Sunday, April 15, 2012

Re: Fwd: [NEWS] Voter ID Laws: Racist or Reasonable?

I find it incredulous that I don't have to show ID to vote and that
DOJ is backing this position.

I find it hypocritical that I can not enter any DOJ office(s) without
showing photo ID.

On Apr 15, 12:27 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Voter ID Laws: Racist or Reasonable?
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> There's been much said lately about election integrity and voter
> identification laws. Both sides of the American political spectrum have
> raised concerns over polls and potential abuses in the American voting
> process. In fact, due to the serious voter registration irregularities
> identified by groups like True the Vote in Texas, along with the numerous
> voter fraud convictions across the nation involving workers from
> politically motivated groups like the failed organization ACORN, many
> states are pursuing photo identification as a means of addressing such
> assaults on election integrity. Texas, South Carolina, and Florida have all
> taken steps to mandate photo identification...
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/13/voter-id-laws-raci...
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> Click here: Voter ID Laws: Racist or
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Re: [I-S] There exists no evidence of Voter Fraud...

Where oh where,  are TommyTomTom,  and that other asshole Moonbat,  Lil'MoonbatMikey?  How can they defend this video by Project Veritas?
 


 
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Re: April 15th

Acually, since its a Sundaym you have until the 16th.  We in Mass have until the 17th,  We're special
On Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:38:55 AM UTC-4, MJ wrote:

"It's April 15, the final day for you to respond to your ruler's ultimatum: your money or your life." -- Robert Higgs

Lysander Spooner "The Highwayman"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6iHr69Lb7yE

1. It is true that the theory of our Constitution is, that all taxes are paid voluntarily; that our government is a mutual insurance company, voluntarily entered into by the people with each other; that that each man makes a free and purely voluntary contract with all others who are parties to the Constitution, to pay so much money for so much protection, the same as he does with any other insurance company; and that he is just as free not to be protected, and not to pay tax, as he is to pay a tax, and be protected.
NT.6.3.3 But this theory of our government is wholly different from the practical fact. The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man: "Your money, or your life." And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat.
NT.6.3.4 The government does not, indeed, waylay a man in a lonely place, spring upon him from the roadside, and, holding a pistol to his head, proceed to rifle his pockets. But the robbery is none the less a robbery on that account; and it is far more dastardly and shameful.
NT.6.3.5 The highwayman takes solely upon himself the responsibility, danger, and crime of his own act. He does not pretend that he has any rightful claim to your money, or that he intends to use it for your own benefit. He does not pretend to be anything but a robber. He has not acquired impudence enough to profess to be merely a "protector," and that he takes men's money against their will, merely to enable him to "protect" those infatuated travellers, who feel perfectly able to protect themselves, or do not appreciate his peculiar system of protection. He is too sensible a man to make such professions as these. Furthermore, having taken your money, he leaves you, as you wish him to do. He does not persist in following you on the road, against your will; assuming to be your rightful "sovereign," on account of the "protection" he affords you. He does not keep "protecting" you, by commanding you to bow down and serve him; by requiring you to do this, and forbidding you to do that; by robbing you of more money as often as he finds it for his interest or pleasure to do so; and by branding you as a rebel, a traitor, and an enemy to your country, and shooting you down without mercy, if you dispute his authority, or resist his demands. He is too much of a gentleman to be guilty of such impostures, and insults, and villainies as these. In short, he does not, in addition to robbing you, attempt to make you either his dupe or his slave.
NT.6.3.6 The proceedings of those robbers and murderers, who call themselves "the government," are directly the opposite of these of the single highwayman.
NT.6.3.7 In the first place, they do not, like him, make themselves individually known; or, consequently, take upon themselves personally the responsibility of their acts. On the contrary, they secretly (by secret ballot) designate some one of their number to commit the robbery in their behalf, while they keep themselves practically concealed. They say to the person thus designated:
NT.6.3.8
Go to A_____ B_____, and say to him that "the government" has need of money to meet the expenses of protecting him and his property. If he presumes to say that he has never contracted with us to protect him, and that he wants none of our protection, say to him that that is our business, and not his; that we choose to protect him, whether he desires us to do so or not; and that we demand pay, too, for protecting him. If he dares to inquire who the individuals are, who have thus taken upon themselves the title of "the government," and who assume to protect him, and demand payment of him, without his having ever made any contract with them, say to him that that, too, is our business, and not his; that we do not choose to make ourselves individually known to him; that we have secretly (by secret ballot) appointed you our agent to give him notice of our demands, and, if he complies with them, to give him, in our name, a receipt that will protect him against any similar demand for the present year. If he refuses to comply, seize and sell enough of his property to pay not only our demands, but all your own expenses and trouble beside. If he resists the seizure of his property, call upon the bystanders to help you (doubtless some of them will prove to be members of our band.) If, in defending his property, he should kill any of our band who are assisting you, capture him at all hazards; charge him (in one of our courts) with murder; convict him, and hang him. If he should call upon his neighbors, or any others who, like him, may be disposed to resist our demands, and they should come in large numbers to his assistance, cry out that they are all rebels and traitors; that "our country" is in danger; call upon the commander of our hired murderers; tell him to quell the rebellion and "save the country," cost what it may. Tell him to kill all who resist, though they should be hundreds of thousands; and thus strike terror into all others similarly disposed. See that the work of murder is thoroughly done; that we may have no further trouble of this kind hereafter. When these traitors shall have thus been taught our strength and our determination, they will be good loyal citizens for many years, and pay their taxes without a why or a wherefore.

