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Re: War Pig in a Poke

the best thing about Newt is that he is unelectable

On Jun 5, 9:52 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> the transgressions of Dr.
> Paul
> ---
> can't compare to the lies and deceit of Newt "The Hatchetman"
> Gingrich, who was having an affair while poking his finger at Clinton.
>
> yes ... he's a liar
>
> On Jun 5, 9:22 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Michael cites Moonbats,  who, in typical Moonbat fashion, distorts the
> > truth.
>
> > Plain Ol cites a few Romney supporters who literally lied, and somehow this
> > makes Gingrich a liar.....
>
> > I've become bored with this.   You both forget the transgressions of Dr.
> > Paul,  continuously voting against earmarks that he even submitted for his
> > own district after he was assured that the measure would pass.
>
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:00 AM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > >    You mean those REPUBLICANS in the House and their spending? :)  *Debt
> > > Up $1.59T Under GOP House -- More in 15 Months Than First 97 Congresses
> > > Combined* By Terence P. Jeffrey June 1, 2012
> > >http://cnsnews.com/news/article/debt-159t-under-gop-house-more-15-mon...
> > > guess (without looking) is that spending is an 'upward' curve from the
> > > outset (1789). There may be a blip or two 'downward', but the trend must be
> > > 'upward'.
> > > *Do you have the Mr. Bill versus W numbers?
> > > *Republicans (establishment certainly, but their apparatchiks by default)
> > > demonstrate that they, too, want to spend with impunity ... ONLY the
> > > recipients are slightly different.
>
> > > This is WHY Paul, for instance, has been impugned, cheated, distorted,
> > > smeared, etc. (read the Ron Paul's GOP Battle Reveals Some Truths piece).
>
> > > Regard$,
> > > --MJ
>
> > > The record of the 105th Congress, Republican controlled in both houses, is
> > > an abomination. Spending is up. No major program or agency has been
> > > significantly cut, much less eliminated. The tax code is more complex than
> > > ever, loaded down with new conservative social engineering initiatives. The
> > > balanced-budget agreement is an excuse not to cut taxes and, with the
> > > 'surplus' an excuse to increase spending. The GOP has seemed intent on
> > > federalizing every crime on the books, indifferent to the Constitution's
> > > clear direction that crime is a state and local responsibility….The federal
> > > government is a machine designed to increase its control over the lives of
> > > average Americans. It is constantly probing here, pushing there, and
> > > generally increasing its control. Without a philosophically sound,
> > > constitutionally based political party opposing that process, it is going
> > > to continue to do so with impunity. The philosophical leadership vacuum at
> > > the top of the GOP should be a source of major concern to all
> > > freedom-loving Americans. -- Edward H. Crane
>
> > > At 09:41 AM 6/5/2012, you wrote:
>
> > > And let's compare the alternative:
>
> > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > >  At 11:25 PM 6/4/2012, you wrote:
>
> > > As MJ says, the fallacy never ceases with you. Again, we've been here,
> > > gone over this, and you can't name one, purported lie.
>
> > > "The Republican revolution is a failure, a dismal failure. Despite the
> > > Republican rhetoric about the virtues of conservatism, the benefits of the
> > > free market, and the need for less government intervention in the economy
> > > and society, the Republican majority in both houses of Congress did nothing
> > > but further increase the size and scope of government."
>
> > > What Republican Revolution? By Laurence M. Vance November 11, 2006
> > > Since the Democrats took control of the Congress in the recent midterm
> > > elections, we have heard and seen numerous references to the Republican
> > > victory in the 1994 midterm elections as the Republican revolution of 1994.
> > > What Republican revolution?
> > > We can see the results in history of revolutions like the American
> > > Revolution, the French Revolution, and the Russian Revolution, but what
> > > evidence is there of a Republican revolution?
> > > When the 104th Congress began in January of 1995, it was the first time
> > > since the 83rd Congress of 1953-1955 that the Republicans had control of
> > > both the House and Senate. They had never controlled the House during the
> > > forty-year period of Democratic rule, and only briefly controlled the
> > > Senate, during the 97th through 99th Congresses of 1981-1987. After forty
> > > years of being out of power, a revolution was certainly in order. True, the
> > > Republicans did not yet also control the White House as they did during the
> > > 83rd Congress when Dwight Eisenhower was president, but it is Congress that
> > > writes the laws, not the president. And unlike the Congress under
> > > Eisenhower, which reverted to Democratic rule in the next election, the
> > > Republican control of the Congress under Bill Clinton continued unabated
> > > through the end of his second term.
> > > When what looked like a Republican revolution seemed to stagnate under
