Monday, January 10, 2011

Re: GAY RIGHTS

Since when. Given the lack of support for his Stimulus policies,
his Cash for Clunkers, his HCR bill he is surely not listening to most
of the people. In fact he says WE WON!!! even though all the
polls,even from his pet media sources, tell us that the public does not
think he is going the right direction with his policies. What you are
saying just means that he is also a left wing, Marxist Moonbat.

On 01/09/2011 09:45 PM, Tommy News wrote:
> Greg-
> I wrote to President Obama several times. He has replied to me, and he
> has included my suggestions in his Exective Proclamation on making
> June LGBT pride month, which Dubya had recinded as "unnecessary".
> President Obama used my exact wording in that Proclamation,
> transcribed directly and exactly from my letter.
>
> I also have a certificate signed by the President stating that I
> co-signed the health reform bill with him. I have yet another very
> recent email from The White House telling me that a personal thank you
> letter from President Obama about DADT repeal and my hard work on that
> issue will be on the way to me as soon as it has been written and
> signed. It is nice to know that this President is listening to We, the
> People.
>
> On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston<greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Tell the president. I did
>>
>> On Jan 7, 9:22 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, Greg.
>>>
>>> I believe that DOMA is indeed unconstitutuional.
>>>
>>> On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston<greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well Tom, you just echoed the court on why DOMA is unconstitutional.
>>>> It IS.
>>>> On Jan 7, 8:22 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Markie Mark-
>>>>> Your statements are naive and you are clearly uneducated.
>>>>> At the time the Constitution was written in the late 18th Century,
>>>>> "gay"
>>>>> simply meant festive, happy, or beautiful, and the term had nothing to
>>>>> do
>>>>> with sexuality whatsoever. Since the term did not refer to
>>>>> same-gendered
>>>>> "friendship", which was the term used for same gender relationships at
>>>>> that
>>>>> time, the term "gay" does not exist in the Constitution at all, as the
>>>>> term
>>>>> as we now use it did not exist. In fact, in the 1780's, Sex was rarely
>>>>> ever
>>>>> discussed or mentioned at all outside of close private encounters
>>>>> between
>>>>> "friends" and couples behind closed doors. The Constitution does,
>>>>> however,
>>>>> state in the 14th amendment that discrimination against any citizen is
>>>>> unlawful: " All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
>>>>> subject to the jurisdiction<glossary.html#JURIS> thereof, are citizens
>>>>> of
>>>>> the United States and of the State wherein they reside.( No ) State
>>>>> shall
>>>>> make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or
>>>>> immunities
>>>>> of
>>>>> citizens of the United States; nor shall any State
>>>>> deprive<glossary.html#DEPRIVE>any person of life, liberty, or
>>>>> property, without due
>>>>> process<consttop_duep.html> of law; nor deny to any person within its
>>>>> jurisdiction<glossary.html#JURIS> the equal protection of the laws."
>>>>> Therefore, the current unequal second calss citizen status of gays in
>>>>> the
>>>>> United States is unlawful, unconstitutional, and discriminatory.
>>>>> So there you have it, Markie. I hope that this lesson in etymology and
>>>>> the
>>>>> Constitution enlightens you somewhat.
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE
>>>>> <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> Tommy,
>>>>>> Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution that Gays
>>>>>> (etc) do not have.
>>>>>> You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list them. Just
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life that others
>>>>>> have.
>>>>>> Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only be
>>>>>> granted
>>>>>> on a State level.
>>>>>> ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different "privileges"
>>>>>> and "licenses" that are left to the "Several States" are not now nor
>>>>>> were they ever meant to be, "Rights".
>>>>>> Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being that which
>>>>>> makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. (I would
>>>>>> NEVER live in Texas)
>>>>>> Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use laws,
>>>>>> marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL vary from
>>>>>> State to State because the "Several States" have the "Right" to make
>>>>>> it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State as long
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed and
>>>>>> Constitutionally enumerated "Rights".
>>>>>> Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and Enumerated
>>>>>> "Rights"
>>>>>> are you lacking ??
>>>>>> I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for each. Then
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> can discuss it.
>>>>>> I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate (remember,
>>>>>> Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an earnest
>>>>>> discussion.
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>>>>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>>>>> Have a great day,
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