Monday, January 10, 2011

Re: GAY RIGHTS

Is it not strange to all that " gays " do not have the natural
ability to procreate. A man & a man, can not a child carry, a woman &
a woman can not a child germinate. The only rights any have is life
and giving life. There are a low percentage of heterosexuals that are
unable to procreate because of infertility but there are no gay men
combination or lesbian pair that can. Anything other than
heterosexuality is merely a perversion and any perversion in
heterosexuality is nothing but perversion. It is always the perverts
that proclaim rights for that which is obviously wrong.

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On Jan 9, 9:56 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The 1,138 Benefits and Protections of Marriage
> Direct link:http://www.gao.gov/atext/d04353r.txt
>
> On 1/9/11, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Markie Mark-
>
> > Here is your homework assignment.
>
> > Read thes 1,138 Federal Statutes about Civil Marriage Rights which are
> > denied to same gender couples, and then report back tell me why you
> > were wrong 1,138 times.
>
> > The 1,138 Benefits and Protections of Marriage
> > Click Here:
> >http://www.ralliance.org/1138.html
>
> > On 1/9/11, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Markie Mark-
>
> >> Wrong again. There are over 1,300 codified laws and privleges directly
> >> concerning civil marriage and marriage contracts. Those laws concern
> >> the ACT and contract, and NOT the "one word" as you falsely claim.
>
> >> On 1/9/11, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Tommy, tommy , tooooooommmmmmmyyyyyy,
>
> >>> Government has NOT codified "Marriage" as you are using it. They have
> >>> simply
> >>> defined the word "marriage" (not the act of being "joined" legally,
> >>> civilly
> >>> or religiously.
>
> >>> Read the statute... it is all about the definition of ONE word... NOT
> >>> the
> >>> act.
>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Wrong again, Keithie Keith Keith.
>
> >>>> I suggest you take a good look at the 14th Amendment again, and at the
> >>>> recent court rulings on DOMA and Prop 8, and you will see that you are
> >>>> incorrect.
>
> >>>> Civil marriage is not Religious marriage, and I suggest you get that
> >>>> simple concept through your thick offensive  anti-gay animus filled
> >>>> homophobic skull.
>
> >>>> As long as the government codifies civil marriage, all citizens must
> >>>> be included in those laws equally regardless of gender. Anything less
> >>>> is unconstitutional, discriminatory, and unjust. Churches are then
> >>>> free to bless those civil marriages or not as they choose. There are
> >>>> plenty of Progressive churches that will.
>
> >>>> You are repeating your false Reich wing spin, Lil' Keithie Keith.
>
> >>>> On 1/8/11, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> > DOMA is very much Constitutional,   This is where folks try and
> >>>> > redefine
> >>>> the
> >>>> > term and concept of marriage, which is a ecclisastical function.  Tom
> >>>> > and
> >>>> > most militant Gays who wish to force their lifestyle down Americans'
> >>>> > proverbial throats, (Note how Tom defined and described the term
> >>>> > "Gay"
> >>>> > above, yet a few days ago was attempting to claim that the term,
> >>>> > "Gay"
> >>>> had
> >>>> > nothing at all to do with sexuality)  want to redefine the term and
> >>>> concept
> >>>> > of marriage, in order to force their secularist beliefs upon the
> >>>> > American
> >>>> > public.
>
> >>>> > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:27 AM, GregfromBoston
> >>>> > <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> >>>> >> Tell the president.  I did
>
> >>>> >> On Jan 7, 9:22 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >> > Yes, Greg.
>
> >>>> >> > I believe that DOMA is indeed unconstitutuional.
>
> >>>> >>  > On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> >> > > Well Tom, you just echoed the court on why DOMA is
> >>>> >> > > unconstitutional.
> >>>> >> > > It IS.
>
> >>>> >> > > On Jan 7, 8:22 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >> > >> Markie Mark-
>
> >>>> >> > >> Your statements are naive and you are clearly uneducated.
>
> >>>> >> > >> At the time the Constitution was written in the late 18th
> >>>> >> > >> Century,
> >>>> >> "gay"
> >>>> >> > >> simply meant festive, happy, or beautiful, and the term had
> >>>> >> > >> nothing
> >>>> >> > >> to