> > > Clinton, excuses began to be made for the fact that the Republicans were
> > > acting like anything but the conservatives who voted them into office.
> > > Republican control of the White House, we were told, and a larger
> > > Republican majority in Congress, were needed to complete the revolution.
> > > After all, Clinton could veto any bills passed by a Republican Congress,
> > > and the Republicans did not have a veto-proof majority. It turns out that
> > > in eight years Clinton only vetoed seventeen bills, making Republican fears
> > > unfounded.
> > > And then came George W. Bush.
> > > Republicans were ecstatic. A Republican president was once again elected.
> > > This time, however, things were different. When George Bush was inaugurated
> > > in 2001, he had a Republican-controlled Congress. This is something a
> > > Republican president had not had for forty-five years. The millennium was
> > > now here. The Republican revolution was now ready to be completed.
> > > Enter Jim Jeffords.
> > > The Republican controlled 107th Congress (2001-2003) had a weak link: the
> > > Senate. Jeffords was a Republican senator from Vermont. Early in Bush's
> > > first term, Senator Jeffords switched from Republican to Independent,
> > > changing the 50/50 balance of power in the Senate. Although the House
> > > remained in Republican hands, those hands were tied, so we were told,
> > > because the Republicans no longer controlled the Senate. The Republicans
> > > always seem to have an excuse. Big government, intrusive government ­ it is
> > > always the fault of those evil Democrats.
> > > But then, finally, no more excuses. The midterm elections of 2002 gave us
> > > a new Congress (the 108th, 2003-2005) that was once again solidly
> > > Republican. This gave the Republicans an absolute majority for the last two
> > > years of Bush's first term. This scenario was confirmed by Bush's
> > > reelection and the further increase of the Republican majority in the 109th
> > > Congress. Republicans could no longer blame everything on the Democrats
> > > like they did for so long before they gained their absolute majority.
> > > So, now that the Republicans have controlled the House since 1995, now
> > > that the Republicans have controlled the Senate for the same period except
> > > for about a year and a half, now that a Republican president has been
> > > elected and reelected, and now that we have had several years of an
> > > absolute Republican majority, a simple question needs to be asked: What
> > > Republican revolution?
>
> > > Jacob Hornberger<http://www.lewrockwell.com/hornberger/hornberger108.html>,
> > > the president of the Future of Freedom Foundation <http://www.fff.org/>,
> > > recently asked some pertinent questions about the Republicans: How many
> > > departments were abolished when Republicans controlled the presidency and
> > > both houses of Congress? How many agencies? How many spending bills were
> > > vetoed? How many pork-barrel projects were jettisoned? How much was
> > > federal spending reduced? The answer to every question is, of course, a
> > > big fat zero. No egregious legislation was repealed, and the
> > > welfare/warfare state is bigger and more intrusive than ever. Some
> > > revolution.
> > > Although many Republicans who claim to believe in a limited government can
> > > talk a good conservatism, especially when it comes time for an election,
> > > one statistic is all it takes to see that there has been no limit to the
> > > growth of government under the Republican Party.
> > > On the eve of the new Republican-controlled Congress in 1995, the national
> > > debt was just under $5 trillion. At the time of Bush's first inauguration
> > > in 2001, the national debt stood at $5,727,776,738,304.64. At the time of
> > > his second inauguration in 2005, the national debt stood at
> > > $7,613,772,338,689.34. On the day of the recent midterm elections, the
> > > national debt was up to $8,592,561,542,263.30.
> > > The Republican revolution is a failure, a dismal failure. Despite the
> > > Republican rhetoric about the virtues of conservatism, the benefits of the
> > > free market, and the need for less government intervention in the economy
> > > and society, the Republican majority in both houses of Congress did nothing
> > > but further increase the size and scope of government.
> > > This, of course, comes as no surprise, since the history of the Republican
> > > Party is not one of real conservatism at all; it is the history of
> > > interventionism, big government, the welfare state, the warfare state,
> > > plunder, compromises, and sellouts, as Clyde Wilson<http://www.lewrockwell.com/wilson/wilson20.html>and Thomas
> > > DiLorenzo <http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo84.html> have
> > > showed us in great detail.
> > > Those who voted for a third party candidate for Congress in the recent
> > > election are not the ones who wasted their vote. Republicans who voted for
> > > Republican
>
> ...
>
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Re: Billboards across the US-Something's Happening Out There (I Hope/P...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mRd2B5OJ2Y

