left to talk about with Mr. Assad. Though
> more isolated than at any time in the four decades since Mr. Assad's
> family took power, the government was emboldened by the vetoes of
> Russia and China on Saturday of a United Nations Security Council
> resolution backed by Western and Arab states supporting a plan to end
> the bloodshed. The vetoes appeared to end, for the moment, any
> concerted diplomatic efforts.
>
> Instead, countries traded barbs. Mr. Hague called the vetoes "a
> betrayal of the Syrian people." Russia's foreign minister, Sergey V.
> Lavrov, was scornful of the criticism, saying it was "perhaps on the
> verge of hysterical." In China, a commentary in the Communist Party
> newspaper People's Daily argued that the chaos that followed the
> toppling of governments in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya proved that
> forced leadership changes only made matters worse. "Simply backing one
> side and beating down the other, seemingly helpful, will in fact only
> sow seeds of future disasters," said the article, signed Zhong Sheng,
> an often-used pseudonym that can be read to mean "China's voice."
>
> More:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/world/middleeast/violence-in-syria-continues-after-diplomacy-fails.html?ref=middleeast
>
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> Have a great day,
> Tommy
>
>
>
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U.S. Embassy in Syria Closes as Violence Flares

U.S. Embassy in Syria Closes as Violence Flares

BEIRUT, Lebanon — The United States closed its embassy in Syria on
Monday and withdrew its staff in the face of escalating mayhem for
which American officials blamed the Syrian government's unbridled
repression of an 11-month-old uprising.
A member of the Free Syrian Army stood guard over a demonstration by
opponents of President Bashar al-Assad's government in Idlib on
Monday.

The move was another dramatic moment in a week full of them, as the
confrontation in Syria turned even more violent and more
unpredictable. Diplomatic efforts have largely collapsed, save for a
Russian delegation visiting Damascus on Tuesday, and both the Syrian
government and its opposition have signaled that each believes that
the grinding conflict will be resolved only through force of arms.

For weeks, Western embassies have reduced their staffs, and on Monday
Britain also recalled its ambassador for consultations. Echoing a
cascade of diplomatic invective, the British foreign secretary,
William Hague, described the mounting violence as yet more evidence
that President Bashar al-Assad must surrender power.

"This is a doomed regime as well as a murdering regime," he told the
House of Commons. "There is no way it can recover its credibility
internationally."

Though the government has pressed forward with a crackdown in the
suburbs of the capital, Damascus, and in a rugged northern region
around the town of Idlib, the city of Homs has witnessed the most
pronounced violence. Opposition groups said government forces again
shelled the city, despite international condemnations of a similar
attack on Friday and Saturday that they said killed more than 200
people.

Another grim toll was reported Monday in the city, Syria's third
largest. The Local Coordination Committees, an opposition group that
seeks to document the violence, said government forces killed 47
people in the hardest-hit neighborhoods, especially Baba Amr and
Khalidya. The London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights put the
number at 43. There was no way to independently confirm either number.

"The situation is so miserable," said a 40-year-old man who gave his
name as Ahmed. "Gunfire is falling like rain, and all the stores are
closed. We keep hearing unbelievably loud explosions that shake the
windows every half-hour."

Explosions could be heard over the phone when speaking with residents
in Homs. Videos smuggled out showed a chaotic scene at a clinic, as
people rushed past doctors and staff members, shouting "Oh God!" In
one video, said to document the scene, blood smeared the sidewalk.
Another showed bloodied corpses.

The government has flatly denied the tolls quoted by opposition
groups. On Saturday, it said Homs was quiet. State-run news media
placed blame for the violence Monday on "armed terrorist groups"
firing mortars within Homs. In a statement, the Interior Ministry said
that it was seeking "to restore security and stability to Homs," and
that six members of the security forces and "scores of terrorists" had
been killed.

Clearly laying the blame on Syria's president, the State Department
said in a statement that the United States had "suspended operations
of our embassy in Damascus," and that Ambassador Robert S. Ford and
all American personnel had left the country. It said the closing
reflected "serious concerns that our embassy is not protected from
armed attack."

