Tuesday, November 16, 2010

Re: Is everyone on this list Moderated?

Merc is a funny name for a woman

Can you show us a picture of your bad ass?

Have you tried lunges and squats?

Or pilates?

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Merc <kevysmom09@gmail.com> wrote:
How many times have I been a new member?


What would happen if Merc was let loose in here? Oh, crap, the horror
she could do!! You dont get kissed very often, I can tell!

Another SOUTHERNER YOU are,  I can tell by your fraud intelligence, So
rampant on these political forums.


On Nov 15, 4:02 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Merc,
>
> You, as any new member, are indeed Moderated. Until it is shown that
> you can be basically civil you will remain so.
>
> Is "Bad Ass" as you use it to be considered literally or is a misspelt
> Colloquialism for 'bad assed'??
>
> On Nov 15, 2:11 pm, Merc <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Or is it just the bad ass chicks that get moderated?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: Fwd: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'

yea but what woman

have you seen Tracy Ullman's spoof of TSA workers?


On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:23 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <gmail.com> wrote:
Bruce,

If I must be frisked I want a woman to do it.... I hafta get something
out of it!!!!!
>
> I think it's Obama's green socialist plot to destroy the airline industry
> and eliminate flying as a common mode of travel for middle class people.
>  Cars will be next
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Beowulf < wrote:
>
> > Don't Ask, Don't Tell!
>
> > B
>
> > *From:* Individual-Sovereig...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > Individual-Sovereig...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Majors
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:42 PM
> > *To:* DCRadFeysCommun...@yahoogroups.com; individual-sovereignty; 3.
> > mainstreamlibertarians
> > *Cc:* politicalforum; Politics_CurrentEvents_Gr...@yahoogroups.com;
> > polit...@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* [I-S] Fwd: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving
> > 'Same-gender Pat-downs'
>
> > So forcing people into another coercive association once again inflames
> > tensions and bigotry
>
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: *Christian Newswire* <newsd...@christiannewswire.com>
> > Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:10 PM
> > Subject: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender
> > Pat-downs'
> > To: majors.br...@gmail.com
>
> > Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'
>
> > *CHICAGO,* *Nov. 16* /Christian Newswire/ -- Americans For Truth About
> > Homosexuality (AFTAH) today questioned the propriety of "same-gender' TSA
> > (Transportation Security Administration) "pat-downs" -- if the TSA agents
> > doing the 'patting down" are homosexual, lesbian or bisexual.
>
> > Homeland Security Sec. Janet Napolitano went out of her way yesterday to
> > stress that the TSA pat-downs are "same-gender" -- mostly to reassure women
> > that men will not be groping them at airports in the name of safety.
>
> > "But what about homosexual TSA agents?" AFTAH President Peter LaBarbera
> > responded. "Isn't it just as inappropriate for a 'gay' male TSA agent to pat
> > down male travelers as it is for a normal, heterosexual male TSA agent to
> > pat down female travelers?
>
> > "The reality is, most traveling men would not want Barney Frank to pat them
> > down at the airport security checkpoint," LaBarbera said. "Neither would it
> > be fair to assign Ellen DeGeneres to pat down female travelers. (In the same
> > vein, the Army should no more force normal male soldiers to shower and bunk
> > with homosexual male soldiers than it would force females soldiers to bunk
> > and shower with their male counterparts.)"
>
> > The TSA, as a federal agency, is barred from discriminating on the basis of
> > "sexual orientation," thanks to a pro-homosexual Executive Order<http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=tuqepibab&et=1103929834730&s=20791&e=00...>signed by President Clinton in 1998.
>
> > Said LaBarbera: "Obviously Napolitano wants to assure the public that
> > sexual tension will be taken out of the equation. Hence, we must take
> > seriously the self-identified desires of homosexuals. 'Gay' men define
> > themselves as being sexually attracted to other men. Lesbians are sexually
> > attracted to women. And bisexuals are attracted to both." Some observations:
>
> >    - Perhaps some common-sense, healthy "discrimination" is in order: the
> >    TSA should put conditions on employment for self-acknowledged homosexuals --
> >    that they not be assigned to pat down travelers so as to avoid being put in
> >    sexually compromising situations;
> >    - It would not be workable to assign, say, gay male TSA agents to pat
> >    down female travelers -- as the latter -- thinking the agents to be normal
> >    men -- would protest that they are being patted down by males. Chaos would
> >    ensue;
> >    - Does the TSA know which of its employees are homosexual, anyway, and
> >    how? If not, is it fair to travelers who may end up getting "groped" by
> >    homosexual TSA agents who are secretly getting turned on through the
> >    process?
> >    - Could the TSA be subjected to a sexual harassment lawsuit if the
> >    agent who engages in an overly aggressive "same-gender pat-down" -- and gets
> >    sued -- turns out to be homosexual?
>
> > LaBarbera said that even if it could be assumed that most TSA agents --
> > regardless of their sexual proclivities -- would act professionally, that is
> > not the issue. Male TSA agents -- no matter how "professional" their conduct
> > -- cannot frisk female travelers.
>
> > "To allow homosexual agents to conduct same-gender pat-downs is tantamount
> > to a new form of discrimination that must be recognized and prevented," he
> > said.
>
> > Christian Newswire<http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=tuqepibab&et=1103929834730&s=20791&e=00...>
>
> > *To: National Desk*
>
> > *Contact: Peter LaBarbera,
> > Americans For Truth About Homosexuality,
> > 630-717-7631,
> > americansfortr...@gmail.com*
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Re: Pics and toons 11/15/10 (2)

