Thursday, April 19, 2012

Re: The Awakening

Poor PlainOl,
 
Stil trying to revise history, and march with TommyTomTom for,  "Equality".  
 
Keep on keeping on,  and let us know how that whole revisionist history and that march is going for ya.....
 


 
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:52 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
tripe to warmongers

have fun in your religious war with the muzzies
you'll eventually run out of blind patriots and zionists who are
willing to kill for oil and israel


On Apr 19, 1:13 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What tripe.   I couldn't even make it through the whole  video.
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:01 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
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Memorial fly past and Shuttling of Old Tin Cans

Memorial fly past

By The Hill Staff - 04/17/12 06:59 PM ET

Washingtonians watched a remarkable sight on Tuesday. The Space
Shuttle Discovery made three passes over the National Mall on the back
of a Boeing 747 before turning toward Dulles airport and retirement.

This was not the retirement merely of one shuttle, nor even the
retirement of a particular program. It was, for now at least, the end
of the great epoch of America's manned space exploration. So the sight
of that spacecraft lumbering to its final rest was an especially
elegiac one. Even its design, with 1960s and '70s styling and tiling,
spoke of a long-gone era.

Standing watching this sad, impressive sight were not just thousands
of citizens and tourists on the Mall and thousands of office workers
crowded onto upper-floor balconies across downtown. There were also
staff and lawmakers looking from the Capitol along the Mall's two
green miles and seeing the emblem of American adventure approach, then
turn and disappear over the western horizon.

Afterward, they too turned — turned inward from watching to get back
to work. That was an apt metaphor for what has happened to the United
States. Those lawmakers were not racing to their desks with urgent
energy to plan and finance a free people's next great push across a
new frontier.

Instead, they are doing or failing to do the work of a debt-strapped
nation — struggling to cope with dwindling credit, narrowed ambitions
and the looming possibility of eventual insolvency.

These are days not of adventure and exploration but of limits and
retrenchment. The House passed a budget containing deeper cuts than
were agreed to in last year's crisis-motivated debt-ceiling deal. But
that budget is going nowhere. The Senate will ignore it and decline to
pass a budget of its own.

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) is moving
forward with a markup, but for the third year in a row, the upper
chamber will let that blueprint gather dust and curl up at the edges.
What's the point of being decisive when there's an election coming?

Nowadays, when the denizens of Congress look for vistas beyond the
marble walls of their workplace — except when presented with the sort
of nostalgic sight available to them yesterday — all they see is debt
stretching away over the horizon.

Some of them, indeed more of them than ever, take this seriously, but
the two parties cannot agree on how to fix the dire problem. Instead
they defer and delay. They kick their tin can down the road, while
retiring that other tin can to the National Air and Space Museum.

More:
http://thehill.com/opinion/editorials/222127-memorial-fly-past

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Re: Let Them Eat Cake: Romney's cookie joke prompts 'Cookie Gate' attack

With all that the communists within the Democratic Party have to worry and fret over, what with Parmley's resignation;  the President's embarassing positions on energy and being a laughingstock at the Americas summit this week;  this is the best that they could find today? 
 
A controversy over cookies?  I am literally laughing out loud!  You know that TommyTomTomForNews is on top of all of the latest breaking talking points and spin from the DailyKos,  the SLPC,  the DemocraticUnderground, and various other hate sites, and this is all he could come up with today?
 
Again, a big,  LOL!
 


 
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
Let Them Eat Cake: I bet Mitt would like to use the Etch-A-Sketch on
this one! -T

Romney's cookie joke prompts 'Cookie Gate' attack
By Alicia M. Cohn - 04/19/12 08:01 AM ET


Mitt Romney clearly did not mean to "dis" a beloved local bakery near
Pittsburgh this week, but Democrats are leaping on his comments as
they work to paint the likely GOP nominee as out of touch with voters.

Romney, meeting with local residents Tuesday at an outdoor roundtable
event in Bethel Park, joked about some cookies and launched yet
another attack based on what critics call his aloofness to the daily
lives of Americans.


"I'm not sure about these cookies," Romney said, and continued to
tease one of the women at the table: "Did you make those cookies? You
didn't, did you? No. No. They came from the local 7-Eleven bakery or
wherever."

The cookies came from Bethel Bakery, a popular local spot, according to reports.

"We wanted him to be welcomed with the best in the 'burgh, and he had
no idea," bakery owner John Walsh told the local ABC affiliate WTAE.
"This guy has no idea how beloved this institution is that provided
these cookies."

On Twitter, the hashtag is #cookiegate, and the Democratic National
Committee was quick to make use of it.

 The Democrats ✔@TheDemocrats
Mitt Romney disses a beloved local bakery in Pittsburgh—and 7-Eleven.
#cookiegate pic.twitter.com/rm41Pzdw

18 Apr 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite
The bakery is running a "Cookie Gate special" on Thursday, giving away
half a dozen cookies with the purchase of a dozen.

"I'm sure he meant it all in jest and didn't mean to slam a local
bakery," Bethel Bakery spokeswoman Julie Lytle told CNN. "It's nothing
that we want to get really upset about ... no reason to be angry.
We're just having fun with it."

But Walsh had one zinger for Romney in The Wall Street Journal later,
saying: "Let him eat cake next time."

It is not the first time Romney has been associated with Marie
Antoinette. When he compared President Obama to the famously
out-of-touch French queen last December, the DNC and Obama's campaign
fired back separately, suggesting it was a "laughable" charge from a
man who speaks French and is "a former corporate buyout specialist."

Romney's cookie comments will likely be added to a list of previous
comments that raised eyebrows, such as "corporations are people" and
"I'm unemployed."

But 7-Eleven, at least, accepted it as an innocent joke as well as a
plug for the chain.

"Actually, Mitt Romney got it right," 7-Eleven spokeswoman Margaret
Chabris told the Journal. "There are bakeries dedicated to making
cookies every day for our 5,500 stores."