On Jun 5, 8:51 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ------------------------------
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> Billboards across the US-Something's Happening Out There (I Hope/Pray)****
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> I think people are waking up.  ****
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> This guy is ruining our Nation. ****
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> *It's interesting to notice that none of these show up in the big cities.
>  Just out in the solid American plains and farmlands.  That tells you
> something.*     ****
>
> *Kansas City, MO  (Original)*      *Kansas City, MO
>   (Current)*       *GRAND JUNCTION, CO* *
> *[image:http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101014/ts_alt_afp/usvotemediapolitics]<http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101014/ts_alt_afp/usvotemediapolitics>
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>
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>
> bank. Pretty much says it all . . .            *Las Vegas, NV*         *
> Unknown*      *Berlin, Germany*                            *Tucson, AZ*
>   *Cedar Rapids, IA*      *Mason City, IA*      *Blue Springs, MO*
>    *Atlanta, GA*        *Barrow County, GA*      *Niles, OH*           *Wheat
> Ridge, CO*          *Atlanta, GA*      *Chehalis, WA*       Remember those
> Burma Shave road signs along those dusty highways of years past? Well,
> check out these Barack Obama road
> signs<http://peregrine5700.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/obama-road-signs-northb...>
> on
> I-5 near Chehalis, WA, 88 miles south of Seattle (cursor down a bit).
>     *West
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> Photoshopped*         *Oshkosh, Wisconsin*     *North Versailles, PA*
>     *Athens,
> Alabama*        *Clovis , NM*          *New York, NY*
> *Beijing, China*        *Why Jimmah Loves Barack*         *Wyoming,
> MN*
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Re: Secret location of Allah found!

Secret location of Allah found
----
the jews say he's on the other side of this wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tB5KtIXdGc

On Jun 5, 10:01 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> PEPSI should sponser a band named "Allah and the Asslifters"
>
> **
>            New post on *Fellowship of the Minds*
> <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/eowyn2/>  Secret location of
> Allah found!<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/secret-location-of-...>by
> Dr. Eowyn <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/eowyn2/>
> *Who knew? LOL*
>
> <http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/soda.jpg>*Photo by
> John Moore/AP*
>
> Text attached to photo says:
>
> 2. Saudi Arabia
>
>  *Consumption, 2003 (gallons): *175.8 million*
> Consumption, 2009 (gallons): *250.1 million*
> Consumption change, 2003 to 2009: *+42.2 percent*
> Average yearly consumption per person (gallons): *8
>
> From "21 Most Soda-Crazed
> Countries<http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2012/06/02/21-most-soda-crazed...>,"
> The Daily Beast.
>
> A big h/t to our Grouchy Fogie!
>
> *~Eowyn*
>  *Dr. Eowyn <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/author/eowyn2/>* | June
> 5, 2012 at 2:00 am | Categories:
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> Islam <http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/?cat=420> | URL:http://wp.me/pKuKY-eQK
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Mitt Romney’s Allegiance to Money and Israel

"What is the basis of Judaism? A practical passion and greed for
profit. To what can we reduce his (the Jew's) religious worship? To
extortion. What is his God? Cash."
Karl Marx
The British Guardian newspaper
(July-August 1924)

Romney wearing Jewish shawl with Israeli friends.
Mitt Romney often boasts of his 25-years of corporate experience. What
he does not tell you, however, is that the corporation which has these
many years groomed and prepared him for high political office is Bain
& Co., an Israeli Mossad global spy operation.

At Bain, Romney's boss, Chairman of the Board, Orit Gadiesh, is an
Israeli citizen and a high ranking Mossad official. Her father was a
general in the Israeli Army. She herself served in uniform as a top
aide to the head of the Israeli Defense Forces. Gadiesh, praised by
Fortune magazine as one of the world's most powerful women, is a
passionate Zionist through and through.

Romney and his Zionist cronies at Bain have been described as the
"Lords of Strategy." In a book of that name, published in 2010, Bain
and Co. is touted as the prototype global corporation for the soulless
New World Order era. The takeover group is the crème de la crème
example of the new-style, 21st century, psychopathic entity that casts
out "outmoded" concepts of patriotism, country, religion, and
nationalism.

