Sunday, August 28, 2011

Re: Ron Paul: The GOP’s Henry Wallace

Funny that Congressman Paul fancies himself a new Ronald Reagan,
because it
was Reagan's pro-military investments which made the Bin Laden raid
possible<http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/
571447/201105061854/..
.>,
plus much more. In fact, when Russert asked Dr. Paul about a 1988
statement
made by Paul against Reagan, when Paul had proclaimed, "I want to
totally
disassociate myself from the Reagan administration," the congressman
didn't
back off. Paul declared Reagan had been "a failure."

It was Reagans policies that created, trained and armed bin Laden...
that is an undeniable fact. Every country involved in the treasonous
yet all too easily dismissed Iran - Contra affair is doing better
today than then with one exception.... the USA.

Preemptive strikes whether overt or covert always have been and always
will be eventual failures. People just don't like them. Yes, they may
not like their dictator.... but he is THEIR dictator...one of them.

As far as Iran, Paul has it right... just what part of the fact that
the word SOVEREIGN applies to every country just as it does to the USA
don't you get??????????????????????????? They can do and or produce
what they want within their borders, they can trade with who they want
just as the USA can.

Most countries have a far better grasp of trade and foreign affairs
and all the lasting implications than the USA does. Very few knee jerk
like gringos.

Ever since the Germans ill-fated foray into Romania oil has been at
the forefront of every conflict including Vietnam (herbert hoover,
french indo-china reports) yet the USA does nothing to alleviate its
out of country dependence. (2/3 of all US imported oil comes from
Canadians ((2/3 of this same oil field is located in the US)) using a
process that the US companies claim is too expensive.... yet the gain
of the Canadian Dollar against US currency says it all)

Paul has it right.... most are just too blind to see it.

