Keith is in his hotel bar right now getting another drink and a Burger. He asked me to send you this......
Stop the hate, lies and smear Tom!
It's unbecoming, and breaks that wholesome, clean, Christian oriented image that you seem to be striving for!!
KeithInDC
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
No, Joe Lieberman and other Indies are not Democrats, and cannot be
counted as one.
Wrong again.
On 12/9/10, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,
>
> There I stand by all I said. There are 60 votes (you must include the two
> Ind. Senators and Joe Biden) for ANY good cause that the Dems want.
>
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Markie Markie Markie
>>
>> So you are saying that Dumbya's illegal undeclared war in Iraq was
>> imaginary and did not happen?
>> You are a pathetic denier.
>>
>> Your math is also off. 59 votes is not 60 votes, and the Un-American
>> Republicans are abusing the 60 vote cloture rule on every bill to make
>> The President fail, their top agenda.
>>
>> Wrong again, dearie.
>>
>> On 12/9/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,
>> >
>> > War has not been declared since WWll, The first responders on 9/11 had
>> > insurance coverage, and Obama (your boy) is fighting to KEEP DADT in
>> > the courts.
>> >
>> > Just how are ANY of these items a "Republican" problem when the Dems
>> > have 60 senate votes for any GOOD cause and three simply don't
>> > vote ??? Do you really think they didn't know the result BEFORE the
>> > vote ??
>> >
>> > On Dec 9, 7:28 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Grand Obstructionist Republicans Block DADT Repeal, Vote No to helping
>> >> 9/11 Responders, Vote to Extend Bush Tax Cuts to the Wealthy, and Vote
>> >> No to Funding the Troops in a Time of War Putting Troops in Danger.
>> >> This is More Sickening and Disgusting Behavior From the GOP. Vote them
>> >> ALL out of office in 2012.
>> >>
>> >> Senate vote kills repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'
>> >>
>> >> The Senate on Thursday killed repeal of the "don't ask, don't tell"
>> >> ban on openly gay members of the military, delivering a blow to
>> >> President Obama one week after a Pentagon study urged an end to the
>> >> Clinton-era ban.
>> >>
>> >> Although last-ditch efforts were underway to try another avenue to
>> >> repeal the ban before Congress adjourns for the year, the procedural
>> >> vote likely ends for the foreseeable future the possibility that the
>> >> 17-year-old ban can be repealed legislatively, leaving the matter to
>> >> the courts.
>> >>
>> >> A lawsuit by the Log Cabin Republicans, a gay conservative group, that
>> >> challenges the ban is before the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals
>> >> in San Francisco, which is expected to issue a ruling sometime next
>> >> summer.
>> >>
>> >> The 57-40 vote to move ahead on the defense authorization bill, which
>> >> contained the repeal, fell three votes short of the 60 needed to
>> >> overcome a Republican filibuster.
>> >>
>> >> Obama issued a statement saying, "As commander in chief, I have
>> >> pledged to repeal this discriminatory law." He urged continued efforts
>> >> to repeal the law this year.
>> >>
>> >> Sens. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., said they
>> >> would try to move a stand-alone bill, but it faces the same procedural
>> >> roadblocks that killed the much more popular defense bill. Sen. John
>> >> McCain, R-Ariz., has been blocking the defense bill since spring
>> >> because it would repeal the ban on gays, lesbians and bisexuals
>> >> serving openly in the military.
>> >>
>> >> The Human Rights Campaign, a pro-gay lobbying group, demanded that
>> >> Obama act unilaterally to cease defense of the ban in court, and halt
>> >> discharges of gay and lesbian troops under an emergency "stop-loss"
>> >> military order put in place by the George W. Bush administration,
>> >> which prevents troop discharges in case of military need.
>> >>
>> >> The Department of Justice has been defending the ban in court as a
>> >> matter of U.S. law. But Human Rights Campaign spokesperson Fred Sainz,
>> >> said decisions about which laws to defend are "a subjective judgment
>> >> made by every administration. They are not under an obligation to
>> >> defend every law and have not."