Those grains of truth are hard to swallow.

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Re: Fwd: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'

Bruce,

If I must be frisked I want a woman to do it.... I hafta get something
out of it!!!!!
>
> I think it's Obama's green socialist plot to destroy the airline industry
> and eliminate flying as a common mode of travel for middle class people.
>  Cars will be next
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Beowulf < wrote:
>
> > Don't Ask, Don't Tell!
>
> > B
>
> > *From:* Individual-Sovereig...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > Individual-Sovereig...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Majors
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:42 PM
> > *To:* DCRadFeysCommun...@yahoogroups.com; individual-sovereignty; 3.
> > mainstreamlibertarians
> > *Cc:* politicalforum; Politics_CurrentEvents_Gr...@yahoogroups.com;
> > polit...@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* [I-S] Fwd: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving
> > 'Same-gender Pat-downs'
>
> > So forcing people into another coercive association once again inflames
> > tensions and bigotry
>
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: *Christian Newswire* <newsd...@christiannewswire.com>
> > Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:10 PM
> > Subject: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender
> > Pat-downs'
> > To: majors.br...@gmail.com
>
> > Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'
>
> > *CHICAGO,* *Nov. 16* /Christian Newswire/ -- Americans For Truth About
> > Homosexuality (AFTAH) today questioned the propriety of "same-gender' TSA
> > (Transportation Security Administration) "pat-downs" -- if the TSA agents
> > doing the 'patting down" are homosexual, lesbian or bisexual.
>
> > Homeland Security Sec. Janet Napolitano went out of her way yesterday to
> > stress that the TSA pat-downs are "same-gender" -- mostly to reassure women
> > that men will not be groping them at airports in the name of safety.
>
> > "But what about homosexual TSA agents?" AFTAH President Peter LaBarbera
> > responded. "Isn't it just as inappropriate for a 'gay' male TSA agent to pat
> > down male travelers as it is for a normal, heterosexual male TSA agent to
> > pat down female travelers?
>
> > "The reality is, most traveling men would not want Barney Frank to pat them
> > down at the airport security checkpoint," LaBarbera said. "Neither would it
> > be fair to assign Ellen DeGeneres to pat down female travelers. (In the same
> > vein, the Army should no more force normal male soldiers to shower and bunk
> > with homosexual male soldiers than it would force females soldiers to bunk
> > and shower with their male counterparts.)"
>
> > The TSA, as a federal agency, is barred from discriminating on the basis of
> > "sexual orientation," thanks to a pro-homosexual Executive Order<http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=tuqepibab&et=1103929834730&s=20791&e=00...>signed by President Clinton in 1998.
>
> > Said LaBarbera: "Obviously Napolitano wants to assure the public that
> > sexual tension will be taken out of the equation. Hence, we must take
> > seriously the self-identified desires of homosexuals. 'Gay' men define
> > themselves as being sexually attracted to other men. Lesbians are sexually
> > attracted to women. And bisexuals are attracted to both." Some observations:
>
> >    - Perhaps some common-sense, healthy "discrimination" is in order: the
> >    TSA should put conditions on employment for self-acknowledged homosexuals --
> >    that they not be assigned to pat down travelers so as to avoid being put in
> >    sexually compromising situations;
> >    - It would not be workable to assign, say, gay male TSA agents to pat
> >    down female travelers -- as the latter -- thinking the agents to be normal
> >    men -- would protest that they are being patted down by males. Chaos would
> >    ensue;
> >    - Does the TSA know which of its employees are homosexual, anyway, and
> >    how? If not, is it fair to travelers who may end up getting "groped" by
> >    homosexual TSA agents who are secretly getting turned on through the
> >    process?
> >    - Could the TSA be subjected to a sexual harassment lawsuit if the
> >    agent who engages in an overly aggressive "same-gender pat-down" -- and gets
> >    sued -- turns out to be homosexual?
>
> > LaBarbera said that even if it could be assumed that most TSA agents --
> > regardless of their sexual proclivities -- would act professionally, that is
> > not the issue. Male TSA agents -- no matter how "professional" their conduct
> > -- cannot frisk female travelers.
>
> > "To allow homosexual agents to conduct same-gender pat-downs is tantamount
> > to a new form of discrimination that must be recognized and prevented," he
> > said.
>
> > Christian Newswire<http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=tuqepibab&et=1103929834730&s=20791&e=00...>
>
> > *To: National Desk*
>
> > *Contact: Peter LaBarbera,
> > Americans For Truth About Homosexuality,
> > 630-717-7631,
> > americansfortr...@gmail.com*
>
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Re: VDH on the Terrorists

