..........Geez.......
I think if I were to meet you face-to-face, and maybe over a couple of Budweisers, I could explain to you the difference between "Imperialists"; "Interventonists"; "Isolationists"; and the distinction between "Wacko Left, Socialist-Elitist Moonbats" versus "Wacko Right, Conspiratorialist Crackpots"......
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:22 PM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
These socialists (except when it comes to lining their own---
pockets!) have damn near ruined our Nation!
true
so, we get to choose between socialists and imperialists
vote 3rd party!
> *"I think the responsibility that the Democrats have, may rest more in
On Dec 6, 8:10 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's not kid ourselves, this is the Democrats, not Republicans here who
> are to blame. These socialists (except when it comes to lining their own
> pockets!) have damn near ruined our Nation! Barney Frank, Franklin
> Raines, Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd, the list goes on, and they are all
> Socialist Democrats! Hell, even Bill Clinton admitted it:
>
> resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress, or by me when I was> Freddie Mac."*
> president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum>
>
>
>
>
>
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> > the Justice Department's failure to investigate Wall Street, crony
> > corporatism, and
> > Countrywide
> > ----
> > ah ... the good old days when you could sell a loan package with
> > almost no regulations
>
> > On Dec 6, 12:43 pm, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Last night's *60 Minutes* featured a truly shameful story on the Justice
> > > Department's failure to investigate Wall Street, crony corporatism, and
> > > Countrywide. Steve Kroft pretended to be investigating while not asking
> > > the Obama Justice Department lackeys (former Clinton administration
> > > lackeys) ANY pointed questions at all. One wonders if he got slapped
> > > around for asking Nancy Pelosi about her insider trading profits a few
> > > weeks back and was told to make atonement.
>
> > > <http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MNDpxK_MzvI/Tt5gDKHYUyI/AAAAAAAAAqw/WM0pKa_..
> > .>
>
> > > He was skewered for it today for an hour by radio host Chris Plante on
> > DC's
> > > WMAL (which is usually rebroadcast on the weekend, since I can't find it
> > > for you on-line). But all one need do is repair to Wikipedia (George
> > Soros
> > > has not bought it yet) to find that everyone from Nancy Pelosi's son to
> > > Congressman James Clyburn to former Senator Chris Dodd to many other
> > > Clinton and Obama hireling were given favorable loan terms for keeping
> > the
> > > party going:
>
> > > "Friends of Angelo (FOA)" VIP program
>
> > > Further information: Countrywide financial political loan
> > > scandal<
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countrywide_financial_political_loan_sca...>
>
> > > In June 2008 Conde Nast
> > > Portfolio<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conde_Nast_Portfolio> reported
> > > that several influential lawmakers and politicians, including Senate
> > > Banking Committee <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Banking_Committee
>
> > > Chairman Christopher Dodd
> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dodd>, Senate
> > > Budget Committee <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Budget_Committee>
> > > Chairman Kent Conrad <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Conrad>, and
> > Fannie
> > > Mae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_Mae> former CEO Jim
> > > Johnson<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Johnson_(businessman)>,
> > > received favorable mortgage financing from Countrywide by virtue of being
> > > "Friends of Angelo."[13]<
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-Countrywide.27s_...>
> > > [14]<
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-CFC_Friends_Loan...>
>
> > > Senator Dodd received a $75,000 reduction in mortgage payments from
> > > Countrywide at allegedly below-market rates on his Washington, D.C. and
> > > Connecticut homes. Michael Moore's*Capitalism: A Love Story* shows on
> > film
> > > that this was actually over a million dollars of a sweet-heart mortgage
> > > deal.[13]<
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-Countrywide.27s_...>
> > > [15]<
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-Dodd_Angelo.27s_...>
> > > Dodd
> > > nonetheless called for stronger regulation of mortgage lenders and
> > proposed
> > > that predatory lenders should face criminal
> > > charges.[16]<
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-deal-15>
>
> > > Clinton Jones III, senior counsel of the House Financial Services
> > > Subcommittee on Housing and Community Opportunity, and "an adviser to
> > > ranking Republican members of Congress responsible for legislation of
> > > interest to the financial services industry and of importance to
> > > Countrywide." was given special treatment. Jones is now state director
> > for
> > > federal residential-mortgage bundler Freddie Mac. Alphonso
> > > Jackson<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonso_Jackson>,
> > > acting secretary of HUD at the time and long time friend and Texas
> > neighbor
> > > of President Bush, received a discounted mortgage for himself and sought
> > > one for his daughter. "In 2003, using V.I.P. loans for nearly $1 million
> > > apiece, Franklin Raines <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Raines>,
> > > Fannie Mae's chairman and C.E.O. from 1999 to 2004, twice refinanced his
> > > seven-bedroom home, which has a pool and movie
> > > theater."[16]<
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-deal-15>
>
> > > Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi<
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi>'s
> > > son, Paul Pelosi, Jr., also received a loan with Countrywide. Barbara
> > > Boxer<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Boxer>
> > > , Adam H. Putnam <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_H._Putnam>, Richard
> > C.