NT.6.3.9 It is under such compulsion as this that taxes, so called, are paid. And how much proof the payment of taxes affords, that the people consent to "support the government," it needs no further argument to show.

http://praxeology.net/LS-NT-6.htm

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Re: New Baseline for discussion

Nor you mine.
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:55:26 PM UTC-5, studio wrote:
On Feb 20, 2:08 pm, JDR <jdrwarh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am interested in what discussion may come from the following
> economic scenarios:
> First, a good or service is offered, which is purchased by a
> consumer.  What is an acceptable amount of "profit" that should be
> made?  Should there be any limit to what the "seller" can make?

Depends on the scenario of the sale... of which, there could be many
scenarios...
i.e. what if the seller was the manufacturer of a patented item that
was in high demand... but he purposely limited production so he could
only sell to rich people for a higher profit margin?
But let me back-up a second; you're assuming they will make a sale,
and a profit...
might you wonder why there are so many non-profit organizations around
already?

> If someone can produce a good or service for say $1 and sell it for
> $1,000 - is that okay?

It's ok with me if they don't want to make any, or limited sales.
But it wouldn't be ok with me if it's something all/many people needed
to have.
i.e. a flu shot, gasoline, food, medicine, etc etc.

> If it is not, then what would be an acceptable
> amount of "profit"?  Let's use percent, rather than any specific
> dollar amount - so they we can talk about any scenario, not just the
> example I listed.  For example, a 50% profit would mean having sold
> the item for $1.50

50-100% markup is typical. But again, it depends on what it is and how
much effort/skill goes into it.

> The next question then is what should happen to the profit?  I am
> talking profit, after all expenses are paid for, beyond funds needed
> to keep the business running.  How should the profit be split up - or
> - redistributed/ or not?  Again, let's talk numbers (percentages)
> here, not political rantings.  For example, should 100% stay with the
> owner?  Should it be split amongst all who work for the "company or
> ownership"?  If so, who should get what?

Depends on how much labor goes into making the product, how hard the
product is to sell, and how much effort the owner put into
manufacturing the product...
i.e. it might be an easy product to get funding for... but it might
require great skill and/or care by labor to manufacture, or much time
to sell... or just the opposite or variation.

> Remember, if we stick to using percentages, what we answer to question
> 1 shouldn't impact our thoughts/answers on question 2.  Some might
> feel differently about $1mil in profits vs. $10 in profits - but by
> using percentage, it's the same difference.  Percentage should level
> the playing field.
>
> Lastly, we shouldn't need to note our political leanings here, just
> numbers.  I feel that by using numbers (something we should all be
> able to agree on -not necessarily the final number, but just what a
> number is - a value) maybe we can come closer to finding agreement or
> compromise....vs using words to keep us divided.

Just numbers can be misleading and open to interpretation of what
those numbers mean.
i.e. If you say; good news! only 40% of babies died this year ...
because their parents couldn't afford the 1000% markup on a patented
vaccine the baby needed to survive.

So is it 40% of ALL babies, or 40% of babies that make-up 10% of
babies that needed a particular vaccine, or is it 99% of of all
parents who bought the patented vaccine are now bankrupt?

But if it were your baby, it wouldn't matter what the percentage was,
you might want to kill the bastards for shutting you out of the market
and murdering your baby.
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Greg from Boston wrote:
> The real question is who do you want to enforce the numbers?

Not you Greg.

> And apparently a tough question

No it was the easiest one so far.

And thanks for not answering the questions.