Hey DICK!!!


I dont know why, But calling some guy DICK just doesnt seem lady like!

On Nov 16, 6:02 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> *- Works and Days -http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson-*
> Clickhere
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> print.
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> Dead Souls
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> Posted By_Victor Davis Hanson_On November 14, 2010 @ 8:09 am
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>
> Millions of us shuffle around, sighing that most of what we hear pounded
> into our brains is either banal or as untrue as it is dangerous to
> identify it as such. So we ignore it, we the dead souls who live in the
> world of unmentionable thoughts.
>
> *The world of banality*
>
> Here is a daily inanity: "The great majority of Muslims are moderates,"
> and its ancillary: "Only a tiny percentage of Muslims are terrorists."
> Both are true, but they have value as admonishments only if there were a
> widespread Western effort to demonize Islam and persecute Muslims, or we
> knew that mass destruction required millions of conventional troops. But
> neither is true.
>
> Last year anti-Semitic hate crimes far outnumbered attacks in America on
> Muslims.
>
> Let us do some hypothetical math to suggest a small minority can be a
> very great worry. If the common referent of 1 billion Muslims in the
> world is roughly accurate, and if there are only, say, 10% of the number
> who are rather radical in their beliefs (e.g., the tens of millions in
> places like Iran, Lebanon, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia), we may be
> talking only about 100 million Muslims who are indifferent to speaking
> out against terrorism (we saw that reflected in a number of polls after
> 9/11 tracking public opinion in the Middle East, in which only a quarter
> to a third of the respondents had a positive opinion of Bin Laden or the
> tactic of suicide bombing.)
>
> And further if, of that 10% /100 million subset, only one in ten is
> actually sympathetic, or willing to offer aid, to terrorists, and if,
> among that population of about 10 million, another one in ten actually
> wishes to commit terrorist acts, then we would have 1 million Muslims
> worldwide to watch out for --- or one in a thousand Muslims that might
> cause some worry.
>
> In that context, I 'd prefer the other banality "not all Muslims are
> terrorists, but most of today's global terrorists are Muslims"--- given
> that terrorism of the age requires very few zealots. The miniscule .001%
> of the Muslim community as potential terrorists is quite a lot, given we
> never hear of the size of the pool from which we are postulating.
>
> *No military solution!*
>
> I heard this banality four times this week on the air and at two
> lectures: "There is no military solution!"
>
> Well, yeah, of course, you cannot bomb or blow up your way to democracy
> in Iraq or Afghanistan. But who ever embraced that straw man as the sole
> answer in our ongoing wars?
>
> The fact is that in both theaters only military action can demoralize
> the terrorists and insurgents enough to back off to allow ongoing
> diplomacy and so-called nation-building to proceed.
>
> Iraq is fairly stable not just because of constitutional reform and Ryan
> Crocker's inspired diplomacy or Gen. Petraeus's brilliant efforts to
> assure civilians hope and safety, but also because the U.S. military and
> the Sons of Iraq in the Anbar Awakening annihilated vast cadres of
> al-Qaeda and radical Sunni terrorists.
>
> The history of war suggests gridlocked conflicts evolve to diplomatic
> solutions once one side fears losing or at least sees it cannot win. The
> banality of "there is no military solution" among today's elites has
> become synonymous with either "we are losing" or "we want out."
>
> *The unmentionables*
>
> Then there are the unmentionables that we dead souls carry around as
> well. All matters that even touch on race are good examples. The
> California papers are now heralding that the state's schools have a
> majority of Hispanic students. But while that is good news to liberals
> who seem to see race as essential not incidental to larger society, it
> raises then some very uncomfortable corollaries for reporters --- such
> as, is there any connection to why California's once top-flight public
> schools have fallen to near dead last in test scores, given millions of
> non-English speakers?
>
> Answers are offered in our major newspapers this week along the
> following lines. We are told in these articles that only 40% of Latino
