Friday, September 7, 2012

Re: Explosive Confrontation Between Netanyahu and American Ambassador

Guten Abend from Köln Everyone!
 
Simplified,  a couple of thoughts, as well as observation.....
 
First, and probably most importantly, most all Nations,   especially those States in the "Middle East/South-West Asia/Northern Africa"  are swayed heavily, and are dependent upon the United States foreign policy.   This  has been so for over a hundred years.   It is not colonialism,  it is because of who we are,;  that image of integrity and fairness.   Overtly and subliminally,   the United States'  foreign policy in the region directly affects what these Nations do internally and with their own domestic and foreign policies.  
 
When the United States is not clear on what direction it is taking, or sends mixed signals,  as it has done under the Obama Administration, thjis causes nothing but confusion and upheaval.
 
There is no consensus to attack Iran,  period. The American people do not have the stomach for any more nation building, and a Romney Administration in my humble opinion,  would dare not attempt such operations. 
 
Finally,   I am confused by our foreign policy to acknowledge Jerusalem as Israel's capital.   Israel was created by the United Nations,  which also created a separate Palestinian Nation-State,  which Israel now refuses to acknowledge or allow.   See UN Resolution 242.  Jerusalem is and was to be an "Open City";  because of it's religious significance to Christianity,  Judaism and Islam.  
 
It would seem to me that the United States' foreign policy should be an uncompromising demand for the Jews to remove their illicit, expansionist encampments in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and for Israel to allow for and acknowledge a separate Palestine.   That alll Arab Nation-States must acknowledge Israel's sovereignty and right to exist.  It goes without saying that Israel has a right to defend itself.   


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:41 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
a US attack on iran is not in the best interest of Americans

