Friday, February 24, 2012

Re: muslim assults athiest. muslim judge lets him walk.

Hey Bear,
 
I noted that in the AmericanAtheist Article of which you quoted; (and here's the link) :
 
 
The article mentions the video, and claims to share the link, but in fact, the link to the video is missing.  
 
Here's the video link:
 
 
Here is also another article covering the same court hearing:
 
 
Note that in the PennLive article, it states that the law enforcement officer was not present during the purported attack.
 
The web is now crawling with articles,  all based on the AmericanAtheists' article;  (and one other source);  but I question whether Judge "Mark Martin"  is in fact a Muslim.  Don't all Muslims have to take some kind of a funky Islamic name?
 
No question that Muslims cannot get away with hiding behind Sharia, or a State Court of U.S. Court judge trying to inflict Sharia on our Court system,  but in this case, I don't think that is what happened.  This Atheist was in fact attempting to agitate and cause a disturbance.  He was clearly an asshole.  
 
Prefacing my view of this with the knowledge that I was not there during the court proceeding, and knowing that the AmericanAtheist has clearly misrepresented the truth in their article,  I think the Judge probably ruled correctly. 

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Bear Bear <thatbearguy@gmail.com> wrote:
This case is just disgusting. Sharia law is slowly coming to the U.S.
At least in the U.S. a judge can be removed.

Be sure to listen to the videos in the links.

Bear

Muslim Attacks Atheist. Muslim Judge Dismisses Case, Blames Victim.


The Pennsylvania State Director of American Atheists, Inc., Mr. Ernest
Perce V., was assaulted by a Muslim while participating in a Halloween
parade. Along with a Zombie Pope, Ernest was costumed as Zombie
Muhammad. The assault was caught on video, the Muslim man admitted to
his crime and charges were filed in what should have been an
open-and-shut case. That's not what happened, though.

 The defendant is an immigrant and claims he did not know his actions
were illegal, or that it was legal in this country to represent
Muhammad in any form. To add insult to injury, he also testified that
his 9 year old son was present, and the man said he felt he needed to
show his young son that he was willing to fight for his Prophet.

The case went to trial, and as circumstances would dictate, Judge Mark
Martin is also a Muslim. What transpired next was surreal. The Judge
not only ruled in favor of the defendant, but called Mr. Perce a name
and told him that if he were in a Muslim country, he'd be put to
death. Judge Martin's comments included,

"Having had the benefit of having spent over 2 and a half years in
predominantly Muslim countries I think I know a little bit about the
faith of Islam. In fact I have a copy of the Koran here and I
challenge you sir to show me where it says in the Koran that Mohammad
arose and walked among the dead. I think you misinterpreted things.
Before you start mocking someone else's religion you may want to find
out a little bit more about it it makes you look like a dufus and Mr.
(Defendant) is correct. In many Arabic speaking countries something
like this is definitely against the law there. In their society in
fact it can be punishable by death and it frequently is in their
society.

Judge Martin then offered a lesson in Islam, stating,

"Islam is not just a religion, it's their culture, their culture. It's
their very essence their very being. They pray five times a day
towards Mecca to be a good Muslim, before you die you have to make a
pilgrimage to Mecca unless you are otherwise told you can not because
you are too ill too elderly, whatever but you must make the attempt.
Their greetings wa-laikum as-Salâm (is answered by voice) may god be
with you. Whenever, it's very common when speaking to each other it's
very common for them to say uh this will happen it's it they are so
immersed in it.

Judge Martin further complicates the issue by not only abrogating the
First Amendment, but completely misunderstanding it when he said,

"Then what you have done is you have completely trashed their essence,
their being. They find it very very very offensive. I'm a Muslim, I
find it offensive. But you have that right, but you're way outside
your boundaries or first amendment rights. This is what, and I said I
spent about 7 and a half years living in other countries. when we go
to other countries it's not uncommon for people to refer to us as ugly
Americans this is why we are referred to as ugly Americans, because we
are so concerned about our own rights we don't care about other
people's rights as long as we get our say but we don't care about the
other people's say"

But wait, it gets worse. The Judge refused to allow the video into
evidence, and then said,

"All that aside I've got here basically.. I don't want to say he said
she said but I've got two sides of the story that are in conflict with
each other."

And,

"The preponderance of, excuse me, the burden of proof… "

And,

"…he has not proven to me beyond a reasonable doubt that this
defendant is guilty of harassment, therefore I am going to dismiss the
charge"

The Judge neglected to address the fact that the ignorance of the law
does not justify an assault and that it was the responsibility of the
defendant to familiarize himself with our laws.  This is to say
nothing of the judge counseling the defendant that it is also not
acceptable for him to teach his children that it is acceptable to use
violence in the defense of religious beliefs.  Instead, the judge
gives Mr. Perce a lesson in Sharia law and drones on about the Muslim
faith, inform everyone in the court room how strongly he embraces
Islam, that the first amendment does not allow anyone " to piss off
other people and other cultures" and he was also insulted by Mr.
Perce's portrayal of Mohammed and the sign he carried.

This is a travesty. Not only did Judge Martin completely ignore video
evidence, but a Police Officer who was at the scene also testified on
Mr. Perce's behalf, to which the Judge also dismissed by saying the
officer didn't give an accurate account or doesn't give it any weight.

Here is a link to the video that includes the audio of the Judge
during the trial:

Here's coverage of the incident from the local ABC affiliate

Needless to say, this is totally, completely and unequivocally
unacceptable. That a Muslim immigrant can assault a United States
citizen in defense of his religious beliefs and walk away a free man,
while the victim is chastised and insulted by a Muslim judge who then
blamed the victim for the crime committed against him is a horrible
abrogation.

This reeks of those cases we used to read about where a woman is
blamed for her own rape because she "was asking for it" by virtue of
the clothing she chose to wear, and then having the Judge set the
rapist free.

I can promise you this, you have not heard the last of this issue. Not
by a long shot.



Al Stefanelli - Georgia State Director, American Atheists, Inc.

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