Saturday, February 12, 2011

Re: I Think, Therefore I am Not

Frank-

Your obvious insult directed at me in this thred read thusly, and I quote you.
"The problem is you're so blinded by your bias that you
can't even tell you're looking into a mirror."

Personal insults are a direct violation of the rules and statement of
purpose of this group.

On 2/10/11, frankg <frankg2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you really so ignorant that you are unable to understand the point
> I'm making, or deliberately avoiding it because it exposes the
> hypocritical nature of the poll?
>
> My comment to you on this thread was not hateful nor was it about you.
> I simply pointed out the hypocrisy of the poll. To do that, I gave you
> a point for point equivalency to what Democrats were saying during the
> Bush years. Can you debate that or not?
>
> And a second challenge to you.. point out where in this thread I made
> hateful insults to you or anyone else.
>
>
> On Feb 10, 1:20 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Although I get alot of hateful insults and negative arguments from
>> Conservative
>> Pundits, Libertarian Loons, Wingnut Fascists, and Republican
>> Obstructionists, I still
>> believe that my informative efforts are worthwhile.
>>
>> Frank, I suggest that you should refrain from looking in the mirror, as it
>> may well shatter if you do.
>>
>> On 2/6/11, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Tommy,
>>
>> > As previously noted, the responses from this poll are absolutely no
>> > different than the responses given by Democrats during Bush's final
>> > six years. The problem is you're so blinded by your bias that you
>> > can't even tell you're looking into a mirror.
>>
>> > On Feb 6, 9:13 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Well, around here, it's sort of all part of the vast
>> >> evangelical-church-Republican-politics-"America"-first rightwing
>> >> thing. People learn from their ministers that God tolerates only
>> >> Republican politics and FOX News, and that "America" is exceptional,
>> >> so it's fully equipped--nay, required--to protect Israel so that Jesus
>> >> can return and they can be raptured before the really bad stuff
>> >> happens; then, they get to come back with Jesus and throw all the
>> >> "unperfected" Jews into the pit of fire, along with all the rest of us
>> >> who tolerated and cared for our fellow humans. I could go on, but I
>> >> already feel bad just for writing that much, and all it is is the
>> >> truth. But people who watch it believe FOX because they want to, and
>> >> because they believe it's the right thing to do.
>>
>> >> On 2/6/11, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > And yet MORE fallacy.
>> >> > Whether or not the Author is this, that or the other is MEANINGLESS
>> >> > as
>> >> > far
>> >> > as the veracity of his claim.
>> >> > Similarly, with what group he may or may not be aligned (or purported
>> >> > so) is
>> >> > equally MEANINGLESS.
>>
>> >> > Regard$,
>> >> > --MJ
>>
>> >> > Since World War II, and especially since the 1950s, the function of
>> >> > the
>> >> > Republican Party has been to be the "loyal, . . . . moderate,"
>> >> > "bi-partisan," pseudo-opposition to the collectivist and leftist
>> >> > program
>> >> > of
>> >> > the Democratic Party. Unlike the more apocalyptic and impatient
>> >> > Bolsheviks,
>> >> > the Mensheviks (or social democrats, or corporate liberals, or
>> >> > "responsible"
>> >> > liberals, or "responsible" conservatives, or neo-conservatives -- the
>> >> > labels
>> >> > change, but the reality remains the same) try to preserve an illusion
>> >> > of
>> >> > free choice for the American public, including a two-party system,
>> >> > and
>> >> > at
>> >> > least marginal freedom of speech and expression.
>>
>> >> > The goal of these "responsible" or "enlightened" moderates has been
>> >> > to
>> >> > participate in the march to statism, while replacing the older
>> >> > American
>> >> > ideals of free markets, private property, and limited government with
>> >> > cloudy
>> >> > and noisy rhetoric about the glories of "democracy," as opposed to
>> >> > the
>> >> > one-party dictatorship of the Soviet Union.
>>
>> >> > -- Murray Rothbard, Making Economic Sense
>>
>> >> > At 08:49 AM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Here's a little about the author, Jonathan Kantrowitz, from which
>> >> >> Tom
>> >> >> cites his purported "poll":
>>
>> >> >> Founder, Chief Executive Officer. Queue, Inc., an educational
>> >> >> publisher.
>> >> >> 1981-present; Assistant General Counsel. Touche Ross & Co.
>> >> >> 1977-1981;
>> >> >> Coordinator, Fairfield Over-30 Men's Soccer, 1987-present; Member,
>> >> >> Fairfield Board of Education, 1992-1994; Member, Fairfield Board of
>> >> >> Recreation, 1998-1999; Member, Fairfield TV Access Committee,
>> >> >> 2008-2009,
>> >> >> Economic Development Administrator, Town of Fairfield (consultant)
>> >> >> 2002;