Bain and its "Lords of Strategy" operate strictly as a selfishly
motivated global corporation to whom Money alone dictates policy and
aims. In the cold and calculating new Bain & Co. system, called
"Greater Taylorism," there is no U.S.A., no Russia, no Germany, no
Brazil, no borders. There is no morality and no ethics, there is only
money. Everything is measured by money.
The logo for Bain & Company. Right: The 2010 book, The Lords of
Strategy: The Secret Intellectual History of the New Corporate World,
praises Bain & Co. as a masterful example of the new type of money-
driven globalist corporation, an entity devoid of ethical
responsibilities and with no loyalty to country or people.

Neither do workers and individuals matter. Money—and its accumulation—
that is all that counts. The only policy and strategy question is—
what, or which, path will make us more money?

Mitt Romney has promised that, "The first thing I will do after I am
sworn in as President of the U.S.A. is fly to Israel and consult with
that country's leaders."

And what exactly will the newly elected President Romney and his
Jewish superiors in Israel discuss? Why, money, of course. As Karl
Marx said, "Cash is the God of the Jews."

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Banker’s White House Longs For “Yet To Be Vetted” Mitt Romney: Romney Like CFR Agent John McCain, Are Orchestrated To Loose!



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Banker's White House Longs For "Yet To Be Vetted" Mitt Romney: Romney Like CFR Agent John McCain, Are Orchestrated To Loose!

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Insider: Barack Obama wins '12. He gets his second term…the stuff that's gone on now, recently…practice round. The real deal will go down much closer to the election. They got a file – battle plan against Romney. The race angle. That race card will work alongside the Occupy stuff. Divide the country up with race [...]

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Secret location of Allah found!



PEPSI should sponser a band named "Allah and the Asslifters"




New post on Fellowship of the Minds

Secret location of Allah found!

by Dr. Eowyn

Who knew? LOL

Photo by John Moore/AP

Text attached to photo says:

2. Saudi Arabia

Consumption, 2003 (gallons): 175.8 million
Consumption, 2009 (gallons):
250.1 million
Consumption change, 2003 to 2009:
+42.2 percent
Average yearly consumption per person (gallons):
8

From "21 Most Soda-Crazed Countries," The Daily Beast.

A big h/t to our Grouchy Fogie!

~Eowyn

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Re: War Pig in a Poke

the transgressions of Dr.
Paul
---
can't compare to the lies and deceit of Newt "The Hatchetman"
Gingrich, who was having an affair while poking his finger at Clinton.