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Where did all the good men go? - YouTube

I sooooo agree with this guy.

Bear


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Fwd: [NEWS] Voter ID Laws: Racist or Reasonable?



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Voter ID Laws: Racist or Reasonable?
 
There's been much said lately about election integrity and voter identification laws. Both sides of the American political spectrum have raised concerns over polls and potential abuses in the American voting process. In fact, due to the serious voter registration irregularities identified by groups like True the Vote in Texas, along with the numerous voter fraud convictions across the nation involving workers from politically motivated groups like the failed organization ACORN, many states are pursuing photo identification as a means of addressing such assaults on election integrity. Texas, South Carolina, and Florida have all taken steps to mandate photo identification...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [NEWS] Voter ID Laws: Racist or Reasonable?

Good article......I encourage folks like TommyTomTomForNews, and other left of center individuals to read this, and understand why there is such a concern over voter fraud.  
 
Thanks for sharing Bruce!
 


 
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Voter ID Laws: Racist or Reasonable?
 
There's been much said lately about election integrity and voter identification laws. Both sides of the American political spectrum have raised concerns over polls and potential abuses in the American voting process. In fact, due to the serious voter registration irregularities identified by groups like True the Vote in Texas, along with the numerous voter fraud convictions across the nation involving workers from politically motivated groups like the failed organization ACORN, many states are pursuing photo identification as a means of addressing such assaults on election integrity. Texas, South Carolina, and Florida have all taken steps to mandate photo identification...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Tough Shit, Amigo





 

 
 






TOUGH SHIT , AMIGO !



A beautiful fairy appeared one day to a destitute Mexican refugee outside an
Arizona immigration office.

"Good man, " the fairy said,  "I've  been sent here by President Obama and
told to grant you three wishes,  since you just arrived in the United States
with your wife and eight children."

The man told the fairy,  "Well,  where I come from we don't have good teeth,
so I want new teeth,  maybe a lot of gold in them."

The fairy looked at the man's almost toothless grin and --  PING !--  he had
a brand new shining set of gold teeth in his mouth!

"What else?" asked the fairy,  "Two more to go."

The refugee claimant now got bolder.  "I need a big house with a three-car
garage in Annapolis on the water with eight bedrooms for my family and the
rest of my relatives who still live in my country..  I want to bring them
all over here" --- and -- PING !-- in the distance there could be seen a
beautiful mansion with a three-car garage,  a long driveway, and a walkout
patio with a BBQ in an upscale neighborhood overlooking the bay.

"One more wish",  said the fairy, waving her wand.

"Yes, one more wish.  I want to be like an American with American clothes
instead of these torn clothes,  and a baseball cap instead of this sombrero.
And I want to have white skin like Americans" ---and --- PING ! -- The man
was transformed - wearing worn-out jeans,  a Baltimore Orioles T-shirt, and
a baseball cap.  He had his bad teeth back and the mansion had disappeared
from the horizon.

"What happened to my new teeth"?  he wailed. "Where is my new  house" ?

THIS IS GOOD . . . . . . . .

NO, ACTUALLY THIS IS VERY GOOD
            . . . . . .

The fairy said:
 "Tough shit, Amigo, now that you are a white American, you have to fend
for yourself."

















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VOTE OBAMA!!!!!!!!

Every day President Obama is freeing toiling masses from the bonds of
wage slavery. An ever growing number of former oil rig, construction,
and retail workers, who once toiled under the yoke of capitalist
oppression, have now heroically joined with liberated multitudes whose
daily wants and needs are provided by the government.
In just three years Obama has emancipated 12 million former wage
earners, adding them to the glorious Food Stamp program - that is a
victorious 38% increase for a total of 44 million. No longer exploited
for their labor, these men and women are free to live a sparse life
without the stress of unnecessary choices, or the burden of supporting
the decadent consumer society. Those who once were mere cogs in the
monstrous capitalist planet-raping machine, now can enjoy a guilt-free
life of government dependency.
As impressive as Obama's success has been, there still remain those
who are bitterly clinging to self-reliance - a debilitation condition
caused by false consciousness, the dark legacy of capitalist
propaganda. To those still shackled to a job: do not give up hope! Our
progress is unstoppable! Obama has plans for many more regulations and
taxes - a tried and true way to beat back the vicious creation of jobs
and prosperity in the reactionary private sector.
Soon you too will enjoy a scant existence with your very own
Obamacard. Experience the glory of heroic and selfless sacrifice for
the Greater Good™ as your children grow up loving the indiscriminate
largess of the government's giving hand!

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