Re: Spanish Torture Investigation into Gitmo to Continue

A private citizen with no privilege? LOL! We should all get six figure
pensions plus benefits, an office and staff and 24 hour secret service
protection at taxpayer expense as "private citizens." I wonder what
the Secret Service would do if the Heespanioles tried to pick him up.
LOL!

On Mar 3, 2:22 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Keith,
>
> They aren't.... all those people mentioned are "Private Citizens" now,
> aren't they. They no longer have "Privilege", nor should they.
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mark,
>
> > The Nation of Spain has no dominion, jurisdiction, authority, or
> > "bravissimo"  to put on trial, ANY United States President, Vice-President,
> > or any of their advisors, period.  No one in the European Union has such
> > authority.
>
> > Take it to the bank,
>
> > Keith
>
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:45 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Keith,
>
> >> Neither US law nor the thoughts or ideas of non-Spanish residents and
> >> or citizens has a place in a Spanish courtroom. The US has held trials
> >> of foreign nationals that committed crimes against US property and or
> >> US citizens that took place on foreign soil.... Spain (as every bit
> >> Sovereign and legitimate as the US) and its courts has the very same
> >> prerogative. As a member of the EU it has co-opted trading rights/
> >> regulations within that Organization that would have to include/
> >> exclude all of the EU just to get to Spain... That ain't gonna
> >> happen.
>
> >> If that court, under Spanish law, is/was found to be competent to hold
> >> the trial.... it will happen and the rulings will be recognized.
>
> >> It has nothing and everything to do with the haphazard US Bravissimo
> >> and tolerances for stepping outside their own constitution.
>
> >> (843) 767-2600
> >>  On Mar 3, 9:54 am, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Much ado about nothing.   Any rational person who has read, and studied
> >> > Steven Bradbury's May 10, and May 30, 2005 Memoranda, as well as Jay
> >> Bybee's
> >> > John Yoo's and the "Rumsfeld Defense Department Working Group's"
> >> Memoranda,
> >> > along with Professor Jeffrey F. Addicott's May 13, 2009 testimony, (and
> >> I
> >> > will gladly post all of these memoranda for you MJ and Noelle,  if the
> >> both
> >> > of you have not read these treatise);  coupled with the Convention
> >> Against
> >> > Torture and the Treaty of Rome, would have to conclude that there is no
> >> > basis to allege that our Nation ever tortured anyone, period.
>
> >> > To suggest that Spain has any "jurisdiction", or right, ability,
> >> dominion,
> >> > or moral high ground to charge Americans who advised our President, much
> >> > less to do so against our former President and Vice President, and those
> >> who
> >> > made the decision to conduct these enhanced interrogation tactics, is
> >> > outrageous.   Anyone who does support Spain and this homosexual Spanish
> >> > Judge  Baltazar Garzón is either a complete, total, uninformed wacko
> >> left,
> >> > socialist elitist Moonbat, and/or they are something far more sinister,
> >> > which is just a  flat out Anti-American traitor.  There is no room for
> >> > any other option here, it is either one or the other.
>
> >> > The Garzón allegations stem from two Moonbats who wrote a paper in
> >> February
> >> > 2006, which was published by the Anti-American group, "Human Rights
> >> First".
> >> > This paper contains numerous prevaricate statements, mistruths, and out
> >> > right lies.   The Pentagon, the State Department and the United Nations
> >> >  have dismissed many of the allegations, especially that 98 prisoners
> >> had
> >> > died while in captivity as bogus.
>
> >> > Again, the last I checked, Spain had made the determination *not* to
> >> follow
> >> > through with any prosecutions, because they know to do so would be
> >> suicidal
> >> > from a diplomatic standpoint.  The fact that any American would advocate
> >> > another Nation-State charging and prosecuting our President is
> >> outrageous,
> >> > and yes, TRAITOROUS!!!
>
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