yes ... he's a liar

On Jun 5, 9:22 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael cites Moonbats,  who, in typical Moonbat fashion, distorts the
> truth.
>
> Plain Ol cites a few Romney supporters who literally lied, and somehow this
> makes Gingrich a liar.....
>
> I've become bored with this.   You both forget the transgressions of Dr.
> Paul,  continuously voting against earmarks that he even submitted for his
> own district after he was assured that the measure would pass.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:00 AM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> >    You mean those REPUBLICANS in the House and their spending? :)  *Debt
> > Up $1.59T Under GOP House -- More in 15 Months Than First 97 Congresses
> > Combined* By Terence P. Jeffrey June 1, 2012
> >http://cnsnews.com/news/article/debt-159t-under-gop-house-more-15-mon...My
> > guess (without looking) is that spending is an 'upward' curve from the
> > outset (1789). There may be a blip or two 'downward', but the trend must be
> > 'upward'.
> > *Do you have the Mr. Bill versus W numbers?
> > *Republicans (establishment certainly, but their apparatchiks by default)
> > demonstrate that they, too, want to spend with impunity ... ONLY the
> > recipients are slightly different.
>
> > This is WHY Paul, for instance, has been impugned, cheated, distorted,
> > smeared, etc. (read the Ron Paul's GOP Battle Reveals Some Truths piece).
>
> > Regard$,
> > --MJ
>
> > The record of the 105th Congress, Republican controlled in both houses, is
> > an abomination. Spending is up. No major program or agency has been
> > significantly cut, much less eliminated. The tax code is more complex than
> > ever, loaded down with new conservative social engineering initiatives. The
> > balanced-budget agreement is an excuse not to cut taxes and, with the
> > 'surplus' an excuse to increase spending. The GOP has seemed intent on
> > federalizing every crime on the books, indifferent to the Constitution's
> > clear direction that crime is a state and local responsibility….The federal
> > government is a machine designed to increase its control over the lives of
> > average Americans. It is constantly probing here, pushing there, and
> > generally increasing its control. Without a philosophically sound,
> > constitutionally based political party opposing that process, it is going
> > to continue to do so with impunity. The philosophical leadership vacuum at
> > the top of the GOP should be a source of major concern to all
> > freedom-loving Americans. -- Edward H. Crane
>
> > At 09:41 AM 6/5/2012, you wrote:
>
> > And let's compare the alternative:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> >  At 11:25 PM 6/4/2012, you wrote:
>
> > As MJ says, the fallacy never ceases with you. Again, we've been here,
> > gone over this, and you can't name one, purported lie.
>
> > "The Republican revolution is a failure, a dismal failure. Despite the
> > Republican rhetoric about the virtues of conservatism, the benefits of the
> > free market, and the need for less government intervention in the economy
> > and society, the Republican majority in both houses of Congress did nothing
> > but further increase the size and scope of government."
>
> > What Republican Revolution? By Laurence M. Vance November 11, 2006
> > Since the Democrats took control of the Congress in the recent midterm
> > elections, we have heard and seen numerous references to the Republican
> > victory in the 1994 midterm elections as the Republican revolution of 1994.
> > What Republican revolution?
> > We can see the results in history of revolutions like the American
> > Revolution, the French Revolution, and the Russian Revolution, but what
> > evidence is there of a Republican revolution?
> > When the 104th Congress began in January of 1995, it was the first time
> > since the 83rd Congress of 1953-1955 that the Republicans had control of
> > both the House and Senate. They had never controlled the House during the
> > forty-year period of Democratic rule, and only briefly controlled the
> > Senate, during the 97th through 99th Congresses of 1981-1987. After forty
> > years of being out of power, a revolution was certainly in order. True, the
> > Republicans did not yet also control the White House as they did during the
> > 83rd Congress when Dwight Eisenhower was president, but it is Congress that
> > writes the laws, not the president. And unlike the Congress under
> > Eisenhower, which reverted to Democratic rule in the next election, the
> > Republican control of the Congress under Bill Clinton continued unabated
> > through the end of his second term.
> > When what looked like a Republican revolution seemed to stagnate under
> > Clinton, excuses began to be made for the fact that the Republicans were
> > acting like anything but the conservatives who voted them into office.
> > Republican control of the White House, we were told, and a larger
> > Republican majority in Congress, were needed to complete the revolution.
> > After all, Clinton could veto any bills passed by a Republican Congress,
> > and the Republicans did not have a veto-proof majority. It turns out that
> > in eight years Clinton only vetoed seventeen bills, making Republican fears
> > unfounded.
> > And then came George W. Bush.
> > Republicans were ecstatic. A Republican president was once again elected.
> > This time, however, things were different. When George Bush was inaugurated
> > in 2001, he had a Republican-controlled Congress. This is something a
> > Republican president had not had for forty-five years. The millennium was
> > now here. The Republican revolution was now ready to be completed.
> > Enter Jim Jeffords.
> > The Republican controlled 107th Congress (2001-2003) had a weak link: the
> > Senate. Jeffords was a Republican senator from Vermont. Early in Bush's
> > first term, Senator Jeffords switched from Republican to Independent,
> > changing the 50/50 balance of power in the Senate. Although the House
> > remained in Republican hands, those hands were tied, so we were told,
> > because the Republicans no longer controlled the Senate. The Republicans
> > always seem to have an excuse. Big government, intrusive government ­ it is
> > always the fault of those evil Democrats.
> > But then, finally, no more excuses. The midterm elections of 2002 gave us
> > a new Congress (the 108th, 2003-2005) that was once again solidly
> > Republican. This gave the Republicans an absolute majority for the last two
> > years of Bush's first term. This scenario was confirmed by Bush's
> > reelection and the further increase of the Republican majority in the 109th
> > Congress. Republicans could no longer blame everything on the Democrats
> > like they did for so long before they gained their absolute majority.
> > So, now that the Republicans have controlled the House since 1995, now
> > that the Republicans have controlled the Senate for the same period except
> > for about a year and a half, now that a Republican president has been
> > elected and reelected, and now that we have had several years of an
> > absolute Republican majority, a simple question needs to be asked: What
> > Republican revolution?
>
> > Jacob Hornberger<http://www.lewrockwell.com/hornberger/hornberger108.html>,
> > the president of the Future of Freedom Foundation <http://www.fff.org/>,
> > recently asked some pertinent questions about the Republicans: How many
> > departments were abolished when Republicans controlled the presidency and
> > both houses of Congress? How many agencies? How many spending bills were
> > vetoed? How many pork-barrel projects were jettisoned? How much was
> > federal spending reduced? The answer to every question is, of course, a
> > big fat zero. No egregious legislation was repealed, and the
> > welfare/warfare state is bigger and more intrusive than ever. Some
> > revolution.
> > Although many Republicans who claim to believe in a limited government can
> > talk a good conservatism, especially when it comes time for an election,
> > one statistic is all it takes to see that there has been no limit to the
> > growth of government under the Republican Party.
> > On the eve of the new Republican-controlled Congress in 1995, the national
> > debt was just under $5 trillion. At the time of Bush's first inauguration
> > in 2001, the national debt stood at $5,727,776,738,304.64. At the time of
> > his second inauguration in 2005, the national debt stood at
> > $7,613,772,338,689.34. On the day of the recent midterm elections, the
> > national debt was up to $8,592,561,542,263.30.
> > The Republican revolution is a failure, a dismal failure. Despite the
> > Republican rhetoric about the virtues of conservatism, the benefits of the
> > free market, and the need for less government intervention in the economy
> > and society, the Republican majority in both houses of Congress did nothing
> > but further increase the size and scope of government.
> > This, of course, comes as no surprise, since the history of the Republican
> > Party is not one of real conservatism at all; it is the history of
> > interventionism, big government, the welfare state, the warfare state,
> > plunder, compromises, and sellouts, as Clyde Wilson<http://www.lewrockwell.com/wilson/wilson20.html>and Thomas
> > DiLorenzo <http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo84.html> have
> > showed us in great detail.
> > Those who voted for a third party candidate for Congress in the recent
> > election are not the ones who wasted their vote. Republicans who voted for
> > Republican candidates hoping that "this time" perhaps the performance of
> > the Republicans might improve are the ones who wasted their vote.
> > Conservatives who, against their better judgment, voted Republican because
> > they feared what would happen if the "liberals" were in control, wasted
> > their vote on a party that deserved to lose. Evangelical Christians who
> > held their nose and voted Republican because they thought they were
> > choosing the lesser of two evils not only wasted their vote, but are sadly
>
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Re: War Pig in a Poke


