Monday, June 28, 2010

Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]

It was not quite like that, now was it ?? It was indeed more like use of deadly force (several times, rocks) followed by legal reaction to same while at the same time trying to keep a prisoner subdued.. 



On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:39 PM, euwe <machgielis@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey you kids, get off my lawn <kid throws rocks> - POW! <kid dies>

Mark, if you think that's an appropriate use of force - you're gonna
go hungry at your next picnic, cuz you're missing a few sandwiches.

On Jun 27, 3:57 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Funny, That is not what the people watching and filming were saying... but
> you make a far better witness from a thousand miles away. Just why, do you
> think, there has been no FORMAL protest lodged by Mexico ???
>
> Oh, and please tell all those young Middle Eastern girls that kiss a boy or
> leave the house without daddy's permission that rocks are not a deadly
> weapon.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:10 AM, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A man who shoots a kid across the border with his hands in the air is
> > guilty of murder.
>
> > On Jun 27, 12:49 am, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Could you please fully explain the complete line of thought behind that
> > ??
>
> > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:33 PM, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > The border control guard is the perp.
>
> > > > On Jun 26, 11:20 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > In this case is not about the victim but about the perp.
>
> > > > > On 27 Juni, 06:13, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > shot a man, just to watch him die
> > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > in this case, a 14 year old kid.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 26, 10:09 pm, pain <m_lofqv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zgja26eNeY
>
> > > > > > > On 27 Juni, 05:02, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Get in the car, and drive my prisoners with me out of the area.
> > I
> > > > > > > > would not shoot at a kid throwing rocks.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 9:13 pm, Mustang <mustangsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Euwe,
> > > > > > > > > You didn't answer my question.  What would YOU have done if
> > > > criminals were
> > > > > > > > > throwing a barrage of rocks at YOU?
>
> > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > From: euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sat, June 26, 2010 8:46:44 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
>
> > > > > > > > > Absolutely - kids have gotten a free ride long enough - it's
> > time
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > start lowering the age of outrage - kill them in the womb!
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 12:27 am, Mustang <mustangsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Why not?  If a "most wanted juvenile smuggler" with a
> > record
> > > > starting at age
> > > > > > > > > 13
> > > > > > > > > > is throwing rocks from 30-40 feet away it could do a hell
> > of a
> > > > lot of damage.
> > > > > > > > > > They weren't wiffle rocks!   The kid, and others, was
> > > > determined to hurt the
> > > > > > > > > > Border Patrol Agents.  He had no respect for laws or life.
> > > >  Now, the choir boy
> > > > > > > > > > is dead.  He will smuggle no more.  He should have been at
> > home
> > > > studying.  His
> > > > > > > > > > parents are now paying the price for neglect and disrespect
> > for
> > > > America.  They
> > > > > > > > > > should have given him a "time out" after his first arrest.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I lost two sons to cancer.  I know the heartache.  The kid
> > was
> > > > wrong and paid
> > > > > > > > > > the highest of consequences for his own actions.  What did
> > you
> > > > expect the
> > > > > > > > > >agents
> > > > > > > > > > to do?  What would you do if criminals threw a barrage of
> > rocks
> > > > at you?  Say
> > > > > > > > > > "Please don't do that."?
>
> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > From: euwe <machgie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 4:28:49 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: well, looky here!]
>
> > > > > > > > > > Not while they are on Mexican soil.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 25, 9:22 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net
>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > [ Attached Message
> > > > > > > > > > >]From:claguerra...@aol.comTo:Rhomp2...@earthlink.netDate
> > :Fri,
> > > > 25 Jun 2010
> > > > > > > > > > >18:41:02 -0400 (EDT)Local:Fri, Jun 25 2010 5:41
> > > > pmSubject:well, looky here!
>
> > > > > > > > > > >  Teen Shot by Border Patrol Had  Smuggling Arrests  By
> > THE
> > > > ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Filed at 6:20 p.m. ET
> > > > > > > > > > > EL PASO, Texas (AP) -- Federal records show that a
> > > > 15-year-old Mexican  boy
> > > > > > > > > > >shot and killed by U.S. Border  Patrol agents was among El
> > > > Paso's most wanted
> > > > > > > > > > >juvenile smugglers.
> > > > > > > > > > > According to federal arrest records reviewed by The
> > > > Associated Press,
> > > > > > > > >  Sergio
> > > > > > > > > > >Adrian Hernandez Huereka had been arrested at least four
> > times
> > > >  since 2008
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >twice in the same week in February 2009.
> > > > > > > > > > > A Border Patrol agent shot and killed the teen on June 7
> > > > while trying to
> > > > > > > > > > > arrest illegal immigrants crossing the muddy bed of the
> > Rio
> > > > Grande.  Some
> > > > > > > > > > >witnesses said a group of people on the Mexican side were
> > > > throwing  rocks at
> > > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > >agents. Agents are permitted to use lethal force against
> >  rock
> > > > throwers.
>
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