> parents can vote (= if they could vote, would schools change for the
> better? And why did parents not take action to qualify to vote? And did
> not they already vote --- with their feet --- by the very fact they fled
> their homes to risk something entirely alien in the north?)
>
> In order not to address those questions, an "expert" is introduced into
> the article to reference school board elections where noncitizens might
> vote (= if one does not follow the law, change it!). We are next
> reminded in these reports that few parents speak fluent English. Presto!
> --- another PhD is found to suggest that rather than illegal aliens
> learning English, California should learn Spanish (= if a century and a
> half of custom is bothersome, drop the custom).
>
> We the dead souls read this and conclude just the opposite: Massive
> illegal immigration into the state --- by millions over the last two
> decades from the interior of Mexico --- has resulted in a sizable
> resident population with no English, no high school diplomas, and no
> legality. For most in these rubrics, an entry-level, manual-labor job
> too often became a dead-end one at minimal wages --- with all the
> ripples we'd expect into the second generation.
>
> Therefore one should stop illegal immigration, restore respect for the
> law, push English immersion, and stress the traditional American melting
> pot of cultural assimilation --- on the theory those who flee the
> nightmare of today's Mexico surely do not wish to recreate up here what
> they left down there, and instead are ready for a different social,
> economic, cultural, and political paradigm that explains why life
> changes radically from Tijuana to San Diego.
>
> Then a nanosecond later, we the dead souls sigh that we know such a
> melting-pot paradigm would work, and yet will not be tried in this era
> of the "salad bowl." Those who voice the unmentionable will be branded
> as racists by those who are mostly a) terrified of living in a world
> like they see today in Mexico; and b) believe that they live in a
> neighborhood or earn an income or navigate in a world that insulates
> them from the concrete wages of their easy political correctness.
>
> *Rhetorically ignorant --- or "he's back*"
>
> Andrew Sullivan is an iconic character of these depressing times --- a
> sort of herky-jerky Paris Hilton of the blogosphere, in which brash
> amorality, such as accusing the Palins of faking pregnancies or smearing
> officials as "war criminals," substitutes for any real thinking.
>
> His latest attack last week offers another teachable moment. Sullivan
> claimed that I, and others, committed the "big lie" (note the
> characteristic Sullivan bombast: "liar," "torturer," "criminal" are
> favorite slurs) by stating that Obama did not believe in American
> exceptionalism, based on the president's following remarks:
>
> "I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits
> believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek
> exceptionalism. I'm enormously proud of my country and its role and
> history in the world. If you think about the site of this summit and
> what it means, I don't think America should be embarrassed to see
> evidence of the sacrifices of our troops, the enormous amount of
> resources that were put into Europe postwar, and our leadership in
> crafting an Alliance that ultimately led to the unification of Europe.
> We should take great pride in that.
>
> And if you think of our current situation, the United States remains the
> largest economy in the world. We have unmatched military capability. And
> I think that we have a core set of values that are enshrined in our
> Constitution, in our body of law, in our democratic practices, in our
> belief in free speech and equality, that, though imperfect, are
> exceptional."
>
> Here Obama engaged in what in American parlance is sometimes known as
> prebuttal (see below) --- the anticipation of criticism to come through
> preemptive qualification.
>
> But Sullivan thinks that the "context" and qualifiers that Obama tacked
> on, praising the U.S., nullify the force of his more dramatic and
> sarcastic introductory statement: "I believe in American exceptionalism,
> just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and
> the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism." Therefore those of us who
> quoted Obama to the effect that the president felt American
> exceptionalism was simply a variant of what all countries profess were
> peddlers of the "big lie."
>
> Of course, Obama really did make it clear that exceptionalism is just a