Keith, of course, spews his standard m.o. Ad hominem -- apparently seeking to 'stop the bleeding'.
He follows up with his regular straw man effort.

Earmarks, of course, simply remove the Executive from directing where already appropriated dollars are sent. You are, of course, welcome to point to where I have 'forgotten the[se] transgressions (whatever that means)', but you will not be successful.
If you were opposed to something, but knew it would be implemented anyhow ... Wouldn't you work to make it the 'best' it could be?

What Ron Paul may or may not have done AND the implications of such is wholly irrelevant to Gingrich -- the Individual YOU made the subject/topic of this thread.

Regard$,
--MJ

�The intellectual level of debate in the Senate and the House is very low, and it�s in that context that Gingrich comes off as more profound than he really is,� Siegel said. �He is the tallest building in Wichita.�




At 10:22 AM 6/5/2012, you wrote:
Michael cites Moonbats,  who, in typical Moonbat fashion, distorts the truth.   
 
Plain Ol cites a few Romney supporters who literally lied, and somehow this makes Gingrich a liar.....
 
I've become bored with this.   You both forget the transgressions of Dr. Paul,  continuously voting against earmarks that he even submitted for his own district after he was assured that the measure would pass. 
 
 
 


 
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:00 AM, MJ <
michaelj@america.net> wrote:
You mean those REPUBLICANS in the House and their spending? :)
Debt Up $1.59T Under GOP House -- More in 15 Months Than First 97 Congresses Combined
By Terence P. Jeffrey
June 1, 2012
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/debt-159t-under-gop-house-more-15-months-first-97-congresses-combined
My guess (without looking) is that spending is an 'upward' curve from the outset (1789). There may be a blip or two 'downward', but the trend must be 'upward'.
Do you have the Mr. Bill versus W numbers?
Republicans (establishment certainly, but their apparatchiks by default) demonstrate that they, too, want to spend with impunity ... ONLY the recipients are slightly different.
This is WHY Paul, for instance, has been impugned, cheated, distorted, smeared, etc. (read the Ron Paul�s GOP Battle Reveals Some Truths piece).
Regard$,
--MJ
The record of the 105th Congress, Republican controlled in both houses, is an abomination. Spending is up. No major program or agency has been significantly cut, much less eliminated. The tax code is more complex than ever, loaded down with new conservative social engineering initiatives. The balanced-budget agreement is an excuse not to cut taxes and, with the �surplus� an excuse to increase spending. The GOP has seemed intent on federalizing every crime on the books, indifferent to the Constitution�s clear direction that crime is a state and local responsibility�.The federal government is a machine designed to increase its control over the lives of average Americans. It is constantly probing here, pushing there, and generally increasing its control. Without a philosophically sound, constitutionally based political party opposing that process, it is going to continue to do so with impunity. The philosophical leadership vacuum at the top of the GOP should be a source of major concern to all freedom-loving Americans. -- Edward H. Crane



At 09:41 AM 6/5/2012, you wrote:
And let's compare the alternative:

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:

At 11:25 PM 6/4/2012, you wrote:
As MJ says, the fallacy never ceases with you. Again, we've been here, gone over this, and you can't name one, purported lie.
"The Republican revolution is a failure, a dismal failure. Despite the Republican rhetoric about the virtues of conservatism, the benefits of the free market, and the need for less government intervention in the economy and society, the Republican majority in both houses of Congress did nothing but further increase the size and scope of government."

What Republican Revolution?
By Laurence M. Vance
November 11, 2006
Since the Democrats took control of the Congress in the recent midterm elections, we have heard and seen numerous references to the Republican victory in the 1994 midterm elections as the Republican revolution of 1994.
What Republican revolution?
We can see the results in history of revolutions like the American Revolution, the French Revolution, and the Russian Revolution, but what evidence is there of a Republican revolution?
When the 104th Congress began in January of 1995, it was the first time since the 83rd Congress of 1953-1955 that the Republicans had control of both the House and Senate. They had never controlled the House during the forty-year period of Democratic rule, and only briefly controlled the Senate, during the 97th through 99th Congresses of 1981-1987.
After forty years of being out of power, a revolution was certainly in order. True, the Republicans did not yet also control the White House as they did during the 83rd Congress when Dwight Eisenhower was president, but it is Congress that writes the laws, not the president. And unlike the Congress under Eisenhower, which reverted to Democratic rule in the next election, the Republican control of the Congress under Bill Clinton continued unabated through the end of his second term.