"The deteriorating security situation that led to the suspension of
our diplomatic operations makes clear once more the dangerous path
Assad has chosen and the regime's inability to fully control Syria,"
said a spokeswoman, Victoria Nuland. American officials said the
embassy staff had relocated temporarily to neighboring Jordan.

The announcement said Ambassador Ford would "continue his work and
engagement with the Syrian people as head of our Syria team in
Washington."

It stopped short of a formal break in diplomatic relations with Syria,
but was considered a strong signal that Obama administration officials
believe there is nothing left to talk about with Mr. Assad. Though
more isolated than at any time in the four decades since Mr. Assad's
family took power, the government was emboldened by the vetoes of
Russia and China on Saturday of a United Nations Security Council
resolution backed by Western and Arab states supporting a plan to end
the bloodshed. The vetoes appeared to end, for the moment, any
concerted diplomatic efforts.

Instead, countries traded barbs. Mr. Hague called the vetoes "a
betrayal of the Syrian people." Russia's foreign minister, Sergey V.
Lavrov, was scornful of the criticism, saying it was "perhaps on the
verge of hysterical." In China, a commentary in the Communist Party
newspaper People's Daily argued that the chaos that followed the
toppling of governments in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya proved that
forced leadership changes only made matters worse. "Simply backing one
side and beating down the other, seemingly helpful, will in fact only
sow seeds of future disasters," said the article, signed Zhong Sheng,
an often-used pseudonym that can be read to mean "China's voice."

More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/world/middleeast/violence-in-syria-continues-after-diplomacy-fails.html?ref=middleeast

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Florence Green, Last World War I Veteran, Women’s Royal Air Force, Dies at 110

Florence Green, Last World War I Veteran, Dies at 110
By MARGALIT FOX
Published: February 7, 2012

Senior Aircraftman Chris Hill/British Ministry of Defence, via Associated Press
Florence Green received a cake from the Royal Air Force for her 109th
birthday in February 2010. Mrs. Green joined the Women's Royal Air
Force in 1918, toward the end of World War I.

Florence Green, a member of Britain's Royal Air Force who was afraid
of flying, died in England on Saturday, two weeks shy of her 111th
birthday. She was believed to have been the war's last living veteran
— the last anywhere of the tens of millions who served.

Mrs. Green, who joined the R.A.F. as a teenager shortly before war's
end, worked in an officer's mess on the home front. Her service was
officially recognized only in 2010, after a researcher unearthed her
records in Britain's National Archives.

That Mrs. Green went unrecognized for so long owes partly to the fact
that she served under her maiden name, Florence Patterson, and partly
to the fact that she conducted herself, by all accounts, with proper
British restraint, rarely if ever flaunting her service.

It also owes to the fact that her life followed the prescribed
trajectory for women of her era: by the time the 20th century had run
its course, Mrs. Green had long since disappeared into marriage,
motherhood and contented anonymity.

With the death in May of Claude Stanley Choules, an Englishman who
served aboard a Royal Navy battleship, Mrs. Green became the last
known person, male or female, to have served in the war on either
side.

Her death, at a nursing home in King's Lynn, in eastern England, was
announced on the Web site of the Order of the First World War, an
organization based in Florida that keeps track of veterans.

In the spate of interviews she gave after her existence was
discovered, Mrs. Green expressed quiet pride in her service. She also
recalled approvingly the courtly behavior of the officers she served.

"It was very pleasant, and they were lovely," she once told an
interviewer. "Not a bit of bother."

But though she was aware of her historical position as the war's last
veteran, Mrs. Green was philosophical about the war itself, one of the
defining events of modern history, in which more than 20 million
people died.

"It seems," she remarked to The Independent last year, on the occasion
of her 110th birthday, "like such a long time ago now."

The daughter of Frederick Patterson and the former Sarah Neal,
Florence Beatrice Patterson was born in London on Feb. 19, 1901, and
moved to King's Lynn as child.

In September 1918, two months before the war ended, Florence, then 17,
joined the Women's Royal Air Force. An auxiliary branch of the R.A.F.,
it had been created not long before to help free men for combat duty
by recruiting women to work as mechanics and drivers and in other
noncombat jobs.