> notion that every state claims, America no differently than any others
> in its belief in its own singularity. But Sullivan leaps to the puerile
> conclusion that the Obama add-ons, the prebuttal, nullify the force of
> the controversial statement.
>
> Yet such subsidiary amplification --- sometimes known to the Greeks
> as/prolepsis/and sometimes more technically with elements
> of/procatalepsis/, and perhaps/antanagoge/--- serves two purposes: the
> controversial theme can be voiced for the record, and yet the speaker is
> protected from criticism by preemptive qualification. We know what Obama
> meant since he otherwise need not have said anything about
> exceptionalism; we also know that the na�ve or disingenuous partisan
> like Sullivan would immediately point to the qualifiers.
>
> Most politicians do this. When George Bush gave his May 1, 2003,
> "Mission Accomplished" speech on the deck of the/USS Lincoln/, he
> infamously stated, "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the
> Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."
>
> Bush wanted to convey the thought that we had won the war and so spoke
> as he did. He also wished to qualify what he said, just in case violence
> again broke out. So he added all sorts of add-ons and qualifiers in the
> speech, starting with the word "major" (as in maybe less major combat
> has not ended). There were others like this in the speech, such as: "And
> now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that
> country." And this: "We have difficult work to do in Iraq." And this:
> "The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is
> worth every effort. Our coalition will stay until our work is done. Then
> we will leave, and we will leave behind a free Iraq."
>
> One could argue that Bush's "major combat operations ... have ended"
> statement referenced only more "major" combat operations in the
> three-week war against Saddam's conventional forces and government
> alone, and not insurgencies or terrorism or non-conventional fighting,
> but I won't argue that. I think even Bush regretted that premature
> assessment, which often had the later effect to discourage noting
> progress from the surge, given the public's remembrance of the prior
> false hope.
>
> I think instead Bush wanted to assure the nation that most fighting of
> all sorts was largely over, and yet he was not entirely certain of that
> --- thus the qualifications. He was logically faulted for that speech by
> the Left, especially by the likes of Andrew Sullivan, who posted
> repeated attacks on the controversial "major combat operations in Iraq
> have ended," but who on that occasion ignored the qualifiers that
> followed throughout the speech. Sullivan, however, is never consistent
> in his criticism because he suffers,/inter alia/, from the worst trait
> of a commentator --- the constant desire to adjust his own opinions,
> often in blatantly hypocritical and contradictory style, to the assumed
> prevailing view.
>
> Bombast and hyperbole do not denote passion of belief or sincerity.
>
> *Notice*s
>
> This week, I gave an internet lecture ("The Life of an Ancient Soldier")
> and Q&A with Philip Terry as part of Professor Paul Cartledge's (Clare
> College, Cambridge) global efforts to commemorate the 2,500th
> anniversary of the Athenian (and Plataean) victory at Marathon. It can
> be accessed athttp://www.marathon2500.org/. Cartledge wrote, among his
> many books, an underappreciated biography of the Spartan King Agesilaos
> (/Agesilaos and the Crisis of Sparta/). I say underappreciated because
> the title misleads; the book is really a comprehensive history of
> fourth-century Greece and Sparta in particular, with a wealth of
> insights and references.
>
> In September, C-Span, as part of their series to tape representative
> classes at American colleges, came to Hillsdale, where I was teaching
> for a month. The video of a class on World War II, in particular
> emphasizing the strategy of Churchill, Hitler, Roosevelt, and Stalin,
> can be found here. Warning --- the class was a marathon one, and I
> lectured without notes and impromptu for the entire period of three
> hours. Although I haven't watched it yet, I imagine there are plenty of
> slips, given the lack of a prepared text (the same is true of the
> Marathon lecture). The preview of the long tape is here:
>
> http://www.cspan.org/Watch/Media/2010/11/14/HP/A/40577/FDR+Churchill+...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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>
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>
> Copyright � 2010 Pajamas Media. All rights reserved.