More:
http://thehill.com/video/campaign/222467-romneys-cookie-joke-prompts-cookie-gate-attack

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Re: The Awakening

tripe to warmongers

have fun in your religious war with the muzzies
you'll eventually run out of blind patriots and zionists who are
willing to kill for oil and israel


On Apr 19, 1:13 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What tripe.   I couldn't even make it through the whole  video.
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:01 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
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Re: George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin, and Me

What's so ironic and telling about this article from James Loewen,  is that like Loewen, Zimmerman is a "Progressive"  liberal.  Zimmerman supported Obama in the 2008 election.  Zimmerman, up until this whole shooting debacle, along with his wife,  tutored minority children in their school work. 
 
But because of the lies, hateful spew and race baiting from the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton,  TommyTomTomForNews and others,  "White Hispanic"  Zimmerman is now portrayed by idiots like James Loewen as a "Racist".   As stated,  "Ironic"  and "Telling".
 


 
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin, and Me

hnns blog JAMES LOEWEN

I write late in the evening on Tuesday, April 10. This morning I woke
up famous, at least in certain circles. George Zimmerman, famous for
killing Trayvon Martin in Florida, had cited me on his new website.
Correspondents rushed to tell me. His site was receiving so much
traffic that it took seven minutes to log on to his home page. I could
not reach any subsidiary page, specifically the page titled "The
Facts," where I had been told Zimmerman prominently displayed my
words, until late in the morning.

Many other websites had picked up my quote, however.  According to
"George Zimmerman Launches Website to Fund Legal Costs," an unsigned
article at JD Journal, a site whose motto reads "Nothing but the
Truth,"

The site carries a quote from sociologist James W. Loewen: "People
have a right to their own opinions, but not to their own facts.
Evidence must be located, not created, and opinions not backed by
evidence cannot be given much weight."

At their websites, MSNBC, CBS, and many other news services also
included the quote.  CBS termed it "a philosophy attributed to
sociologist James W. Loewen." By mid-afternoon at least 427 sites,
from the New York Times to the "Brother Of Yeshua Blogspot," included
the quotation.

I'm not the only person Zimmerman quoted, but I'm the only living
person. He also included a famous sentence by Edmund Burke: "The only
thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is that good men do nothing."
A jury might take this quote to be a rationale for his vigilante
activism toward "evil." Hence Zimmerman's attorneys might well have
been unhappy with this posted quote, even before they resigned as his
counsel later in the day. However, the Burke sentence pales compared
to the macabre connotation of his second quotation, by Henrik Ibsen:
"A thousand words will not leave so deep an impression as one deed."
Again, his lawyers could not have been happy that Zimmerman posted
this sentence, since a jury might infer that he wanted to make a "deep
impression" by committing a dastardly deed. Lastly, Zimmerman quoted
Thomas Paine: "The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren,
and to do good is my religion."

I'm happy to be in the company of Burke, Ibsen, and Paine. Who knows?
Maybe Zimmerman will get me into Familiar Quotations. (I had hoped
that my one-liner, "Those who don't remember the past are condemned to
repeat the eleventh grade," which I used at the beginning of Lies My
Teacher Told Me, might make the grade, but so far, only three websites
use it.)  However, the first of my two sentences was said in essence
by Bernard Baruch in 1950, by various folks since then, and probably
by others long before. So I think I must search elsewhere for my
fifteen minutes of fame.

Still, it was jarring to see my name and quotation behind the talking
heads Tuesday as they told the story of Zimmerman's lawyers'
resignations on the evening news. I'm not happy with being used as a
resource by George Zimmerman, and I disclaim any relationship with him
and his cause. Of course, once they have unleashed words upon the
world—in particular, upon the World Wide Web—authors have no control
over their use, for good or ill. Moreover, one reason why I have not
written a thing about the death of Trayvon Martin is my lack of facts.
I know only what I have learned from the newspapers (yes, I subscribe)
and other media. Anyone likely to read anything I might write about
the matter has already read the same sources.

I would like to know how George Zimmerman learned of my words that he
used.  They appear on page 358 of Lies My Teacher Told Me. While I
would like to believe he read the entire book, if he did, he seems to
have missed its anti-racist central message.

When it comes to "Brother Of Yeshua," who actually emailed me Tuesday
morning to tell me he had used the quotation, I think it's safe to
infer that he first encountered my words at Zimmerman's website or
news sites that quoted it. Again, he has a (Constitutional) right to
use my words to support any position he wants, and here is what he
used them for:

When rightly understood, what we are presented with is the
manifestation of the statement by James W. Loewen that while "People
have a right to their own opinions, but not to their own facts.
Evidence must be located, not created, and opinions not backed by
evidence cannot be given much weight"—and while the facts demonstrate
that Mormonism is actually closer to the original Gospel teachings and
objectives, mainstream Christianity has been in denial of the very
facts that they have long censored and remain in denial of, to the
degree that those who believe they are Christian, have been
spiritually disenfranchised by the very Church they look to for truth.

So now my words are invoked to support belief in Mormonism as well as
George Zimmerman's innocence!

"Brother Of Yeshua" writes further, "2000 years ago I lived as Jacob
who people call James, and was known as the Brother of Yeshua/Jesus."
Such a statement does not carry the weight of fact. Elsewhere on his
site, he states that he holds to "Religion As The True System Of
Education"—again at odds with education based on fact.

At some point, I should relate all this to the study of history as
taught in our K-12 schools—on which I've spent much of the past twenty
years—so let's do so now. One reason why many Americans are not
critical readers and do not insist upon facts stems from their history
textbooks. Bear in mind that five-sixths of all Americans never take a
history course after leaving high school. High school history
textbooks include no footnotes or other system of references.
Moreover, even when issues remain contested, such as when and how did
people first get to the Americas, textbooks cite no evidence—in this
case, from archaeology, human biology, or anthropology. They just go
on blandly relating certainties, even on topics still ruled by
uncertainty.

Moreover, if Allan Cronshaw in Graham, North Carolina, writes as
"Brother Of Yeshua," that's not so different from what happens in the
K-12 textbook world. There, unnamed gnomes deep in the bowels of the
publishers write in the names of Daniel Boorstin, Alan Winkler, and
many other famous historians whose names grace the covers of books
they didn't write.