Made a steward in the officers' mess, she was assigned first to the
Narborough Aerodrome and later to the R.A.F. base at Marham, both in
England's Norfolk region.

She served the officers meals and tea, and in free moments she would
roam the base, admiring the men. "I met dozens of pilots and would go
on dates," Mrs. Green told The Daily Mail in 2010.

But when they offered to take her aloft in their craft — Sopwith
Camels and other biplanes — she demurred. She was afraid to fly.

At Marham, Mrs. Green witnessed what was undoubtedly the most benign
bombing of the war. On Nov. 11, 1918, when armistice was declared, the
Marham fliers celebrated by swooping down on the Narborough airfield,
a few miles away, and letting loose bags of flour. The Narborough boys
quickly retaliated by pelting Marham with bags of soot.

Mrs. Green, who remained in the Women's R.A.F. until July 1919,
married Walter Green in 1920. Mr. Green, a railway porter, died in the
1970s.

Her survivors include two daughters, May and June; a son, Bob; four
grandchildren; and seven great-grandchildren.

Mrs. Green's wartime experience remained unsung until 2009, when an
English newspaper, The Lynn News and Advertiser, wrote about her 108th
birthday. Andrew Holmes, a British researcher for the Gerontology
Research Group, an American organization that keeps statistics on
people who live well past 100, then located her service records in the
National Archives, resulting in Mrs. Green's recognition as a veteran
the next year.

At her funeral next week, The Associated Press reported, the Union
Jack will drape the coffin.

Richard Goldstein contributed reporting.

More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/world/europe/florence-green-last-world-war-i-veteran-dies-at-110.html?hpw

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Elections 2012 | February 7, 2012
Nevada vote fraud official
Jeffrey Phelps

As if anyone who's been paying attention over the last few weeks is actually surprised, another caucus state is taken down by GOP officials, permanently altering the outcome of yet another election, rendering its results forever in question.

This time, however, the people of Nevada are the immediate victims of mounting state GOP scandals, as the historical "First in the West" Nevada Caucus has been officially rendered a fraud, and the unwitting citizens and voters are once again left holding the bag.

So far, the overall magnitude of the circumstances has gone largely unnoticed by the people of the US in general, but that didn't deter NV GOP Chairwoman, Amy Tarkanian from filing her resignation the very next morning on Sunday, as obvious and rampant, widespread election fraud is sweeping through the country in an establishment elite attempt to hide the real results, in favor of a pre-chosen candidate, despite the wishes of the American people.

Very similar to the circumstances that played out in Iowa just weeks ago, also forcing a state GOP official there to recently submit his own resignation, precincts across the state of Nevada are now coming up with mismatching numbers, missing votes, and ultimately and permanently unverifiable results, rendering the entire United States 2012 election process a total failure and, so far, unrecoverable.

After almost every Caucus thus far, the election has to be ultimately rendered meaningless. with the only real solutions being independent Grand Jury investigations, total do-overs, or simply allow the establishment and it's minions to steal the nomination away from the people and the candidate they are actually trying to choose, and simply give it to Mitt Romney instead.

Amazingly, as state after state is ransacked by establishment backed party officials, as Romney continues to benefit from all the pre-meditated mayhem, the establishment's media continues to act as if nothing whatsoever is happening and everything is under control, as if all this has been the plan all along.

Breaking the story of Chairwoman, Tarkanian's resignation, while trying to be as quiet about it as possible, The Nevada Sun did their very best to spin the circumstances and cleverly word the story, attempting to leave the reader with the impression that everything was going to be ok, when the actual reality of the circumstances is obviously quite dire.

 As it turns out, just as in Iowa, the likelihood that Ron Paul should have actually been the winner is very high. Not only did CNN show live coverage of a special late evening vote count in a populated Las Vegas precinct that had Ron Paul winning by almost 60%, statistics are showing that Ron Paul may have actually won the entire caucus by approx. the same margin, had in not been for another round of State GOP election fraud that is seemingly never going to be address by the powers that be, for obvious reasons.

