Re: Rep. Charles Rangel Faces Sanctions After Ethics Convictions - ABC News

The people you are penalizing are the ones who pay market rents to landlords who then pay the same taxes as you pay.  Indirectly those renters are paying just as you are but you are taking away their representation.  Not good.  If you do something about penalizing those who use government assistance just to pay rent and exist, then maybe you have a point.   Then you need to decide what you consider social security.  People have paid for that for 40 years or so to the point that it really is not a government benefit but insurance annuities.   How do you deal with these issues.

On 11/18/2010 12:49 PM, Keith In Tampa wrote:

Hey Greg,

 

No, they are not, but "DaBabyMama"  who has five kids and is a continuous breeder solely for the purpose of generating revenue count the same as my vote.  This is the predominant make-up of the Gerrymandered Congressional District where Charlie Rangel depends upon for his support.

 

Even using your example, a college student who is dependent upon Pell Grants and generates nothing in the way of tax dollar revenue; his vote counts the same as mine. 

 

I just think that it is an interesting concept of voting, and why votes should count the same.  Maybe the college student should deserve a vote, but then, why shouldn't my vote be counted a bit more?  Why not give "DaBabyMama"  a single vote, the college kid two votes, and give taxpaying citizens who also pay property taxes ten votes?   

 

Why is there such a push by these far left extremist groups, to register voters, and it has been well documented that they have registered illegal aliens who should not have a vote, as well as fictional individuals, or folks like DaBabyMama  who have registered numerous times under fictitious addresses?

 

Just some general thoughts is all.....

 

 

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM, GregfromBoston <greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:

Why should my vote, as a taxpayer, be
of the same value as someone who is totally dependent upon federal or
state
subsistence?

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Well ya didn't say that.  Thats more interesting, but still a rather
major problem.

People who live in apartments and students (at least the males of whom
are  REQUIRED to register for selective service) are not, "totally

dependent upon federal or state subsistence"

On Nov 18, 12:16 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree that it will never happen, and I am not exactly serious when I even
> suggest such a notion.
>
> I only throw the thought out there.   Why should my vote, as a taxpayer, be
> of the same value as someone who is totally dependent upon federal or state
> subsistence?
>

> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:45 AM, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
>
> > I can't go along with that man.  You can't vote because you live in an
> > apartment or are a full time student?
>
> > Not a chance in hell, ever.
>
> > On Nov 18, 11:23 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > This is what happens, when we continue to allow for Gerrymandered
> > > districts.
>
> > > This is but one more reason to reconsider allowing only taxpaying
> > > individuals who are property owners the right to vote.
>
> > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:00 AM, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > Agreed.  But censure trumps reprimand, and reprimand trumps,
> > > > "deploring".
>
> > > > What is less than meaningless?
>
> > > > We're about to find out.
>
> > > > Censure didn't effect Barny Frank or Gerry Studds an inch (ooh, bad
> > > > pun), but hey, this is Massachusetts.
>
> > > > On Nov 18, 10:54 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > Censure is largely meaningless -- the type of chiding
> > > > > he will likely receive.
>
> > > > > At 09:33 AM 11/18/2010, you wrote:
>
> > > > > >Barney Frank was censured for a single violation (granted, it was a
> > > > > >doozy).  Shouldn't 11 warrant a reprimand?
>
> > > > > >On Nov 18, 8:41 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > He will likely escape much of anything (do not want additional
> > > > > > > precedents).  He will, however, be the Republican whipping boy
> > for at
> > > > > > > least the next two years.  Gots to emphasize something as a
> > > > difference.
>
> > > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > > --MJ
>
> > > > > > > ... where corruption and public crimes are not carefully opposed,
> > > > > > > and severely punished, neither liberty nor security can possibly
> > > > > > > subsist. -- Cato's Letters (1721)
>
> > > > > > > At 08:32 AM 11/18/2010, you wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >Reprimand is doubtful,  Public statement "deploring his conduct"
> > is
> > > > > > > >the likely "penalty"
>
> > > > > > > >On Nov 18, 7:41 am, Cold Water <coldwater...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Charlie learns his fate today.  Bela Pelosi has done such a
> > > > > > > > wonderful job of "draining the swamp".
>
> > > > > > > > > Rangel will be reprimanded and then go on "business as
> > usual".
> > > >  Sad.
>
> > > >http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rep-charles-rangel-faces-sanctions-eth.
> > ..
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