Nor does the style of history textbooks—written in a monotone,
presenting "information" to be memorized—promote critical thinking
skills or prompt students to question sources. Such skills might have
induced Mr. Zimmerman and others not to profile young African American
males, which—this much seems factual—he seems to have done.

Then there is Zimmerman's use of the American flag on his website. He
wraps himself in the flag to stop thought, not to start it. All six of
the twenty-first-century textbooks that I analyzed for the new edition
of Lies My Teacher Told Me similarly wave the American flag on their
covers, and for the same reason: to quell critical thinking.
Publishers wave it so prospective purchasers will not question them or
doubt that they are "good Americans." If instead these books would
distinguish between patriotism and nationalism, their flag-waving
might be different. I take my definition of a patriot from Frederick
Douglass, who said, "For he is a lover of his country who rebukes and
does not excuse its sins." Surely textbooks need to help students to
develop informed reasons to criticize as well as to take pride in
their country. Nationalists, on the other hand, take pride in their
nation no matter what—and do not care to think about its sins. If
textbooks made that useful distinction, then Americans might not
"follow the flag" even when our leaders take it into dangerous places
on behalf of foolish and even immoral purposes. If the flag connoted
"do your best critical thinking about the U.S.," then when
politicians, vigilantes, and textbook authors waved it to garner
unthinking approval, the rest of us would simply laugh at them.

I believe—at least I hope—that the millions of people who came upon my
statement comparing facts and opinions Tuesday do not infer that I am
George Zimmerman's ally. I am not. Rather, I hope that Americans will
ground their opinions about this case on the facts. We all surely hope
that a process has finally been set in place that will allow the facts
to emerge. Meanwhile, those of us far from Sanford, even far from
Florida, must set processes in place that will transform how we teach
about the American past in grades K-12. When we allow facts to
emerge—even awkward and untoward facts—when we encourage students to
question national and local policies—and yes, when we insist that
"opinions not backed by evidence cannot be given much weight"—then we
are educating. Then we are producing Americans who are unlikely to
profile. Then we are patriots.

More:
http://hnn.us/blogs/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-and-me

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Let Them Eat Cake: Romney's cookie joke prompts 'Cookie Gate' attack

Let Them Eat Cake: I bet Mitt would like to use the Etch-A-Sketch on
this one! -T

Romney's cookie joke prompts 'Cookie Gate' attack
By Alicia M. Cohn - 04/19/12 08:01 AM ET


Mitt Romney clearly did not mean to "dis" a beloved local bakery near
Pittsburgh this week, but Democrats are leaping on his comments as
they work to paint the likely GOP nominee as out of touch with voters.

Romney, meeting with local residents Tuesday at an outdoor roundtable
event in Bethel Park, joked about some cookies and launched yet
another attack based on what critics call his aloofness to the daily
lives of Americans.


"I'm not sure about these cookies," Romney said, and continued to
tease one of the women at the table: "Did you make those cookies? You
didn't, did you? No. No. They came from the local 7-Eleven bakery or
wherever."

The cookies came from Bethel Bakery, a popular local spot, according to reports.

"We wanted him to be welcomed with the best in the 'burgh, and he had
no idea," bakery owner John Walsh told the local ABC affiliate WTAE.
"This guy has no idea how beloved this institution is that provided
these cookies."

On Twitter, the hashtag is #cookiegate, and the Democratic National
Committee was quick to make use of it.

The Democrats ✔@TheDemocrats
Mitt Romney disses a beloved local bakery in Pittsburgh—and 7-Eleven.
#cookiegate pic.twitter.com/rm41Pzdw

18 Apr 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite
The bakery is running a "Cookie Gate special" on Thursday, giving away
half a dozen cookies with the purchase of a dozen.

"I'm sure he meant it all in jest and didn't mean to slam a local
bakery," Bethel Bakery spokeswoman Julie Lytle told CNN. "It's nothing
that we want to get really upset about ... no reason to be angry.
We're just having fun with it."

But Walsh had one zinger for Romney in The Wall Street Journal later,
saying: "Let him eat cake next time."

It is not the first time Romney has been associated with Marie
Antoinette. When he compared President Obama to the famously
out-of-touch French queen last December, the DNC and Obama's campaign
fired back separately, suggesting it was a "laughable" charge from a
man who speaks French and is "a former corporate buyout specialist."

Romney's cookie comments will likely be added to a list of previous
comments that raised eyebrows, such as "corporations are people" and
"I'm unemployed."

But 7-Eleven, at least, accepted it as an innocent joke as well as a
plug for the chain.

"Actually, Mitt Romney got it right," 7-Eleven spokeswoman Margaret
Chabris told the Journal. "There are bakeries dedicated to making
cookies every day for our 5,500 stores."

More:
http://thehill.com/video/campaign/222467-romneys-cookie-joke-prompts-cookie-gate-attack

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Re: Patriot Games: How the FBI spent a decade hunting white supremacists and missed Timothy McVeigh.

How the FBI spent a decade hunting white supremacists and missed
Timothy McVeigh
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the results prove that the FBI should have been investigating minority
gangs instead


