Saving The Constitution
by One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet
"During World War II, my father was a pilot and carried a sidearm. After the war, he continued to carry the same sidearm while working for an airline. He retired prior to 9-11, but had he been one of the pilots of a skyjacked plane that day, there is no doubt that .45 slugs would have sent each of the swine to paradise. He would have needed no Grand Jury, no letters to a congressman, no demonstration, marching, or sending e-mails. He would have shot all five dead. Count on it."
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/03/18/this-is-our-right-and-our-duty/
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Friday, March 18, 2011
Missouri Groups Fight Back Against Traffic Camera Astroturf Campaign
If we want to restore limited, honest government we have to begin locally. What act of civil disobedience did you perform today?
Missouri Groups Fight Back Against Traffic Camera Astroturf Campaign
Photo enforcement firm uses public relations firm to create illusion of grassroots support for automated ticketing.
Grassroots anti-camera activists in Missouri yesterday charged that a photo enforcement firm was creating fake advocacy groups to promote the use of red light cameras and speed cameras. Wrong on Red and the Jefferson County Tea Party blasted American Traffic Solutions (ATS) for hiding its involvement in a slick advertising effort designed to persuade the legislature to allow photo ticketing to continue uninterrupted in the state.
"I think it's clear that ATS is afraid of us," John Burns of the Jefferson County Tea Party said in a statement. "ATS has good reason to fear us. We've been building a statewide grassroots effort to ban the cameras. People are mad as hell. We're in the middle of an economic recession, and these traffic cameras constitute a regressive tax, hurting the poorest among us, the most."
In March last year, the photo ticketing industry turned to the Washington, DC-based Storm King Strategies LLC, a lobbying firm that focuses on the transportation sector, for help. Storm King is headed by David Kelly, who was chief of staff of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration during the latter half of the Bush administration. Kelly used funding from traffic camera firms to set up the Partnership for Advancing Road Safety (PARS) as a platform to gain media attention on the photo ticketing issue without disclosing that he was speaking on behalf of his clients.
The strategy backfired when Kelly testified June 30 before a meeting of the US House Transportation Subcommittee on Highways and Transit. The chairman at the time, Peter DeFazio (D-Oregon), and the ranking member, John J. Duncan (R-Tennessee), both dismissed his testimony as that of a hired gun, questioning why Redflex and ATS refused to appear before the committee openly. The PARS website, which was set up by the public relations firm APCO Worldwide, has been disabled.
ATS has replaced PARS with the National Coalition for Safer Roads, through which Storm King has conducted media interviews and created an advertising campaign to promote camera use in Missouri without identifying the group as a creation funded by the camera industry. Kelly's other current clients include the Coalition of Ignition Interlock Manufacturers which wants Congress to require installation of expensive breathalyzer devices installed in all cars, the National Safety Council which wants more ticketing through distracted driving laws, and Jaguar-Land Rover which wants lower CAFE standards. According to congressional lobbyist disclosure records, these clients have paid about $380,000 for Kelly's services. WrongOnRed founder Matt Hay doesn't think Kelly's effort will work.
"This is ATS' last frivolous attempt to fool the Missouri public," Hay said in a statement. "To fool residents just like they do thousands of times a day with the unauthorized systems they use to generate millions of dollars off Missouri taxpayers, while encouraging cities to help them profit off poorly engineered intersections and shortened yellows."
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Missouri Groups Fight Back Against Traffic Camera Astroturf Campaign
Photo enforcement firm uses public relations firm to create illusion of grassroots support for automated ticketing.
Grassroots anti-camera activists in Missouri yesterday charged that a photo enforcement firm was creating fake advocacy groups to promote the use of red light cameras and speed cameras. Wrong on Red and the Jefferson County Tea Party blasted American Traffic Solutions (ATS) for hiding its involvement in a slick advertising effort designed to persuade the legislature to allow photo ticketing to continue uninterrupted in the state.
"I think it's clear that ATS is afraid of us," John Burns of the Jefferson County Tea Party said in a statement. "ATS has good reason to fear us. We've been building a statewide grassroots effort to ban the cameras. People are mad as hell. We're in the middle of an economic recession, and these traffic cameras constitute a regressive tax, hurting the poorest among us, the most."
In March last year, the photo ticketing industry turned to the Washington, DC-based Storm King Strategies LLC, a lobbying firm that focuses on the transportation sector, for help. Storm King is headed by David Kelly, who was chief of staff of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration during the latter half of the Bush administration. Kelly used funding from traffic camera firms to set up the Partnership for Advancing Road Safety (PARS) as a platform to gain media attention on the photo ticketing issue without disclosing that he was speaking on behalf of his clients.
The strategy backfired when Kelly testified June 30 before a meeting of the US House Transportation Subcommittee on Highways and Transit. The chairman at the time, Peter DeFazio (D-Oregon), and the ranking member, John J. Duncan (R-Tennessee), both dismissed his testimony as that of a hired gun, questioning why Redflex and ATS refused to appear before the committee openly. The PARS website, which was set up by the public relations firm APCO Worldwide, has been disabled.
ATS has replaced PARS with the National Coalition for Safer Roads, through which Storm King has conducted media interviews and created an advertising campaign to promote camera use in Missouri without identifying the group as a creation funded by the camera industry. Kelly's other current clients include the Coalition of Ignition Interlock Manufacturers which wants Congress to require installation of expensive breathalyzer devices installed in all cars, the National Safety Council which wants more ticketing through distracted driving laws, and Jaguar-Land Rover which wants lower CAFE standards. According to congressional lobbyist disclosure records, these clients have paid about $380,000 for Kelly's services. WrongOnRed founder Matt Hay doesn't think Kelly's effort will work.
"This is ATS' last frivolous attempt to fool the Missouri public," Hay said in a statement. "To fool residents just like they do thousands of times a day with the unauthorized systems they use to generate millions of dollars off Missouri taxpayers, while encouraging cities to help them profit off poorly engineered intersections and shortened yellows."
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After Strike, Pakistan Cancels US-Afghan Talks
Could the strike have been a deliberate attempt to continue unrest in the Middle East?
After Strike, Pakistan Cancels US-Afghan Talks
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_PAKISTAN?SITE=COCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
"Pakistan's powerful army chief has already criticized Thursday's missile attack on a house close to the Afghan border in a rare personal statement. Intelligence officials say around 36 people - most of them civilians - were killed. A U.S. official familiar with details denied that innocent people were targeted and suggested all the dead were militants or sympathizers."
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After Strike, Pakistan Cancels US-Afghan Talks
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_PAKISTAN?SITE=COCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
"Pakistan's powerful army chief has already criticized Thursday's missile attack on a house close to the Afghan border in a rare personal statement. Intelligence officials say around 36 people - most of them civilians - were killed. A U.S. official familiar with details denied that innocent people were targeted and suggested all the dead were militants or sympathizers."
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Nullifying Tyranny
Nullifying Tyranny
By George C. Leef
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=1371
"Why shouldn't state governments have at least as much authority to overturn unconstitutional acts as the courts? The states, after all, came together to form the compact called The United States of America. Moreover, state governments are more accountable to the people than are judges serving lifetime appointments on appellate courts. (Government accountability is a weak reed, but at least it is possible to vote out governors and state legislators.)"
"Backbone! No talk about trying to vote out the politicians who had supported the Fugitive Slave Act and repealing it. No talk of going to court to challenge its constitutionality. They just did it -- civil disobedience by a whole state. What a great lesson."
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By George C. Leef
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=1371
"Why shouldn't state governments have at least as much authority to overturn unconstitutional acts as the courts? The states, after all, came together to form the compact called The United States of America. Moreover, state governments are more accountable to the people than are judges serving lifetime appointments on appellate courts. (Government accountability is a weak reed, but at least it is possible to vote out governors and state legislators.)"
"Backbone! No talk about trying to vote out the politicians who had supported the Fugitive Slave Act and repealing it. No talk of going to court to challenge its constitutionality. They just did it -- civil disobedience by a whole state. What a great lesson."
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Security Freaks - Another Wonderful TSA Experience
Security Freaks
http://www.lewrockwell.com/cooper/cooper36.1.html
"Of course, such irreverent talk to a federal divinity is not permitted in the land of the "free," so the circus began. Immediately a supervisor lap dog was summoned along with a super-duper supervisor lap dog and two of Sherwood Forest’s finest. The supervisor lap dog told me I wouldn’t be flying since I wouldn’t let them touch my beans and franks. Yet another TSA troglodyte took my driver’s license and boarding pass and began writing me up for after school detention as at least three other TSA trolls began rifling through my backpack and shaving kit looking for the meaning to their useless lives. I have to wonder why they were searching my personal affects if I wasn’t going to be allowed to fly. I guess I’m just not smart enough to understand the really important things in life."
