Thursday, November 18, 2010

Re: Rep. Charles Rangel Faces Sanctions After Ethics Convictions - ABC News

Then you need to decide what you consider social
security. People have paid for that for 40 years or so to the point
that it really is not a government benefit but insurance annuities.
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SS has NEVER been a benefit. Its a money grab where it is guaranteed
you will never get back what you put in - and its still losing money!
Jesus H., you got a guaranteed positive cash cow, and its going
bankrupt. Only the government can figure out how to do that. Its
friggin amazing!

On Nov 18, 1:02 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> The people you are penalizing are the ones who pay market rents to
> landlords who then pay the same taxes as you pay.  Indirectly those
> renters are paying just as you are but you are taking away their
> representation.  Not good.  If you do something about penalizing those
> who use government assistance just to pay rent and exist, then maybe you
> have a point.   Then you need to decide what you consider social
> security.  People have paid for that for 40 years or so to the point
> that it really is not a government benefit but insurance annuities.  
> How do you deal with these issues.
>
> On 11/18/2010 12:49 PM, Keith In Tampa wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey Greg,
> > No, they are not, but "DaBabyMama"  who has five kids and is a
> > continuous breeder solely for the purpose of generating revenue count
> > the same as my vote.  This is the predominant make-up of the
> > Gerrymandered Congressional District where Charlie Rangel depends upon
> > for his support.
> > Even using your example, a college student who is dependent upon Pell
> > Grants and generates nothing in the way of tax dollar revenue; his
> > vote counts the same as mine.
> > I just think that it is an interesting concept of voting, and why
> > votes should count the same.  Maybe the college student should deserve
> > a vote, but then, why shouldn't my vote be counted a bit more?  Why
> > not give "DaBabyMama"  a single vote, the college kid two votes, and
> > give taxpaying citizens who also pay property taxes ten votes?
> > Why is there such a push by these far left extremist groups, to
> > register voters, and it has been well documented that they have
> > registered illegal aliens who should not have a vote, as well as
> > fictional individuals, or folks like DaBabyMama  who have registered
> > numerous times under fictitious addresses?
> > Just some general thoughts is all.....
>
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM, GregfromBoston
> > <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com <mailto:greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> >     Why should my vote, as a taxpayer, be
> >     of the same value as someone who is totally dependent upon federal or
> >     state
> >     subsistence?
> >     ---------------------------
>
> >     Well ya didn't say that.  Thats more interesting, but still a rather
> >     major problem.
>
> >     People who live in apartments and students (at least the males of whom
> >     are  REQUIRED to register for selective service) are not, "totally
> >     dependent upon federal or state subsistence"
>
> >     On Nov 18, 12:16 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:keithinta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     > I agree that it will never happen, and I am not exactly serious
> >     when I even
> >     > suggest such a notion.
>
> >     > I only throw the thought out there.   Why should my vote, as a
> >     taxpayer, be
> >     > of the same value as someone who is totally dependent upon
> >     federal or state
> >     > subsistence?
>
> >     > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:45 AM, GregfromBoston
> >     <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com <mailto:greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>>wrote:
>
> >     > > I can't go along with that man.  You can't vote because you
> >     live in an
> >     > > apartment or are a full time student?
>
> >     > > Not a chance in hell, ever.
>
> >     > > On Nov 18, 11:23 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:keithinta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     > > > This is what happens, when we continue to allow for
> >     Gerrymandered
> >     > > > districts.
>
> >     > > > This is but one more reason to reconsider allowing only
> >     taxpaying
> >     > > > individuals who are property owners the right to vote.
>
> >     > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:00 AM, GregfromBoston
> >     <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com <mailto:greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>
> >     > > >wrote:
>
> >     > > > > Agreed.  But censure trumps reprimand, and reprimand trumps,
> >     > > > > "deploring".
>
> >     > > > > What is less than meaningless?
>
> >     > > > > We're about to find out.
>
> >     > > > > Censure didn't effect Barny Frank or Gerry Studds an inch
> >     (ooh, bad
> >     > > > > pun), but hey, this is Massachusetts.
>
> >     > > > > On Nov 18, 10:54 am, MJ <micha...@america.net
> >     <mailto:micha...@america.net>> wrote:
> >     > > > > > Censure is largely meaningless -- the type of chiding
> >     > > > > > he will likely receive.
>
> >     > > > > > At 09:33 AM 11/18/2010, you wrote:
>
> >     > > > > > >Barney Frank was censured for a single violation
> >     (granted, it was a
> >     > > > > > >doozy).  Shouldn't 11 warrant a reprimand?
>
> >     > > > > > >On Nov 18, 8:41 am, MJ <micha...@america.net
> >     <mailto:micha...@america.net>> wrote:
> >     > > > > > > > He will likely escape much of anything (do not want
> >     additional
> >     > > > > > > > precedents).  He will, however, be the Republican
> >     whipping boy
> >     > > for at
> >     > > > > > > > least the next two years.  Gots to emphasize
> >     something as a
> >     > > > > difference.
>
> >     > > > > > > > Regard$,
> >     > > > > > > > --MJ
>
> >     > > > > > > > ... where corruption and public crimes are not
> >     carefully opposed,
> >     > > > > > > > and severely punished, neither liberty nor security
> >     can possibly
> >     > > > > > > > subsist. -- Cato's Letters (1721)
>
> >     > > > > > > > At 08:32 AM 11/18/2010, you wrote:
>
> >     > > > > > > > >Reprimand is doubtful,  Public statement "deploring
> >     his conduct"
> >     > > is
> >     > > > > > > > >the likely "penalty"
>
> >     > > > > > > > >On Nov 18, 7:41 am, Cold Water
> >     <coldwater...@gmail.com <mailto:coldwater...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     > > > > > > > > > Charlie learns his fate today.  Bela Pelosi has
> >     done such a
> >     > > > > > > > > wonderful job of "draining the swamp".
>
> >     > > > > > > > > > Rangel will be reprimanded and then go on
> >     "business as
> >     > > usual".
> >     > > > >  Sad.
>
> >     >http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rep-charles-rangel-faces-sanctions-eth.
> >     > > ..
>
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