On Apr 19, 4:42 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ---------
>
> Patriot Games: How the FBI spent a decade hunting white supremacists and
>
> missed Timothy McVeigh.
>
> BY J.M. BERGER | APRIL 18, 2012
>
> http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/04/18/patriot_games?print=...
>
> In 1990, the FBI began picking up on rumors about an effort to reconstitute
>
> a notorious terrorist-criminal gang known as The Order.
>
> The group's name was taken from the infamous racist 1978 novel The Turner
>
> Diaries, which told the story of a fictional cabal carrying out acts of
>
> terrorism and eventually overthrowing the U.S. government in a bloody,
>
> nihilistic racial purge. The book was an inspiration to a generation of
>
> white nationalists, including Timothy McVeigh, whose path to radicalization
>
> climaxed in the Oklahoma City bombing 17 years ago Thursday.
>
> During the 1980s, extremists inspired by the book began robbing banks and
>
> armored cars, stealing and counterfeiting millions of dollars and
>
> distributing some of the money to racist extremist causes. Members of The
>
> Order assassinated Jewish talk radio host Alan Berg in 1984, before most of
>
> its members were arrested and its leader killed in a standoff. Less than 10
>
> percent of the money stolen by The Order was ever recovered, and
>
> investigators feared members of the group who were still at large would use
>
> it to further a campaign of terrorism.
>
> To prevent the rise of a "Second Order," FBI undercover agents would become
>
> it.
>
> Starting in April 1991, three FBI agents posed as members of an invented
>
> racist militia group called the Veterans Aryan Movement. According to their
>
> cover story, VAM members robbed armored cars, using the proceeds to buy
>
> weapons and support racist extremism. The lead agent was a Vietnam veteran
>
> with a background in narcotics, using the alias Dave Rossi.
>
> Code-named PATCON, for "Patriot-conspiracy," the investigation would last
>
> more than two years, crossing state and organizational lines in search of
>
> intelligence on the so-called Patriot movement, the label applied to a
>
> wildly diverse collection of racist, ultra-libertarian, right-wing and/or
>
> pro-gun activists and extremists who, over the years, have found common
>
> cause in their suspicion and fear of the federal government.
>
> The undercover agents met some of the most infamous names in the movement,
>
> but their work never led to a single arrest. When McVeigh walked through the
>
> middle of the investigation in 1993, he went unnoticed.
>
> PATCON is history, but it holds lessons for today. Since the attacks of
>
> Sept. 11, 2001, a series of arrests for homegrown terrorism has put a
>
> spotlight on the secretive world of government infiltration, especially in
>
> the Muslim community. Some critics have charged that these investigations,
>
> in which suspected jihadists are provided with the means and encouragement
>
> to carry out terrorist attacks before being arrested, constitute entrapment
>
> and set plots in motion that would never have emerged on their own. But
>
> these controversial tactics were around long before the FBI was restructured
>
> to prioritize terrorism. And Muslims aren't the only targets.
>
> Most undercover operations remain secret, especially if they do not result
>
> in prosecutions. PATCON stayed under wraps for nearly 15 years, until it was
>
> discovered in Freedom of Information Act requests by the author. The account
>
> that follows is based on thousands of pages of FBI records on PATCON and the
>
> groups it targeted, as well as interviews with FBI agents who worked on the
>
> case, former FBI informants, and members of the targeted groups. The
>
> documents and interviews reveal important lessons for the modern use of
>
> undercover agents and informants.
>
> PATCON had its origins in the investigation of Louis Beam, an infamous
>
> racial ideologue with connections to the original Order. In 1987, the
>
> government prosecuted him for sedition in connection with the group's
>
> activities, but he was acquitted and subsequently moved to the Austin,
>
> Texas, area.
>
> The FBI was keenly interested in Beam's activities and his associates. In
>
> 1990, agents in Texas opened an investigation into his activities within the
>
> "Texas Light Infantry" (TLI). With branches throughout the Lone Star state,
>
> the TLI was a paramilitary militia that styled itself as an emergency backup
>
> for the Texas State Guard. Although the case file expansively included the
>
> whole organization -- most of which was not racist in nature --
>
> investigators were primarily interested in a handful of Austin-area members
>
> and associates tied to Beam.
>
> Initially, the FBI targeted the TLI using an informant named Vince Reed, a
>
> Vietnam veteran who had successfully infiltrated the Hell's Angels on an
>
> earlier assignment. An undercover agent worked with Reed, posing as his gun
>
> dealer to strengthen his cover.
>
> Reed reported hearing Beam's TLI friends talk about "The Second Order," a
>
> newly revamped group that would stockpile money and weapons to fight a
>
> revolution against the federal government.
>
> The FBI wanted to know more. To enhance Reed's status and open a new channel
>
> of intelligence, an undercover operation was proposed.
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> There are two kinds of FBI undercover operations, known as Group I and Group
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> II UCOs. Group II UCOs are used in relatively informal ways and require less
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> oversight, but they also receive less funding and administrative support.
>
> Reed's "gun dealer" worked under the Group II heading, since he did not
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> require substantial backup or extraordinary means to pull off his cover
>
> story.
>
> FBI agents in Austin wanted to enhance the mix with a Group I operation, a
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> more ambitious undertaking that would be eligible for considerably more
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> funding and support but had to be predicated on a specific criminal act or
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> threat and was subject to additional supervision.
>
> FBI records on the TLI offered a plethora of suspected crimes, including the
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> stockpiling of explosives for an anticipated war against the government. But
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> in the end, none of the leads on the group resulted in prosecution.
>
> To justify the PATCON operation, the strongest provocation was selected. An
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> informant, likely Reed, had reported that TLI associates had discussed the
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> possibility of killing two Austin-based FBI agents. They had done
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> surveillance and collected information about where the agents lived and
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> their daily routines.
>
> That threat became the primary criminal predicate for PATCON. But it soon
>
> became clear that the suspects weren't planning to act any time soon,
>
> according to one of the targeted agents. When pressed by FBI sources, the
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> suspects said the killings would take place only after the U.S. government
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> had been overthrown.
>
> Within months, the PATCON status reports conceded that the planned
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> assassinations were "not as imminent as originally feared" and had been
>
> referenced only in "vague fashion" since the operation began. But it was
>
> enough to keep the operation going. A headquarters review said PATCON was
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> "well focused" and had "not expanded beyond the intent of the
>
> authorization."
>
> The operation's intent, secondary to the threats on paper at least, was to
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> broadly collect intelligence on the Patriot movement's members and
>
> activities, according to records of the investigation and former FBI agents
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> who worked on the case.
>
> Three Patriot groups were directly targeted by PATCON -- TLI, an Alabama
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> organization called Civilian Material Assistance, and the Tennessee-based
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> American Pistol and Rifle Association.
>
> Half the targeted TLI "members" did not actually belong to the militia,
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> according to former members and associates of the group. FBI agents said the
>
> targets were selected because of their relationship to Beam, who was seen as
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> a gateway to the Idaho-based Aryan Nations, one of the nation's largest and
>
> most well-established white nationalist groups.
>
> PATCON operatives rented an Austin-area safe house wired for audio and
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> video, which they occupied with the informant Vince Reed, hoping to catch
>
> Beam and others saying something incriminating on tape, according to agents
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> who worked with Reed.
>
> The safe house surveillance didn't produce results, but Reed eventually won
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> an introduction to Richard Butler, the influential head of the Aryan
>
> Nations, who along with Beam had been associated with The Order. Reed then
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> relocated to the group's Idaho headquarters and eventually rose to a senior
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> position in the organization, reporting to the FBI all the while.
>
> PATCON continued its surveillance without him.
>
> The threats the FBI chronicled as emanating from the TLI were not
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> insignificant. For instance, an FBI lab analysis said that remnants of an
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> expertly crafted pipe bomb were found during a search at a TLI training
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> camp. The search for more information was understandable, especially given
>
> the consequences if an act of violence were to take place and it was then
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> revealed that the bureau could have prevented it.
>
> But lead after lead failed to uncover evidence that would support an
>
> indictment or even indicate that the plots were making any serious progress.
>
> Although the targets of the operation talked continually about forming The
>
> New Order, no one ever provided specific plans or names of those involved,
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> according to agents working on the case.
>
> "You have talkers and doers out there, and 99 percent of the people are
>
> talkers," said one former Patriot informant. Most of the targets of PATCON
>
> -- even those engaged in frighteningly violent rhetoric -- never moved past
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> the talking stage.
>
> Eventually, greener pastures beckoned. In February 1992, not quite a year
>
> into the operation, the focus of PATCON shifted. The agent posing as Dave
>
> Rossi arranged an introduction to Thomas Posey, the leader of the Alabama
>
> group, Civilian Material Assistance (CMA).

