You sure I'm misguided?
On Jan 3, 9:35 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Greg-
>
> You are quite misinformed and misguided about pedophelia, I see. Your
> Reich wing statistics are incorrect.
> 99 percent of Pedophiles are heterosexual. About 90- 92 Percent of the
> population is heterosexual.
>
> Please read this in it's entirety and then report back to me:
>
> http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
>
> A snippet:
>
> Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as
> representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For
> example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian
> babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often
> lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women.
> In a similar fashion, gay people have often been portrayed as a threat
> to children. Back in 1977, when Anita Bryant campaigned successfully
> to repeal a Dade County (FL) ordinance prohibiting anti-gay
> discrimination, she named her organization "Save Our Children," and
> warned that "a particularly deviant-minded [gay] teacher could
> sexually molest children" (Bryant, 1977, p. 114). [Bibliographic
> references are on a different web page]
>
> In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay
> people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates
> about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and
> scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's
> resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay
> activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this
> canard.
>
> The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual
> orientation is important because many child molesters don't really
> have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the
> capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men
> or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys,
> girls, or children of both sexes.
>
> Statistics and Conclusion:
>
> Freund et al. (1989). Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and erotic age
> preference. Journal of Sex Research, 26, 107-117.
> This article is discussed above in the "Other Approaches" section. As
> the FRC concedes, it contradicts their argument. The abstract
> summarizes the authors' conclusion: "Findings indicate that homosexual
> males who preferred mature partners responded no more to male children
> than heterosexual males who preferred mature partners responded to
> female children."
>
> Silverthorne & Quinsey. (2000). Sexual partner age preferences of
> homosexual and heterosexual men and women. Archives of Sexual
> Behavior, 29, 67-76.
> The FRC cites this study to challenge the Freund et al. data (see the
> previous paper above). However, the methodologies were quite
> different. Freund and his colleagues used a sample that included sex
> offenders and they assessed sexual arousal with a physiological
> measure similar to that described below for the 1988 Marshall et al.
> study. Silverthorne and Quinsey used a sample of community volunteers
> who were asked to view pictures of human faces and use a 7-point scale
> to rate their sexual attractiveness. The apparent ages of the people
> portrayed in the pictures was originally estimated by Dr. Silverthorne
> to range from 15 to 50. However, a group of independent raters
> perceived the male faces to range in age from 18 to 58, and the female
> faces to range from 19 to 60.
>
> The article doesn't report the data in great detail (e.g., average
> ratings are depicted only in a graphic; the actual numbers aren't
> reported) and the authors provide contradictory information about the
> rating scale (they describe it as a 7-point scale but also say it
> ranged from 0 to 7, which constitutes an 8-point scale). In either
> case, it appears that none of the pictures was rated as "very sexually
> attractive" (a rating of 7). Rather, the highest average ratings were
> approximately 5.
>
> On average, gay men rated the 18-year old male faces the most
> attractive (average rating = about 5), with attractiveness ratings
> declining steadily for older faces. They rated the 58-year old male
> faces 2, on average. By contrast, heterosexual men rated the 25-year
> old female faces the most attractive (about 5), with the 18- and
> 28-year old female faces rated lower (between 2 and 3) and the 60-year
> old female faces rated the least attractive (about 1).
>
> A serious problem with this study is that the researchers didn't
> control for the possibility that some of the faces pictured in the
> photos might simply have been more or less physically attractive than
> the others, independent of their age or gender. The researchers
> explicitly acknowledged this shortcoming, speculating that the women's
> faces in the 25-year old group might have been more attractive than
> women's faces in the other age groups. But they didn't address the
> possibility that the attractiveness of the male and female faces may
> not have been comparable.
>
> This issue could have been addressed in various ways. For example,
> prior to collecting data, the researchers could have started with a
> large number of photographs and asked a group of independent raters to
> evaluate the general physical attractiveness of the face in each
> photo; these ratings could have been used to select photos for the
> experiment that were equivalent in attractiveness. Getting independent
> ratings of experimental stimuli in this way is a common procedure in
> social psychological research.