On Sep 7, 10:38 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/09/intelligence...
> ****
>  Intelligence Committee Chair Describes Explosive Confrontation Between
> Netanyahu and American Ambassador****
>
> *Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and U.S. Ambassador to Israel
> Dan Shapiro allegedly argued over the Obama's administration's Iran policy.*
> ****
>
> Rep. Mike Rogers, the Michigan Republican who chairs the House Intelligence
> Committee, says that his much-discussed meeting with Israeli Prime Minister
> Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem late last month did, in fact, devolve into
> an sharp confrontation between Netanyahu and the American ambassador to
> Israel, the former National Security Council official (and former Obama
> campaign Jewish liaison), Dan Shapiro.
>
> Rogers told a Michigan radio interviewer earlier this week that he had not
> previously witnessed such a high-level confrontation, and he described
> Israeli leaders as being at "wits' end" over what they see as President
> Obama's unwillingness to provide them with his "red lines" in the effort to
> stop Iran's nuclear program. He also said that neither the Israelis nor the
> Iranians believe that Obama would use force to stop the nuclear program. (*
> UPDATE*: Rogers said as well he believes the Israelis will "probably" bomb
> Iran if they don't get clearer red lines from the U.S.)
>
> Rogers description of the meeting directly contradicts repeated
> Administration assertions that there is "no daylight" on the Iran issue
> with the Israeli government. Shortly after the meeting took place, Israeli
> press reports appeared suggesting  that Netanyahu and Shapiro had engaged
> in an argument, but Shapiro soon dismissed those reports, calling them
> "silly" and saying, "The published account of that meeting did not reflect
> what actually occurred in the meeting. The conversations were entirely
> friendly and professional."
>
> Rogers, speaking to WJR radio host Frank
> Beckmann<http://www.wjr.com/sectional.asp?id=38702>,
> painted a very different picture. He said the meeting, originally scheduled
> to be a discussion of intelligence and technical issues between himself and
> the prime minister, spun out of control when Netanyahu began lambasting
> Shapiro over the Administration's Iran policy. When Beckmann asked Rogers
> to describe the tenor of the meeting, he said: "Very tense. Some very
> sharp... exchanges and it was very, very clear the Israelis had lost their
> patience with the (Obama) Administration." He went on, "There was no doubt.
> You could not walk out of that meeting and think that they had not lost
> their patience with this Administration."
>
> Rogers said Israeli frustration grows from what they see -- and he sees --
> as a refusal by the Obama Administration to outline an endgame: "(I)t was
> very clear the overarching policy has been frustrating mainly because I
> think it's not very clear. What we walked out of that meeting knowing is
> that the Administration was trying to defend itself." By the end, he said,
> there was a "sharp exchange between the Administration's representative
> there, our ambassador there, and Mr. Netanyahu, which was unusual to say
> the least, but I thought at the end of the day maybe productive."
>
> Beckmann then asked: "Is it inaccurate to say it was a shouting match?"
> Rogers answered: "can say that there were elevated concerns on behalf of
> the Israelis." When asked if he had "ever seen that sort of thing before,"
> Rogers answered: "No not that directly. We've had sharp exchanges with
> other heads of state and in intelligence services and other things, but
> nothing at that level that I've seen in all my time where people were
> clearly that agitated, clearly that worked up about a particular issue
> where there was a very sharp exchange."
>
> Rogers went on to describe what he understands to be the Israeli
> frustration, and, apparently, his frustration, with the impact of
> sanctions: "Here's the problem.  "...I support the sanctions. But if you're
> going to have a hammer you have to have an anvil. You have to have at least
> a  credible threat of a military option. So it's having an effect, yes,
> it's having an effect on the Iranian economy. It is not impacting their
> race on enrichment and other things, and that's very very clear." He went
> on, "I think the Israeli position is, 'Hey, listen, you've got to tell us
> -- I mean, if you want us to wait' --  and that's what this
> Administration's been saying, you've gotta wait, you've gotta wait, you've
> gotta wai -- got that -- 'but then you've gotta tell us when is the red
> line so we can make our own decisions about should we or shouldn't we stop
> this particular program."
>
> And Rogers had harsh words for the Administration, which he says has made
> it very clear to the Israelis what they shouldn't do, but hasn't delivered
> a message to the Iranians with the same clarity: "There's a lot of pieces
> in play on this. But I think again, their frustration is that the
> Administration hasn't made it very clea -- they've made it very clear to
> Israel in a public way that they shouldn't do it, but haven't made it very
> clear to Iran in a public way that there will be tougher action, which
> could include -- and I argue peace through strength, so you just need to
> let them understand that that's an option so we can deter them from their
> program. And right now the Israelis don't' believe that the Administration
> is serious when they say that all options are on the table, and more
> importantly neither do the Iranians. That's why the program is progressing."
>
> I'll post more of this interview as it is transcribed, in a few minutes, in
> this space.
>
> *PART II:* When asked by Beckmann at what he believes the Israelis will say
> "enough is enough," Rogers answered: "Certainly when you walk out of that
> meeting you get the feeling that they are finally at wits' end, and that's
> what concerned me about the meeting."
>
> He went on, "I will say that as a part of their decision point or data
> point when they go through the process of should we or shouldn't we, it was
> clear that our American elections have worked its way into one of those
> data points. I thought, well, maybe that hedges their response until maybe
> after the election. But what I got out of that, walking out of that, wa,s
> yeah they're considering it, but at this point they're very frustrated
> because they don't' know what happens after the election, and their window
> for impacting the program they believe is starting to close."
>
> Rogers also said that what he calls Obama's uncertainty has caused problems
> for the U.S. across the Middle East. "You know, it's a very interesting
> argument when you're in the room and talking about options.The meeting was
> designed, it was supposed to be between Netanyahu and myself on some
> intelligence cooperation matters and other matters, when it came to Iran
> and Syria and other things, and kind of devolved into this meeting where
> the  ambassador was confronted directly... what was very apparent to me was
> a lot of frustration with the lack of clarity and the uncertainty about
> what their position is on the Iranian nuclear program. And that's what I
> think I saw across the Middle East. The uncertainty about where the United
> States' position is on those questions has created lots of problems and
> anxiety that I think doesn't serve the world well and doesn't serve peace
> well."
>
> Rogers spoke, as well, about the Iranian nuclear timeline: "So the big
> question is the dash. And the dash is, we know they have an enrichment
> program, it's highly likely they have a weaponization program. You have to
> have both of those parts for a nuclear weapon program. And the dash is when
> does weaponization mean you can put it on a missile and fire it off?
> The Israelis are upset because that dash question seems to be shortening
> and they already believe they have enough enrichment for more than one
> nuclear bomb. That's why their anxiety is high and the United States
> position isn't all that clear." Beckmann then asked Rogers how close the
> Israelis believe that dash period to be. Rogers: "The Israelis believe it's
> short. I mean, Netanyahu made it very clear he thought it was a matter of
> weeks. If they decide to do the dash it could be four weeks to eight weeks,
> which is a month or two months. Our intelligence analysts believe it would
> be a little longer than that. But the problem is, nobody really knows for
> sure. But we do know, and I think everyone agrees, including, you know, our
> European intelligence allies and other things that they are clearly
> marching down this road."
>
> (Thanks to Armin Rosen for transcribing the radio interview)