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George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin, and Me

George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin, and Me

hnns blog JAMES LOEWEN

I write late in the evening on Tuesday, April 10. This morning I woke
up famous, at least in certain circles. George Zimmerman, famous for
killing Trayvon Martin in Florida, had cited me on his new website.
Correspondents rushed to tell me. His site was receiving so much
traffic that it took seven minutes to log on to his home page. I could
not reach any subsidiary page, specifically the page titled "The
Facts," where I had been told Zimmerman prominently displayed my
words, until late in the morning.

Many other websites had picked up my quote, however. According to
"George Zimmerman Launches Website to Fund Legal Costs," an unsigned
article at JD Journal, a site whose motto reads "Nothing but the
Truth,"

The site carries a quote from sociologist James W. Loewen: "People
have a right to their own opinions, but not to their own facts.
Evidence must be located, not created, and opinions not backed by
evidence cannot be given much weight."

At their websites, MSNBC, CBS, and many other news services also
included the quote. CBS termed it "a philosophy attributed to
sociologist James W. Loewen." By mid-afternoon at least 427 sites,
from the New York Times to the "Brother Of Yeshua Blogspot," included
the quotation.

I'm not the only person Zimmerman quoted, but I'm the only living
person. He also included a famous sentence by Edmund Burke: "The only
thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is that good men do nothing."
A jury might take this quote to be a rationale for his vigilante
activism toward "evil." Hence Zimmerman's attorneys might well have
been unhappy with this posted quote, even before they resigned as his
counsel later in the day. However, the Burke sentence pales compared
to the macabre connotation of his second quotation, by Henrik Ibsen:
"A thousand words will not leave so deep an impression as one deed."
Again, his lawyers could not have been happy that Zimmerman posted
this sentence, since a jury might infer that he wanted to make a "deep
impression" by committing a dastardly deed. Lastly, Zimmerman quoted
Thomas Paine: "The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren,
and to do good is my religion."

I'm happy to be in the company of Burke, Ibsen, and Paine. Who knows?
Maybe Zimmerman will get me into Familiar Quotations. (I had hoped
that my one-liner, "Those who don't remember the past are condemned to
repeat the eleventh grade," which I used at the beginning of Lies My
Teacher Told Me, might make the grade, but so far, only three websites
use it.) However, the first of my two sentences was said in essence
by Bernard Baruch in 1950, by various folks since then, and probably
by others long before. So I think I must search elsewhere for my
fifteen minutes of fame.

Still, it was jarring to see my name and quotation behind the talking
heads Tuesday as they told the story of Zimmerman's lawyers'
resignations on the evening news. I'm not happy with being used as a
resource by George Zimmerman, and I disclaim any relationship with him
and his cause. Of course, once they have unleashed words upon the
world—in particular, upon the World Wide Web—authors have no control
over their use, for good or ill. Moreover, one reason why I have not
written a thing about the death of Trayvon Martin is my lack of facts.
I know only what I have learned from the newspapers (yes, I subscribe)
and other media. Anyone likely to read anything I might write about
the matter has already read the same sources.

I would like to know how George Zimmerman learned of my words that he
used. They appear on page 358 of Lies My Teacher Told Me. While I
would like to believe he read the entire book, if he did, he seems to
have missed its anti-racist central message.

When it comes to "Brother Of Yeshua," who actually emailed me Tuesday
morning to tell me he had used the quotation, I think it's safe to
infer that he first encountered my words at Zimmerman's website or
news sites that quoted it. Again, he has a (Constitutional) right to
use my words to support any position he wants, and here is what he
used them for:

When rightly understood, what we are presented with is the
manifestation of the statement by James W. Loewen that while "People
have a right to their own opinions, but not to their own facts.
Evidence must be located, not created, and opinions not backed by
evidence cannot be given much weight"—and while the facts demonstrate
that Mormonism is actually closer to the original Gospel teachings and
objectives, mainstream Christianity has been in denial of the very
facts that they have long censored and remain in denial of, to the
degree that those who believe they are Christian, have been
spiritually disenfranchised by the very Church they look to for truth.