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/cooper/cooper36.1.html
"Of course, such irreverent talk to a federal divinity is not permitted in the land of the "free," so the circus began. Immediately a supervisor lap dog was summoned along with a super-duper supervisor lap dog and two of Sherwood Forest’s finest. The supervisor lap dog told me I wouldn’t be flying since I wouldn’t let them touch my beans and franks. Yet another TSA troglodyte took my driver’s license and boarding pass and began writing me up for after school detention as at least three other TSA trolls began rifling through my backpack and shaving kit looking for the meaning to their useless lives. I have to wonder why they were searching my personal affects if I wasn’t going to be allowed to fly. I guess I’m just not smart enough to understand the really important things in life."
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TSA Union: Creating a More Stable, Professional and Productive Workforce
TSA Union: Creating a More Stable, Professional and Productive Workforce
March 18, 2011 by Douglas French
The existence of unions has been explained as the need for individual workers to have a voice when negotiating with the power wielded by capitalists. In his paper "Working Class Power, Capitalist Class Interests, and Class Compromise" professor Erik Olin Wright explains,
- both workers and capitalists are internally heterogeneous as social categories, and this heterogeneity also impacts on their material interests. Capitalists are differentiated by sector, geographical scope of transactions (local, national, multinational capital), and many other factors; workers are differentiated by such things as sectors, skills, and the nature of the firm in which they are employed, not to mention race, gender and other non-class forms of social division. The material interests of real workers and capitalists are certainly affected by these dimensions of internal differentiations.
- The relationship between working class power and capitalist class interests remains a reverse-J relation, and capitalists will thus always be tempted, when historical opportunities occur, to try to move to toward the "capitalist utopia" of weak working class associational power. This option needs to be foreclosed in order for the new possibilities of productivist class compromises to become attractive to capitalists. Closing off this option requires state intervention, and this implies that removing the "low road" path of an atomized working class with relatively low wages and low skills ultimately depends upon the revitalization of a mobilized political forces supporting an effective economic program of "associational productivism."
If this all makes sense to you, then Colleen M. Kelley's letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal is right up your alley. It seems the WSJ ran a piece critical of the unionization of TSA workers and Ms. Kelley, who is National President of the National Treasury Employees Union (one of two unions vying to represent TSA staff) responded, providing labor union logic for how a union will help not only TSA workers but travelers as well.
Ms. Kelley writes that collective bargaining will not only improve employee working conditions but "create a more stable, professional and productive workforce." She goes on to instruct us that "employees organize and bargain collectively because they care about public service and want to make it better."
Most travelers don't know this but the TSA has a high attrition rate as well as "significant injury rates," "low employee morale," and "uneven application of rules from airport to airport." I can't in my wildest dreams imagine how a single TSA worker could be injured on the job, let alone many of them. But travelers stare into the face of low TSA morale each and every time they travel by air. And anyone who flies a lot knows there are differences between the various airport TSA requirements and procedures.
So it's curious that union president Kelley would write, "it is easy to forget that the piecemeal private company approach to airport security contributed to the tragic events of September 11; that is what led to the creation of the TSA." The TSA is piecemeal itself and not all that effective in stopping box cutters from making it onto flights.
By the way, Kelley says the first responders to the World Trade Center after the attack were union members, "and their collective bargaining agreements in no way kept them from risking their lives to save others." She makes no mention of the acts of heroism of many non-union members that were working inside the towers when the planes hit and had the guts and presence of mind not to just escape but to help others.
"When workers have a voice in their workplace, everyone wins," Ms. Kelley concludes her letter with a flourish. Where is the capitalist power structure in this struggle for TSA worker rights? There is none. The TSA is state intervention itself writ large and yet its employees require associational power to improve their working conditions and morale. And we are supposed to believe that unionizing TSA employees will make air travel more efficient and pleasurable for the consumer?
Karl Marx himself wouldn't buy this nonsense.
Big Ag Lobbies to Make it Illegal to Secretly Film Animal Abuse
Big Ag Lobbies to Make it Illegal to Secretly Film Animal Abuse
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/03/big-ag-lobbies-want-to-make-it-illegal.html
"Big Agribusiness is fed up with pesky animal rights activists who expose abuses of farm animals on film. According to the Associated Press, agriculture committees in the Iowa state government have approved a bill to outlaw secret filming of animal abuses and punish the accused with a $7500 fine and up to five years in jail."
"Bradley Miller, director of the Humane Farming Association, had this to say to the AP:
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http://www.activistpost.com/2011/03/big-ag-lobbies-want-to-make-it-illegal.html
"Big Agribusiness is fed up with pesky animal rights activists who expose abuses of farm animals on film. According to the Associated Press, agriculture committees in the Iowa state government have approved a bill to outlaw secret filming of animal abuses and punish the accused with a $7500 fine and up to five years in jail."
"Bradley Miller, director of the Humane Farming Association, had this to say to the AP:
"They're trying to intimidate whistle blowers and put a chill on legitimate anti-cruelty investigations. Clearly the industry feels that it has something to hide or it wouldn't be going to these extreme and absurd lengths."
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Pakistanis Riot After $2.3m "Blood Money" Deal With U.S.
Riots In Pakistan After Secret Deal With U.S. To Pay $2.3m 'Blood Money' To Free Cia Agent Who Shot Dead Two Men
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366799/Raymond-Allen-Davis-Pakistan-riots-deal-US-pay-2-3m-free-CIA-agent.html
"There was rioting on the streets of Pakistan tonight after a CIA agent who shot two men dead was released over a secret 'blood money' pact with the U.S."
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366799/Raymond-Allen-Davis-Pakistan-riots-deal-US-pay-2-3m-free-CIA-agent.html
"There was rioting on the streets of Pakistan tonight after a CIA agent who shot two men dead was released over a secret 'blood money' pact with the U.S."
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Obama's Picks
 | Obama's Picksdoctorbulldog | 17 March, 2011 at 12:56 pm | Categories: Obama Sucks, politics | URL: http://wp.me/p1NPg-6XB |
Yup, that pretty much sums it up:
H/T - Paulycy
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Education Secretary wants NCAA reform...says March Madness Rewards Teams with Poor Academics
And what does that NAMBLA loving, boy poking POS know about education much less basketball?
 | Education Secretary wants NCAA reform...says March Madness Rewards Teams with Poor AcademicsScotty Starnes | March 18, 2011 at 8:30 AM | Tags: Education Secretary Arne Duncan, March Madness, NCAA | Categories: Political Issues | URL: http://wp.me/pvnFC-4M9 |
Our education system sucks and the Secretary of Education is worried about college basketball teams with poor academics playing in the NCAA tournament. How about concentrating on our public schools and why test scores haven't improved over the past 50 + years?
ABCNews reports:
ABC News' Mary Bruce Reports: Education Secretary Arne Duncan, a well-known basketball fan and former pro player, frequently plays hoops with President Obama, but today he's taking on the NCAA in a full court press.
Guess Duncan is upset because ESPN didn't ask him to fill out his bracket like they did Obama.
Duncan today called for the NCAA to impose stricter academic requirements on teams, saying schools that graduate less than half of their players should be banned from "post season glory."
"If you can't manage to graduate half of your players, how serious is the institution and the coach and the program about their players' academic success? Are you actually preparing your student athletes for success just on the court, or in life?" Duncan told reporters on a conference call this afternoon.
Most of these players couldn't get into college without special treatment and academic exemptions. The only reason they're in college is due to their athletic abilities, not academic qualification.
Based on the Secretary's benchmark, ten of the 68 men's teams in this year's March Madness would be ineligible.
Duncan highlighted financial revenue as a key piece of the puzzle and called out institutions for "making millions on their players backs."
Let me guess. The Obama regime wants a cut of the profit?
According to a report by the Knight Commission, over the past five years $179 million, almost half of the money awarded for appearances in the tournament, went to teams that failed to graduate at least half their players.
...Only eight men's teams in this year's tournament graduated 100 percent of their black and white players in recent years, including Illinois, Villanova and Utah State. In the women's tournament, one in three teams are graduating 100 percent of their white and black players.
Several schools have huge discrepancies. Kansas State, for example, graduated 100 percent of their white players, but only 14 percent of black players, an 86 percent discrepancy. At UC Santa Barbara it's a 67 percent difference. At USC it's 62 percent.
Oh...its about skin color. Nothing shocking considering this administration is obsessed with race.
A significant gap also exists between the women's and men's team. At the University of Connecticut, for example, more than 90 percent of the white and black players on the women's team graduate. The men's team, however, is barely on track to graduate half of their players and only 25 percent of black players earn a degree.
Did they take into consideration that many of these players drop out to turn professional to earn millions of dollars? Concentrate on our public school kids that are suffering from our terrible liberal education system.
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The Bill of Rights: Antipathy to Militarism
The Bill of Rights: Antipathy to Militarism
by Jacob G. Hornberger, Posted December 3, 2004
This article was originally published in the September 2004 edition of Freedom Daily.
The Third Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides that "no Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."
