Monday, January 3, 2011

Re: From Vice President Biden: We want to say thank you, Tommy

There are more hetero pedophiles than homo pedophiles because there
are more heterosexuals than homosexuals.

A LOT more!

Pedophilia isn't about sexual identity, regardless of the assholes at
NAMBLA

On Jan 1, 9:29 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tom?
>
> Did you read the article that you sent?
>
> One of your studies concluded that homosexuals were more likely going to be
> sexual predators or child molesters than heterosexuals, and several of the
> studies found that homosexuals were about as likely to be child molestors as
> their heterosexual counterparts.
>
> Where and how did you come to the conclusion,  and I quote:  "please know
> that most pedophiles are heterosexual" ?
>
> This is the reason that you are a Moonbat.  You didn't even read your own
> article!!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What kind of statistics?
> > You mean about most pedophiles being Heterosexual?
> > I have done that already here. Please go and search your group
> > archives, forgetful Lil' Keithie Keith.
>
> > Your ignorance and hateful homophobia are showing again Keith. Here is
> > your homework assignment.
> > Please Go here and read this again in it's entirety and then write a
> > report for us.
>
> >http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
>
> > A snippet:
>
> > Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as
> > representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For
> > example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian
> > babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often
> > lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women.
> > In a similar fashion, gay people have often been portrayed as a threat
> > to children. Back in 1977, when Anita Bryant campaigned successfully
> > to repeal a Dade County (FL) ordinance prohibiting anti-gay
> > discrimination, she named her organization "Save Our Children," and
> > warned that "a particularly deviant-minded [gay] teacher could
> > sexually molest children" (Bryant, 1977, p. 114). [Bibliographic
> > references are on a different web page]
>
> > In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay
> > people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates
> > about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and
> > scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's
> > resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay
> > activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this
> > canard.
>
> > The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual
> > orientation is important because many child molesters don't really
> > have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the
> > capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men
> > or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys,
> > girls, or children of both sexes.
>
> > Statistics and Conclusion:
>
> > Freund et al. (1989). Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and erotic age
> > preference. Journal of Sex Research, 26, 107-117.
> > This article is discussed above in the "Other Approaches" section. As
> > the FRC concedes, it contradicts their argument. The abstract
> > summarizes the authors' conclusion: "Findings indicate that homosexual
> > males who preferred mature partners responded no more to male children
> > than heterosexual males who preferred mature partners responded to
> > female children."
>
> > Silverthorne & Quinsey. (2000). Sexual partner age preferences of
> > homosexual and heterosexual men and women. Archives of Sexual
> > Behavior, 29, 67-76.
> > The FRC cites this study to challenge the Freund et al. data (see the
> > previous paper above). However, the methodologies were quite
> > different. Freund and his colleagues used a sample that included sex
> > offenders and they assessed sexual arousal with a physiological
> > measure similar to that described below for the 1988 Marshall et al.
> > study. Silverthorne and Quinsey used a sample of community volunteers
> > who were asked to view pictures of human faces and use a 7-point scale
> > to rate their sexual attractiveness. The apparent ages of the people
> > portrayed in the pictures was originally estimated by Dr. Silverthorne
> > to range from 15 to 50. However, a group of independent raters
> > perceived the male faces to range in age from 18 to 58, and the female
> > faces to range from 19 to 60.
>
> > The article doesn't report the data in great detail (e.g., average
> > ratings are depicted only in a graphic; the actual numbers aren't
> > reported) and the authors provide contradictory information about the
> > rating scale (they describe it as a 7-point scale but also say it
> > ranged from 0 to 7, which constitutes an 8-point scale). In either
> > case, it appears that none of the pictures was rated as "very sexually
> > attractive" (a rating of 7). Rather, the highest average ratings were
> > approximately 5.
>
> > On average, gay men rated the 18-year old male faces the most
> > attractive (average rating = about 5), with attractiveness ratings
> > declining steadily for older faces. They rated the 58-year old male
> > faces 2, on average. By contrast, heterosexual men rated the 25-year
