Re: Empty Ritual is stymieing America's hopes

John is constantly redefining what socialism is in order to convolute the debate. He can't refute the facts we present because the facts don't support his beliefs.

On 05/16/2011 02:49 PM, MJ wrote:

So now socialism is no longer socialism? Is THAT how you resolve your own socialistic embrace? Simply REDEFINE terms?

As noted, socialism interferes with the free use of one's own private property.
I remain curious why 10% of the GNP is *magically* optimum.

Regard$,
--MJ

Every citizen who has produced or acquired a product, should have the option of applying it immediately to his own use or of transferring it to whoever on the face of the earth agrees to give him in exchange the object of his desires. To deprive him of this option . . . solely to satisfy the convenience of another citizen, is to legitimize an act of plunder and to violate the law of justice. -- Frédéric Bastiat




At 04:38 PM 5/16/2011, you wrote:

MJ:  You prove nothing by arguing that another way of characterizing
socialism is to claim such interferes with the free use of one's
property.  I say the same thing: Socialism STEALS from those who
actually WORK for a living to give to the good-for-nothings who are
unwilling to lift a finger, other than to vote in the most leftist
Democrats around.  You will never best me at anything, MJ, because you
simply don't measure up.  — NE —

On May 16, 2:05 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> At 07:36 PM 5/12/2011, you wrote:Dear MJ:  When the cost of running our government(s) starts
> approaching the optimum 10% of the GNP, there will be such a huge
> What makes 10% GNP 'optimum'?amount of cash available to purchase desired goods and services, the
> many more people should be willing to be charitable.  Socialism is
> FORCED charity that robs from the rich to give to the lazy and good-
> Nonsense.
> Socialism is INTERFERING in the free use of one's private property.
> Regard$,
> --MJAll States are governed by a ruling class that is a minority of the population, and which subsists as a parasitic and exploitative burden upon the rest of society. Since its rule is exploitative and parasitic, the State must purchase the alliance of a group of Court Intellectuals, whose task is to bamboozle the public into accepting and celebrating the rule of its particular State. The Court Intellectuals have their work cut out for them. In exchange for their continuing work of apologetics and bamboozlement, the Court Intellectuals win their place as junior partners in the power, prestige, and loot extracted by the State apparatus from the deluded public. -- Murray Rothbard

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