the talk about Muslims also controlling governments will bend the mind
a bit. — J. A. A. —
>
On Apr 26, 3:44 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> J. Ashley: I care very little about "besting you" by twisting your
> words. In the USA if you proposed atheism and "organized" followers
> for that, you would be subverting the government (a Representative
> Republic) and that would be TREASON. If your ideal is having a
> minimum efficient government, that is legal. But advocating no
> government will get you in a heap of trouble very quickly. What would
> most likely happen is that you would be arrested and made to undergo
> psychiatric evaluation. It's unlike you would pass muster. Sorry I
> can't be more supportive. Being "right" of me is to be guilty of
> TREASON. — J. A. Armistead — Patriot
>
> On Apr 25, 11:58 am, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> wrote:
>
> > John,
>
> > Once again you have twisted what was said to reflect what you want to hear.
>
> > I never said that Belgium was "the ideal of the world." I merely pointed
> > out that Belgium has gone more than 300 days without a national
> > government and they are doing just fine.
>
> > On 04/25/2011 06:15 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > > Mark: Tell that to J. Ashley. He's holding up Belgium as the ideal
> > > of the world, and Jonathan is an out-and-out anarchist. — J. A. A. —
> > > On Apr 24, 11:37 pm, Mark<markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> There is no "anarchy in Belgium:
> > >> *an·ar·chy*/ˈanərkē/Noun
> > >> 1. A state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.
> > >> 2. Absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as
> > >> a political ideal.
>
> > >> It is not history, it is current events.
>
> > >> If you are writing a constitution you should have known this. You should
> > >> also know that absolute Democracy, absolute Communism and Socialism are for
> > >> the most part identical in practice (if it were possible)
>
> > >> To say we need more Democracy as you often do is the same as saying we need
> > >> more Communism and or Socialism....
>
> > >> Just how ignorant are you ??
>
> > >> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:02 PM, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
> > >>> Mark: Please find yourself a history buff. I'm not the least
> > >>> interested in anarchy, in Belgium or anywhere! — J. A. A. —
> > >>> On Apr 22, 4:33 pm, Mark<markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> And it still functions without the lawmakers.... Go figure.
> > >>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Jonathan Ashley<
> > >>>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> John,
> > >>>>> "In terms of comparative social spending on welfare-related programs as
> > >>> a
> > >>>>> percentage of the gross domestic product (GDP), Denmark ranks first,
> > >>>>> spending more than 29 percent of GDP on its welfare-related programs.
> > >>> Next
> > >>>>> is Sweden (nearly 29 percent), followed by France, Germany, Belgium,
> > >>>>> Switzerland, Austria, and Finland. The United Kingdom ranks in the
> > >>> middle of
> > >>>>> the pack in 13th place (nearly 22 percent of GDP). The United States
> > >>> ranks
> > >>>>> near the bottom, in 26th place (out of 29), spending less than 15
> > >>> percent of
> > >>>>> its GDP on social welfare programs. The United States ranks just ahead
> > >>> of
> > >>>>> Ireland, Mexico, and South Korea."
> > >>>>>http://pagerankstudio.com/Blog/2011/03/what-is-welfare-state/
> > >>>>> ------------------------------
> > >>>>> On 04/22/2011 08:41 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> > >>>>> On average, yes they are! Few in Belgium look to government for
> > >>>>> handouts. In the USA, close to 45% want a government handout.
> > >>>>> Anything over 5% is excessive. But that's why I've written my New
> > >>>>> Constitution—to get government out of the hand-out, pull-the-strings
> > >>>>> business! — John A. Armistead — Patriot
> > >>>>> On Apr 21, 9:56 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <
> > >>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> So, you're saying the People of Belgium are better People than those
> > >>> in
> > >>>>> the United States?
> > >>>>> J. Ashley: Run your experiments in Belgium, then! The USA would be
> > >>>>> in civil war... � J. A. A. �
> > >>>>> On Apr 21, 12:04 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <
> > >>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> John,
> > >>>>> It is highly doubtful that we would return to the stone age without
> > >>>>> government. Belgium has been without a national government for more
> > >>> than
> > >>>>> 313 days and "Belgians say the absence of a government doesn't make
> > >>> much
> > >>>>> of a difference in their daily lives."
