Tuesday, July 5, 2011

Re: There is No First Amendment Without a Second Amendment.

Thanks.....very well written and I appreciate the reorientation into reality.
 
S

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
Read this....


For wiki it is surprisingly accurate.

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Sharon Fuentes <oneforentropy@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark was it that or so that we could call up a militia?  Do you know which of the Federalist papers dicuss this issue?  It seems some 20+yrs ago in poli-sci we discussed this in context of a Federalist paper.  But old  age stress and a lot crap has diluted my memory.
 
 
 
Thanks
S
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:50 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember.... the Second amendment is in place not so we can repel
invaders whether home or national border... it is there so we can
protect ourselves from our own government.

On Jul 3, 8:33 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Like AMEX, Don 't Leave Home Without It.
>
> *A very timely reminder of just how and where we came from. And the
> Consequences of ever giving up your second amendment right. Happy 4th Of
> July, It's up to us to have many more.  ~Steve~*
>
> *Reposted From Tea Party Nation.*
>
> http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3355873%3ABlogPos...
>
> Posted by Alan Caruba<http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/profile/AlanCaruba>on
> July 2, 2011 at 5:00pm
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>
> By Alan Caruba
>
> When we celebrate the Fourth of July<http://www.history.com/topics/july-4th>,
> let's keep in mind that the first
> Americans<http://www.history.com/topics/states>won their independence
> from England with the force of arms. It was, in fact,
> a British effort in 1775 to confiscate military arms they believed were
> stored in Lexington and Concord, Massachusetts that sparked the war.
>
> The Founding Fathers were so aware of the need for an armed citizenry that,
> after ensuring freedom of religion, speech, press and the right to
> peacefully assemble in the First Amendment, the Second guaranteed their
> right to bear arms.
>
> Wherever authoritarian regimes were established in the last century, they
> took away this right and then proceeded to kill those deemed enemies of the
> state.
>
> At this point in American history, the Obama
> administration<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/obama-administration>constitutes
> a threat to the Constitution in general and the Second
> Amendment<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Co...>in
> particular.
> *More than 80,000,000 Americans are gun owners.*
>
> Two of the organizations that have been fighting to protect these rights are
> the Second Amendment
> Foundation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_Foundation>(SAF)
> and the Citizens
> Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear
> Arms<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Committee_for_the_Right_to_Keep...>(CCRKBA),
> both led by Alan M. Gottlieb. Three quarters of the SAF budget is
> devoted to defending rights pertaining to the ownership of guns and to carry
> them for self-defense.
>
> In March, the Huffington Post had an article titled "Obama Looking for Ways
> Around Congress on Gun
> Policy"<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/15/obama-gun-laws-congress_n_83...>by
> Sam Stein. "Faced with a Congress hostile to even slight restrictions
> of
> Second Amendment rights, the Obama administration is exploring potential
> changes to gun laws that can be secured strictly through executive action,
> administration officials, say."
>
> *Since then we have learned of a U.S. Alcohol, Tobacco and
> Firearms<http://www.atf.gov/>program, Fast and Furious, that actually
> facilitated the sale and transfer
> of guns to Mexico. How demented is that?*
>
> In May in my home state of New Jersey the SAF won a decision against
> officials for the deprivation of civil rights under the color of law when
> they had ruled that an applicant for a concealed carry permit had not
> demonstrated a "justifiable need" for it. In point of fact, the applicant,
> Philip Muller, had been kidnapped by members of a motorcycle gang who
> threatened to kill him. They had, however, grabbed the wrong man.
>
> Despite support by local and state police, action on his application was
> delayed for six months. Morris County Superior Court Judge David Ironson
> issued a directive that a permit should be granted. The case is still
> on-going with other plaintiffs that include a part-time sheriff's deputy, an
> applicant who carries large amounts of cash in his private business, and a
> civilian employee of the FBI with legitimate concerns of an attack from a
> radical Islamic group.
>
> Currently nearly thirty such cases have either been brought or joined by SAF
> to stop abuses of this most fundamental right of American citizens ranging
> from bans on interstate handgun sales, New York Mayor Michael
> Bloomberg<http://www.biography.com/articles/Michael-Bloomberg-16466704>'s
> imposition of a $340 fee for a permit to keep a handgun in one's home, and a
> Chicago ban on gun ranges open to the public. These cases cost between
> $60,000 and $80,000 each!
>
> *The greatest single threat to gun ownership right now is a United Nations
> "Small Arms Treaty" falsely identified as an "international arms control
> treaty" allegedly to fight terrorism."*
>
> "In reality," says Gottlieb, it is "a massive, global gun control scheme.
> It's a sham. It's a fraud." If the U.S., under the Obama administration and
> with the consent of the Senate, were to sign on to this treaty, it would
> nullify the Second Amendment.
>
> Suffice to say that the Obama administration wants to have the power to
> increase federal fees on guns and ammunition, to ban guns that are imported,
> to extend the waiting periods for permits, to ban the use of guns on all
> government property, and even to make it illegal if you own a gun and smoke!
>
> Americans do not have to "justify" gun ownership. It is guaranteed by the
> Second Amendment. The reality is that enemies of this fundamental rights
> continue to wage an assault on it.
>
> For information about SAF visithttp://www.saf.org/and CCRKBA athttp://www.ccrkba.org/.
>
> © Alan Caruba, 2011
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