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Re: Is everyone on this list Moderated?

You are prejudice against gringos?


For some reason, you act like a southerner, so I ASSumed that you
were, perhaps you are a fantastic actor? I bet you never thought of it
that way

On Nov 16, 1:18 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Merc,
>
> I take absolute offense that you would consider me a Gringo much less
> a Southern Gringo. Assumptions are a bitch.
>
> On Nov 16, 12:09 pm, Merc <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > How many times have I been a new member?
>
> > What would happen if Merc was let loose in here? Oh, crap, the horror
> > she could do!! You dont get kissed very often, I can tell!
>
> > Another SOUTHERNER YOU are,  I can tell by your fraud intelligence, So
> > rampant on these political forums.
>
> > On Nov 15, 4:02 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Merc,
>
> > > You, as any new member, are indeed Moderated. Until it is shown that
> > > you can be basically civil you will remain so.
>
> > > Is "Bad Ass" as you use it to be considered literally or is a misspelt
> > > Colloquialism for 'bad assed'??
>
> > > On Nov 15, 2:11 pm, Merc <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Or is it just the bad ass chicks that get moderated?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: Is everyone on this list Moderated?

Merc,

I take absolute offense that you would consider me a Gringo much less
a Southern Gringo. Assumptions are a bitch.

On Nov 16, 12:09 pm, Merc <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How many times have I been a new member?
>
> What would happen if Merc was let loose in here? Oh, crap, the horror
> she could do!! You dont get kissed very often, I can tell!
>
> Another SOUTHERNER YOU are,  I can tell by your fraud intelligence, So
> rampant on these political forums.
>
> On Nov 15, 4:02 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Merc,
>
> > You, as any new member, are indeed Moderated. Until it is shown that
> > you can be basically civil you will remain so.
>
> > Is "Bad Ass" as you use it to be considered literally or is a misspelt
> > Colloquialism for 'bad assed'??
>
> > On Nov 15, 2:11 pm, Merc <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Or is it just the bad ass chicks that get moderated?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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Re: Fwd: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'

OMG, Just when I thought Republicans couldnt sink any lower!!!

That cartoon should be banned, its totally perverted

On Nov 16, 1:15 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> it's more don't let a stranger stick a finger in you I think
>
> I think it's Obama's green socialist plot to destroy the airline industry
> and eliminate flying as a common mode of travel for middle class people.
>  Cars will be next
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Beowulf < wrote:
>
> > Don't Ask, Don't Tell!
>
> > B
>
> > *From:* Individual-Sovereig...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
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> > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:42 PM
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> > mainstreamlibertarians
> > *Cc:* politicalforum; Politics_CurrentEvents_Gr...@yahoogroups.com;
> > polit...@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* [I-S] Fwd: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving
> > 'Same-gender Pat-downs'
>
> > So forcing people into another coercive association once again inflames
> > tensions and bigotry
>
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: *Christian Newswire* <newsd...@christiannewswire.com>
> > Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:10 PM
> > Subject: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender
> > Pat-downs'
> > To: majors.br...@gmail.com
>
> > Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'
>
> > *CHICAGO,* *Nov. 16* /Christian Newswire/ -- Americans For Truth About
> > Homosexuality (AFTAH) today questioned the propriety of "same-gender' TSA
> > (Transportation Security Administration) "pat-downs" -- if the TSA agents
> > doing the 'patting down" are homosexual, lesbian or bisexual.
>
> > Homeland Security Sec. Janet Napolitano went out of her way yesterday to
> > stress that the TSA pat-downs are "same-gender" -- mostly to reassure women
> > that men will not be groping them at airports in the name of safety.
>
> > "But what about homosexual TSA agents?" AFTAH President Peter LaBarbera
> > responded. "Isn't it just as inappropriate for a 'gay' male TSA agent to pat
> > down male travelers as it is for a normal, heterosexual male TSA agent to
> > pat down female travelers?
>
> > "The reality is, most traveling men would not want Barney Frank to pat them
> > down at the airport security checkpoint," LaBarbera said. "Neither would it
> > be fair to assign Ellen DeGeneres to pat down female travelers. (In the same
> > vein, the Army should no more force normal male soldiers to shower and bunk
> > with homosexual male soldiers than it would force females soldiers to bunk
> > and shower with their male counterparts.)"
>
> > The TSA, as a federal agency, is barred from discriminating on the basis of
> > "sexual orientation," thanks to a pro-homosexual Executive Order<http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=tuqepibab&et=1103929834730&s=20791&e=00...>signed by President Clinton in 1998.
>
> > Said LaBarbera: "Obviously Napolitano wants to assure the public that
> > sexual tension will be taken out of the equation. Hence, we must take
> > seriously the self-identified desires of homosexuals. 'Gay' men define
> > themselves as being sexually attracted to other men. Lesbians are sexually
> > attracted to women. And bisexuals are attracted to both." Some observations:
>
> >    - Perhaps some common-sense, healthy "discrimination" is in order: the
> >    TSA should put conditions on employment for self-acknowledged homosexuals --
> >    that they not be assigned to pat down travelers so as to avoid being put in
> >    sexually compromising situations;
> >    - It would not be workable to assign, say, gay male TSA agents to pat
> >    down female travelers -- as the latter -- thinking the agents to be normal
> >    men -- would protest that they are being patted down by males. Chaos would
> >    ensue;
> >    - Does the TSA know which of its employees are homosexual, anyway, and
> >    how? If not, is it fair to travelers who may end up getting "groped" by
> >    homosexual TSA agents who are secretly getting turned on through the
> >    process?
> >    - Could the TSA be subjected to a sexual harassment lawsuit if the
> >    agent who engages in an overly aggressive "same-gender pat-down" -- and gets
> >    sued -- turns out to be homosexual?
>
> > LaBarbera said that even if it could be assumed that most TSA agents --
> > regardless of their sexual proclivities -- would act professionally, that is
> > not the issue. Male TSA agents -- no matter how "professional" their conduct
> > -- cannot frisk female travelers.
>
> > "To allow homosexual agents to conduct same-gender pat-downs is tantamount
> > to a new form of discrimination that must be recognized and prevented," he
> > said.
>
> > Christian Newswire<http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=tuqepibab&et=1103929834730&s=20791&e=00...>
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> > *To: National Desk*
>
> > *Contact: Peter LaBarbera,
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> > 630-717-7631,
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Re: [I-S] Fwd: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'