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Re: Incest Among Consenting Adults: Why Not Allow It?

not my thing. But. Consenting adults is the key term.
What you do and whom you do it with should be none of the governments concern.
Though there is always the issue of the possibility of children.
Unless you are fucking your brother.
In that case. Send me the video....LOL
 

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Harry Reid in Hell




Dr. Eowyn posted: "On August 23, 2012, I wrote a post asking if Reuters is turning against the POS. What prompted my query was this photo of the teleprompter president, taken by Reuters' Kevin Lamarque on August 21, 2012, at the POS's campaign event at Capital University i"
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On August 23, 2012, I wrote a post asking if Reuters is turning against the POS.

What prompted my query was this photo of the teleprompter president, taken by Reuters' Kevin Lamarque on August 21, 2012, at the POS's campaign event at Capital University in Columbus, Ohio:

We now have yet another Reuters photo, taken by Jason Reed, this time of Dingy Harry -- Senate Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) -- when he spoke at the 2012 Democratic National Convention yesterday.

At casual glance, the backdrop of leaping flames behind Reid makes it appear the Demonrat is in hell. LOL

The background actually is a scenic view of Nevada's red canyon rocks, provided by the 2012 DNC, as you can see in this video of Dingy's speech. I suggest you hit your "mute" button first ;)

I'm beginning to really like Reuters....  :D

H/t Drudge Report

~Eowyn

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Biden Gaffe About Dead Father Respecting Obama Explained …

Chew Gum was on Doublemint last night.

Sard posted: " The Looking Spoon"



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Funny Friday – Sept. 7, 2012



hardnox1 posted: " ---------- A man goes to see the Rabbi. ' "Rabbi, something terrible is happening and I have to talk to you about it." The Rabbi asked, "What's wrong?" The man replied, "My wife is poisoning me. The Rabbi, very surprised by this, asks, "How"
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by hardnox1

----------

A man goes to see the Rabbi. '

"Rabbi, something terrible is happening and I have to talk to you about it."

The Rabbi asked, "What's wrong?"

The man replied, "My wife is poisoning me.

The Rabbi, very surprised by this, asks, "How can that be?"

The man then pleads, "I'm telling you, I'm certain she's poisoning me, what should I do?"

The Rabbi then offers, "Tell you what. Let me talk to her, I'll see what I can find out and I'll let you know."

A week later the Rabbi calls the man and says, "I spoke to her on the phone for three hours. You want my advice?

The man said, "Yes" and the Rabbi replied, "Take the poison."

----------

A man walks into a bar with a paper bag. He sits down and places the bag on the counter. The bartender walks up and asks what's in the bag.

The man reaches into the bag and pulls out a little man, about 9" high and sets him on the counter.

He reaches back into the bag and pulls out a small piano, setting it on the counter as well.

He reaches into the bag once again and pulls out a tiny piano bench, which he places in front of the piano.

The little man sits down at the piano, and starts playing a beautiful Piece by Mozart!

Where on earth did you get that?' says the bartender.

The man responds by reaching into the paper bag again.

This time he pulls out a magic lamp. He hands it to the bartender and says: Here, 'Rub it.'

So the bartender rubs the lamp, and suddenly there's a gust of smoke and a beautiful genie is standing before him.

'I will grant you one wish... Just one wish... each person is only allowed one!'

The bartender gets real excited. Without hesitating he says, 'I want a million bucks!'

A few moments later, a duck walks into the bar. It is soon followed by another duck, then another.

Pretty soon, the entire bar is filled with ducks and they keep coming!

The bartender turns to the man and says, 'Ya'know, I think your Genie's' a little deaf. I asked for a million bucks, not a million Ducks.'

'No shit!!' says the man, 'do you really think I asked for a 9 inch pianist?'

----------

Cowboy:  "Give me 3 packets of condoms, please."

Cashier:  "Do you need a paper bag with that, sir?"

Cowboy:  "Nah.... She ain't that ugly."

----------

How do you tell a Romney supporter from an Obama supporter?

Romney supporters sign their checks on the front;

Obama supporters sign 'em on the back.

----------

Have a great Friday and a better weekend.

~ Hardnox

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Ignorance Is Bliss … Until You’re Being Beheaded (Part 3)




AAABTonto posted: " Sharia for America ... Even as I am writing this series, ("Ignorance is Bliss ... Until You're Being Beheaded"), the atrocities of Islam continue to mount. The barbarity of Islam is something that most Westerners simply cannot fathom; and I think there i"

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Ignorance Is Bliss … Until You're Being Beheaded (Part 3)

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Sharia for America ...