Obviously, the Third Amendment has little relevance today. But what is relevant for us today is the mindset that underlay the passage of that amendment a mindset of deep antipathy toward militarism and standing armies. Our ancestors' fierce opposition to a powerful military force was consistent with their overall philosophy that guided the formation of the Constitution and the passage of the Bill of Rights.
While the Framers understood the need for a federal government, what concerned them was the possibility that such a government would become a worse menace than no government at all. Their recent experience with the British government which of course had been their government and against which they had taken up arms had reinforced what they had learned through their study of history: that the biggest threat to the freedom and well-being of a people was their own government.
Thus, after several years operating under the Articles of Confederation, the challenge the Framers faced was how to bring a federal government into existence that would be sufficiently powerful to protect their rights and liberties but that would not also become omnipotent and tyrannical.
Their solution was the Constitution, a document that would call the federal government into existence but limit its powers to those expressly enumerated in the document itself. Thus, a close examination of the Constitution shows that the powers of the U.S. government originate in it. The idea was that if a power wasn't enumerated, federal officials were precluded from exercising it.
Even that, however, was not good enough for our American ancestors. They wanted an express restriction on the abridgement of what had become historically recognized as fundamental and inherent rights of the people. In other words, they wanted what could be considered an express insurance policy for the protection of their rights. While government officials could not lawfully exercise powers that were not enumerated in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights would make the point even more emphatically that federal officials had no authority to abridge the fundamental rights of the people.
The Constitution provided other measures to protect against the rise of omnipotent and tyrannical government. One was the division of government into three separate branches, with the aim of establishing a system of "checks and balances" that would prevent the rise of powerful centralized government. Another was the Second Amendment, which ensured that the people would retain the means of resisting tyranny or even violently overthrowing a tyrannical government should the need arise.
Given their view that the federal government they were bringing into existence constituted the biggest threat to their freedom and well-being, constantly on the minds of our ancestors was the primary means by which governments had historically subjected their people to tyranny through the use of the government's military forces. That is the primary reason for the deep antipathy that the Founders had for an enormous standing military force in their midst. They understood fully that if such a force existed, their own government would possess the primary means by which governments have always imposed tyranny on their own people.
Using armies for tyranny
Historically, governments had misused standing armies in two ways, both of which ultimately subjected the citizenry to tyranny. One was to engage in faraway wars, which inevitably entailed enormous expenditures, enabling the government to place ever-increasing tax burdens on the people. Such wars also inevitably entailed "patriotic" calls for blind allegiance to the government so long as the war was being waged. Consider, for example, the immortal words of James Madison, who is commonly referred to as "the father of the Constitution":
- Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people.... [There is also an] inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and ... degeneracy of manners and of morals.... No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
Consider again the words of Madison:
- A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.
Sound familiar?
The Founding Fathers
Here is how Henry St. George Tucker put it in Blackstone's 1768 Commentaries on the Laws of England:
- Wherever standing armies are kept up, and when the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.
- A standing army we shall have, also, to execute the execrable commands of tyranny; and how are you to punish them? Will you order them to be punished? Who shall obey these orders? Will your mace-bearer be a match for a disciplined regiment?
- ... that standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, and therefore ought to be avoided, as far as the circumstances and protection of the community will admit; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.
- that the people have a Right to bear Arms for the Defence of the State, and as Standing Armies in Time of Peace are dangerous to Liberty, they ought not to be kept up, and that the military should be kept under strict Subordination to, and governed by the Civil Power.
- ... as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military shall be kept under strict subordination to and be governed by the civil power.
- Wrenching memories of the Old World lingered in the 13 original English colonies along the eastern seaboard of North America, giving rise to deep opposition to the maintenance of a standing army in time of peace. All too often the standing armies of Europe were regarded as, at best, a rationale for imposing high taxes, and, at worst, a means to control the civilian population and extort its wealth.
- [The Declaration of Independence] listed the colonists' grievances, including the presence of standing armies, subordination of civil to military power, use of foreign mercenary soldiers, quartering of troops, and the use of the royal prerogative to suspend laws and charters. All of these legal actions resulted from reliance on standing armies in place of the militia.
- The experience of the early Middle Ages had instilled in the English people a deep aversion to the professional army, which they came to associate with oppressive taxes, and physical abuses of their persons and property (and corresponding fondness for their traditional institution the militia). This development was to have a profound effect on the development of civil rights in both England and the American colonies.... During the seventeenth century, problems associated with the involuntary quartering of soldiers and the maintenance of standing armies became crucial issues propelling the English nation toward civil war.
In their minds, the military bedrock of a free society lay not in an enormous standing army but rather in the concept of the citizen-soldier the person in ordinary life in civil society who is well-armed and well-trained in the use of weapons and who is always ready in times of deepest peril to come to the aid of his country but only to defend against invasion and not to go overseas to wage wars of aggression or wars of "liberation." As John Quincy Adams put it in his July 4, 1821, address to Congress, America "does not go abroad, in search of monsters to destroy."
U.S. foreign policy
Are the ideas and principles of the Founding Fathers relevant today? They couldn't be more relevant. Many decades ago, President Dwight Eisenhower warned us about the growing power of the military-industrial complex in American life. Unfortunately, the American people failed to heed his warning. The result has been an ever-growing military cancer that is bringing death, ruin, shame, and economic disaster to our nation just as our Founding Fathers said it would.
More and more people are finally recognizing that the anger and hatred that foreigners have for the United States is rooted in morally bankrupt, deadly, and destructive foreign policies policies that have been enforced by America's enormous standing military force. The resulting blow-back in terms of terrorist attacks, such as those on the World Trade Center in 1993 and 2001, have been used as the excuse for waging more wars thousands of miles away, and those wars have produced even more anger and hatred, with the concomitant threat of even more terrorist counter-responses. All that, in turn, has provided the excuse for more foreign interventions, ever-increasing military budgets, consolidation of power, increasing taxes, and massive infringements on the civil liberties of the American people.
It is not a coincidence that the president's indefinite detention and punishment of American citizens for suspected terrorist crimes without according them due process, habeas corpus, right to counsel, jury trials, freedom of speech, or other fundamental rights guaranteed by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are being enforced by the standing army that our ancestors warned us against. And make no mistake about it: Given orders of their commander in chief, especially in a "national security crisis," to establish "order" in America, U.S. soldiers will do the same thing that soldiers throughout history have done they will obey the orders given to them. Just ask the survivors of the massacre at the Branch Davidian compound at Waco or the victims of rape and sex abuse at Abu Graib prison in Iraq or Jose Padilla, an American citizen who is currently in Pentagon custody, where he has been denied due process, habeas corpus, and other rights accorded by the U.S. Constitution.
In determining the future direction of our nation, the choice is clear: Do we continue down the road of empire, standing armies, foreign wars and occupations, and sanctions and embargoes, along with the taxes, regulations, and loss of liberty that inevitably come with them? Do we continue a foreign policy, enforced by the U.S. military, that engenders ever-increasing anger and hatred among the people of the world, which then engenders violent "blowback" against Americans, which is in turn used to justify more of the same policies?
Or do we change direction and move our nation in the direction of the vision of our Founding Fathers toward liberty and the restoration of a republic to our nation toward a society in which the government is limited to protecting the nation from invasion and barred from invading or attacking foreign nations a world in which the United States is once again the model society for freedom, prosperity, peace, and harmony a nation in which the Statue of Liberty once again becomes a shining beacon for those striving to escape the tyranny and oppression of their own governments?
Jacob Hornberger is founder and president of The Future of Freedom Foundation.
Limericks About Liberals
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Former Insider Reveals Big Oil’s End Game
I heard Lindsey Williams on a talk show in October 2010 -- when crude oil prices were less than $82 per barrel -- state that crude oil would be pushed to $150 per barrel by Summer 2011.
Former Insider Reveals Big Oil's End Game
By Pat Shannan
Forty years ago, author Lindsey Williams served as chaplain for the oil companies that built the Trans-Alaska oil pipeline. During the 1970s — invited to sit in on highly secret meetings — Williams inadvertently learned the long-term plans regarding the Middle East and the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or OPEC. The title of his noted book, The Energy Non-Crisis, a few years later highlighted Williams's whistle-blowing on this matter. But what Williams has to say today may help us understand why regimes are being challenged or toppled in various countries in the growing unrest in the Middle East.
According to Williams, the deal was consummated decades ago when Henry Kissinger came to terms with the Middle Eastern oil-rich nations, agreeing that the United States would make them very wealthy by buying their oil. Although the United States has enough oil in Alaska alone to last for several centuries, America would largely agree to leave it underground and produce limited amounts of oil in the United States.
In return, the oil sheiks would take a portion of their oil-sales income and buy U.S. debt, including Treasury securities and other paper—something Williams reported three decades ago.
The new information that he has gone public with is that the elite are about to renege on the deal and double cross those nations and OPEC—and it is ultimately about furtherance of the New World Order.