it's more don't let a stranger stick a finger in you I think

I think it's Obama's green socialist plot to destroy the airline industry and eliminate flying as a common mode of travel for middle class people.  Cars will be next

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Beowulf < wrote:
 

Don't Ask, Don't Tell!

 

B

 

From: Individual-Sovereignty@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Individual-Sovereignty@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Majors
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:42 PM
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Subject: [I-S] Fwd: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'

 

 

So forcing people into another coercive association once again inflames tensions and bigotry

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Subject: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'
To: majors.bruce@gmail.com

Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'

CHICAGO, Nov. 16 /Christian Newswire/ -- Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH) today questioned the propriety of "same-gender' TSA (Transportation Security Administration) "pat-downs" -- if the TSA agents doing the 'patting down" are homosexual, lesbian or bisexual.

Homeland Security Sec. Janet Napolitano went out of her way yesterday to stress that the TSA pat-downs are "same-gender" -- mostly to reassure women that men will not be groping them at airports in the name of safety.

"But what about homosexual TSA agents?" AFTAH President Peter LaBarbera responded. "Isn't it just as inappropriate for a 'gay' male TSA agent to pat down male travelers as it is for a normal, heterosexual male TSA agent to pat down female travelers?

"The reality is, most traveling men would not want Barney Frank to pat them down at the airport security checkpoint," LaBarbera said. "Neither would it be fair to assign Ellen DeGeneres to pat down female travelers. (In the same vein, the Army should no more force normal male soldiers to shower and bunk with homosexual male soldiers than it would force females soldiers to bunk and shower with their male counterparts.)"

The TSA, as a federal agency, is barred from discriminating on the basis of "sexual orientation," thanks to a pro-homosexual Executive Order signed by President Clinton in 1998.

Said LaBarbera: "Obviously Napolitano wants to assure the public that sexual tension will be taken out of the equation. Hence, we must take seriously the self-identified desires of homosexuals. 'Gay' men define themselves as being sexually attracted to other men. Lesbians are sexually attracted to women. And bisexuals are attracted to both." Some observations:

  • Perhaps some common-sense, healthy "discrimination" is in order: the TSA should put conditions on employment for self-acknowledged homosexuals -- that they not be assigned to pat down travelers so as to avoid being put in sexually compromising situations;
  • It would not be workable to assign, say, gay male TSA agents to pat down female travelers -- as the latter -- thinking the agents to be normal men -- would protest that they are being patted down by males. Chaos would ensue;
  • Does the TSA know which of its employees are homosexual, anyway, and how? If not, is it fair to travelers who may end up getting "groped" by homosexual TSA agents who are secretly getting turned on through the process?
  • Could the TSA be subjected to a sexual harassment lawsuit if the agent who engages in an overly aggressive "same-gender pat-down" -- and gets sued -- turns out to be homosexual?