When what looked like a Republican revolution seemed to stagnate under Clinton, excuses began to be made for the fact that the Republicans were acting like anything but the conservatives who voted them into office. Republican control of the White House, we were told, and a larger Republican majority in Congress, were needed to complete the revolution. After all, Clinton could veto any bills passed by a Republican Congress, and the Republicans did not have a veto-proof majority. It turns out that in eight years Clinton only vetoed seventeen bills, making Republican fears unfounded.
And then came George W. Bush.
Republicans were ecstatic. A Republican president was once again elected. This time, however, things were different. When George Bush was inaugurated in 2001, he had a Republican-controlled Congress. This is something a Republican president had not had for forty-five years. The millennium was now here. The Republican revolution was now ready to be completed.
Enter Jim Jeffords.
The Republican controlled 107th Congress (2001-2003) had a weak link: the Senate. Jeffords was a Republican senator from Vermont. Early in Bush's first term, Senator Jeffords switched from Republican to Independent, changing the 50/50 balance of power in the Senate. Although the House remained in Republican hands, those hands were tied, so we were told, because the Republicans no longer controlled the Senate. The Republicans always seem to have an excuse. Big government, intrusive government � it is always the fault of those evil Democrats.
But then, finally, no more excuses. The midterm elections of 2002 gave us a new Congress (the 108th, 2003-2005) that was once again solidly Republican. This gave the Republicans an absolute majority for the last two years of Bush's first term. This scenario was confirmed by Bush's reelection and the further increase of the Republican majority in the 109th Congress. Republicans could no longer blame everything on the Democrats like they did for so long before they gained their absolute majority.
So, now that the Republicans have controlled the House since 1995, now that the Republicans have controlled the Senate for the same period except for about a year and a half, now that a Republican president has been elected and reelected, and now that we have had several years of an absolute Republican majority, a simple question needs to be asked: What Republican revolution?
Jacob Hornberger, the president of the Future of Freedom Foundation, recently asked some pertinent questions about the Republicans:
How many departments were abolished when Republicans controlled the presidency and both houses of Congress?
How many agencies?
How many spending bills were vetoed?
How many pork-barrel projects were jettisoned?
How much was federal spending reduced?
The answer to every question is, of course, a big fat zero. No egregious legislation was repealed, and the welfare/warfare state is bigger and more intrusive than ever. Some revolution.
Although many Republicans who claim to believe in a limited government can talk a good conservatism, especially when it comes time for an election, one statistic is all it takes to see that there has been no limit to the growth of government under the Republican Party.
On the eve of the new Republican-controlled Congress in 1995, the national debt was just under $5 trillion. At the time of Bush's first inauguration in 2001, the national debt stood at $5,727,776,738,304.64. At the time of his second inauguration in 2005, the national debt stood at $7,613,772,338,689.34. On the day of the recent midterm elections, the national debt was up to $8,592,561,542,263.30.
The Republican revolution is a failure, a dismal failure. Despite the Republican rhetoric about the virtues of conservatism, the benefits of the free market, and the need for less government intervention in the economy and society, the Republican majority in both houses of Congress did nothing but further increase the size and scope of government.
This, of course, comes as no surprise, since the history of the Republican Party is not one of real conservatism at all; it is the history of interventionism, big government, the welfare state, the warfare state, plunder, compromises, and sellouts, as Clyde Wilson and Thomas DiLorenzo have showed us in great detail.
Those who voted for a third party candidate for Congress in the recent election are not the ones who wasted their vote. Republicans who voted for Republican candidates hoping that �this time� perhaps the performance of the Republicans might improve are the ones who wasted their vote. Conservatives who, against their better judgment, voted Republican because they feared what would happen if the �liberals� were in control, wasted their vote on a party that deserved to lose. Evangelical Christians who held their nose and voted Republican because they thought they were choosing the lesser of two evils not only wasted their vote, but are sadly mistaken.
Do I celebrate the Democratic victory in the midterm elections for Congress? Hardly. The socialist and statist policies of the Democratic Party are well known, but at least Democrats are usually honest about being advocates of bigger government and increased government intervention instead of masquerading as advocates of smaller and less intrusive government like the hypocritical Republicans do.
It is too bad that the Republicans did not at least win control of the Senate (the Senate is now 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans, and 2 liberal Independents). It is great to have gridlock between a Democratic Congress and a Republican president, but it is better to have gridlock between the House and Senate as well. We can only hope and pray that this government comes to a grinding halt � for the sake of the liberties of the American people.