In Williams's view, the crisis in Egypt was exacerbated by the CIA with paid agitators. And although they did not initiate the unrest, the Muslim Brotherhood is being manipulated by the elite in the crisis areas in the aftermath.
The prediction is that, because of the ongoing crisis and the continued decline of the dollar, oil will go to $150 and then to $200 a barrel before the year is out. When it reaches these levels, Williams says, the plan is to cease purchasing oil from the Middle East and begin extracting it from Gull Island in Alaska's Prudhoe Bay, from the nearby Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) in Alaska, and from the Bakken formation where North Dakota meets Canada.
In addition, 2 trillion barrels of shale oil lie beneath the Rocky Mountains may be tapped. Such a welcome retaliation to the Arab oil czars will certainly be applauded by the American people, who will be told that it is being done to lower prices at U.S. pumps. However, when such a result never comes and gasoline prices soar to $6 a gallon anyway, the American people will realize, too late again, that the only change made has been in who harvests the vast profits.
AFP has reported extensively in recent years on both the Bakken formation and Gull Island, pointing out the practical need to tap those huge domestic oil sources, along with using bio-fuels, ethanol and other alternatives, so the U.S. can become more oil-independent but also rely on a variety of fuels to boost the overall economy through diversification.
If Williams is correct and the "end game" is to bring the United States more fully into the NWO, then much has already been accomplished toward that goal by shipping U.S. jobs and factories overseas, and by the decline of the dollar. China could conceivably replace the U.S. as the top world power, and the dollar would no longer be the world's reserve currency.
Never, ever interact with a government official without having a recorder running.
Former Insider Reveals Big Oil's End Game
By Pat Shannan
Forty years ago, author Lindsey Williams served as chaplain for the oil companies that built the Trans-Alaska oil pipeline. During the 1970s — invited to sit in on highly secret meetings — Williams inadvertently learned the long-term plans regarding the Middle East and the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or OPEC. The title of his noted book, The Energy Non-Crisis, a few years later highlighted Williams's whistle-blowing on this matter. But what Williams has to say today may help us understand why regimes are being challenged or toppled in various countries in the growing unrest in the Middle East.
According to Williams, the deal was consummated decades ago when Henry Kissinger came to terms with the Middle Eastern oil-rich nations, agreeing that the United States would make them very wealthy by buying their oil. Although the United States has enough oil in Alaska alone to last for several centuries, America would largely agree to leave it underground and produce limited amounts of oil in the United States.
In return, the oil sheiks would take a portion of their oil-sales income and buy U.S. debt, including Treasury securities and other paper—something Williams reported three decades ago.
The new information that he has gone public with is that the elite are about to renege on the deal and double cross those nations and OPEC—and it is ultimately about furtherance of the New World Order.
In Williams's view, the crisis in Egypt was exacerbated by the CIA with paid agitators. And although they did not initiate the unrest, the Muslim Brotherhood is being manipulated by the elite in the crisis areas in the aftermath.
The prediction is that, because of the ongoing crisis and the continued decline of the dollar, oil will go to $150 and then to $200 a barrel before the year is out. When it reaches these levels, Williams says, the plan is to cease purchasing oil from the Middle East and begin extracting it from Gull Island in Alaska's Prudhoe Bay, from the nearby Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) in Alaska, and from the Bakken formation where North Dakota meets Canada.
In addition, 2 trillion barrels of shale oil lie beneath the Rocky Mountains may be tapped. Such a welcome retaliation to the Arab oil czars will certainly be applauded by the American people, who will be told that it is being done to lower prices at U.S. pumps. However, when such a result never comes and gasoline prices soar to $6 a gallon anyway, the American people will realize, too late again, that the only change made has been in who harvests the vast profits.
AFP has reported extensively in recent years on both the Bakken formation and Gull Island, pointing out the practical need to tap those huge domestic oil sources, along with using bio-fuels, ethanol and other alternatives, so the U.S. can become more oil-independent but also rely on a variety of fuels to boost the overall economy through diversification.
If Williams is correct and the "end game" is to bring the United States more fully into the NWO, then much has already been accomplished toward that goal by shipping U.S. jobs and factories overseas, and by the decline of the dollar. China could conceivably replace the U.S. as the top world power, and the dollar would no longer be the world's reserve currency.
Never, ever interact with a government official without having a recorder running.
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9-11 Links, Big Money Swirl Around Newt
9-11 Links, Big Money Swirl Around Newt
By Michael Collins Piper
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich—who left office under a cloud in 1999—has pivotal political backing in elite global financial and corporate circles and can count on friendly support from the controlled media in pursuing his aspirations for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.
Despite his efforts to portray himself as a "conservative" alternative to politics-as-usual, Gingrich is an unabashed New World Order internationalist and a long-standing advocate of destructive "free trade" policies and American military adventurism abroad.
As such, it is no coincidence Gingrich is a longtime member of the Rockefeller family-financed Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the New York-based affiliate of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the policy-making apparatus of the global empire of the Rothschild banking dynasty that is intricately intertwined with those predatory plutocrats on American soil who dominate the unconstitutional Federal Reserve System, the privately owned money monopoly Ron Paul has worked to bring into line. These facts about Gingrich point to where his real loyalties lie.
DIRTY MONEY
On Feb. 26 The Washington Post reported Gingrich has assembled a multi-level, wide-ranging political conglomerate of his own, described as "a financial empire that could prove crucial" in advancing Gingrich’s presidential ambitions. He has already raised more money than possible GOP primary opponents including Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney.
In addition, Gingrich controls an operation known as American Solutions for Winning the Future—a virtual private money machine that Gingrich uses to promote himself. The Post says this Gingrich venture has raised "more money than any other organization of its kind nationwide," to the tune of more than $50 million, "much of it as large donations from casino, energy and banking interests."
By far the most generous backer of Gingrich is Las Vegas-based casino tycoon Sheldon Adelson—a hard-line supporter of Israel who once described himself as "the richest Jew in the world." Adelson has given Gingrich some $6 million over the last four years.
Gingrich also has an unusual connection to Larry Silverstein, a controversial figure whose name has been in the forefront of the circumstances surrounding the cover-up of the 9-11 terrorist tragedy.
While in Congress, Gingrich benefited from the lucrative Israeli-connected activities of his then-second wife, Marianne, who was on the payroll of the Israel Export Development Company (IEDCO), which promoted the importation into the United States of Israeli products—even as Gingrich was using his influence as a member of Congress to advance U.S.-Israeli trade.
The aforementioned IEDCO was an operation run by mob-connected Silverstein, the billionaire owner of the World Trade Center towers at the time of the 9-11 tragedy, best known for his now infamous urging—"pull it"—in reference to the Trade Center’s Building 7. That skyscraper was deliberately imploded, a point 9-11 researchers have documented relentlessly.
Mrs. Gingrich’s lucrative deal with IEDCO was cut in August 1994 after she and her husband traveled to Israel at the expense of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a lobby for Israel. Although Mrs. Gingrich took home a monthly salary of $2,500, plus "commissions," she refused to disclose the size of those "commissions."
And while Mrs. Gingrich responded to criticisms of her sweet deal that "If I were going to get a political payoff, it would not be for the amount of money I am making," the fact is that the sums she received are precisely of the level often seen linked to political payoffs.
IEDCO’s Silverstein once even admitted to The Wall Street Journal that Gingrich was one of a number of members of Congress who was lobbied to support Silverstein’s company’s proposals—when his wife was on Silverstein’s payroll.
INTERNATIONALIST AT HEART
Going back as far as 25 years, evidence was emerging that suggested that Gingrich was not the kind of Republican that could be considered "traditional." A front-page exclusive published in the Jan. 28, 1985 issue of The Spotlight revealed that, while he was then a little-known junior member of the House of Representatives, Gingrich was the brains behind a clique of internationalist Republicans who were working to scrap the GOP’s historic nationalist stance in foreign policy making. Unfortunately, this honest effort to expose Gingrich’s internationalist bent was greeted with a mixture of outrage and scorn by many conservatives, who were hoodwinked by the mainstream media into following the Georgia congressman’s peculiar brand of "leadership." Gingrich and his fellow GOP lawmakers dubbed themselves the Conservative Opportunity Society (COS).
The Spotlight revealed that Gingrich, along with several other House Republicans, including Reps. Vin Weber (Minn.), Connie Mack (Fla.), and Robert Walker (Pa.), had attended a secret meeting with Donald Graham, publisher of The Washington Post, and Meg Greenfield, the Post’s editorial page editor. At that meeting Gingrich and his colleagues effectively agreed to work to revamp the so-called "conservative wing" of the Republican Party and use their influence to push the GOP into the internationalist camp.
In return, the liberal Post’s power-wielders agreed to give Gingrich and his colleagues widespread favorable publicity in the pages of their influential daily. Until that time Gingrich and company had been relegated to "backbench" status by the media, sometimes painted as "extremists" and "troublemakers."