So now my words are invoked to support belief in Mormonism as well as
George Zimmerman's innocence!

"Brother Of Yeshua" writes further, "2000 years ago I lived as Jacob
who people call James, and was known as the Brother of Yeshua/Jesus."
Such a statement does not carry the weight of fact. Elsewhere on his
site, he states that he holds to "Religion As The True System Of
Education"—again at odds with education based on fact.

At some point, I should relate all this to the study of history as
taught in our K-12 schools—on which I've spent much of the past twenty
years—so let's do so now. One reason why many Americans are not
critical readers and do not insist upon facts stems from their history
textbooks. Bear in mind that five-sixths of all Americans never take a
history course after leaving high school. High school history
textbooks include no footnotes or other system of references.
Moreover, even when issues remain contested, such as when and how did
people first get to the Americas, textbooks cite no evidence—in this
case, from archaeology, human biology, or anthropology. They just go
on blandly relating certainties, even on topics still ruled by
uncertainty.

Moreover, if Allan Cronshaw in Graham, North Carolina, writes as
"Brother Of Yeshua," that's not so different from what happens in the
K-12 textbook world. There, unnamed gnomes deep in the bowels of the
publishers write in the names of Daniel Boorstin, Alan Winkler, and
many other famous historians whose names grace the covers of books
they didn't write.

Nor does the style of history textbooks—written in a monotone,
presenting "information" to be memorized—promote critical thinking
skills or prompt students to question sources. Such skills might have
induced Mr. Zimmerman and others not to profile young African American
males, which—this much seems factual—he seems to have done.

Then there is Zimmerman's use of the American flag on his website. He
wraps himself in the flag to stop thought, not to start it. All six of
the twenty-first-century textbooks that I analyzed for the new edition
of Lies My Teacher Told Me similarly wave the American flag on their
covers, and for the same reason: to quell critical thinking.
Publishers wave it so prospective purchasers will not question them or
doubt that they are "good Americans." If instead these books would
distinguish between patriotism and nationalism, their flag-waving
might be different. I take my definition of a patriot from Frederick
Douglass, who said, "For he is a lover of his country who rebukes and
does not excuse its sins." Surely textbooks need to help students to
develop informed reasons to criticize as well as to take pride in
their country. Nationalists, on the other hand, take pride in their
nation no matter what—and do not care to think about its sins. If
textbooks made that useful distinction, then Americans might not
"follow the flag" even when our leaders take it into dangerous places
on behalf of foolish and even immoral purposes. If the flag connoted
"do your best critical thinking about the U.S.," then when
politicians, vigilantes, and textbook authors waved it to garner
unthinking approval, the rest of us would simply laugh at them.

I believe—at least I hope—that the millions of people who came upon my
statement comparing facts and opinions Tuesday do not infer that I am
George Zimmerman's ally. I am not. Rather, I hope that Americans will
ground their opinions about this case on the facts. We all surely hope
that a process has finally been set in place that will allow the facts
to emerge. Meanwhile, those of us far from Sanford, even far from
Florida, must set processes in place that will transform how we teach
about the American past in grades K-12. When we allow facts to
emerge—even awkward and untoward facts—when we encourage students to
question national and local policies—and yes, when we insist that
"opinions not backed by evidence cannot be given much weight"—then we
are educating. Then we are producing Americans who are unlikely to
profile. Then we are patriots.

More:
http://hnn.us/blogs/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-and-me

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Re: The Awakening

What tripe.   I couldn't even make it through the whole  video.
 


 
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:01 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
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Obama and BBQ




 

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Bronx, NY Residence Line Up For $1,000 “Obama Stimulus” Pre-Paid Debit Cards That Don’t Work



New post on Scotty Starnes's Blog

Bronx, NY Residence Line Up For $1,000 "Obama Stimulus" Pre-Paid Debit Cards That Don't Work

by Scotty Starnes

Only parasitic Obama supporter could believe in such a thing as "free money."

BRONX (WABC) -- What is drawing huge crowds in the Bronx, people lining up around the block, to get into a storefront that houses a tax preparation office, what's really going on?

And what's the involvement of a California bank that issues pre-paid debit cards?

Eyewitness News is still trying to get straight answers.

People who went to the storefront asked Eyewitness News to investigate after they claim they were promised thousands of dollars in government surplus money that would be put on pre-paid debit cards.

Now, the bank that issues those debit cards has put out a warning.

"I'd like to talk to the boss," Eyewitness News Investigative Reporter Sarah Wallace said.

"He's not here," security at E &M Multi Service said.

The security team outside E&M multi services in the Bronx didn't want to answer Eyewitness News' questions.

They tried to repeatedly block Eyewitness News from talking to customers lined up outside the storefront location that says it's a tax preparation business.

"Why are you stopping?" Wallace asked.

"Cause I want to," security said.

On a recent day, Eyewitness News watched as the head of security barked crowd control orders and collected copies of social security cards and state IDs to take up the back stairs through the 99 cent store.

AG Eric Holder should get involved. After all it "disenfranchises" certain people when they are asked for ID. This is blatant racism.

So what is everyone here for? Some didn't want to show their faces.

"What did they say about Obama?" Wallace asked.

"That we would get a thousand dollars and you would sign," a person in line said.

"And you would get a thousand dollars? This was Obama stimulus money?" Wallace asked.

"Yes," the person answered, "I activated the card and there was nothing on it."

"Are you giving away free money?" Wallace asked.

"Get that camera out of my face," Security said.

"You gave them your social security card, so you were going to get a thousand dollars?" Wallace asked.

"Yes," a man answered.

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The Awakening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWUQ_N_vHc0&feature=related


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Re: Because Lil'MarxistMoonbatTommyTomForNews Asked: Limbaugh's Ratings Are Up!

INSTANTLY, by the way.  Great "boucott".
 
Where's Keith Olberwomann?
 
Christ, Al Gore fired him!