**JP** Fw: Confused nation



--- On Tue, 5/6/12, Farhan Safeer Qureshi <farhan.safeer@zil.com.pk> wrote:

From: Farhan Safeer Qureshi <farhan.safeer@zil.com.pk>
Subject: Confused nation
To: "Farhan Safeer Qureshi" <farhan.safeer@zil.com.pk>
Date: Tuesday, 5 June, 2012, 1:35 PM

 

 

Confused nation want to

 

study in UK,

 

work in USA or UAE,

 

live in Canada,

 

die in Makkah,

 

buried in Madinah.

 

speak in English,

 

eat Chinese rice, Italian pizza and Russian salad,

 

use only Japanese electronics,

 

spend vacations in Europe,

 

watch Indian movies,

 

listen English music,

 

but

 

Where is Pakistan ?

 

and

 

Who wants to be a Pakistani ?

 

Just think about it !

 

 

 

 

 

 

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**JP** Fw: Observation



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Date: Tuesday, 5 June, 2012, 1:36 PM

 


 

1st year students of MBBS were attending their 1st anatomy class.


They all gathered around the surgery table with a real dead dog.



The Professor started class by telling two important qualities as a Doctor.



The 1st is that


For e.g.
He inserted his finger in dog's mouth & on drawing back tasted it in his own mouth.

Then he said them to do the same.


The students hesitated for several minutes.


But eventually everyone inserted their fingers in dog's mouth & then tasted it.


When everyone finished,

the Professor looked at them and said:

The most important 2nd quality is
OBSERVATION,


I inserted my Middle finger but tasted the Index finger.

Now learn to "observe" and pay attention
Ha ha ha ha ha



 

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