Gingrich and his colleagues told the Post that they would come out swinging in favor of economic sanctions against the anti-communist, pro-American regime in South Africa. This was a 180-degree reversal of the traditional "conservative" stand in support of South Africa and in opposition to sanctions. In no short time they did, in fact, call for sanctions, causing syndicated columnist Pat Buchanan to comment that Gingrich and company were "turncoat[s]" who were guilty of "stabbing South Africa in the back."
By adopting the new position, Gingrich and his COS clique had signed on with the liberal internationalists in Congress who had been waging war against South Africa for decades. Soon—as promised—The Washington Post published a laudatory profile of Gingrich. This set the stage for many future such puff-pieces promoting Gingrich and placing him in line for his ultimate election as House minority whip and then as House speaker. Then, to the outrage of nationalist-minded Republicans,
Gingrich’s COS colleague, Weber, authored a prominently placed op-ed column in the Post (never permitted as a forum for GOP conservatives) which called upon the GOP to become "America’s new internationalist party." Ultimately, The Spotlight’s world exclusive on the secret meeting between Gingrich and the Post was confirmed by the Post itself—but only after Gingrich had reached a position of influence. In short, The Spotlight’s "conspiracy theory"—as some called it—proved to be a fact.
None of this surprised long-time Gingrich watchers. In 1968 when then-California Gov. Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon were vying for "conservative" support in their respective bids for the GOP presidential nomination, Gingrich opted instead to sign on as the southeast regional coordinator for their opponent, New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller. Later, Gingrich taught at the Rockefeller-funded Emory University in Atlanta.
What he represents is reflected in the critical role played by Gingrich in railroading the sovereignty-robbing, job-exporting North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) through Congress. He rallied enough GOP votes to enable enactment, a major victory for fellow CFR-member, then-President Bill Clinton. Gingrich, in fact, was almost single-handedly responsible for ensuring NAFTA’s passage.
On Sept. 3, 1995 The Washington Post assured its readers that Gingrich was "okay" despite criticism of Gingrich by some liberal critics. The Post rushed to this defense and pointed out in a headline that "For the ultra-right, Gingrich is just a tool of the world government plot." The Post said that "anyone who glances at The Spotlight, the weekly newspaper of the far-right Liberty Lobby . . . knows that . . . Gingrich is hardly the leader of their movement; in their eyes, he is actively working to subvert it."
However, the Post was careful not to mention that it was The Spotlight that first blew the whistle on the secret deal between Gingrich and the Post. According to the sarcastic and less than factual commentary by the Post, "Those with a paranoid bent are convinced that the Georgian is in cahoots with President Clinton, the Rockefellers, the Freemasons, the Council on Foreign Relations and the entire Eastern Establishment to abrogate the Constitution and forge a New World Order under the thumb of Jewish central bankers and the United Nations."
The Post smeared patriots, saying: "It is important for national opinion-makers to understand the chasm between most House Republicans and the loony right. Gingrich and his GOP revolution may be controversial and provocative, but they are not the source of violent extremism."
GINGRICH THE CENTRIST
Another point to keep in mind: As AFP has reported exclusively, there is evidence Gingrich may be cooperating with a high-level scheme to launch an ostensibly "independent" political movement in the 2012 election, a so-called "centrist" third party that will be used to corral grassroots opposition to the New World Order establishment.
So even if Gingrich does not ultimately wind up as the GOP presidential nominee, he may have other options in the 2012 election arena.
Never, ever interact with a government official without having a recorder running.
By Michael Collins Piper
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich—who left office under a cloud in 1999—has pivotal political backing in elite global financial and corporate circles and can count on friendly support from the controlled media in pursuing his aspirations for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.
Despite his efforts to portray himself as a "conservative" alternative to politics-as-usual, Gingrich is an unabashed New World Order internationalist and a long-standing advocate of destructive "free trade" policies and American military adventurism abroad.
As such, it is no coincidence Gingrich is a longtime member of the Rockefeller family-financed Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the New York-based affiliate of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the policy-making apparatus of the global empire of the Rothschild banking dynasty that is intricately intertwined with those predatory plutocrats on American soil who dominate the unconstitutional Federal Reserve System, the privately owned money monopoly Ron Paul has worked to bring into line. These facts about Gingrich point to where his real loyalties lie.
DIRTY MONEY
On Feb. 26 The Washington Post reported Gingrich has assembled a multi-level, wide-ranging political conglomerate of his own, described as "a financial empire that could prove crucial" in advancing Gingrich’s presidential ambitions. He has already raised more money than possible GOP primary opponents including Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney.
In addition, Gingrich controls an operation known as American Solutions for Winning the Future—a virtual private money machine that Gingrich uses to promote himself. The Post says this Gingrich venture has raised "more money than any other organization of its kind nationwide," to the tune of more than $50 million, "much of it as large donations from casino, energy and banking interests."
By far the most generous backer of Gingrich is Las Vegas-based casino tycoon Sheldon Adelson—a hard-line supporter of Israel who once described himself as "the richest Jew in the world." Adelson has given Gingrich some $6 million over the last four years.
Gingrich also has an unusual connection to Larry Silverstein, a controversial figure whose name has been in the forefront of the circumstances surrounding the cover-up of the 9-11 terrorist tragedy.
While in Congress, Gingrich benefited from the lucrative Israeli-connected activities of his then-second wife, Marianne, who was on the payroll of the Israel Export Development Company (IEDCO), which promoted the importation into the United States of Israeli products—even as Gingrich was using his influence as a member of Congress to advance U.S.-Israeli trade.
The aforementioned IEDCO was an operation run by mob-connected Silverstein, the billionaire owner of the World Trade Center towers at the time of the 9-11 tragedy, best known for his now infamous urging—"pull it"—in reference to the Trade Center’s Building 7. That skyscraper was deliberately imploded, a point 9-11 researchers have documented relentlessly.
Mrs. Gingrich’s lucrative deal with IEDCO was cut in August 1994 after she and her husband traveled to Israel at the expense of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a lobby for Israel. Although Mrs. Gingrich took home a monthly salary of $2,500, plus "commissions," she refused to disclose the size of those "commissions."
And while Mrs. Gingrich responded to criticisms of her sweet deal that "If I were going to get a political payoff, it would not be for the amount of money I am making," the fact is that the sums she received are precisely of the level often seen linked to political payoffs.
IEDCO’s Silverstein once even admitted to The Wall Street Journal that Gingrich was one of a number of members of Congress who was lobbied to support Silverstein’s company’s proposals—when his wife was on Silverstein’s payroll.
INTERNATIONALIST AT HEART
Going back as far as 25 years, evidence was emerging that suggested that Gingrich was not the kind of Republican that could be considered "traditional." A front-page exclusive published in the Jan. 28, 1985 issue of The Spotlight revealed that, while he was then a little-known junior member of the House of Representatives, Gingrich was the brains behind a clique of internationalist Republicans who were working to scrap the GOP’s historic nationalist stance in foreign policy making. Unfortunately, this honest effort to expose Gingrich’s internationalist bent was greeted with a mixture of outrage and scorn by many conservatives, who were hoodwinked by the mainstream media into following the Georgia congressman’s peculiar brand of "leadership." Gingrich and his fellow GOP lawmakers dubbed themselves the Conservative Opportunity Society (COS).
The Spotlight revealed that Gingrich, along with several other House Republicans, including Reps. Vin Weber (Minn.), Connie Mack (Fla.), and Robert Walker (Pa.), had attended a secret meeting with Donald Graham, publisher of The Washington Post, and Meg Greenfield, the Post’s editorial page editor. At that meeting Gingrich and his colleagues effectively agreed to work to revamp the so-called "conservative wing" of the Republican Party and use their influence to push the GOP into the internationalist camp.
In return, the liberal Post’s power-wielders agreed to give Gingrich and his colleagues widespread favorable publicity in the pages of their influential daily. Until that time Gingrich and company had been relegated to "backbench" status by the media, sometimes painted as "extremists" and "troublemakers."
Gingrich and his colleagues told the Post that they would come out swinging in favor of economic sanctions against the anti-communist, pro-American regime in South Africa. This was a 180-degree reversal of the traditional "conservative" stand in support of South Africa and in opposition to sanctions. In no short time they did, in fact, call for sanctions, causing syndicated columnist Pat Buchanan to comment that Gingrich and company were "turncoat[s]" who were guilty of "stabbing South Africa in the back."
By adopting the new position, Gingrich and his COS clique had signed on with the liberal internationalists in Congress who had been waging war against South Africa for decades. Soon—as promised—The Washington Post published a laudatory profile of Gingrich. This set the stage for many future such puff-pieces promoting Gingrich and placing him in line for his ultimate election as House minority whip and then as House speaker. Then, to the outrage of nationalist-minded Republicans,
Gingrich’s COS colleague, Weber, authored a prominently placed op-ed column in the Post (never permitted as a forum for GOP conservatives) which called upon the GOP to become "America’s new internationalist party." Ultimately, The Spotlight’s world exclusive on the secret meeting between Gingrich and the Post was confirmed by the Post itself—but only after Gingrich had reached a position of influence. In short, The Spotlight’s "conspiracy theory"—as some called it—proved to be a fact.