> > old female faces the most attractive (about 5), with the 18- and
> > 28-year old female faces rated lower (between 2 and 3) and the 60-year
> > old female faces rated the least attractive (about 1).
>
> > A serious problem with this study is that the researchers didn't
> > control for the possibility that some of the faces pictured in the
> > photos might simply have been more or less physically attractive than
> > the others, independent of their age or gender. The researchers
> > explicitly acknowledged this shortcoming, speculating that the women's
> > faces in the 25-year old group might have been more attractive than
> > women's faces in the other age groups. But they didn't address the
> > possibility that the attractiveness of the male and female faces may
> > not have been comparable.
>
> > This issue could have been addressed in various ways. For example,
> > prior to collecting data, the researchers could have started with a
> > large number of photographs and asked a group of independent raters to
> > evaluate the general physical attractiveness of the face in each
> > photo; these ratings could have been used to select photos for the
> > experiment that were equivalent in attractiveness. Getting independent
> > ratings of experimental stimuli in this way is a common procedure in
> > social psychological research.
>
> > Thus, even if one accepts the questionable assumption that this study
> > is relevant, it doesn't support the FRC's contention that gay men are
> > more likely than heterosexual men to be child molesters for several
> > reasons:
>
> > the researchers failed to control for the varying attractiveness of
> > the different photos;
> > all of the faces portrayed in the photos were perceived to be at least 18;
> > and
> > the study merely assessed judgments of sexual attractiveness rather
> > than the research participants' sexual arousal.
>
> > Blanchard et al. (2000). Fraternal birth order and sexual orientation
> > in pedophiles. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 29, 463-478.
> > This study categorized convicted sex offenders according to whether
> > they molested or reported sexual attraction to boys only, girls only,
> > or both boys and girls. These groups were labeled, respectively,
> > homosexual pedophiles, heterosexual pedophiles, and bisexual
> > pedophiles. This classification referred to their attractions to
> > children. Adult sexual orientation (or even whether the men had an
> > adult sexual orientation) wasn't assessed.
>
> > Elliott et al. (1995). Child sexual abuse prevention: What offenders
> > tell us. Child Abuse & Neglect, 19, 579-594.
> > In this study, child sex offenders were interviewed. Their sexual
> > orientation (gay, heterosexual, bisexual) wasn't assessed. The authors
> > drew from their findings to suggest strategies for how parents and
> > children can prevent sexual victimization. It is noteworthy that none
> > of those strategies involved avoiding gay men.
>
> > Jenny et al. (1994). Are children at risk for sexual abuse by
> > homosexuals? Pediatrics, 94, 41-44.
> > This study, described above in the section on "Other Approaches,"
> > contradicts the FRC's argument. The FRC faults the study because the
> > researchers didn't directly interview perpetrators but instead relied
> > on the victims' medical charts for information about the offender's
> > sexual orientation. However, other studies cited favorably by the FRC
> > (and summarized in this section) similarly relied on chart data
> > (Erickson et al., 1988) or did not directly assess the sexual
> > orientation of perpetrators (Blanchard et al. 2000; Elliott et al.
> > 1995; Marshall et al., 1988). Thus, the FRC apparently considers this
> > method a weakness only when it leads to results they dislike.
>
> > Marshall et al. (1988). Sexual offenders against male children: Sexual
> > preference. Behaviour Research and Therapy, 26, 383-391.
> > In this study, the researchers compared 21 men who had sexually
> > molested a male under 16 years (and at least 5 years younger than
> > themselves) to 18 unemployed men who were not known to have molested a
> > child. Over a series of sessions, each man watched color slides of
> > nude males and females of various ages and listened to audiotaped
> > descriptions of both coercive and consensual sexual interactions
> > between a man and a boy. During the sessions, each man sat in a
> > private booth, where he was instructed to lower his trousers and
> > underwear and attach a rubber tube to his penis. The tube detected any
> > changes in penis circumference, with increases interpreted as
> > indicating sexual arousal.
>
> > The FRC cites this study as showing that "a homosexual and a
> > heterosexual subgroup can be delineated among these offenders." This
> > is true but hardly relevant to their claims.
>
> > The researchers categorized 7 offenders who were more aroused overall
> > by the male nudes than the female nudes as the homosexual subgroup.
> > They categorized 14 offenders who were more aroused overall by the
> > female nudes as the heterosexual subgroup. The offenders were not
> > asked their sexual orientation (gay, straight, bisexual) and the paper
>
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