socialist-communist, are undeserving of a reply. — J. A. A. —
>
On Mar 3, 11:16 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
wrote:
> Once again, John has resorted to name calling instead of answering the
> 10 specific questions I asked regarding HIS New Constitution.
>
> "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
> not sure about the former."
> - Albert Einstein
>
> On 3/2/2011 7:19 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
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> > Folks: Jonathan, the socialist-communist, is undeserving of a reply.
> > � J. A. A. �
> > On Mar 2, 1:29 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> > wrote:
> >> John,
>
> >> You wrote:
>
> >> *> Dear Keith: Obviously, you are bright. Anyone agreeing with me has to
> >> be!*
>
> >> It is obvious to me that you have the arrogance required of a dictator.
> >> As for the implication by reference that you are "bright," let us look
> >> at some of what you have included in your reply to Keith.
>
> >> *> 1st Amendment: No law shall be made regarding the establishment of
> >> peaceable religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, but
> >> government, its campaigns, processes, slogans, and disbursements shall
> >> be secular.*
>
> >> 1) I read this to mean that your as yet un-ratified New Constitution
> >> already has Amendments attached to it. Am I correct? If so, why are
> >> these amendments not included directly in YOUR New Constitution?
>
> >> 2) Who is going to decide whether or not a religion is "peaceful"? A
> >> Christian? A Hindu? A Buddhist? An Islamic?
>
> >> 3) Who is going to ensure that "government, its campaigns, processes,
> >> slogans, and disbursements shall be secular"?
>
> >> 4) Who is going to prevent a Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Islamic from
> >> influencing your secular government?
>
> >> 4) Why do you believe "government, its campaigns, processes, slogans,
> >> and disbursements" need be secular?
> >> *
> >> > No law nor private or civil action shall abridge: the freedom of
> >> speech; *
>
> >> You already abridged the freedom of speech when you declared
> >> "government, its campaigns, processes, slogans, and disbursements shall
> >> be secular."
>
> >> *> the freedom of a fair and pro-democracy press or other medium;*
>
> >> 1) Who will determine whether a "press or other medium" is being "fair
> >> and pro-democracy"?
>
> >> 2) Why do you believe it necessary for a "press or other medium" to
> >> be"pro-democracy"?Democracy is nothing more than two wolves and a sheep
> >> deciding on what to have for dinner.
>
> >> *> the right of People to peaceably assemble; and the right of any
> >> Citizen or group to petition government or any of its branches or
> >> departments for redress of grievances.*
>
> >> It was nice of you to leave this portion of the 1st Amendment of our
> >> current Constitution in tact.
>
> >> *> Citizens so petitioning government shall receive appropriate,
> >> relevant, timely, comprehensive, helpful and just responses from proper
> >> authorities who have thoroughly read, understood, and addressed each
> >> salient aspect of the grievances or requests for directions or
> >> clarifications.*
>
> >> 1) Who is to determine what constitutes an "appropriate, relevant,
> >> timely, comprehensive, helpful and just response"?
>
> >> 2) Who determines a "proper" authority from an "improper" authority?
>
> >> 3) Who will determine whether the "proper authorities" "have thoroughly
> >> read, understood, and addressed each salient aspect of the grievances or
> >> requests for directions or clarifications"?
>
> >> I am having too much fun to continue.
>
> >> Based on what I have read so far, YOUR New Constitution lack constructs
> >> such as...*
>
> >> Rule of construction*
>
> >> If there is any significant doubt concerning whether an official has
> >> a power, or a person has an immunity from the exercise of a power,
> >> the presumption shall be that the official does not have the power,
> >> or conversely, that the person has the immunity.
>
> >> *Access to grand jury, appointment of prosecutors*
>
> >> No person shall be unreasonably impeded from access to a randomly
> >> selected grand jury of 23, who, if they should return an indictment
> >> or presentment, may appoint that person or any other to prosecute
> >> the case, and shall decide which court, if any, has jurisdiction,
> >> and whether any official shall have official immunity from suit.
