Saturday, September 4, 2010

Re: Rachel Maddow remarks on President Obama's kind words for Bush and avoidance of criticism of the failed architects of the Iraq War.

I guess no on else has anything to add to this thread. I'm surprised
because this is such a busy place with a multitude of opinions.

On Sep 3, 7:59 am, WarpTen <reallybo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Morning!
>
> The opening line definitely carries with it assumption and thinly
> veiled bias, the focus being on 'criticism/failed' , those conclusions
> are highly subjective.
>
> What I'm seeing here is that regardless ofMaddow'srant I don't think
> it would serve Obama well to spend a large percentage of his speech
> time denigrating the Bush administration's debacles in Iraq.  That
> would define he and his administration in a negative way and leave the
> public standing in awe going "Wuh?".
>
> What else I'm seeing isMaddowhijacking the topic and turning it into
> a platform for her own agenda which happens to be denigrating the Bush
> administration's debacles in Iraq.  It seems to push her back in time
> with the redundancy.  Maybe someone should call her and let her know
> it's 2010 getting close to 2011.
>
> News media is news media and all have bias based upon administrative
> personal preferences.   Political news organizations that stand firm
> on opposing political parties don't spend much time praising the
> opposition.  The idea is to sway the viewers toward their political
> persuasions as the ultimate goal is to get the viewers, the voting
> public, to influence elections.
>
> If the media can convince people that the Democrats are crap the
> people will vote Republican and if the media can convince people that
> the Republicans are going to make them eat crap the people will vote
> Democratic.
>
> On Sep 3, 6:59 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Good Morning Warp Ten,
>
> > You bring up some valid points, and in my humble opinion, are right on the
> > mark.
>
> > Having said that, note that the initial message in this thread is captioned:
>
> > "RachelMaddowremarks on President Obama's kind words for Bush and
> > avoidance of criticism of the failed architects of the Iraq War."
>
> > The caption, in and of itself is political spin.  President Obama offered no
> > "kind words" toward former President Bush, as a matter of fact, President
> > Obama's speech several nights ago was at least condescending toward
> > President Bush, and at most a slap in the face, considering that it was the
> > Bush Administration's surge that seems to be the turning point in the war,
> > and considering that President Obama voted against funding such a surge, and
> > campaigned mightily against the Bush Administration's "surge policy".
>
> > This is not the best example of media bias,  because the media in this case
> > is NBC, which I don't believe can be considered as a reputable news
> > organization any longer.   There is clearly a left of center media bias in
> > most all news reporting, save FOX News these days.
>
> > On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:25 AM, WarpTen <reallybo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > There must be, in this day of technological achievement read your
> > > drivers license from the moon age, some shred of evidence to back up
> > > what you are all saying.  Providing some form of validity to a claim
> > > lays waste the slag from the rebuttals, ie; the unsupported
> > > rebuttals.
>
> > > Or is this equally all posters personal bias born from tons of other
> > > hearsay?
>
> > > It doesn't matter because the real dilemma is having to decipher the
> > > validity of opposing
> > > evidences.  Whose truth is the truth?
> > > This is due to subjective interpretation of the incidents; some say
> > > sin and others say so what.
>
> > > How about................
>
> > > All politicians are to some degree inept and in less technical terms,
> > > all BS, and maybe all the people in this room could runs things
> > > better.
>
> > > In all the years we have been listening to political rhetoric not much
> > > has changed, that is except the hands that stand at the helm and the
> > > excuses as to why the citizens, who pay these people lot's of money to
> > > take charge, are continually in a quagmire.  At every election they
> > > get up on the soap box and preach about how they are going to fix the
> > > problems the other guy made.
>
> > > It's too late to find fault that results in a rectified situation; at
> > > this point fault only becomes the fodder for heated debate without
> > > resolution, much of which we have here.  Politics is a shouting match
> > > and a mud slinging contest and on rare occasions some good shit
> > > happens.
>
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