>
> Thus, even if one accepts the questionable assumption that this study
> is relevant, it doesn't support the FRC's contention that gay men are
> more likely than heterosexual men to be child molesters for several
> reasons:
>
> the researchers failed to control for the varying attractiveness of
> the different photos;
> all of the faces portrayed in the photos were perceived to be at least 18; and
> the study merely assessed judgments of sexual attractiveness rather
> than the research participants' sexual arousal.
>
> Blanchard et al. (2000). Fraternal birth order and sexual orientation
> in pedophiles. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 29, 463-478.
> This study categorized convicted sex offenders according to whether
> they molested or reported sexual attraction to boys only, girls only,
> or both boys and girls. These groups were labeled, respectively,
> homosexual pedophiles, heterosexual pedophiles, and bisexual
> pedophiles. This classification referred to their attractions to
> children. Adult sexual orientation (or even whether the men had an
> adult sexual orientation) wasn't assessed.
>
> Elliott et al. (1995). Child sexual abuse prevention: What offenders
> tell us. Child Abuse & Neglect, 19, 579-594.
> In this study, child sex offenders were interviewed. Their sexual
> orientation (gay, heterosexual, bisexual) wasn't assessed. The authors
> drew from their findings to suggest strategies for how parents and
> children can prevent sexual victimization. It is noteworthy that none
> of those strategies involved avoiding gay men.
>
> Jenny et al. (1994). Are children at risk for sexual abuse by
> homosexuals? Pediatrics, 94, 41-44.
> This study, described above in the section on "Other Approaches,"
> contradicts the FRC's argument. The FRC faults the study because the
> researchers didn't directly interview perpetrators but instead relied
> on the victims' medical charts for information about the offender's
> sexual orientation. However, other studies cited favorably by the FRC
> (and summarized in this section) similarly relied on chart data
> (Erickson et al., 1988) or did not directly assess the sexual
> orientation of perpetrators (Blanchard et al. 2000; Elliott et al.
> 1995; Marshall et al., 1988). Thus, the FRC apparently considers this
> method a weakness only when it leads to results they dislike.
>
> Marshall et al. (1988). Sexual offenders against male children: Sexual
> preference. Behaviour Research and Therapy, 26, 383-391.
> In this study, the researchers compared 21 men who had sexually
> molested a male under 16 years (and at least 5 years younger than
> themselves) to 18 unemployed men who were not known to have molested a
> child. Over a series of sessions, each man watched color slides of
> nude males and females of various ages and listened to audiotaped
> descriptions of both coercive and consensual sexual interactions
> between a man and a boy. During the sessions, each man sat in a
> private booth, where he was instructed to lower his trousers and
> underwear and attach a rubber tube to his penis. The tube detected any
> changes in penis circumference, with increases interpreted as
> indicating sexual arousal.
>
> The FRC cites this study as showing that "a homosexual and a
> heterosexual subgroup can be delineated among these offenders." This
> is true but hardly relevant to their claims.
>
> The researchers categorized 7 offenders who were more aroused overall
> by the male nudes than the female nudes as the homosexual subgroup.
> They categorized 14 offenders who were more aroused overall by the
> female nudes as the heterosexual subgroup. The offenders were not
> asked their sexual orientation (gay, straight, bisexual) and the paper
> does not report any information about the nature of the offenders'
> adult sexual relationships, or even if they had any such
> relationships.
>
> Bickley & Beech. (2001). Classifying child abusers: Its relevance to
> theory and clinical practice. International Journal Of Offender
> Therapy And Comparative Criminology, 45, 51-69.
> This is a literature review and theoretical paper that discusses the
> strengths and weaknesses of various systems for classifying child
> molesters. In citing this study, the FRC says it:
>
> refers to homosexual pedophiles as a "distinct group." The victims of
> homosexual pedophiles "were more likely to be strangers, that they
> were more likely to have engaged in paraphiliac behavior separate from
> that involved in the offence, and that they were more likely to have
> past convictions for sexual offences.... Other studies [showed a]
> greater risk of reoffending than those who had offended against girls"
> and that the "recidivism rate for male-victim offenders is
> approximately twice that ...
>
> read more »
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