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:53:05 PM UTC-4, KeithInTampa wrote:
 
 

Because You (And Lil'MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews) Asked... Our Ratings are Up

March 29, 2012
Listen to it Button
 

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I have been, over the course of the past month... And this is inside baseball stuff, but you people have been so terrific during this past month. Normally this is a question I wouldn't answer, but I'm going to answer it 'cause I'm being peppered constantly. "What have your ratings been since that whole Fluke thing happened?" And normally I don't talk about them in specifics because in the ethics of the broadcast business you don't do it. You don't do
anything that would artificially affect them and there are penalties if you get too specific about methodology and so forth. It's enough to say: Most listened to radio talk show in the country ever, and it's unlikely to ever be topped.

That's enough to say.

But I'll just answer the question this way. In the past month... Radio ratings are taken many different ways. They're broken down in almost impossibly humorous ways. For example, if I wanted to, I could probably make the case that I am the number one show among one-armed amputees at the corner of whatever and whatever in SoHo on Friday afternoons in the third hour. If I wanted to make that claim, I'm sure I could find it in there. But the simple answer is that on the range of all 600 radio stations, our ratings are up anywhere from 10% to 60%, depending on the station.

And that's as detailed as I'm going to get. What I mean by that is we could be up 33% on one station, 12% on another, and 60% is the top that we're up on another. We're up 50% in a number of places. The advertisers who hung in here are going gangbusters, yes. I mean, that's the simple truth. The only ones who got hurt are the ones who left. And that's its own tragedy because they left under false, trumped up, unreal pretenses. I don't want to relive that. I just wanted to answer the question without getting too specific, because everybody's asking about it.

And it's a way of thanking you, too.

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Re: Unlike Gerry Studds?

a LOT!!!!
 
and his spouse, Dean Hara, is the greatest victim of of Clinton's DOMA EVER!
 
He married Studds (the diddler) in 2004.  Studds died.  And when Hara applied for spousal benfits, he was given a hearty F U by the fed.  Yoiu ain't married, and never were.
 
Mr Hara lives in the great hero of gay rights, Barney Frank's district.
 
Jack.
 
What champions be the dems.
 
Yea!

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:42:13 PM UTC-4, Travis wrote:
But Gerry liked the boys.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:


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From: bigraccoon
Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Subject: [SouthernDemocrats] Romney Supporter Nugent Admitted to Multiple Affairs With Underage Girls
To: southerndemocrats@yahoogroups.com


 

Romney Supporter Nugent Admitted to Multiple Affairs With Underage Girls
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/romney-supporter-nugent-admitted-multiple-a


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Re: Thanks!!

Hello LadyBugs, and it's good to see ya!
 
I hope that you might come on back to the group fold and participate!  We still have a few far left of center individuals who participate, but not nearly the wolfpack that used to be here....They have all migrated over to Cosmotopia,  (Formerly Euwetopia);  and although I don't drop in over there as frequently as I used to,  they are still there,  usually hammering their token conservative of the day.  
 
Again, good to see ya!
 
KeithInTampa

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:03 PM, LadybugsTX <texasbydawn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

A few years ago. I stepped, for the first time in my life, into the
political arena.  My first stop was here where I was met by the
nastiest of the nasty liberal...  Quite the trial by fire.  I was
educating myself at the time, and while I was passionate, I was still
woefully uninformed.    This was something you nasties were quick to
jump on and beat me about the head and face with at every
opportunity.  However, if it hadn't been for you, I wouldn't have
sought out the truth with the ferocity of a mother lion protecting my
cub, which is exactly what it boils down to... protecting this country
for the future of my kids and grandkids, and yes, even you.  I learned
not to seek out information that didn't suit my political ideology,
but the truth.

I see that this forum may have become a kinder, gentler forum.  But
then again, I didn't go back very far.  I just wanted to say thanks to
you nasty liberals that still post here.  Your personal attacks and
vitriol worked, but in a manner which I'm sure was exactly opposite
from what you had intended.  I'm sure you meant for me to shut up, go
away and bury my head back in the sand so you could go about the
business of raping and pillaging at will to get achieve the socialist
vision you want for America.  That didn't happen. I educated myself
and now I'm armed with truth and resolve.  I'd wish you luck, but eff
that...

Sincerely,
LadybugsTX
Las Vegas, NV

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Re: Gov. Johnson In The News: From Eau Claire to Tax Day in Worcester

Hey Bruce!
 
I am curious......Have you decided to officially endorse Gary Johnson,  or are you still on the fence?  
 


 
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Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Subject: Gov. Johnson In The News: From Eau Claire to Tax Day in Worcester
To: majors.bruce@gmail.com


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Libertarian candidate touts fiscal conservatism, social tolerance

April 14, 2012
Leader-Telegram
By Eric Lindquist Leader-Telegram staff

A leading Libertarian presidential candidate stopped in Eau Claire on Saturday to tout his message of fiscal conservatism and social tolerance.

Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson said he believes a majority of Americans would classify themselves as both fiscally conservative — a trait historically associated with Republicans — and socially tolerant — a characteristic traditionally linked with Democrats — and that's why he describes his views as the "best of both worlds."

Still, Johnson acknowledged in an interview the uphill battle he faces in generating enough support to pose a serious challenge to Democratic President Barack Obama or Republican frontrunner Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor. Johnson's immediate mission is to reach the standard in all 50 states to qualify for federal matching funds for his campaign.

"The pie in the sky scenario is to potentially poll at 15 percent and then qualify to be on the national debate stage with them," Johnson said before addressing the 2012 Libertarian Minnesota & Wisconsin Joint State Convention at the Ramada Convention Center.

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The most interesting presidential candidate in the race

April 11, 2012
Examiner.com
By Karl Dickey

He has climbed Mt. Everest. He's an avid runner. He's smoked weed. He's competed in the Ironman triathlon five times. He once stomped out a forest fire in Los Alamos with just his feet. He built a 1,000+ employee business from scratch. He has received the highest rating of any candidate from the ACLU. He genuinely wants to get government out of American's bedrooms. He's been elected to two-terms as a Governor of a state majority of Democrats. Balanced that state's budget while in office and reduced the size and scope of its government while other states were bloating themselves on taxpayer monies. This candidate donates much time to various charities, helping needy children and families. He feels the government should not be discriminating against gay couples wishing to marry and feels they should also be able to adopt children. It would appear he is everything Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are not.

