Saturday, December 31, 2011

Re: GOP Establishment wrong to ‘disenfranchise’ Ron Paul supporters

Perplexed has it right... if he cuts and runs as an independent Obama
will win... he has 15% of the vote in his pocket.

On Dec 31, 7:35 am, Perplexed <openlyincogn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Keith, I agree with you that a lot of his views are those of a
> crackpot.  But I noticed yesterday watching some discussion on one of
> the Fox News shows that the pundits are being downright stupid in how
> they are stepping up the talking points of "he's not electable".  To
> say he couldn't win in a general election is likely very true, but
> that's not what they were doing.  The person actually referred to his
> candidacy as a "joke".
>
> Personally I think that kind of nonsense will backfire and encourage
> Paul to run as an independent and republicans can kiss any chance of
> defeating Obama good-bye.  These ignorant assholes who make up the
> "GOP establishment" and their mouthpieces in the media are apparently
> too stupid to realize they should be respectful and leave room to
> encourage Paul to join whoever the eventual nominee is - because
> without him AND his supporters voting for whoever that is, republicans
> stand no chance of winning, and that's just a fact.
>
> On Dec 31, 12:49 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:00 PM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
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> > > Posted on Thu, Dec. 29, 2011
> > > *GOP Establishment wrong to 'disenfranchise' Ron Paul supporters
> > > *BY COLIN MCINTOSH
>
> > > Don't tread on me.
>
> > > Recently, something's been amiss in the mainstream media when discussing
> > > Ron Paul's candidacy. As the Texas congressman's support has surged to 15
> > > percent nationally in the latest Washington Post poll, the "Very Serious
> > > Republicans" who write columns and give their opinions on TV and radio
> > > shows have changed their tune. They aren't as confident, as cocky or as
> > > arrogant as they used to be when predicting the 2012 presidential election.
>
> > > Now, they sound scared; they sound nervous; they sound shaken. But most
> > > important, they sound resolute that they, and not their audience, represent
> > > the opinions of mainstream America. They are wrong, and their gamble will
> > > be costly.
>
> > > In the absence of facts to support the Establishment candidates, the media
> > > have turned to personal insults, childish mockery, and deliberate
> > > misinterpretation of Dr. Paul's lessons. Their goal, quite shamefully, is
> > > to convince Ron Paul supporters that the candidate that they believe in has
> > > no chance of winning the nomination, let alone the general election. Here
> > > are some recent headlines from around the web: "Huckabee slams Ron Paul,
> > > says he has 'no chance' to win Republican nomination"­ The Hill "Ron Paul
> > > can't be allowed to win Iowa" ­ Daily Caller "Why Ron Paul Can't Win" ­
> > > Wall Street Journal "If Ron Paul wins Iowa, does that make the state
> > > irrelevant?"­ Christian Science Monitor
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> > > This type of overt pressure from our media to change your vote because
> > > "your candidate can't win" constitutes a form of disenfranchisement.
> > > Despite Paul's rise to the front of the pack in Iowa, the media still
> > > ignore that his national support from Republicans has risen from 9 percent
> > > to 15 percent in a month (Washington Post/ABC poll, Dec. 18). They refuse
> > > to report the fact that he would lose only by 49-44 in a hypothetical race
> > > against Obama, down from 52-42 just one month ago.
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> > > They will never tell us that 21 percent of Americans polled chose to vote
> > > for Ron Paul as a third party candidate over the hypothetical choices of
> > > President Obama or Romney/Gingrich.
>
> > > This last statistic leads me to my main point: if the GOP nominates anyone
> > > besides Ron Paul, Barack Obama will win the 2012 election.
>
> > > Why?
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> > > Currently, Establishment Republicans are issuing an obvious warning to
> > > Paul's base: vote for Romney, or the Democrats will win in November.
> > > Clearly, they hope this ominous bit of advice also reaches the millions of
> > > Americans who are still learning about Ron Paul's views. Well, Dr. Paul's
> > > supporters have a retort: we don't give a damn.
>
> > > There are worse things than having a Democrat in the White House, and
> > > disenfranchisement is among them. We will not vote for whom we are told. We
> > > will not vote for a candidate who espouses a policy of preemptive war. We
> > > will not vote for the continuation of a flawed, costly, discriminatory drug
> > > war. We will not vote for the circumnavigation of the U.S. Constitution. We
> > > will not vote for a candidate (Romney) who has received just 10 percent of
> > > his campaign donations from actual people (from opensecrets.org). And we
> > > will not feel remorse for a Republican Party that has abandoned us.
>
> > > I am a registered Republican, but when I listen to my so-called party
> > > leaders, I become infuriated and despondent. When did preemptive war become
> > > our national defense? When did the desire to police the world become so
> > > mainstream that we forgot that our nation was birthed from a repugnance to
> > > imperialism? When did we concede that the federal government has the right
> > > to regulate our lives to the point of quiet despotism?
>
> > > And most important, when did we become convinced that our votes and voices
> > > only matter if we support the perceived frontrunner?
>
> > > As an advocate of liberty, I will vote on principle over party, every
> > > time. If the Republican Party took the time to educate its members on the
> > > issues, rather than simply bullying them into submission, their party
> > > wouldn't be so splintered right now, and perhaps Dr. Paul would have a
> > > unified force behind him heading into November. Instead, GOP leaders seem
> > > committed to promoting the status quo, to increasing their own power and
> > > influence, and to keeping the support of moneyed interests.
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> > > If the GOP Establishment is successful in convincing Republicans to
> > > nominate Romney instead of Paul, and Paul does indeed run as an
> > > independent, Obama will win with 45 percent of the vote, and the GOP will
> > > have no one to blame but themselves.
>
> > > Colin McIntosh, a resident of Fort Lauderdale and graduate of St. Thomas
> > > Aquinas High School, is a senior at Emory University in Atlanta and will
> > > graduate this spring with bachelor degrees in economics and business
> > > administration.
>
> > >http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/29/2566016/gop-establishment-wrong...
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