Even as I am writing this series, ("Ignorance is Bliss ... Until You're Being Beheaded"), the atrocities of Islam continue to mount. The barbarity of Islam is something that most Westerners simply cannot fathom; and I think there is another reason they refuse to confront it.  Reuters is reporting a Christian girl was arrested under Pakistan's controversial anti-blasphemy law, which means arrest for anyone suspected of causing offense to Islam. The girl may soon be acquitted, though, following the detention of a Muslim cleric on suspicion of planting evidence to frame her. However, Rimsha Masih, whose arrest last month outraged religious and secular groups everywhere, could be in more danger upon her release from jail when she returns to her village. Convictions of the crime are frequent and most convictions are thrown out on appeal. The death sentence has never been carried out, but angry mobs have taken the law into their own hands--killing many people accused of blasphemy. Some of Rimsha Masih's Muslim neighbors are still insisting she be punished, claiming that the detained Imam was a victim.

"Pour petrol and burn these Christians," said Iqbal Bibi, 74, defending the accused Imam from the steps of the mosque where he preaches in Masih's impoverished village of Mehr Jaffer. "The cleric of the mosque has been oppressed. He is not at fault. He is innocent."

This situation begs many questions. One of which is what kind of a man would "plant" evidence in order to frame a little girl? How does a little girl victimize an Imam from prison?  But the greater issue is the question of the law itself. Look at this situation and ask yourself if this what you want to be subjugated to. if you decide to allow Sharia legitimacy on our courts. So all you'll have to do is offend someone and you're gonna end up with legal fees, because you're an infidel and you did something--you don't even know what--and it pissed some poor Muslim off! We're Americans! We piss each other off every day! It's okay. We can let bygones be bygones and work for an alternative in the form of liberty within the limitations set forth in our Founding Documents.

You are not supposed to make your problems other people's problems, okay?

Sharia is an imposition of Islam upon us! They are saying that we have to make their problems our problems; and, if we refuse, then we're already guilty of "blasphemy against Allah"--in their eyes anyway. Now I have made it clear that I am a Christian. I don't mind it if you're Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, or whatever. But you DO NOT get to move here to America and with your own set of rules that you brought with you and start telling us what we're gonna do! We don't have to like each other; we have to live together. NOBODY GETS SPECIAL RULES! (I know we have some corruption issues.) Now, if you are Muslim, and you don't want Sharia either, then we sure would enjoy hearing from you! I understand the implications, though--criticism from your fellow Muslims. But you cannot criticize me for defending my own. My invitation here is a two-way street, and I'm not doing all the walking--you have to come to my side of the street, too. However, as you watch the following video, I don't know if there is much hope for mutual respect.

America is made up of many cultures. There are still many large cities with ethnic neighborhoods and areas; they never got any "special rules." The Irish, Germans, Italians, Chinese, Japanese, Latinos and Greeks all had distinct real estate in our urban centers as they immigrated to America, but they assimilated. They became Americans; they were Americans first and German or Italian--or whatever--second.

The idea that we need to bring this theocratic culture's legal issues--Sharia Law--into our courts and award them legitimacy is nauseatingly preposterous!

But wait ... Sharia is already here!

What Muslims do in their religious affairs should not be given "special conditions" that place added burden and impose on us? If they are going to live in America, then American law is going to rule the day! Do we do this for any other religious group or minority? I don't see and Protestant Zones or Episcopalian-controlled areas. But give it time, I guess? I am talking about a delineated area with an alternative set of legal obligations that supersedes the laws of our Constitutional Republic.

"I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear."
- Barack Obama

Arab Festival 2009 - Sharia in the US *Must See*

Welcome to ShariaTube

Shariamerica: Islam, Obama, and the Establishment Clause

Now, if you are Muslim reading this, it probably won't sink in, but you would be wise to understand that Americans are a charitable and hospitable people. But don't take advantage of us; do not underestimate our resolve. Your rights are no more important than ours, regardless of the what is written in the Qur'an. The superiority you have been taught to believe is yours alone; it is fiction. This country's law is not religious based; this is not a theocracy and you cannot erect one in the middle of our Republic!

You can, however, consider the idea that, maybe, just maybe, you are wrong about Americans. You might give some thought to the idea that maybe the Qur'an is not perfect and that Islam may not be all that it was promised to be. You might find a friend in someone you've been told was your enemy--and we're not inferior!