None of this surprised long-time Gingrich watchers. In 1968 when then-California Gov. Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon were vying for "conservative" support in their respective bids for the GOP presidential nomination, Gingrich opted instead to sign on as the southeast regional coordinator for their opponent, New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller. Later, Gingrich taught at the Rockefeller-funded Emory University in Atlanta.
What he represents is reflected in the critical role played by Gingrich in railroading the sovereignty-robbing, job-exporting North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) through Congress. He rallied enough GOP votes to enable enactment, a major victory for fellow CFR-member, then-President Bill Clinton. Gingrich, in fact, was almost single-handedly responsible for ensuring NAFTA’s passage.
On Sept. 3, 1995 The Washington Post assured its readers that Gingrich was "okay" despite criticism of Gingrich by some liberal critics. The Post rushed to this defense and pointed out in a headline that "For the ultra-right, Gingrich is just a tool of the world government plot." The Post said that "anyone who glances at The Spotlight, the weekly newspaper of the far-right Liberty Lobby . . . knows that . . . Gingrich is hardly the leader of their movement; in their eyes, he is actively working to subvert it."
However, the Post was careful not to mention that it was The Spotlight that first blew the whistle on the secret deal between Gingrich and the Post. According to the sarcastic and less than factual commentary by the Post, "Those with a paranoid bent are convinced that the Georgian is in cahoots with President Clinton, the Rockefellers, the Freemasons, the Council on Foreign Relations and the entire Eastern Establishment to abrogate the Constitution and forge a New World Order under the thumb of Jewish central bankers and the United Nations."
The Post smeared patriots, saying: "It is important for national opinion-makers to understand the chasm between most House Republicans and the loony right. Gingrich and his GOP revolution may be controversial and provocative, but they are not the source of violent extremism."
GINGRICH THE CENTRIST
Another point to keep in mind: As AFP has reported exclusively, there is evidence Gingrich may be cooperating with a high-level scheme to launch an ostensibly "independent" political movement in the 2012 election, a so-called "centrist" third party that will be used to corral grassroots opposition to the New World Order establishment.
So even if Gingrich does not ultimately wind up as the GOP presidential nominee, he may have other options in the 2012 election arena.
Never, ever interact with a government official without having a recorder running.
Re: Is the Tea Party's Revolution Serious?
MJ, is the Tea Party Revolution Serious? Well let me make this
statement. Is what we we believe and the principles that this nation
was founded on real, if we answer yes than the movement is serious and
no one is going to stop it. God Bless The Tea Par tiers each and
everyone.
statement. Is what we we believe and the principles that this nation
was founded on real, if we answer yes than the movement is serious and
no one is going to stop it. God Bless The Tea Par tiers each and
everyone.
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:53 AM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:
> "Lepore also finds anecdotal evidence of historical ignorance among the
> contemporary tea partiers. She talks with a Midwesterner named Patrick
> Humphries, for example, who tells her he "was born in Indiana and grew up in
> Iowa." Humphries believes, like most of his fellow tea partiers, that the
> policies of the Obama administration represent a "radical change" -- a
> "government takeover of the economy." But of course Obama's actual policies
> are merely the policies all presidential administrations, both Republican
> and Democratic, have pursued for nearly 80 years. They are virtually
> indistinguishable from the policies of his predecessor, George W. Bush. Much
> of the tea party talk about the supposed evil of the Obama administration is
> really just empty rhetorical excess."
>
> Is the Tea Party's Revolution Serious?
> Friday, March 18, 2011
> by Jeff Riggenbach
>
> [Transcribed from the Libertarian Tradition podcast episode "The Tea Party's
> Revolution"]
>
> Jill Lepore is a professor of history at Harvard and a journalist whose work
> appears in the major mainstream media. The New York Times and the Los
> Angeles Times are on the list of publications to which she contributes, as
> is The New Yorker, where she's listed on the masthead as a "staff writer."
> Her latest book, which was published back in September by Princeton
> University Press, is called The Whites of Their Eyes: The Tea Party's
> Revolution and the Battle over American History. Unsurprisingly, it reads
> rather like a long magazine article.
>
> It meanders here and there in a leisurely fashion; it includes tidbits from
> Lepore's reading in American history and other tidbits from interviews she
> conducted with members of the contemporary tea-party movement, but it seems
> never to really reach any particular point. In the end, it doesn't really
> end; it just stops. She raises some big questions "What was the Revolution
> about? What is history for? Who are we?" but never really answers them.
>
> If there is any overarching argument to The Whites of Their Eyes it would
> seem to be this: the members of the contemporary tea-party movement believe,
> according to Lepore, in a version of American history that she dismisses as
> "a fantasy," an 18th century with
>
> no slavery, poverty, ignorance, insanity, sickness, or misery … only the
> Founding Fathers with their white wigs, wearing their three-cornered hats,
> in their Christian nation, revolting against taxes, and defending their
> right to bear arms.
>
> This outright "fiction," Lepore argues, may, for example, be accused of
> having "compressed a quarter century of political contest into 'the
> founding,' as if ideas worked out, over decades of debate and fierce
> disagreement, were held by everyone, from the start." She quotes an exchange
> between Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin. "Who's your favorite Founder?" Beck asks
> Palin. "Um, you know, well," she replies. "All of them."
>
> It is not, of course, clear whether Mrs. Palin actually knows the names of
> any of these Founders Beck was asking her about, as it is not clear whether
> she knows anything else at all about them either. It is relatively certain,
> however, that Glenn Beck does know both who the Founders were and at least
> something about what they said and did. He has claimed, for example, that
> Thomas Paine, "was the Glenn Beck of the American Revolution," a not
> entirely implausible interpretation of the facts.
>
> The problem, however, at least as Lepore sees it, is that Beck is a devotee
> of the tea-party movement's version of American history, which she calls not
> "just kooky history [but] antihistory." Then she decides that perhaps a
> better term for it is "historical fundamentalism." And for the rest of the
> book, that's the term she goes with. "Historical fundamentalism … is to
> history," she writes, "what astrology is to astronomy, what alchemy is to
> chemistry, what creationism is to evolution."
>
> More specifically,
>
> historical fundamentalism is marked by the belief that a particular and
> quite narrowly defined past "the founding" is ageless and sacred and to
> be worshipped; that certain historical texts "the founding documents"
> are to be read in the same spirit with which religious fundamentalists read,
> for instance, the Ten Commandments; that the Founding Fathers were divinely
> inspired; that the academic study of history (whose standards of evidence
> and methods of analysis are based on skepticism) is a conspiracy and,
> furthermore, blasphemy; and that political arguments grounded in appeals to
> the founding documents, as sacred texts, and to the Founding Fathers, as
> prophets, are therefore incontrovertible.
>
> As Lepore points out, the Founding Fathers "weren't even called the Founding
> Fathers until Warren G. Harding coined that phrase in his keynote address at
> the Republican National Convention in 1916." He used the phrase again a few
> years later, "during his inauguration in 1921," in an inaugural address
> written in what H.L. Mencken described as
>
> the worst English that I have ever encountered. It reminds me of a string of
> wet sponges; it reminds me of tattered washing on the line; it reminds me of
> stale bean soup, of college yells, of dogs barking idiotically through
> endless nights. It is so bad that a sort of grandeur creeps into it.
>
> It was in that very same speech that Harding attested his "belief in the
> divine inspiration of the founding fathers."
>
> Lepore provides inconclusive anecdotal evidence, which I nevertheless find
> persuasive, that the tea-party movement is mainly just a bunch of
> disaffected Republicans who really care nothing for small government or
> individual liberty but merely want to see the GOP back in the White House
> and back in control of Congress. For example, she cites a 2010 New York
> Times/CBS News poll as revealing that "63 percent of self-described tea
> party supporters gain most of their television news from Fox, compared with
> 23 percent of all adult Americans," and Fox News is, of course, little more
> than the outsourced publicity arm of the Republican Party.
>
> She also presents such evidence from her own interviews with members of the
> tea-party movement. She found that
>
> Tea partiers liked to describe their movement as a catchall Austin Hess
> identified himself as a libertarian, Christen Varley described herself as a
> social and fiscal conservative but it didn't catch everything. Opposition
> to military power didn't have a place in the twenty-first century tea party.
> It did, however, have a place in the Revolution.
>
> Moreover, the commitment to individual liberty exhibited by many of those
> Lepore talked with was rather scant, to say the least. She interviews one
> tea partier, Christen Varley, who is working "to try to get a ban on
> same-sex marriage on the ballot." Lepore "asked her whether that didn't
> amount to more government interference, but the problem, she said, was that
> the government had interfered so much already that it had nearly destroyed
> the family, and the only thing for it was to use the government to repair
> the damage." In other words, "I oppose large, intrusive government, except
> when I don't." Where could you find a better definition of conservatism?