There was even a CNN videotaped situation outside of that same precinct that had event staff attempting to prevent a Ron Paul supporter from entering the premises, seemingly so he couldn't assure a fair results count.

Perhaps the most obvious aspect of the situation, however, may be the fact that Nevada is a known Libertarian state, Ron Paul has basically campaign there since his last attempt at the white house, his numbers have almost doubled in every state since then, yet Nevada state GOP 'officials' expect everyone to believe he actually received fewer votes there in 2012 than he did in 2008?

The situation has become so desperate for the American People and the rule of law, even the historically very humble and quiet Ron Paul should consider coming forward to cry foul. Something he has yet to do, largely because he came so close to winning in Iowa, despite GOP state officials rigging the outcome for Romney…then Santorum.

He also knew he'd be targeted by that same establishment's media and ridiculed as a conspiracy theorist, if he tried speaking out against what should be obvious if it were actually handled honestly by the media, both locally and nationally.

It's now become so obvious that the establishment will do anything to rig the results they are even willing to do it openly, even in caucus states that have paper ballots that are harder to hide.

This desperate attempt to make Mitt Romney the candidate, despite the wishes of the American people, must be a dead give-away that, should he happen to end up beating Obama, he is the one that is guaranteed to continue the overall and continual, multi-decade, establishment 1%'r agenda, whether the people of the United States agree with it or not.

Considering the fact that it seems Ron Paul should be the one actually winning the majority of the caucuses and primaries thus far, goes a long way in showing those paying attention that Obama also represents that same status quo that Mitt Romney does, something the establishment is refusing to let the people of America chose not to go along with.

One thing is for sure, it's going to be very interesting to watch this play out, as scandal after scandal mounts, state by state. Will the people simply sit back and allow the establishment to force their favorite candidate into office, regardless of what the people desire? Only time will tell...

Sources:

Iowa Situation:

Iowa Vote Fraud Official: http://www.examiner.com/conspiracy-in-denver/iowa-vote-fraud-official

Matt Strawn, Iowa GOP Chairman, To Step Down http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/31/matt-strawn-iowa-gop-chairman-resigns-_n_1244186.html

Nevada Situation:

Vote count in GOP caucus continuing in Nevada's largest county http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/feb/05/vote-count-gop-caucus-continuing-nevadas-largest-c/

Nevada GOP dealing with 'trouble box' of questionable ballots http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/feb/05/nevada-gop-dealing-trouble-box/

Excess Ballots Were Counted In Clark County, Nevada http://youtu.be/LphvuOJh8Ak

Ron Paul Trounces Everyone! In Only Nevada Caucus Vote Counted On Live TV http://youtu.be/J8zFzebsoAU

 NEVADA CAUCUS VOTE FRAUD PROOF! 2012 NEVADA CAUCUS PRIMARY VOTER FRAUD PROOF http://youtu.be/Z3D9-NNuC4g

Newt Gingrich Supporter: Everyone Is Voting For Ron Paul! http://youtu.be/12lXCXEtJnY

Move Over, Iowa, Nevada Has A Caucus Problem Too http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/02/05/146415698/move-over-iowa-nevada-has-a-caucus-problem-too

It is official: Elections in America are a complete hoax http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-washington-dc/it-is-official-elections-america-are-a-complete-hoax?CID=obinsite

Why Nevada's GOP caucuses were a jackpot of embarrassments http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2012/02/05/why-nevadas-gop-caucuses-were-a-jackpot-of-embarrassments/?gta=commentlistpos#commentlistpos

Nevada! Clark County Vote Fraud http://robertwanekreports.com/nevada-clark-county-vote-fraud/

https://www.examiner.com/conspiracy-in-denver/nevada-vote-fraud-official

Re: Court: CA Gay Marriage Ban Is Unconstitutional

Hey Greg,
 
Mark pretty much summed it up and I think accurately.  Michael is correct in that government,  (the First State was California followed by Connecticut)  who got into the regulation of marriage,  and it was literally to prevent miscegenation. 
 