>
> >> The above constructs come from Jon Roland of the Constitution Society.http://constitution.org/reform/us/con_amend.htm
>
> >> On 3/2/2011 9:18 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> >>> Dear Keith: Obviously, you are bright. Anyone agreeing with me has
> >>> to be! But you are weak-spirited to suppose that things can be left
> >>> going as they are... and the USA will somehow... survive. There are
> >>> three approximately equal problem areas in the USA: (1.) The horrible
> >>> and immensely wasteful school systems; (2.) The corrupt, elitist and
> >>> controlling media; and (3.) our career-politician-dominated
> >>> governments, seldom deferential to the electorates. Number (2.) is
> >>> responsible for number (3.). That's why FIXING the media has to be a
> >>> top priority! Fixing our corrupt governments can happen very quickly
> >>> following the ratification of my New Constitution. But fixing the
> >>> media will require monitoring what gets said and done and imprisoning
> >>> errant individuals, or shutting down any media not conforming to the
> >>> very clear dictates of my New Constitution. To wit:
> >>> "Bill of Rights and Amendments:
> >>> 1st Amendment: No law shall be made regarding the establishment of
> >>> peaceable religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, but
> >>> government, its campaigns, processes, slogans, and disbursements shall
> >>> be secular. No law nor private or civil action shall abridge: the
> >>> freedom of speech; the freedom of a fair and pro-democracy press or
> >>> other medium; the right of People to peaceably assemble; and the right
> >>> of any Citizen or group to petition government or any of its branches
> >>> or departments for redress of grievances. Citizens so petitioning
> >>> government shall receive appropriate, relevant, timely, comprehensive,
> >>> helpful and just responses from proper authorities who have thoroughly
> >>> read, understood, and addressed each salient aspect of the grievances
> >>> or requests for directions or clarifications. Failure to so respond
> >>> to a rightful petition for redress of a grievance shall, on a single
> >>> provable instance, terminate the apt one�s employment, especially
> >>> those in management or public office�including judges and justices�who
> >>> ignore, frustrate or give the run-around to any competent Citizen who
> >>> has been diligent in having a grievance properly addressed, or in
> >>> having his or her civil rights fully upheld. No judge or justice
> >>> shall presume that by performing the above required duties, that they
> >>> in any way might be compromising their objectivity or fairness in
> >>> court; justice be not �blind�, but well informed. *** Freedom of the
> >>> press or other medium mandates that there be reasonable truthfulness
> >>> in reporting. Wanton distortion of the truth, or deliberate omission
> >>> of the truth�except in cases of obvious fiction or satire�is
> >>> prohibited. Stating or implying that a particular news medium has a
> >>> collective voice (we) or position on any issue is prohibited, as for
> >>> example via: anonymous editorials; regularly occurring accompanying
> >>> comments; commentary programs financed by, or ideologically screened
> >>> by, the same news medium; editorials named as being authored by
> >>> management; editorial comments by others that are in any way
> >>> ideologically censored, omitted or screened; or by comments occurring
> >>> at specific times or designated locations that most would come to
> >>> associate with the management of such medium, even if such are
> >>> innocuous. No medium shall be a forum for promoting the ideology of
> >>> its management or owners, nor shall they employ anyone who uses such
> >>> job to hawk their personal political preferences�at risk of loss of
> >>> license or closure of the business. Flagrantly editing news to
> >>> promote the ideology of management is a felony. No medium shall
> >>> analyze, assess, summarize, or make subjective judgments about any
> >>> pending election or referendum. Nor shall they invite others outside
> >>> of the media to do so. But factual, thorough coverage of the
> >>> candidates or referenda issues�on an as occurs basis�is allowed,
> >>> provided there are no comments, nor actions, as above, and provided
> >>> the same unbiased coverage is given to all of the candidates or to all
> >>> of the referenda issues. It shall be a 10 year felony to repress
> >>> truthful news reporting in any medium by threatening legal action. No
> >>> medium can be sued for libel for presenting material authored by
> >>> others, but if a person is harmed by the medium�s content, they shall
> >>> be allowed to reply�without editing�in that medium. Each medium shall
> >>> respond to breaking news without considering the response of any other
> >>> medium. Injuries due to improper news coverage or non coverage shall
> >>> not be excused by the media response. A medium reporting on
> >>> government shall do so thoroughly, objectively, and with detachment�
> >>> being neither laudatory nor critical by form, and not repressing
> >>> thoughtful dissent nor its coverage. Every medium shall favor the
> >>> truth over supposition, without parity nor bias. False or deceptive
> >>> commercial advertising is prohibited. Deliberate use by any
> >>> candidate, their staffs or election committees, of false or deceptive
> >>> campaign speeches, slogans, advertisements, humor, or innuendo is a
> >>> felony. No organization, nor part of the media, nor any special
> >>> interest group(s) shall in any way endorse a slate of candidates for
> >>> public office; flagrant violation is a felony. No medium shall
> >>> display active public records without the free consent of the apt
> >>> parties."
> >>> And ... "It shall be a felony
>
> ...
>
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