>> >> >> Chairman, Fairfield Temporary Pool Committee, 2004, Chairman,
>> >> >> Fairfield
>> >> >> TV
>> >> >> Access Committee, 2008; Member, Fairfield Democratic Town Committee,
>> >> >> 1972-2002; Vice-Chairman, Fairfield Democratic Town Committee,
>> >> >> 1994-2000;
>> >> >> Democratic Candidate, U.S. Congress, 1994, 1998, State Senate 1972,
>> >> >> 1984;
>> >> >> Education:; Brown University: B.A. Economics (1966); Harvard Law
>> >> >> School:
>> >> >> JD (1969).
>>
>> >> >> A couple of thoughts come to mind. First, Kantrowitz is a prime
>> >> >> example
>> >> >> of an "Academian" and the reason that our schools and universites
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> such a mess. I would bet that Kantrowitz is a socialist also, but
>> >> >> there
>> >> >> can be no doubt that Kantrowitz has posted a hate filled prevaricate
>> >> >> rhetorical post, and this is an example of what he teaches his
>> >> >> pupils.
>>
>> >> >> Who took this poll? Who were the participants of the poll? Note
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> Kantrowitz does not reference any of these most important aspects.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> poll is basically not at all reliable and is another example of the
>> >> >> hate
>> >> >> coming from the far left extremist Anti-American socialistic
>> >> >> movement
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> is very vocal, but still nevertheless a small minority of our
>> >> >> Nation.
>> >> >> They should not be in charge of our schools and universities of
>> >> >> higher
>> >> >> education.
>>
>> >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:15 AM, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Tommy,
>>
>> >> >> Change the names of the talking heads and politicians, replace ACORN
>> >> >> stealing the election to simply stealing the election, replace
>> >> >> socialist with communist, impeached can stay in there, replace
>> >> >> "wants
>> >> >> the terrorists to win" with "9/11 was an inside job", etc., and we
>> >> >> could be discussing what the Democrats were saying about Bush a few
>> >> >> years ago. This type of hateful rhetoric solves nothing, is not
>> >> >> unique
>> >> >> to either party and generally just proves there are a lot of
>> >> >> intolerant idiots in both political parties.
>>
>> >> >> On Feb 4, 8:40 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > I Think, Therefore I am Not
>> >> >> > Glenn Beck.......Sarah Palin.....Ann Coulter....Rush
>> >> >> > Limbaugh....Michelle Bachmann.....Christine O`Donnell....John
>> >> >> > McCain....John Boehner.......Newt Gingrich.......Ron
>> >> >> > Paul.........Mitt
>> >> >> > Romney..........Mitch McConnell.........The Tea Party
>> >> >> > Sheeple......A
>> >> >> > Faux Noise Pundit.....A Republican Obstructionist......A
>> >> >> > Libertarian
>> >> >> > Loon..etc.
>>
>> >> >> > Republican Intelligence – an Oxymoron?
>>
>> >> >> > by Jonathan Kantrowitz
>>
>> >> >> > A new poll of self-identified Republicans released Tuesday shows a
>> >> >> > large slice of the GOP believes President Barack Obama is a
>> >> >> > "socialist" who was not born in this country, should be impeached,
>> >> >> > wants the terrorists to win and only won the 2008 election because
>> >> >> > ACORN "stole" it for him.
>>
>> >> >> > According to the poll, 63 percent of Republicans believe Obama is
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > socialist; 39 percent think Obama should be impeached; 24 percent
>> >> >> > said
>> >> >> > Obama wants "the terrorists to win"; and 31 percent agreed with
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > statement that Obama is "a racist who hates white people."
>>
>> >> >> > According to the survey, 36 percent of respondents do not believe
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > president was born in this country, and 21 percent think the
>> >> >> > liberal
>> >> >> > advocacy group ACORN stole the election for Obama.
>>
>> >> >> > Meanwhile, nearly a quarter of the Republicans polled, 23 percent,
>> >> >> > want their state to secede from the union.
>>
>> >> >> > Fifty-one percent of those polled believe sex education should not
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > taught in schools; 77 percent want creationism taught in schools;
>> >> >> > 31
>> >> >> > percent want contraception outlawed; and 34 percent believe birth
>> >> >> > control is "abortion."
>>
>> >> >> > More:
>> >> >> >http://blog.ctnews.com/kantrowitz/2010/02/04/republican-intelligence-.
>> >> >> > ..
>>
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> >> > Have a great day,
>> >> >> > Tommy
>>
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>> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> Have a great day,
>> >> Tommy
>>
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>> Have a great day,
>> Tommy
>
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Tommy

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