Dick-
You could not be more wrong.
Gays have been serving since The American Revolution.
Time for them to serve openly, without being discharged.
I am my own master.
On 9/22/10, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
As a gay man who served proudly in the highest levels of the Pentagon during the JFK days - and with the highest security clearance as well - Tommy could not be more wrong. There were many gays serving then. We just did not parade around our sexual identity. We did our jobs to the best of our abiity and when we were off duty did our own thing. No problem at all. We also did not hit on the other soldiers we served with but then that is good practice in all business situations. Remember - never get your spread where you get your bread.
Y You are putting out lots of misinformation about what the military is about. You need to get better information other than what your "progressive" masters are shoveling to you before you open your mouth.
On 09/22/2010 01:53 PM, Keith In Tampa wrote:On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:mark (Tommy) says:McCain is an idiot. Not repelaing Dont ask dont tell is a slap to every red bloooded american who wants to serve his/her country but cant becuase they are gay. How stupid arew you Mccain. thank god you werent elected president.============So, under this presumption, no Gay men (or women) have ever served in the United States military. Ya might want to tell that to the proud Gay men and women who have served their Nation, since 1776.No Tom, the United States military will never be a place for you to hold parades, fashion shows, and sport your assless chaps and boas around, in order to sell your agenda. Just won't work there.....Thanks, John McCain -- Military Now 100 Percent StraightBy Patrick Connors, Wed., Sep. 22 2010 @ 7:55AMThe Senate was unable to stop Sen. John McCain's filibuster of the military authorization bill on Tuesday, which means that -- among other things -- the greatest democracy in the world is unwilling to stop the military from discharging LGBT personnel.
What's Sen. McCain thinking? Don't ask.
Not that the so-called repeal language included in the bill would have repealed the policy anyway. This military spending bill allows Don't Ask Don't Tell (DADT) to be repealed after Dec. 1, 2010 following a review and certification of the plan to cease enforcement by three bigwigs -- and then wait another 60 days -- (and stand on your left foot and extend your right arm) and then the policy will no longer be enforced.
Even a lousy repeal failed. Who gets the credit for the mess?
We know that there are gay people serving in the armed forces. We know that, as of 2009, more than 13,000 LGBTs have been discharged. We know that women and racial minorities are targeted more than white men under the policy.
We know from a CNN poll in May 2010 that 78 percent of Americans surveyed favored repeal of the policy. And yet we also know that military personnel don't want the gays to be open and they are scared that the bill could be repealed -- or not enforced.
There are two sides to the anti-gay military coin: One side wants gays to serve in the closet and the other side wants them rooted out and discharged.
This dynamic leaves America's political leaders' panties in a bunch.
President Barack Obama said in his January 2010 State of the Union address that he would repeal the policy. But he didn't do much to help to end McCain's filibuster -- no phone calls, no arm-twisting -- and yet he did find time to call the WNBA champions to congratulate them.
John McCain did his part too. Not only did he arrange this filibuster, he also stammered and freaked out and wet himself during a press conference following the Senate vote on Tuesday where he repeated incessantly that the military is NOT seeking out gay personnel to be discharged. That is not the policy. That is not the policy! Get off my lawn!
So, what are we to believe then, Senator McCain? Should we then assume that 13,000 people over the course of 17 years accidentally revealed their sexual identity? Is that how all those people were discharged?
They either volunteered the info or thousands and thousands of people just kept having "oopsie" moments during the Iraq occupation and shouted out "I suck cock!" as Saddam Hussein was chased out of his rabbit hole, right? Not likely.
Obama is clearly of very little worth to the LGBT population. He can't manage to speak the words that Lady Gaga has the courage to say -- that the bigots should be discharged, not the gays with the clean record. Rachel Maddow knew to speak with Major Mike Almy who was discharged during the Iraq war after the military went through his personal e-mail and discovered he is gay. Why wouldn't the Commander-in-Chief want to stand by his wronged soldier instead of allowing a discriminatory policy to stand?
The policy could be repealed after the election in November during a lame duck session but don't hold your breath. Frankly, I don't know what keeps an LGBT soldier serving in silence. Sure, there are benefits and the investment of time and energy to a military career would make it difficult to walk away. And there is that whole duty thing that I don't understand either.
If we really want to see the policy end, all the gays in the military need to start opening up the door of the closet -- just as McCain wants us to believe they already are doing anyway -- and out themselves to someone in command. Fuck 'em. Make the military conduct an investigation, spend money and do what they think is necessary to maintain good morale.
Make John McCain an honest man. Out yourselves. Nothing else is working. It's up to you.
More:http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/09/dadt_repeal_fail_military_now.php--
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