> >>>> >> do
> >>>> >> > >> with sexuality whatsoever. Since the term did not refer to
> >>>> >> same-gendered
> >>>> >> > >> "friendship", which was the term used for same gender
> >>>> >> > >> relationships
> >>>> >> > >> at
> >>>> >> > >> that
> >>>> >> > >> time, the term "gay" does not exist in the Constitution at all,
> >>>> >> > >> as
> >>>> >> > >> the
> >>>> >> > >> term
> >>>> >> > >> as we now use it did not exist. In fact, in the 1780's, Sex was
> >>>> >> > >> rarely
> >>>> >> > >> ever
> >>>> >> > >> discussed or mentioned at all outside of close private
> >>>> >> > >> encounters
> >>>> >> between
> >>>> >> > >> "friends" and couples behind closed doors. The Constitution
> >>>> >> > >> does,
> >>>> >> however,
> >>>> >> > >> state in the 14th amendment that discrimination against any
> >>>> >> > >> citizen
> >>>> >> > >> is
> >>>> >> > >> unlawful: " All persons born or naturalized in the United
> >>>> >> > >> States,
> >>>> and
> >>>> >> > >> subject to the jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> thereof, are
> >>>> >> citizens of
> >>>> >> > >> the United States and of the State wherein they reside.( No )
> >>>> >> > >> State
> >>>> >> shall
> >>>> >> > >> make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or
> >>>> >> immunities
> >>>> >> > >> of
> >>>> >> > >> citizens of the United States; nor shall any State
> >>>> >> > >> deprive<glossary.html#DEPRIVE>any person of life, liberty, or
> >>>> >> > >> property, without due
> >>>> >> > >> process <consttop_duep.html> of law; nor deny to any person
> >>>> >> > >> within
> >>>> >> > >> its
> >>>> >> > >> jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> the equal protection of the
> >>>> laws."
> >>>> >> > >> Therefore, the current unequal second calss citizen status of
> >>>> >> > >> gays
> >>>> in
> >>>> >> the
> >>>> >> > >> United States is unlawful, unconstitutional, and
> >>>> >> > >> discriminatory.
>
> >>>> >> > >> So there you have it, Markie. I hope that this lesson in
> >>>> >> > >> etymology
> >>>> >> > >> and
> >>>> >> the
> >>>> >> > >> Constitution enlightens you somewhat.
>
> >>>> >> > >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE
> >>>> >> > >> <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>> >> > >> > Tommy,
>
> >>>> >> > >> > Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution that
> >>>> Gays
> >>>> >> > >> > (etc) do not have.
>
> >>>> >> > >> > You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list them.
> >>>> >> > >> > Just
> >>>> >> what
> >>>> >> > >> > are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life that
> >>>> >> > >> > others
> >>>> >> > >> > have.
>
> >>>> >> > >> > Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only
> >>>> >> > >> > be
> >>>> >> granted
> >>>> >> > >> > on a State level.
>
> >>>> >> > >> > ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different
> >>>> >> "privileges"
> >>>> >> > >> > and "licenses"  that are left to the "Several States" are not
> >>>> >> > >> > now
> >>>> >> nor
> >>>> >> > >> > were they ever meant to be, "Rights".
>
> >>>> >> > >> > Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being
> >>>> >> > >> > that
> >>>> >> which
> >>>> >> > >> > makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. (I
> >>>> would
> >>>> >> > >> > NEVER live in Texas)
>
> >>>> >> > >> > Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use
> >>>> >> > >> > laws,
> >>>> >> > >> > marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL
> >>>> >> > >> > vary
> >>>> >> > >> > from
> >>>> >> > >> > State to State because the "Several States" have the "Right"
> >>>> >> > >> > to
> >>>> >> > >> > make
> >>>> >> > >> > it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State
> >>>> >> > >> > as
> >>>> long
> >>>> >> as
> >>>> >> > >> > it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed
> >>>> >> > >> > and
> >>>> >> > >> > Constitutionally enumerated "Rights".
>
> >>>> >> > >> > Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and Enumerated
> >>>> >> "Rights"
> >>>> >> > >> > are you lacking ??
>
> >>>> >> > >> > I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for
> >>>> >> > >> > each.
> >>>> Then
> >>>> >> we
> >>>> >> > >> > can discuss it.
>
> >>>> >> > >> > I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate
> >>>> >> (remember,
> >>>> >> > >> > Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an earnest
> >>>> >> > >> > discussion.
>
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