Monday, October 11, 2010

Re: Israel approves loyalty oath

I don't know of any Islamic State that has a pledge of allegiance, off-
hand,... but I'm willing to stand corrected... if you do... Annointed
One....
I'm not trying to be a stickler.... many Islamic States are far from
being Democratic Republics, that foes without saying, It is doubtful
that the Islamic States even aspire to Democratic Republic standing.
Nevertheless, it is clear that Israel does claim to be a Democratic
Republic and holds itself apart from it's regional neighbors because
of it.....a bit of a setback, at the least, if that's truly the case.

On Oct 10, 1:32 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gee, Lets see........ How many of the constitutionally "Islamic
> States" require the same of all immigrants...... lets see....
> OH!!!!!  SHIT !!!!!    That would be ALL of them.
>
> Much ado about NOTHING. Even the US requires an oath to the
> constitution as written.... requires all immigrants to be officially
> SECULAR yet allowing free practice in PRIVATE only.
>
> On Oct 10, 8:47 am, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I told you on this board about my "Rush Limbaugh Pledge of
> > Allegiance", right?
>
> > I Pledge allegiance to the Star of David of the Zionist State of
> > Israel and to the Racist ologarchy for which it stands, one Kigdom
> > under the ineffable Yahweh, exclusive, with criminal license and
> > prejudgement in favor just of Jews
>
> > I bet you all thought I was overstating the issue....think again....
> > here's what Aljazeera (HAR) says on this new development.
> > nominal9
>
> >http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/10/2010101013028364...
>
> > The Israeli cabinet on Sunday approved a bill requiring new immigrants
> > to pledge loyalty to the "Jewish and democratic" state.
>
> > The language has triggered charges of racism from Arab politicians who
> > see it as undermining the rights of the country's Arab minority.
>
> > It has also raised tensions with Palestinians at a time when peace
> > talks are deadlocked over Israel's refusal to extend a moratorium on
> > new building in West Bank Jewish settlements.
>
> > The bill is backed by Yisrael Beitenu, an ultra-nationalist party
> > whose leader, Avigdor Lieberman, has been a vocal critic of Israel's
> > settlement freeze.
>
> > Sunday's vote may be a way to soften Lieberman's opposition to
> > extending the slowdown, though officials have denied there is any
> > connection.
>
> > Cabinet divided
>
> > Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, expressed his support
> > for the proposal before the vote. "The State of Israel is the national
> > state of the Jewish people, and it is a democratic state for all its
> > citizenship," he said.
>
> > "There is no other democracy in the Middle East. There is no other
> > Jewish state in the world. Unfortunately, there are many today who
> > tried to blur not only the unique connection of the Jewish people to
> > its homeland, but also the connection of the Jewish people to its
> > state."
>
> > Although the Labour party is part of the ruling coalition in
> > Netanyahu's government, the Israeli left has voiced significant
> > opposition to the new citizenship bill.
>
> > "There is a whiff of fascism on the margins of Israeli society," Isaac
> > Herzog, the social affairs minister, who belongs to Labour, told army
> > radio on Sunday.
>
> > "There have been a tsunami of measures that limit rights ... I see it
> > in the halls of the Knesset [parliament], in the commissions and
> > departments responsible for legislation."
>
> > Dan Meridor, a Likud party member, said the law would exclude 1.5
> > million Palestinians who are citizens of Israel and will create a rift
> > between them and the state.
>
> > Palestinians critical
>
> > Ahmad Tibi, an Arab member of the Knesset, told Al Jazeera that the
> > bill is aimed at Palestinians - and not at Jewish newcomers to Israel
> > - since they already enter on Israel's Jewish Law of Return.
>
> > "Palestinians will have to say that this country is for Jews, and
> > Palestinians are only guests. If you are saying you are democratic,
> > you should treat citizens with equality," Tibi said.
>
> > He said that Israel was trying to impose this on the Palestinian
> > Authority as a pre-condition for peace talks.
>
> > "It is time to tell the Arab summit to ask Israel to have equal rights
> > for Palestinians," Tibi said.
>
> > "The addition to the citizenship law is entirely racist and
> > transparent," Mohammed Barak, an Arab legislator, said.
>
> > "Israel's law books have long been a guide for some of the most
> > discriminatory and racist regimes in the world and in history."
>
> > Talks deadlock
>
> > Direct peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, led
> > by Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, are currently at an
> > impasse due to Israel's refusal to extend the 10-month freeze.
>
> > Recognition of Israel as a Jewish state is one of Netanyahu's
> > principal demands in any eventual peace deal with the Palestinians.
>
> > Palestinians have repeatedly rejected this as it would amount to an
> > effective renunciation of the right of return for Palestinian
> > refugees.
>
> > Lieberman's Yisrael Beitenu campaigned during last year's election for
> > a tougher version of the pledge, which would apply to Arabs born in
> > Israel and include a promise to serve in the military or perform other
> > national service.
>
> > Yisrael Beitenu is the second-largest member of the governing
> > coalition after Netanyahu's Likud party.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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