>
> At another point in her period of interaction with the tea partiers, mostly
> in Boston, Lepore asked a self-proclaimed libertarian, Austin Hess, "if he
> was troubled by Christen Varley's work with the Coalition for Marriage and
> the Family. 'We do not discuss social issues and foreign policy issues,' he
> said." Later,
>
> I asked Austin Hess whether he was worried Sarah Palin was hijacking the tea
> party. He shrugged. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," he said. "I don't
> agree with her about a whole lot of things, but we're not conducting purity
> tests. We're building coalitions."
>
> Lepore also finds anecdotal evidence of historical ignorance among the
> contemporary tea partiers. She talks with a Midwesterner named Patrick
> Humphries, for example, who tells her he "was born in Indiana and grew up in
> Iowa." Humphries believes, like most of his fellow tea partiers, that the
> policies of the Obama administration represent a "radical change" -- a
> "government takeover of the economy." But of course Obama's actual policies
> are merely the policies all presidential administrations, both Republican
> and Democratic, have pursued for nearly 80 years. They are virtually
> indistinguishable from the policies of his predecessor, George W. Bush. Much
> of the tea party talk about the supposed evil of the Obama administration is
> really just empty rhetorical excess.
>
> And Lepore does have a tendency to take the contemporary tea partiers'
> somewhat overheated rhetoric a bit too literally. She seems to think, for
> example, that they really want to return to the 18th century -- or, to be
> more exact, to the way government was conducted back then. And that is
> something Lepore herself does not want.
>
> She tells the sad story of Peter Franklin Mecom, Benjamin Franklin's nephew,
> the son of his sister Jane. When Jane's husband, Edward Mecom, died, Lepore
> writes, he
>
> left his wife with nothing but debts, not least because, long before he
> died, he had lost his mind. Whatever ailed him, it was heritable. When
> Jane's son Peter fell prey to the Mecom madness, Benjamin Franklin paid a
> farmer's wife to take care of him.
>
> The care she provided did not, however, meet Jill Lepore's standards.
> "Whenever I hear people … talk about getting back to what the founders had,"
> she writes, "a government that won't give money to people who don't work, I
> think about Peter Franklin Mecom: he was tied up in a barn, like an animal,
> for the rest of his life." Nor does Mecom's case represent the full extent
> of Lepore's dissatisfaction with the politics of the late 18th century. "In
> eighteenth-century America," she writes, "I wouldn't have been able to vote.
> I wouldn't have been able to own property, either." And her rejection of
> that prospect is flat and final. She writes, "I don't want to go back to
> that."
>
> She approvingly quotes Thurgood Marshall's 1987 remark in which he mocked
> what he called the "complacent belief that the vision of those who debated
> and compromised in Philadelphia yielded the 'more perfect union' it is said
> we now enjoy." Marshall expressed a certain skepticism about "the wisdom,
> foresight, and sense of justice exhibited by the Framers" and noted that
> "the government they devised was defective from the start, requiring several
> amendments, a civil war, and major social transformations to attain the
> system of constitutional government and its respect for the freedoms and
> individual rights … we hold as fundamental today."
>
> There is merit in this statement -- though a historically literate
> libertarian would remonstrate a bit about Marshall's wording. It's doubtful,
> for example, that a civil war was actually "required" to get rid of slavery,
> and not all of those constitutional amendments Marshall seemed to hold in
> such high regard were "required" either, not if the end you had in view was
> the protection of individual rights.
>
> The one in 1920 that permitted women to vote was doubtless "required" for
> that objective to be achieved. But what about the provisions of the
> Reconstruction Amendments that effectively turned over to a monstrously
> enlarged federal government all the matters that had previously been
> concerns of the various states? Did this have the effect of better
> protecting the individual rights of Americans? The matter is, at the very
> least, debatable.
>
> The important point, however, is that no tea partiers I know of are asking
> that the government policies of the late 18th century be adopted anew --
> that slavery be reinstituted, that women be denied the right to vote and the
> right to own property. What the tea partiers are asking is rather that our
> current government be run according to the principles that underlay the
> American Revolution. But there's the rub. For what are those principles?
>
> The Founding Fathers didn't agree with each other about everything. In fact,
> the more you read their letters and other writings, the more it seems that
> they agreed with each other about virtually nothing except the desirability
> of breaking with England and establishing a new government for what had been
> 13 separate English colonies. This is presumably why Glenn Beck asked Sarah
> Palin to name her favorite Founder, and it was her ignorant belief -- or so,
> at least, it seems to me -- that the founders all agreed that made her
> unable to answer his question.
>
> If you think of the American Revolution as most modern libertarians do, as
> having been a major event in the libertarian tradition, as having been
> underlain by essentially libertarian ideas, if what at least some tea
> partiers want is that our current government be run according to libertarian
> principles -- well, then, what they want is a federal government that
> scarcely exists, a federal government closer to the one that operated under
> the Articles of Confederation than to any US federal government that has
> existed since adoption of the Constitution. If, like most tea partiers,
> however, you're a conservative, then the principles you probably believe
> underlay the American Revolution were "no taxation without representation,"
> the right to bear arms, and, of course, the doctrine that the United States
> was to be a "Christian nation."
>
> It is a skewed understanding of the Revolution that permits such a view as
> this, of course, which is Lepore's point. What today's tea partiers think
> they know about the American Revolution is partial and selective when it
> isn't absolute bunkum.
>
> Jill Lepore believes, and I agree with her, that it would be better if the
> tea partiers got their facts right, so that their understanding of the
> meaning of the American Revolution was more nuanced and closer to the actual
> truth.
>
> She is inclined to blame her own profession for the problem. Academic
> historians stopped writing for the general reader decades ago, she argues,
> and began turning out highly specialized scholarship that frankly didn't
> expect any readers other than fellow professors.
>
> She has a point, but I myself am a firm believer in the view that you can
> lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. The horse has to want a
> drink. The American electorate has to want the truth about American history.
> Too many Americans really don't want truth -- any truth. What they want is
> mythology that will confirm their prejudices.
>
> Those of us who communicate with the public about history do have to get out
> the word about what American history really is. But just doing that won't
> guarantee a change in public attitudes toward the American Revolution. We
> still need a thirsty horse.
>
>
> Jeff Riggenbach is a journalist, author, editor, broadcaster, and educator.
> A member of the Organization of American Historians and a Senior Fellow at
> the Randolph Bourne Institute, he has written for such newspapers as The New
> York Times, USA Today, the Los Angeles Times, and the San Francisco
> Chronicle; such magazines as Reason, Inquiry, and Liberty; and such websites
> as LewRockwell.com, AntiWar.com, and RationalReview.com. Drawing on vocal
> skills he honed in classical and all-news radio in Los Angeles, San
> Francisco, and Houston, Riggenbach has also narrated the audiobook versions
> of numerous libertarian works, many of them available in Mises Media.
>
> http://mises.org/daily/5107/Is-the-Tea-Partys-Revolution-Serious
>
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Fwd: NAUGHTY LITTLE MICH DEMS
Oh, those naughty little Michigan Democrats!
**Posted by Phineas
Caught creating fake Tea Party candidates to dilute the conservative vote in the last election:
Two former leaders of the Oakland County Democratic Party are facing a total of nine felonies for allegedly forging election paperwork to get fake Tea Party candidates on November's ballot."It is not a partisan statement, and we need to make that very clear," said Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper.Former Oakland County Democratic Chair Mike McGuinness and former Democratic Operations Director Jason Bauer face up to 14 years in prison if convicted."Some of the people didn't even know they were on the ballot till they began receiving delinquency notices of filings that were required as a candidate," said Oakland County Sheriff Michael Bouchard.The sheriff says 23 statewide races had questionable Tea Party candidates on the ballot and the investigation may go beyond Oakland County.
Bad liberals, bad! No biscuits for you!
Try 14 years in prison, instead.
Ed Morrissey notes that the grand jury is still investigating this, even those these two cheating weasels Democrats have been indicted. That hints at further indictments, maybe at a statewide level.
Oh, and you know what the cherry on top of this Scandal Sundae is? It was all for nought! Try as they might to rig the election*, Democrats lost control of the legislature and the governor's office, turning the state bright Red.
Great job, guys. That should make your prison experience that much more meaningful.
OBSERVATION: In his book Stealing Elections, John Fund notes that Republican electoral corruption tends toward voter intimidation, while Democrats are more likely to engage in voter fraud (dead voters, double voting, &c.). Looks like they're staying true to form.
(By the way, that is an essential book for anyone concerned about the health of our electoral system.)
*And I don't for a minute think this was just a local matter.