LaBarbera said that even if it could be assumed that most TSA agents -- regardless of their sexual proclivities -- would act professionally, that is not the issue. Male TSA agents -- no matter how "professional" their conduct -- cannot frisk female travelers.

"To allow homosexual agents to conduct same-gender pat-downs is tantamount to a new form of discrimination that must be recognized and prevented," he said.

Christian Newswire

To: National Desk

Contact: Peter LaBarbera,
Americans For Truth About Homosexuality,
630-717-7631,
americansfortruth@gmail.com

 

 

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Re: Pics and toons 11/15/10 (2)

These are dull, are you a Republican?

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Helloooooooooooo

Helloooooooooo

Thats my ECHO in an EMPTY room!


and

you are skeered im going to RUIN your forum!!


No

Thats not it at all, there is something else. Now what could it be,
its making me crazy!

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Re: Is everyone on this list Moderated?

How many times have I been a new member?


What would happen if Merc was let loose in here? Oh, crap, the horror
she could do!! You dont get kissed very often, I can tell!

Another SOUTHERNER YOU are, I can tell by your fraud intelligence, So
rampant on these political forums.


On Nov 15, 4:02 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Merc,
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> You, as any new member, are indeed Moderated. Until it is shown that
> you can be basically civil you will remain so.
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> Is "Bad Ass" as you use it to be considered literally or is a misspelt
> Colloquialism for 'bad assed'??
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> On Nov 15, 2:11 pm, Merc <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Fwd: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'

So forcing people into another coercive association once again inflames tensions and bigotry

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Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Subject: Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'
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Should Gay TSA Agents be Barred from Giving 'Same-gender Pat-downs'

CHICAGO, Nov. 16 /Christian Newswire/ -- Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH) today questioned the propriety of "same-gender' TSA (Transportation Security Administration) "pat-downs" -- if the TSA agents doing the 'patting down" are homosexual, lesbian or bisexual.

Homeland Security Sec. Janet Napolitano went out of her way yesterday to stress that the TSA pat-downs are "same-gender" -- mostly to reassure women that men will not be groping them at airports in the name of safety.

"But what about homosexual TSA agents?" AFTAH President Peter LaBarbera responded. "Isn't it just as inappropriate for a 'gay' male TSA agent to pat down male travelers as it is for a normal, heterosexual male TSA agent to pat down female travelers?

"The reality is, most traveling men would not want Barney Frank to pat them down at the airport security checkpoint," LaBarbera said. "Neither would it be fair to assign Ellen DeGeneres to pat down female travelers. (In the same vein, the Army should no more force normal male soldiers to shower and bunk with homosexual male soldiers than it would force females soldiers to bunk and shower with their male counterparts.)"

The TSA, as a federal agency, is barred from discriminating on the basis of "sexual orientation," thanks to a pro-homosexual Executive Order signed by President Clinton in 1998.

Said LaBarbera: "Obviously Napolitano wants to assure the public that sexual tension will be taken out of the equation. Hence, we must take seriously the self-identified desires of homosexuals. 'Gay' men define themselves as being sexually attracted to other men. Lesbians are sexually attracted to women. And bisexuals are attracted to both." Some observations:

  • Perhaps some common-sense, healthy "discrimination" is in order: the TSA should put conditions on employment for self-acknowledged homosexuals -- that they not be assigned to pat down travelers so as to avoid being put in sexually compromising situations;

  • It would not be workable to assign, say, gay male TSA agents to pat down female travelers -- as the latter -- thinking the agents to be normal men -- would protest that they are being patted down by males. Chaos would ensue;

  • Does the TSA know which of its employees are homosexual, anyway, and how? If not, is it fair to travelers who may end up getting "groped" by homosexual TSA agents who are secretly getting turned on through the process?

  • Could the TSA be subjected to a sexual harassment lawsuit if the agent who engages in an overly aggressive "same-gender pat-down" -- and gets sued -- turns out to be homosexual?

LaBarbera said that even if it could be assumed that most TSA agents -- regardless of their sexual proclivities -- would act professionally, that is not the issue. Male TSA agents -- no matter how "professional" their conduct -- cannot frisk female travelers.

"To allow homosexual agents to conduct same-gender pat-downs is tantamount to a new form of discrimination that must be recognized and prevented," he said.

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