> > > Holbrooke <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_C._Holbrooke>, James E.
> > > Clyburn <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._Clyburn>, and Donna
> > > Shalala<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Shalala> are
> > > also among those with mortgages from Countrywide.
>
> > > CBS News <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBS_News> has obtained the
> > following
> > > list of then-Fannie Mae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_Mae>
> > employees
> > > whose names have been turned over to investigators as having received VIP
> > > loans from Countrywide:[17]<
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo#cite_note-16>
>
> > > - Sandra Adams: Fannie Mae Account Associate
> > > - Nitirwork Armstrong: Fannie Mae Director
> > > - Gregg Ayres: Fannie Mae Customer Acct Manager
> > > - Jeffrey Baker: Fannie Mae Business Analyst
> > > - Ingrid Beckles: Freddie Mac VP Default Mgmt
> > > - Cherry Billings: Fannie Mae Asst to CEO
> > > - Christine Buckley: Fannie Mae Sr Assistant
> > > - Sharon Canavan: Fannie Mae Govt Relations/Lobbyist
> > > - Delynn Conley: Fannie Mae Underwriter
> > > - Carla Corpuz: Fannie Mae Senior Underwriter
> > > - Tanguy De Carbonnieres: Fannie Mae Legal Counsel
> > > - Bernard Deane: Fannie Mae Director
> > > - Mollie Dougherty: Fannie Mae Sr Business Manager
> > > - Roy Downey: Fannie Mae Director
> > > - Cynthia Fatica: Fannie Mae Legal Counsel
> > > - Jamie Gorelick <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Gorelick>:
> > Fannie
> > > Mae Vice Chair
> > > - Lizbeth Grant: Fannie Mae Director Tec/Secondary Mkt
> > > - Greta Hamilton: Fannie Mae Manager/Home Loans
> > > - Lester Handy: Fannie Mae Consultant
> > > - James Johnson: Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO
> > > - Jack King: Fannie Mae Manager
> > > - Karen King: Fannie Mae Credit Risk manager
> > > - Gerald Langbauer: Freddie Mac VP Sales
> > > - Derek Lowe: Fannie Mae Technician/Home Loans
> > > - Mary Lee Moriarity: Fannie Mae Sr Underwriter Consult/Lending
> > > - Daniel Mudd: Fannie Mae Vice Chair and COO
> > > - Paulette Porter: Fannie Mae Sr Proj Mgr/Mtg Securities
> > > - Alan Quirion: Freddie Mac Director
> > > - John Radwanski: Freddie Mac Sr Port Director
> > > - Franklin Raines: Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO
> > > - Robin Ramsay: Fannie Mae Customer Acct Manager
> > > - Rebecca Rosena: Fannie Mae Credit Risk manager
> > > - Irwin Rosenstein: Fannie Mae Ass. General Counsel
> > > - Robert Sanborn: Fannie Mae Vice President
> > > - William Shirreffs: Fannie Mae Director
> > > - Joseph Silva: Fannie Mae Servicing Portfolio Manager
> > > - Donna Simpson: Fannie Mae Customer Acct Manager
> > > - Michelle Sorensen: Fannie Mae Sr Business An/Mortgage
> > > - Mary Ann Staley: Fannie Mae Marketing Dir
> > > - Deborah Kay: Tretler Fannie Mae VP Risk Management
> > > - Kirk Willison: Freddie Mac VP Trade Relations/Dir Industry Relations
> > > - David Yoon: Fannie Mae Acct Associate
>
> > > [edit<
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Angelo_Mozilo&action=edit&s...>
> > > ]
>
> > > <http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-45R7KdcmwD8/Tt5gLym7lsI/AAAAAAAAAq4/aRHymb8..
> > .>
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