>> >>
>> >> Senate majority leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., called for a vote on the
>> >> repeal bill knowing it would fail. He said Republicans kept changing
>> >> their demands on the parameters of the debate of the defense bill and
>> >> concluded they would continue blocking the bill.
>> >>
>> >> Repeal supporters believed they had enough Republican votes to pass
>> >> repeal of the gay ban if the broader defense bill had reached a floor
>> >> debate.
>> >>
>> >> Last week, the Pentagon weighed in strongly in favor of repeal,
>> >> issuing the results of an exhaustive, 10-month study, which included
>> >> surveys of active-duty troops and focus groups. The study found that
>> >> lifting the ban would not harm military effectiveness, unit cohesion
>> >> or other measures of military prowess.
>> >>
>> >> Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of
>> >> the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified to Congress last week urging
>> >> repeal and warning that if Congress does not act, the courts will.
>> >>
>> >> McCain, who once said he would go along with the results of the study,
>> >> called it flawed and cited continued resistance by combat troops in
>> >> the Army and Marines, as well as special operations forces, to serving
>> >> with gay troops.
>> >>
>> >> Obama, who many times promised gay groups that repeal would happen on
>> >> his watch, had personally phoned GOP Senators urging repeal. Collins
>> >> and Lieberman had been trying to broker an agreement with Reid on how
>> >> much time and how many amendments would be allowed for debate on the
>> >> defense bill.
>> >>
>> >> Collins rushed to the Senate floor just as Reid finished announcing
>> >> that he would call up the bill, accusing him of sabotaging repeal.
>> >>
>> >> "There was such a clear path for us to be able to get this bill done
>> >> and I am perplexed and frustrated that this important bill is going to
>> >> become a victim of politics," Collins said. "Sen. Lieberman and I have
>> >> been bargaining in good faith with the majority leader."
>> >>
>> >> Collins said she thought she had an agreement to allow a debate with
>> >> 10 GOP amendments and five Democratic amendments.
>> >>
>> >> A senior Democratic aide said Reid had given Collins plenty of ground
>> >> but that she had rejected the offer of 15 amendments. The Senate was
>> >> running out of time and Collins was offering no clear path around
>> >> continuing GOP obstruction, the aide said, adding that Reid had
>> >> offered an open amendment process on the defense bill earlier in the
>> >> year but Collins refused then to go along.
>> >>
>> >> Reid was backed by Senate Armed Services Committee chair Carl Levin,
>> >> D-Mich., who said the clock had run out.
>> >>
>> >> The vote kills for this session of Congress the entire defense bill -
>> >> the first time that has happened in 48 years. It also contained a pay
>> >> increase for the military and many other components.
>> >>
>> >> Republicans had insisted that their deal with Obama on tax cuts be
>> >> resolved before proceeding to any other business, including the
>> >> defense bill.
>> >>
>> >> Repeal of the ban had passed the House earlier this year, but
>> >> Republican leaders who will assume control of the House in January
>> >> have said they have no intention of bringing up repeal when they take
>> >> control for the next two years. The next chance Democrats have to
>> >> control the House is in the 2012 elections.
>> >>
>> >> Gay-rights groups erupted in outrage over the vote, but Aubrey Sarvis,
>> >> executive director of the Service Members Legal Defense Network, held
>> >> out hope that the effort was not dead.
>> >>
>> >> Christopher Neff, deputy executive director of the Palm Center, a
>> >> pro-gay think tank at UC Santa Barbara, said leaders must consider
>> >> "every available legislative, executive and judicial option." The U.S.
>> >> ban on military service by homosexuals puts the nation alone in the
>> >> West, and in the company of only Bulgaria, Jordan, Poland, Turkey and
>> >> the United Arab Emirates.
>> >>
>> >> Read
>> >> more:
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/09/MN5V1GOF7...
>> >>
>> >> Read
>> >> more:
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/09/MN5V1GOF7...
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> Have a great day,
>> >> Tommy
>> >
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>> Tommy
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