This is America, our choice of worship is NOT subject to your approval!

Three Stages of Jihad

More Muslim on Muslim atrocities are committed on children in Afghanistan, where Reuters reports a 12 year old boy and a 6 year old girl were beheaded in separate incidents. Regardless, the Muslim brotherhood, CAIR and ISNA are obsessed with trying to convince the West that only Islamophobic racists and bigots could ever be alarmed by the spread of Islam and the implications of Sharia.

More examples of the preferential treatment of Islam:

Egypt Sentences Christian Student Gamal Abdou Massoud to Three Years in Jail for Insulting Islam

U.S. Department of Defense Unveils New Quran Sensitivity Training Program

United Nations Calls for Disciplinary Action against Quran Burners

Sharia Alert: Department of Defense Unveils New Guidelines for Protecting the Quran

Sharia Alert: BBC Director Mark Thompson Admits That Network Treats Islam with More Sensitivity Than Christianity

Sharia Alert: Pennsylvania Judge Dismisses Charges against Muslim Who Assaulted Atheist

My purpose for writing this is to ask Muslims to search their hearts and ask themselves if they can truly accept the violence that is appropriated in the Qur'an.

Part 4 to follow soon …

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Honor Killing With A Twist



burkasrugly posted: "Fellow infidels, Maybe we have been looking at 'honor' killings in the wrong way.  Nevin Yildirim, a 26-year-old Turkish mother of two, was a victim, but not of an honor killing.   After having it drummed into her head from birth that she was respon"
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Fellow infidels,

Maybe we have been looking at 'honor' killings in the wrong way.  Nevin Yildirim, a 26-year-old Turkish mother of two, was a victim, but not of an honor killing.   After having it drummed into her head from birth that she was responsible for her family's honor, she took matters into her own hands and killed her rapist.  And beheaded him.  So, Muslim men, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU POUND INTO YOUR FEMALE'S HEADS REGARDING 'HONOR'. They are taking it very seriously.

You drum it into your women's heads that they are responsible for the actions of your males. These Muslim males apparently cannot control their own sexual urges. It is NOT your females who are to blame for being raped.  You guys to love to blame the victim.  Now the tables are turning.

According to a story posted at cnn.com, Yildirim said the man, Nurettin Gider, began the attacks a few days after her husband left in January for a seasonal job in another town, according to a source close to the case. Yildirim said Gider threatened her with a gun and said he would kill her children, ages 2 and 6, if she made any noise, according to the source. (Just like a Muslim man - using children to achieve his evil ends.) That was the first of repeated rapes over the next eight months, the source said.

And sorry, but I just don't feel like sparing anyone's feelings by using the word 'radical' in front of 'Muslim.'  Because this man was not a radical....he was an average Muslim.  Let's finally tell the truth.  Muslims, you MUST look in the mirror for once in a millennium.

This Muslim man, whose actions seem to be typical of many Muslim men, was a scumbag of the highest order.  He took advantage of this poor woman because her husband was out of town working.  He even sneaked in and took pictures while she was asleep.  He threatened to show her very pregnant pictures to the townspeople.  That would have been disastrous for this woman and her family.

But she got the last laugh.  Finally she had had enough. He was coming back to rape Yildrim again, and she shot him.  Read what happened next from cnn.com:

"I chased him," she said. "He fell on the ground. He started cussing. I shot his sexual organ this time. He became quiet. I knew he was dead. I then cut his head off."

Witnesses described Yildirim walking into the village square, carrying the man's head by his hair, blood dripping on the ground.

"Don't talk behind my back, don't play with my honor," Yildirim said to the men sitting in the coffee-house on the square. "Here is the head of the man who played with my honor."

She threw Gider's head to the ground, the witnesses said.

It would have been great to have seen the look on the men's faces in the coffee-house when Yildrim was holding the severed head of her rapist/tormentor.  There is no doubt that they were totally shocked because normally it is a man who has beheaded  or otherwise murdered a woman who has been raped.

This woman is a HERO.  If women in Muslim countries (and in countries where Muslims are emigrating to) started standing up like this woman did, a lot of this BS raping and so-called 'honor' killing would stop.

Muslim men, its kinda shocking when the shoe is on the other foot, huh?  Hope you all have a nice day (NOT).

Until next time,

Burkasrugly

burkasrugly | September 7, 2012 at 3:34 am | Tags: Honor killing, Muslim rapes, Turkish woman beheads rapist | Categories: Radical Islam | URL: http://wp.me/p1t1Gt-I5

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