Re: Truth versus MSNBC (about Ron Paul)

It is all about our dollar as
being the reserve currency of the world
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On Sep 9, 11:05 am, lbiglee75 <leroys...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Keith, I didn't say it was over oil. It is all about our dollar as
> being the reserve currency of the world. What price are we paying to
> maintain that?
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> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hello Leroy,
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> > First, I dispute that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are only over oil.
> > To prove my point, if this were the case, why didn't we just keep the oil
> > fields that we had taken back in the first Gulf war?  Why didn't we just
> > nationalize the oil fields in Iraq back five or six years ago?  The same
> > logic applies with the Trans-Afghanistan oil pipeline?  That dawg won't
> > hunt....
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> > Having said the above,  there is no question that havng free and
> > unrestricted access to the oil in the Southest Asian region is imperative to
> > our national interests.  it was our techology, our know-how,  our
> > equipment,  our man-power,  our resources and our dollars that found the
> > oil, drilled for the oil,  pumped the oil, and transported the oil to
> > refineries and to market.
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> > Whether you like it, or don't like it, Western civilization is based on
> > hydrocarbons, from the clothes that you wear, to the food that you eat,  to
> > the toilet that you shit upon, not to mention every single source of energy
> > and transportation that you utilize.   Yep,  oil is no question very
> > important, and it is in our national interests to keep those sources of oil
> > viable and flowing.
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> > War,  (to include "police actions"  such as we are involved in Afghanistan
> > and to a lesser degree Iraq)  suck.  War is Hell.  Folks die. Innocent
> > folks. Not so innocent folks. There is collateral damage. There is intended
> > damage.   Nothing pretty, nothing really good coming out of a war.
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> > Other than to protect our national interests.  (See Above).
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> > If we had it all over to do again,  would we choose another course of
> > action?  I don't have the answer to that, but I would think so.  It turned
> > out that Iraq was not as much of a threat as was first suspicioned,  but
> > "We" all believed that Hussein was a threat,  and when I say, "We";  I mean
> > the Saudis,  the Egyptians, the Russians,  all of the European Union, our
> > CIA,  the MI5,  etc., etc., etc.
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> > I will agree that I don't have a clue what we are doing in Afghanistan
> > today.   I don't see a real exit strategy, and I don't know the purpose of
> > what the Hell we are doing there in 2011.
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> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:09 AM, lbiglee75 <leroys...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Keith, do you mean that the one we have now is right? Costing us lives
> >> and bankrupting our nation. Their talking about the only way out of
> >> our dilemma  is another world war. Do you think for one minute that
> >> the Global Elite wants Ron Paul's message out? Do you think they want
> >> an open hearing about the Fed and the monetary system out? What was
> >> the deal made with OPEC to accept our dollar for payment for oil and
> >> what has it cost us? I don't care about the money, But the lives is an
> >> other matter. Sorry I don't agree with your assessment.
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> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Good Morning from Tampa Leroy!
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> >> > As I have stated,  I think Dr. Paul is brilliant, and exactly on point
> >> > with
> >> > his fiscal and economic policies.  We have now seen most all of the
> >> > Republican candidates adopt the majority of what Paul has been saying
> >> > for
> >> > ten years or more.
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> >> > Other than Paul's fiscal and economic policies,  Paul is so literally
> >> > clueless when it comes to foreign policy,  that it makes him dangerous.
> >> > Paul is an isolationist, in  a very dangerous world.
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> >> > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:22 PM, lbiglee75 <leroys...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> >> Keith, out of 77.000 votes Kieth what is Ron Paul saying other than he
> >> >> believe we the people know better what is best than the Fed's
> >> >> dictating to us and telling us what drum beat we must follow. When he
> >> >> is given a chance he can hold his own.Believe me all the others will
> >> >> be marching to someone beat.
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> >> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Most all conservative pundits gave Paul an F.
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> >> >> > Again, Paul has staunch supporters.  The fifteen hundred or so that
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > around the Nation are vocal.  Much like Moonbats.
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> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:56 PM, plainolamerican
> >> >> > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
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> >> >> >> Go RP!!!
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> >> >> >> On Sep 8, 5:54 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Thursday, September 8, 2011Truth versus MSNBC (about Ron
> >> >> >> > Paul)Robert
> >> >> >> > Wenzel
> >> >> >> > Last night after the Republican presidential debate, MSNBC
> >> >> >> > conducted
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > poll online to see who viewers thought won the debate. It was a
> >> >> >> > blow
> >> >> >> > away
> >> >> >> > victory for Ron Paul, below is a bar chart showing the Ron Paul
> >> >> >> > win
> >> >> >> > and also
> >> >> >> > the bar chart that was run by MSNBC. Notice the incorrect
> >> >> >> > proportions
> >> >> >> > in the
> >> >> >> > MSNBC chart showing Rick Perry and Mitt Romney much closer to Ron
> >> >> >> > Paul, in
> >> >> >> > votes, than they actually were. By the way the MSNBC chart was
> >> >> >> > even
> >> >> >> > more
> >> >> >> > distorted early on. Bob Murphy caught a screenshot of theBig Lie.
> >> >> >> > (Thanks 2 John T Foster for the correctly proportioned
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> >> >> >> > chart.)http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/09/truth-versus-msnbc-about...
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