I don't think that is the case today, in the New Milennium.  The purpose of government being involved in the contractual arrangement of marriage is two or three fold.  FIrst,  it is a revenue generator,  (albeit a modest revenue generator).  Second,  because of the amount of divorces, and the burden that these contract place upon the judiciary, there has to be some modicum of regulation. 
 
As stated on each and every time this subject pops up,  I am not opposed to civil unions for Gays,  and for those heterosexual couples who are looking for some type of acknowledgement of their union, who do not understand or believe in the tenets of marriage from a  ecclesiastical standpoint. 
 
If It were up to me,  I would in fact remove government from any involvement in marriage, which should be between a man, a woman and their God,  period.  The problem today,  is that a secularist and predominately militant Gay movement is attempting to push the redefinition of marriage down the proverbial throats of Americans, and this is to further their secularist agenda, as well as to normalize the Gay, homosexual agenda. 
 


 
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:59 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
There are no hospital visitation "RIGHTS". There is only hospital
policy. That policy is normally in line with the patients exact stated
wishes.

Taxes (I assume Federal)...The Feds may make any rule they wish as may
the States. Marriage is a permitted activity. If a State allows Gay
marriage then the State tax forms can be filed jointly. If the Feds do
not allow Gay marriage then the inverse is true. These are totally
different systems.

Spousal benefits... again... State and Federal are two different
systems.

On Feb 8, 8:11 am, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Should a married gay couple in Massachusetts have hospital visitation
> rights as a spouse, be able to file taxes jointly, and get spousal
> benefits upon death?
>
> On Feb 8, 8:30 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Proposition 8, nor any of the other state initiatives that I am familiar
> > with, are not attempting to treat "different classes of people,
> > differently".  What the legislation similar to Prop 8 and others are
> > attempting to do,  is to prohibit individuals from carving out more rights,
> > additional privileges,  "Special Rights"  if you will,  from State
> > Constitutions and State Code, that other individuals.
>
> > Currently,  any man or woman can marry any other man or woman  that they so
> > choose to marry.   No law prohibits that;  e.g.;  any man can go and marry
> > any woman,  or any woman can go and marry any man, as is the definition of
> > "Marriage".   What the militant, secularist Gay agenda is attempting to do,
> > is to carve out additional rights and privileges, by allowing certain
> > individuals to redefine "marriage",  thereby giving special rights and
> > privileges to a few people who claim that they want to "marry" within their
> > gender.   That's not marriage,  from a legal standpoint, and it is clearly
> > not marriage,  from an ecclesiastical standpoint.
> > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:39 PM, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>wrote:
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> > > Government has no business in the marriage issue.
> > > --------------------------------------------
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> > > You'll get no argument from me.  A dem gave us DOMA, and n now they
> > > all spout about how terrible it is, and do NOTHING about it.
>
> > > And yes, there are rights attached to marriage, from taxes to
> > > hospitals to death.
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26 Things Non-Paul Voters Are Basically Saying


February8th
26 Things Non-Paul Voters Are Basically Saying
Tom Woods

I am trying to understand the thinking behind the great many Americans who have decided to vote for a mainstream politician in 2012.

Now before you read the below and send me an angry email telling me I should be nice, that I should try to persuade them through love, etc., let me note that I have generally done that. My video appeal to Iowa radio host Steve Deace was a friendly, reasoned discussion of Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich. My videos about Rick Santorum have been straightforward examinations of the facts. (See my video on Santorum's view that we need inflation in order to prosper, and my video on why Catholics should instead vote for Ron Paul.)

But once in a while you just can't take it anymore, and you have to let loose.

So, whether they realize it or not, here are 26 things non-Paul supporters appear to be saying.

(1) The American political establishment has done a super job keeping our country prosperous and our liberties protected, so I'm sure whatever candidate they push on me is probably a good one.

(2) Our country is basically bankrupt. Unfunded entitlement liabilities are in excess of twice world GDP. Therefore, it's a good idea to vote for someone who offers no specific spending cuts of any kind.

(3) Vague promises to cut spending are good enough for me, even though they have always resulted in higher spending in the past.