> > >>>>> On 04/20/2011 08:42 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
> > >>>>> Jonathan: You are showing some smarts there! Since I am an untra-
> > >>>>> conservative capitalist, I don't like being... "left" of anyone,
> > >>>>> because that would seem to make me... a God-damned liberal. I
> > >>>>> deliberately avoided using the "L" word, because I am the exact
> > >>>>> opposite. If your ego considers being an anarchist more conservative
> > >>>>> than me, consider this: The USA would return to the 'stone ages'
> > >>>>> within one month of there being no government(s). So, your "ideal" of
> > >>>>> no taxation and no government won't benefit a soul on Earth. Is
> > >>>>> having you "get real" too much to ask? � J. A. Armistead �
> > >>> Patriot
> > >>>>> On Apr 20, 12:50 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <
> > >>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> John,
> > >>>>> Since anarchy is absence of government, how can one be "right" of
> > >>>>> anarchy? (I don't actually expect an answer, as you NEVER answer
> > >>>>> questions posed to you.)
> > >>>>> On 04/20/2011 01:54 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> > >>>>> Jonathan: For you, anything 'right' of anarchy is socialist. I
> > >>>>> suggest you write your one paragraph constitution banning government.
> > >>>>> Unless you are from the stone ages, you won't survive very long on
> > >>>>> your own. � J. A. A. �
> > >>>>> On Apr 18, 11:53 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <
> > >>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> But John, you're the one who has written a socialist constitution.
> > >>>>> On 04/18/2011 08:31 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
> > >>>>> Jonathan: Mainly he's done that by attacking the capitalist system
> > >>>>> that made this country great; and by supposing that government should
> > >>>>> control everything (with him in charge). The fact that you even ask
> > >>>>> that question confirms my initial gut reaction that you are a
> > >>>>> socialist-communist, like 95% of Democrats are. The remaining 5% are
> > >>>>> just stupid. You're in both of those groups. � J. A. Armistead �
> > >>>>> Patriot
> > >>>>> On Apr 18, 3:03 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> <
> > >>> jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> John,
> > >>>>> That you own stock in a company that routinely downgrades websites
> > >>> based
> > >>>>> on "link relevance" over "content relevance" says much about your
> > >>>>> credibility regarding the understanding of what freedom of expression
> > >>> means.
> > >>>>> That you believe Obama "has caused more economic and social harm to the
> > >>>>> USA than any other person who ever lived, including Hitler" seems
> > >>>>> ludicrous. Just how has he (as an individual) been able to pull off
> > >>> this
> > >>>>> tremendous task?
> > >>>>> On 04/17/2011 09:05 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> > >>>>> Dear Mark: I own Google stock. It's an American multinational
> > >>>>> Corporation that's headquartered in Mountain View, California. Google
> > >>>>> World shows the new complex quite well. In many ways you are very
> > >>>>> naive. Your obvious desire to protect Barack Obama's neck from the
> > >>>>> noose is tantamount to looking-the-other-way to those who commit
> > >>>>> TREASON every day of their existence. Would you put on moderation
> > >>>>> someone who proposes that Libyan President Kadafi should be killed?
> > >>>>> Do you suppose it is Google's obligation to protect those who kill
> > >>>>> their citizens? Hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans have
> > >>>>> committed suicide because of the bad economy and the lack of jobs
> > >>>>> resulting from Obama's socialist-capitalist policies. He has caused
> > >>>>> more economic and social harm to the USA than any other person who
> > >>>>> ever lived, including Hitler.
> > >>>>> Treason is a recognized capital offense. Those in our government and
> > >>>>> in our law enforcement who don't press to have that bastard arrested,
> > >>>>> tried and hanged are themselves in violation of the Constitution for
> > >>>>> giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Keith suggested that you,
> > >>>>> Jonathan and MJ are anxious to read my next "missive". He's viewed
> > >>>>> you all in a favorable light, before. As for me, I suspect you are so
> > >>>>> screwed-up in the head that you are both for and against having a
> > >>>>> better government. That means you have schizophrenia. Get some couch-
> > >>>>> time, Mark. You need it! � J. A. Armistead � Patriot
> > >>>>> On Apr 16, 10:28 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE<markmka...@gmail.com> <
> > >>> markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> Einstein,
> > >>>>> Again, you mistake me for someone that is liable under the present, or
> > >>>>> your future, US Constitution. The message you received is the standard
> > >>>>> message sent to all new or moderated members, get used to it. It
> > >>>>> originates from outside the US and is also not liable under US law.
> > >>>>> Isn't the internet grand when the originating country has the
> > >>>>> responsibility for what is or is not allowed under their law(s).
> > >>>>> On Apr 16, 7:11 pm, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net> <
> > >>> noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >>>>> Dear Keith: I sensed that there was a
>
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>
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