Fwd: Bamie's facade continues to decay, polls drop
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Items to donate to the Japanese EQ/Tsunami/Nuke Relief effort
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Scott Hamilton
From: Scott Hamilton
Everyone is responsible for shipping their donations, along with a packing slip, your name, address, telephone number (per the Dept of Homeland Security), and an itemized description of the goods you are sending.
Please ship your care packages to:
Wings and Wheels
8877 Inkster Rd.
Taylor, MI. 48180
Attention DailyPaul Japanese Relief
As you have read below, the gentleman who put this together has secured the free air cargo arrangements to Japan, all we have to do is pay for shipping to the address I put together above. Please review the items Dave is requesting and donate accordingly. Please be as promt as you can getting these items sent as the citizens of japan who have been displaced are in dire need.
Pray for the citizens of Japan in their moment of need.
Scott Hamilton
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Hamilton
Sent: 03/16/11 11:32 PM
Subject: All Hands on Deck, need items to donate to the Japanese EQ/Tsunami/Nuke Relief effort
Hello everyone,
A memeber of the DailyPaul (Ron Paul supporters/Liberty and Freedom website) who works in the Air Cargo Industry has secured free Air Transport to Japan for donated items to help the proud citizens of Japan who have lost everything in the recent Earthquake, Tsunami/Nuke Fallout disaster. I will be coordinating the Appleton area. if you can help, please email dexterszyd@gmail.com (David) and let him know I sent you. if you live in the Appleton/Green Bay area, please contact me with any information and help me schedule picking up your donated items.
I am asking for coordinators for the Milwaukee area, Madison area, Wausau-Stevens Point area, NW Wisconsin and those of you in Illinois i am sking you to setup your own local relief effort coordinated with Mike who has secured the free air transport.. let's make this a grass roots effort and show the Government how it is done instead of those bungling idiots who would screw up a 1 car funeral. time is of the esscence, let make this HAPPEN and help our fellow man kind in great need.
A Daily Paul Call to Arms for a Country in Desperate Need! URGENT!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/i1cJyEfzgoM
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
A Call to Arms for a country in desperate need!
My fellow countrymen and Daily Paul members. With Mr. Nystrom's consent I am posting this solicitation for your donations. Our neighbors across the Pacific need our help!
As all you probably know by now a tragedy has hit the country of Japan beyond comprehension. Entire communities have been lost and devastated. To make matters worse, the harsh reality of winter's wrath is bearing down upon them. Men, women and children have no clothes or blankets. No diapers, sanitary supplies or toiletries. No winter coats, hats or gloves. These people will perish without help.
I can't sit back and watch and hope things work out. I know the government is considering and deliberating on their response, but I can't wait for them. I know a lot of you feel the same way. It is business leaders and community members that join together that really make a difference.
I work directly in international forwarding and logistics. With the help and generosity of warehouse providers, trucking companies, forwarding agents, friends in Japan and a heavy lift airline cargo carrier. I believe we can get the needed supplies to Japan. What I am telling you is we have the logistics in place to get the needed aid to Japan within days. I have commitments from small businesses and individuals that will help us pull this off.
Can you help in this desperate moment?
What we need from you is your donations. We are taking up a collection of the following items:
1. Clothing for men women children and babies. All sizes new or gently used.
2. Winter garments such as coats, gloves, hats, boots insulated socks etc...
3. Pillows and blankets.
4. Diapers for infants, toddlers, and seniors.
5. Women's sanitary products.
6. Towels and bedding.
7. Plastic or Rubbermaid bins to store items.
8. Backpacks and totes.
As of now I have set up a warehouse in Detroit area where we will build up pallets. We will collect the relief supplies and truck them to Chicago for departure to Narita Japan when we are ready. I will look at setting up an additional location out east like at JFK (New York) airport and west like LAX (Los Angeles) airport but that is preliminary and I need to reach out for help to pull it off.
In the meantime, we will be taking initial donations in Detroit. As you consider your donation we will need to make sure you prepare,
1. A short packing list of what you are sending
2. Your name address and a number we can get ahold of you at, as required by the airlines regulations.
****Important*****
Every packaged will be opened and screened so consider this when mailing or sending items.
Thank you for your heart and open arms.
Please email me @ dexterszyd@gmail.com for more info and warehouse location and staging area.
PS. Don't send me money. I am just a guy that's fortunate to have the means to help. I need supplies and aid for the people in need!
Please post this on your Facebook page and let's help out the Japanese who are really hurting and show them the American Spirit! :)
Thanks
DEXTERSZYD (DailyPaul member)
http://www.dailypaul.com/159700/a-call-to-arms-for-a-country-in-desperate-need#comment-1686746
Scott Hamilton (Coordinating the Appleton/Green Bay area)
920-750-4005
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Please ship your care packages to:
Wings and Wheels
8877 Inkster Rd.
Taylor, MI. 48180
Attention DailyPaul Japanese Relief
As you have read below, the gentleman who put this together has secured the free air cargo arrangements to Japan, all we have to do is pay for shipping to the address I put together above. Please review the items Dave is requesting and donate accordingly. Please be as promt as you can getting these items sent as the citizens of japan who have been displaced are in dire need.
Pray for the citizens of Japan in their moment of need.
Scott Hamilton
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Hamilton
Sent: 03/16/11 11:32 PM
Subject: All Hands on Deck, need items to donate to the Japanese EQ/Tsunami/Nuke Relief effort
Hello everyone,
A memeber of the DailyPaul (Ron Paul supporters/Liberty and Freedom website) who works in the Air Cargo Industry has secured free Air Transport to Japan for donated items to help the proud citizens of Japan who have lost everything in the recent Earthquake, Tsunami/Nuke Fallout disaster. I will be coordinating the Appleton area. if you can help, please email dexterszyd@gmail.com (David) and let him know I sent you. if you live in the Appleton/Green Bay area, please contact me with any information and help me schedule picking up your donated items.
I am asking for coordinators for the Milwaukee area, Madison area, Wausau-Stevens Point area, NW Wisconsin and those of you in Illinois i am sking you to setup your own local relief effort coordinated with Mike who has secured the free air transport.. let's make this a grass roots effort and show the Government how it is done instead of those bungling idiots who would screw up a 1 car funeral. time is of the esscence, let make this HAPPEN and help our fellow man kind in great need.
A Daily Paul Call to Arms for a Country in Desperate Need! URGENT!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/i1cJyEfzgoM
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
A Call to Arms for a country in desperate need!
My fellow countrymen and Daily Paul members. With Mr. Nystrom's consent I am posting this solicitation for your donations. Our neighbors across the Pacific need our help!
As all you probably know by now a tragedy has hit the country of Japan beyond comprehension. Entire communities have been lost and devastated. To make matters worse, the harsh reality of winter's wrath is bearing down upon them. Men, women and children have no clothes or blankets. No diapers, sanitary supplies or toiletries. No winter coats, hats or gloves. These people will perish without help.
I can't sit back and watch and hope things work out. I know the government is considering and deliberating on their response, but I can't wait for them. I know a lot of you feel the same way. It is business leaders and community members that join together that really make a difference.
I work directly in international forwarding and logistics. With the help and generosity of warehouse providers, trucking companies, forwarding agents, friends in Japan and a heavy lift airline cargo carrier. I believe we can get the needed supplies to Japan. What I am telling you is we have the logistics in place to get the needed aid to Japan within days. I have commitments from small businesses and individuals that will help us pull this off.
Can you help in this desperate moment?
What we need from you is your donations. We are taking up a collection of the following items:
1. Clothing for men women children and babies. All sizes new or gently used.
2. Winter garments such as coats, gloves, hats, boots insulated socks etc...
3. Pillows and blankets.
4. Diapers for infants, toddlers, and seniors.
5. Women's sanitary products.
6. Towels and bedding.
7. Plastic or Rubbermaid bins to store items.
8. Backpacks and totes.
As of now I have set up a warehouse in Detroit area where we will build up pallets. We will collect the relief supplies and truck them to Chicago for departure to Narita Japan when we are ready. I will look at setting up an additional location out east like at JFK (New York) airport and west like LAX (Los Angeles) airport but that is preliminary and I need to reach out for help to pull it off.
In the meantime, we will be taking initial donations in Detroit. As you consider your donation we will need to make sure you prepare,
1. A short packing list of what you are sending
2. Your name address and a number we can get ahold of you at, as required by the airlines regulations.
****Important*****
Every packaged will be opened and screened so consider this when mailing or sending items.
Thank you for your heart and open arms.
Please email me @ dexterszyd@gmail.com for more info and warehouse location and staging area.
PS. Don't send me money. I am just a guy that's fortunate to have the means to help. I need supplies and aid for the people in need!
Please post this on your Facebook page and let's help out the Japanese who are really hurting and show them the American Spirit! :)
Thanks
DEXTERSZYD (DailyPaul member)
http://www.dailypaul.com/159700/a-call-to-arms-for-a-country-in-desperate-need#comment-1686746
Scott Hamilton (Coordinating the Appleton/Green Bay area)
920-750-4005
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