Monday, January 10, 2011

Re: GAY RIGHTS

Markie Mark-

Here is your homework assignment.

Read thes 1,138 Federal Statutes about Civil Marriage Rights which are
denied to same gender couples, and then report back tell me why you
were wrong 1,138 times.

The 1,138 Benefits and Protections of Marriage
Click Here:
http://www.ralliance.org/1138.html

On 1/9/11, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
> Markie Mark-
>
> Wrong again. There are over 1,300 codified laws and privleges directly
> concerning civil marriage and marriage contracts. Those laws concern
> the ACT and contract, and NOT the "one word" as you falsely claim.
>
> On 1/9/11, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tommy, tommy , tooooooommmmmmmyyyyyy,
>>
>> Government has NOT codified "Marriage" as you are using it. They have
>> simply
>> defined the word "marriage" (not the act of being "joined" legally,
>> civilly
>> or religiously.
>>
>> Read the statute... it is all about the definition of ONE word... NOT the
>> act.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wrong again, Keithie Keith Keith.
>>>
>>> I suggest you take a good look at the 14th Amendment again, and at the
>>> recent court rulings on DOMA and Prop 8, and you will see that you are
>>> incorrect.
>>>
>>> Civil marriage is not Religious marriage, and I suggest you get that
>>> simple concept through your thick offensive anti-gay animus filled
>>> homophobic skull.
>>>
>>> As long as the government codifies civil marriage, all citizens must
>>> be included in those laws equally regardless of gender. Anything less
>>> is unconstitutional, discriminatory, and unjust. Churches are then
>>> free to bless those civil marriages or not as they choose. There are
>>> plenty of Progressive churches that will.
>>>
>>> You are repeating your false Reich wing spin, Lil' Keithie Keith.
>>>
>>> On 1/8/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > DOMA is very much Constitutional, This is where folks try and
>>> > redefine
>>> the
>>> > term and concept of marriage, which is a ecclisastical function. Tom
>>> > and
>>> > most militant Gays who wish to force their lifestyle down Americans'
>>> > proverbial throats, (Note how Tom defined and described the term "Gay"
>>> > above, yet a few days ago was attempting to claim that the term, "Gay"
>>> had
>>> > nothing at all to do with sexuality) want to redefine the term and
>>> concept
>>> > of marriage, in order to force their secularist beliefs upon the
>>> > American
>>> > public.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:27 AM, GregfromBoston
>>> > <greg.vincent@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Tell the president. I did
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jan 7, 9:22 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Yes, Greg.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I believe that DOMA is indeed unconstitutuional.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Well Tom, you just echoed the court on why DOMA is
>>> >> > > unconstitutional.
>>> >> > > It IS.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > On Jan 7, 8:22 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >> Markie Mark-
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> Your statements are naive and you are clearly uneducated.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> At the time the Constitution was written in the late 18th
>>> >> > >> Century,
>>> >> "gay"
>>> >> > >> simply meant festive, happy, or beautiful, and the term had
>>> >> > >> nothing
>>> >> > >> to
>>> >> do
>>> >> > >> with sexuality whatsoever. Since the term did not refer to
>>> >> same-gendered
>>> >> > >> "friendship", which was the term used for same gender
>>> >> > >> relationships
>>> >> > >> at
>>> >> > >> that
>>> >> > >> time, the term "gay" does not exist in the Constitution at all,
>>> >> > >> as
>>> >> > >> the
>>> >> > >> term
>>> >> > >> as we now use it did not exist. In fact, in the 1780's, Sex was
>>> >> > >> rarely
>>> >> > >> ever
>>> >> > >> discussed or mentioned at all outside of close private
>>> >> > >> encounters
>>> >> between
>>> >> > >> "friends" and couples behind closed doors. The Constitution
>>> >> > >> does,
>>> >> however,
>>> >> > >> state in the 14th amendment that discrimination against any
>>> >> > >> citizen
>>> >> > >> is
>>> >> > >> unlawful: " All persons born or naturalized in the United
>>> >> > >> States,
>>> and
>>> >> > >> subject to the jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> thereof, are
>>> >> citizens of
>>> >> > >> the United States and of the State wherein they reside.( No )
>>> >> > >> State
>>> >> shall
>>> >> > >> make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or
>>> >> immunities
>>> >> > >> of
>>> >> > >> citizens of the United States; nor shall any State
>>> >> > >> deprive<glossary.html#DEPRIVE>any person of life, liberty, or
>>> >> > >> property, without due
>>> >> > >> process <consttop_duep.html> of law; nor deny to any person
>>> >> > >> within
>>> >> > >> its
>>> >> > >> jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> the equal protection of the
>>> laws."
>>> >> > >> Therefore, the current unequal second calss citizen status of
>>> >> > >> gays
>>> in
>>> >> the
>>> >> > >> United States is unlawful, unconstitutional, and discriminatory.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> So there you have it, Markie. I hope that this lesson in
>>> >> > >> etymology
>>> >> > >> and
>>> >> the
>>> >> > >> Constitution enlightens you somewhat.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE
>>> >> > >> <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > Tommy,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution that
>>> Gays
>>> >> > >> > (etc) do not have.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list them.
>>> >> > >> > Just
>>> >> what
>>> >> > >> > are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life that
>>> >> > >> > others
>>> >> > >> > have.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only be
>>> >> granted
>>> >> > >> > on a State level.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different
>>> >> "privileges"
>>> >> > >> > and "licenses" that are left to the "Several States" are not
>>> >> > >> > now
>>> >> nor
>>> >> > >> > were they ever meant to be, "Rights".
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being
>>> >> > >> > that
>>> >> which
>>> >> > >> > makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. (I
>>> would
>>> >> > >> > NEVER live in Texas)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use
>>> >> > >> > laws,
>>> >> > >> > marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL
>>> >> > >> > vary
>>> >> > >> > from
>>> >> > >> > State to State because the "Several States" have the "Right"
>>> >> > >> > to
>>> >> > >> > make
>>> >> > >> > it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State as
>>> long
>>> >> as
>>> >> > >> > it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed and
>>> >> > >> > Constitutionally enumerated "Rights".
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and Enumerated
>>> >> "Rights"
>>> >> > >> > are you lacking ??
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for each.
>>> Then
>>> >> we
>>> >> > >> > can discuss it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate
>>> >> (remember,
>>> >> > >> > Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an earnest
>>> >> > >> > discussion.
>>> >> >
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>>> Tommy
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>>
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> Tommy
>


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