Saturday, February 12, 2011

Re: The poor are not getting poorer

On Feb 4, 5:16 pm, Wes <wesleykell...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> i didn't read your guy's s posts, please repeat if there's something u
> think i should here. to me the main thing is QUIT SHOPPING AT
> UNGAINFUL EMPLOYMENT.  i work very close to that and wish people would
> give a rip about where thgey spen d their finacial power.


That was a fine example of a rebuttal to the arguments! And here I
was enjoying that. Oh well. Sort of a meltdown at the end. Quit
shopping at "ungainful" employment? Not sure what you mean there.


>
> On Jan 31, 4:07 pm, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 31, 4:38 pm, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Lowering the taxes didn't seem to do anything.
>
> > > Clearly you missed the point. The problem will not be fixed by
> > > changing the tax rate, up or down.
>
> > They don't owe me a job, I don't owe them a lower tax rate.
>
> > > You're sarcastic "bye bye" has significant consequences. They go, the
> > > jobs go. Who do you think is going to do the employing AND who do you
> > > think will pay the taxes you so desperately want to rely on?
>
> > They're inconsequential to the larger picture.
> > Imagine, you, a guy who say's;
>
> > > US corporate executives care only how the
> > > company stock is trading on Wall Street. How their actions affect
> > > their employees, or the country as a whole, is of no concern to them.
>
> > Is that how we won WW2?
> > But it's exactly why we can't win all the other wars you put the US
> > in.
>
> > > > Of course they won't because the only thing that will in your mind is
> > > > lower taxes... the same lower taxes that didn't create any jobs
> > > > before.
>
> > > No where did I say lower taxes. You need to stop being so fixated on
> > > the raise/lower taxes argument. That IS NOT the problem.
>
> > Then why you debating it?
>
> > >Trading
> > > inequities and moving jobs overseas can not be fixed by increasing the
> > > marginal tax rate for those making more than xx dollars.
>
> > You have exactly what you wanted, free trade.
> > Now you make the argument that their isn't enough taxes on imported
> > goods?
> > You want things both ways, all ways, no ways, and then reformed ways.
> > But all you could think about during 8 years of Bush Jr. and 12 years
> > of a Republican Congress was.... war, security, para-military, police,
> > secrecy, eves dropping, intelligence gathering, etc. etc. etc.
>
> > > > It doesn't matter if there's zero taxes, they still couldn't compete
> > > > with countries that have $1 a day workers and $10 a day managers.
>
> > > Absolutely right! Likewise, a tax rate of 90% wouldn't help us
> > > compete, but compete we must. This is why taxes is not the answer.
> > > More US friendly trade agreements (monetary policies, opening markets
> > > to US goods, etc.) could help us compete, however. And if we're
> > > competitive we create more jobs, and if we create more jobs we'll have
> > > fewer people dependent on government and higher income from taxes.
>
> > > > Until they address the problem of a grossly over-paid management,
> > > > nothing will change.
>
> > > Fat cat corporate executives, corrupt 'good ole boy' corporate boards,
> > > etc., are all problematic. But you can't fix that problem with
> > > increased marginal tax rates.
>
> > You offer no answers to this.
> > You most certainly can fix it, you tax them into the poor house if
> > they don't police themselves.
> > Plenty other people just waiting to take their jobs at reduced
> > compensation.
>
> > > > Until then, you'll just have to keep blaming the unemployed, the poor,
> > > > the hungry, the indigent, those with poor health, Social Security,
> > > > unions, and all the other things Republitards typically put blame on.
>
> > > No disrespect, but your an idiot. You find one post of mine that
> > > supports such an asinine assertion and I'll apologize and buy you a
> > > beer.
>
> > Well let's put it this way then; when others of your party do, you say
> > nothing.
> > You are guilty by way of association.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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