Sunday, August 28, 2011

Re: Is Ron Paul A Useful Idiot?

The problem is not non-interventionists it is the absolute lack of a
clear and permanent definition of what should qualify the need for an
intervention. If the premise of a "clear and present danger" were to
be used it would have no detractors and we never would have been
involved in any war, conflict or police action since WW2. History
proves that none of these actions has solved anything.

As to Israel... I do wholeheartedly support them, I would never
support them by selling weapons (by front or back channels) to their
obvious enemies. Yet the US does just that.... The best way to win at
war is to NOT play.

Most US oil comes from the new world, Saudi Arabia (tell me why we
sell them weapons again) and Nigeria. If there is a problem to be
solved in the mid-East let those most affected do the solving....
Europe.

On Aug 28, 9:40 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Is Ron Paul A Useful Idiot?*
> **http://bigpeace.com/smitsotakis/2011/08/27/is-ron-paul-a-useful-idiot/
>
> Over at the American Spectator, the great Jeffrey Lord writes that "almost
> to a person … prominent pre-Ron Paul non-interventionist "Paulist"
> politicians of the 20th century were overwhelmingly not conservatives at
> all. They were men of the left. The far left."
>
> From three-time Democratic presidential nominee and Woodrow Wilson Secretary
> of State William Jennings Bryan to powerful Montana Democratic Senator
> Burton K. Wheeler to *FDR's ex-vice presidential nominee Henry Wallace* to
> the 1968 anti-war presidential candidacy of Minnesota Democratic Senator
> Eugene McCarthy to 1972 Democratic presidential nominee (and *Henry Wallace
> delegate in 1948*) George McGovern, non-interventionists have held prominent
> positions in the American Left that was and is the Democratic
> Party.(emphasis added)
>
> What was unique about Wallace's 1948 Progressive Party campaign was how it
> was completely controlled by the secret Communist Party agents that
> surrounded Wallace, despite the fact that he was not a Communist. Lillian
> Hellman, who despite her denials was indeed a secret member of the Communist
> Party, admitted as much in her 1976 book *Scoundrel Time*:
>
> During the early autumn of 1948, four or five of us [leaders of the
> Progressive Party campaign] were eating lunch together on the day of a large
> evening rally. When lunch was finished Wallace suggested that he and I take
> a walk. … When we had walked for a while, he asked me if it was true that
> many of the people, the important people, in the Progressive Party were
> Communists. It was such a surprising question that I laughed and said most
> certainly it was true.
> He said, "Then it is true, what they're saying?"
> "Yes," I said. "I thought you must have known that. The hard, dirty work in
> the office is done by them and a good deal of the bad advice you're getting
> is given by the higher-ups. I don't think they mean any harm; they're
> stubborn men."
> "I see," he said, and that was that.
>
> What is clear is that the Communists – who, of course, did mean harm – were
> able to drive the campaign of a non-Communist due to their *influence*. And
> Wallace knew it, despite his public denials. As Arthur Herman pointed out in
> *National Review* "when Hubert Humphrey complained about the prominent role
> Communists were playing in the election, Wallace blithely told him to go
> talk to the Russian embassy — it had more influence over his campaign
> officials than he did."
>
> So if it can happen to Henry Wallace, why can't it happen to his Republican
> mirror, Ron Paul? On Thursday, Mark Levin had Jeffrey Lord on his show to
> talk about his article (listen to it here, here and here), where they
> discussed all the crackpots and "neo-confederates" that surround Ron Paul in
> his inner circle. What would a group like think of, say, Israel?
>
> Well, on his own website, we find that: "On January 9, [2009] Ron Paul
> addressed Congress to voice his opposition to a House resolution expressing
> strong support for Israel in its invasion of Gaza, and branding Hamas as a
> terrorist organization." It goes on to proudly highlight that he went on
> Press TV (the Iranian state propaganda channel) and Russia Today (KGB-TV
> basically, with it's paid agents promoting and even doing fund-raising for
> Ron Paul).
>
> Anyone who has spent time around his supporters know what they think of
> Israel, and likely had to hear the anti-Semitic conspiracy theories that are
> so widespread in his little cult. What is their influence? Why doesn't he
> denounce them? Also, such a denunciation would have a devastating impact
> both the national and international crackpot communities that sustain
> anti-Americanism, as the great Cold War era defector and former KGB General
> turned American Patriot Ion Mihai Pacepa explained. Wouldn't that be in our
> national interest, Dr. Paul?
>
> I await my hate mail.
>
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