What is most interesting about this candidate is, he's running a viable campaign as a Libertarian, polling above any other Libertarian candidate for president in recent memory. Who is this guy?

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In Worcester, tea party faithful greet tax day
Rally hears an urgent call to stand and deliver

April 16, 2012
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Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson speaks yesterday during the fourth annual tax day rally in Worcester. (T&G Staff/RICK CINCLAIR)


WORCESTER —  About 300 people at yesterday's Worcester County Tea Party's fourth annual tax day rally at Lincoln Square were told they can make a big difference in this year's election.

People arriving before the 2:15 p. m. rally listened to rock music played by Smear Campaign while they set up signs with phrases such as, "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny" and "Don't tax my candy."

"These are great signs," said Francis C. "Chip Faulkner, associate director of Citizens for Limited Taxation. "They show your feelings."

Six participants held up an approximately 60-foot long banner before the rally at Lincoln Square urging people to repeal the income tax.

One of the banner holders was Thomas E. Tribastone of Worcester who said he believes the government has to be reigned in.

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The Obama-Romney-Johnson three way race - their stance on the issues

April 15, 2012
Examiner.com
By Karl Dickey

The three most likely candidates to be on the ballot in all 50 states for the office of President are current President Obama, Republican Mitt Romney and Libertarian Gary Johnson. Many American voters have been asking where exactly do they stand on the major issues affecting Americans.

The mainstream media has its focus on side issues rather than the hardcore issues. We do our best to inform the public here.

Marriage Equality: Obama and Romney are against it, Gary Johnson is for it.

Legalization of Medicinal Marijuana: Obama and Romney are against it. Gary Johnson is for it.

Staunch Advocate for Gun Rights: Obama and Romney have voted for gun control, Johnson supports more adherence to the 2nd Amendment.

War: Obama and Romney either have or have voiced support of engaging in unconstitutional wars. Johnson is not for war except in cases of true defense of the U.S.A. and potentially where innocent civilians are being killed by their oppressive governments or "warlords".

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Gary Johnson, Ron Paul Liberty Fest weekend April 20th-22nd, come join us!

April 16, 2012
The Political Spectrum

Dear Fellow Libertarians,

The Libertarian Party of Pennsylvania will hold its convention in conjunction with Restoring Freedoms www.restoringfreedoms.com ; perhaps the most unique political event of the year this coming weekend April 20th-22nd at the historic F.M Kirby Center for the Performing Arts in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. http://www.kirbycenter.org/events/7ro/restoring_freedom/

On hand Friday will be Gary Johnson two-term Governor of New Mexico and presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party along with Rupert Boneham: Rupert and LPPA Convention survivor fan favorite, 20 year youth mentor, and Libertarian candidate for Governor of Indiana.  Rupert Boneham will also be the featured speaker at the buffet dinner Saturday night.   There are still a few tickets available and can be obtained at  http://www.lppanews.com/

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TLP Quik Hits: Gary Johnson The Anti-War 2012 Candidate

April 4, 2012
The Libertarian Patriot
By Chris W.

If you are one of the 60% who believe that the war in Afghanistan is no longer worth fighting, you have only one candidate that will be on the Presidential ballot in November who will put an immediate end to the hostilities; Gary Johnson.

The choice is yours; are you going to vote your conscience or vote for a candidate who will continue the killing of American soldiers?

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Gary Johnson, A Short Review:

April 16, 2012
Libertarians
By ptwalker

I have written about Gary Johnson on this blog before (here and here) and I have always liked his message, and could never really understand why he did not gain more traction in the Republican nominating process, or with the electorate in general. Yesterday I took the opportunity to go and see (and briefly speak with) the governor, and I have to say, it makes even less sense to me now.

Speaking to a TEA Party audience in Worcester he very succinctly laid out the real problem facing the United States at this moment: we are borrowing 43 cents of every dollar we are spending. This situation is a drag on our economy and the future of our country, and it really is not that big of a mystery. We spend entirely too much money on a very large and intrusive government. Now, if you think that is just hunky dory, then you will probably be voting for Obama or Romney. Neither one of them is even slightly serious about doing anything about the actual problem.  The president has a gimmick he is running on: tax super-rich people, make them pay a fair share! There won't be any cutting, there won't be any reforming, and if the last three years are an indication there probably won't be a budget passed, just more spending set to autopilot. Mitt Romney thinks we are not spending nearly enough on our military, even at $700 Billion per year. He will increase it while further cutting taxes and maybe cutting some program some where, but let's not get into any specifics. Mr. Johnson on the other hand talks about submitting a balanced budget in his first year encompassing massive cuts in the government and rolling back much of the state. He spoke of the Department of Defense, Homeland Security, the Department of Education, HUD, the PATRIOT Act and a host of other things that would be cut or disbanded, enough to make enemies of nearly every constituency dependent on Big Government.  And of course that is the real hurdle to overcome; getting everyone to understand that the system itself is broken and needs real reform. This reform is going to have to change everyone's perception of what this government can and should be doing and how far and deep its reach is going to be into our economy and our lives.

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GARRETT QUINN - PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE GARY JOHNSON

April 14,2012
WRKO Boston's Talk Station
Interview with Garrett Quinn

Libertarian Party Presidential nominee, Gary Johnson joins Garrett Quinn today. Mr. Johnson will be in Worcester tomorrow for the Tax Day Tea Party Event. Garrett is thrilled to have the fellow libertarian on the show and the two discuss all the key issues.

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The Jeff Katz Show Interviews Gov. Gary Johnson

April 16, 2012
Talk 1200 Boston
Interview with Jeff Katz

For the Libertarian Party, joins Jeff from Boston to talk about his party affiliation switch from Republican, his candidacy, Mitt Romney, and Barack Obama. His website: www.garyjohnson2012.com


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