(4) I prefer a candidate who plays to the crowd, instead of having the courage to tell his audience things they may not want to hear.

(5) I am deeply concerned about spending. Therefore, I would like to vote for someone who supported Medicare Part D, thereby adding $7 trillion to Medicare's unfunded liabilities.

(6) I am opposed to bailouts. Therefore, I will vote for a candidate who supported TARP.

(7) The federal government is much too involved in education, where it has no constitutional role. Therefore, I will vote for a candidate who supported expanding the Department of Education and favored the No Child Left Behind Act.

(8) Even though practically everyone was caught by surprise in the 2008 financial crisis, which we are still reeling from, it's a good idea not to vote for the one man in politics who predicted exactly what was bound to unfold, all the way back in 2001.

(9) I am not impressed by a candidate who inspires people, especially young ones, to read the great economists and political philosophers.

(10) I am concerned about taxes. Therefore, I will not vote for the one candidate who has never supported a tax increase.

(11) I believe it is conservative to support bringing the Enlightenment to Afghanistan.

(12) Even though I lost half my retirement portfolio when the economy crashed from the sugar high the Federal Reserve's artificially low interest rates put it on, I would like to vote for someone who is not really interested in the Federal Reserve.

(13) Even though 50 years of the embargo on Cuba did nothing to undermine Fidel Castro, and in fact handed him a perfect excuse for all the failures of socialism, I favor continuing this policy.

(14) If someone has a drug problem, prison rape is the best solution I can think of.

(15) Even though the Constitution had to be amended to allow for alcohol prohibition, and even though I claim to care about the Constitution, I don't mind that there's no constitutional authorization for the war on drugs, and I will punish at the polls anyone who favors the constitutional solution of returning the issue to the states.

(16) I believe only a "liberal" would think it was inhumane to keep essential items out of Iraq in the 1990s, even though one of the first people to protest this policy was Pat Buchanan.

(17) The Brookings Institution says Newt Gingrich's 1994 Contract with America was an insignificant nibbling around the edges. I favor people who support insignificant nibbling around the edges, as long as they occasionally trick me with a nice speech.

(18) I am deeply concerned about radical Islam, so it was a good idea to depose the secular Saddam Hussein ­ who was so despised by Islamists that Osama bin Laden himself offered to fight against him in the 1991 Persian Gulf War ­ and replace him with a Shiite regime friendly with Iran, while also bringing about a new Iraqi constitution that makes Islam the state religion and forbids any law that contradicts its teachings.

(19) Indefinite detention for U.S. citizens seems like nothing to be worried about, especially since our political class is so trustworthy that it could never abuse such a power.

(20) Following up on (19), I believe Thomas Jefferson was just being paranoid when he said, "In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."

(21) Even though the war in Iraq was based on crude propaganda I would have laughed at if the Soviet Union had peddled it, and even though the result has been hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, four million people displaced, trillions of dollars down the drain, tens of thousands of serious injuries among American servicemen and an epidemic of suicide throughout the military, not to mention the ruination of America's reputation in the world, I see no reason to be skeptical when the same people who peddled that fiasco urge me to support yet another war as my country is going bankrupt.

(22) I do not trust the media. But when the media tells me I am not to support Ron Paul, who says things he is not allowed to say, I will comply.

(23) I know the media will smear or marginalize anyone who would really fix this country. But when the media smears and marginalizes Ron Paul, I will draw no conclusion from this.

(24) I want to be spoken to like this: "My fellow Americans, you are the awesomest of the awesome, and the only reason anyone in the world might be unhappy with your government is because of your sheer awesomeness."

(25) I think it's a good idea to vote for Mitt Romney, whose top three donors are Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, and Morgan Stanley, and a bad idea to vote for Ron Paul, whose top three donors are the U.S. Army, the U.S. Navy, and the U.S. Air Force.

(26) I have not been exploited enough by the cozy relationship between large financial firms and the U.S. government, and I would like to see it continue.


http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/26-things-non-paul-voters-are-basically-saying/

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February 7, 2012 by Danny Sanchez

"I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces." -Étienne de La Boétie

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