Tuesday, September 6, 2011

Re: 10 years, two wars, over a million dead....

10 years, two wars, over a million dead....
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and the US interventionist policy is still a complete failure and
still getting our soldiers killed.

When will this insanity stop?

Believing that America should "export democracy," that is, spread its
ideals of government, economics, and culture abroad, they grew to
reject U.S. reliance on international organizations and treaties to
accomplish these objectives. Compared with other U.S. conservatives,
neoconservatives take a more idealist stance on foreign policy; adhere
less to social conservatism; have a weaker dedication to the policy of
minimal government; and in the past, have been more supportive of the
welfare state. According to Norman Podhoretz,
" "the neo-conservatives dissociated themselves from the wholesale
opposition to the welfare state which had marked American conservatism
since the days of the New Deal" and . . . while neoconservatives
supported "setting certain limits" to the welfare state, those limits
did not involve "issues of principle, such as the legitimate size and
role of the central government in the American constitutional order"
but were to be "determined by practical considerations."[61] "

Aggressive support for democracies and nation building is additionally
justified by a belief that, over the long term, it will reduce the
extremism that is a breeding ground for Islamic terrorism.
Neoconservatives, along with many other political theorists[citation
needed], have argued that democratic regimes are less likely to
instigate a war than a country with an authoritarian form of
government. Further, they argue that the lack of freedoms, lack of
economic opportunities, and the lack of secular general education in
authoritarian regimes promotes radicalism and extremism. Consequently,
neoconservatives advocate the spread of democracy to regions of the
world where it currently does not prevail, notably the Arab nations of
the Middle East, communist China and North Korea, and Iran.

In July 2008 Joe Klein wrote in TIME magazine that today's
neoconservatives are more interested in confronting enemies than in
cultivating friends. He questioned the sincerity of neoconservative
interest in exporting democracy and freedom, saying, "Neoconservatism
in foreign policy is best described as unilateral bellicosity cloaked
in the utopian rhetoric of freedom and democracy."[62]

In February 2009 Andrew Sullivan wrote he no longer took
neoconservatism seriously because its basic tenet was defense of
Israel:[63]

The closer you examine it, the clearer it is that neoconservatism,
in large part, is simply about enabling the most irredentist elements
in Israel and sustaining a permanent war against anyone or any country
who disagrees with the Israeli right. That's the conclusion I've been
forced to these last few years. And to insist that America adopt
exactly the same constant-war-as-survival that Israelis have been
slowly forced into... But America is not Israel. And once that
distinction is made, much of the neoconservative ideology collapses.

Neoconservatives respond to charges of merely rationalizing support
for Israel by noting that their "position on the Middle East conflict
was exactly congruous with the neoconservative position on conflicts
everywhere else in the world, including places where neither Jews nor
Israeli interests could be found.


On Sep 3, 9:33 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> and the US is still reeling from 9/11.
>
> Neither of the governments of the two countries the US has attacked
> has been proven to support the 9/11 attackers.
>
> The countries whose banks and militaries did send training and the
> money to AQ and others still remain untouched and actually guarded.
>
> The poppy fields that are the one consistent source of finance for
> terrorist organisations remain untouched and protected by US executive
> mandate.
>
> The attacks have succeeded ............ the US is broke.... it is the
> Soviet years in Afghanistan in reverse with the US wall falling this
> time. GET A CLUE !!!!!!!!
>
> When will the US learn to think beyond the length of its ever
> shortening penis?

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