On Aug 28, 9:39 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Ron Paul: The GOP's Henry Wallace*
> **http://bigpeace.com/smitsotakis/2011/08/15/ron-paul-the-gops-henry-wa...
>
> The conspiracy-minded John Birch Society, long ago expelled from the
> conservative movement by Ronald Reagan and William F. Buckley, Jr., is
> abuzz<http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/8572-ames-iowa-go...>over
> Congressman Ron Paul's "Blame America First" performance at Thursday
> night's Republican presidential debate.
>
> Oddly, it was Paul's bizarre assessment of a nuclear Iran that impressed
> Birchers—and his many devoted supporters. "Just think of how many nuclear
> weapons surround Iran," said Paul. "The Chinese are there. The Indians are
> there. The Pakistanis are there. The Israelis are there. The United States
> is there. All these countries … Why wouldn't it be natural if they might
> want a weapon? Internationally, they might be given more respect. Why should
> we write people off?"
> After arguing for Iran—the world's leading terror state for 30 years and
> counting—to have nukes, Paul next implored America to negotiate with these
> terrorists, citing examples from the Cold War, invoking Eisenhower in the
> 1950s and Reagan in the 1980s: "In the fifties, we at least talked to them
> [the Soviets]. At least our leaders and Reagan talked to the Soviets. What's
> so terribly bad about this? And countries you put sanctions on you are more
> likely to fight them. I say a policy of peace is free trade, stay out of
> their internal business, don't get involved in these wars and just bring our
> troops home."
>
> This disdain for strong action against America's enemies is nothing new for
> Ron Paul. A few months ago, he was asked his reaction to the elimination of
> Osama Bin Laden. His response? He stated that that the Navy SEAL raid on Bin
> Laden's hideout in Pakistan "was absolutely not necessary." Why? Because of
> the violation (alleged) of Pakistani sovereignty. Paul asked rhetorically
> "What if he [Osama] had been in a hotel in London?"
>
> Of course, Thursday was hardly the first time the libertarian congressman
> went out of his way to make excuses for America's enemies, or blame America
> first. In 2007, when asked by Tim Russert, "How have we, the United States,
> provoked al-Qaeda?" Paul responded: "Well, read what the lead—the ringleader
> says. Read what Osama bin Laden said. We had, we had a base, you know, in
> Saudi Arabia that was an affront to their religion, that was blasphemy as
> far as they were concerned."
>
> Funny that Congressman Paul fancies himself a new Ronald Reagan, because it
> was Reagan's pro-military investments which made the Bin Laden raid
> possible<http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/571447/201105061854/...>,
> plus much more. In fact, when Russert asked Dr. Paul about a 1988 statement
> made by Paul against Reagan, when Paul had proclaimed, "I want to totally
> disassociate myself from the Reagan administration," the congressman didn't
> back off. Paul declared Reagan had been "a failure."
>
> It is distressing to see such silliness having an appeal, especially among
> many college students, but, alas, it does.
>
> And yet, in an ironic twist of fate, what we as Republicans are experiencing
> has happened before, but it happened to Democrats. The Democrats of the
> post-war 1940s had to deal with their own version of Ron Paul: Henry
> Wallace.
>
> Like Dr. Paul, Wallace was a man of many great ideas. He was, in the words
> of Cold War historian Ronald Radosh, "an agricultural genius—a man who
> believed in the concept of scientific agriculture, and in the diligent
> agronomic use of statistical research; and in the diligent agronomic use of
> statistical research; and a scientist whose own research led him to develop
> and spread the process of hybrid corn—a process that revolutionized the
> yield of corn and led to an agricultural revolution."
>
> In short, agriculture was to Wallace what monetary policy is to Paul.
>
> Wallace served as secretary of agriculture and later vice president in the
> Roosevelt administration; that is, he did so until his weirdness and
> remarkable reverence for Stalin's Soviet Union prompted FDR to switch him
> with Harry Truman in the 1944 election, making Wallace his secretary of
> commerce.
>
> After FDR died, the new president, Truman, kept Wallace as secretary of
> commerce. With the war over, however, Wallace found himself in a tough spot.
> Troubled by the onset of the Cold War, he was driven to speak out on
> September 1946, and denounce the new threat to world peace: that is, the
> threat posed by America and *Truman* to that amiable peacenik Joe Stalin.
> Shortly thereafter, Wallace was removed from his position.
>
> Importantly, Wallace was far from finished. Like Ron Paul, Wallace steadily
> denounced American foreign policy, as pursued by both Democrats and
> Republicans—and he pursued the presidency.
>
> Like Ron Paul, Wallace would not let those World War III seeking
> "Imperialists" working in the interests of "British Colonialism" get off
> easy. (For Paul today, replace the words "Imperialists" with "Neo-cons" and
> "British Colonialism" with "Israel.") And when Stalin would do something
> unpleasant, such as take over Czechoslovakia in February of 1948, Wallace
> would explain that it was Truman's fault. Wallace blamed America first, in
> spite of the blatantly aggressive actions of an obvious external enemy.
>
> Thus, Wallace and some of his old friends from the Department of Agriculture
> started their own version of Paul's "Campaign for Liberty." They called
> themselves "Progressive Citizens of America." Wallace's supporters believed
> that the U.S. government was behind a conspiracy to create worldwide crises
> in order to subvert and dominate other nations for American imperial
> purposes. They insisted that "innocent" people, like Alger Hiss, were being
> unjustly persecuted. This group later morphed into the Progressive Party,
> from which Wallace would challange Truman for the presidency in 1948.
>
> In 1948, presidential candidate Wallace proclaimed: "There is no real fight
> between a Truman and a Republican. Both stand for a policy which opens the
> door to war in our lifetime and makes war certain for our children. … The
> American people read of the fantastic appropriations that are being made for
> military adventures in Greece, Turkey, China—and billions for armaments here
> at home. … Two years ago I denounced those who were talking up World War III
> as criminals. Of course, the bulk of our people are not criminals, but it is
> possible for a little handful of warmongers to stampede them."
>
> And with his comrades, men like Harry Magdoff, Victor Perlo, and Charles
> Kramer, Wallace set out to win the presidency in 1948. His comrades failed
> to disclose to Wallace their other names, to wit: KANT (Magdoff), RAIDER
> (Perlo), and PLUMB (Kramer)—their code names as Soviet agents.
>
> If it isn't obvious by now, what had happened was that Wallace had been
> duped, and much to most of his party was controlled or influenced by the
> Communist Party. It took Wallace two more years after suffering a
> humiliating defeat in that election, and watching as the so-called
> Progressive Party backed the communists against American troops in Korea,
> for him to realize what was going on, whereby he denounced his own party and
> resigned.
>
> But the impact of that campaign went far beyond its time. In a review on the
> back cover of a first edition copy of Curtis Macdougall's "Gideon's Army," a
> KGB-published <http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/Marzani&Munsell-rpt.pdf> book
> (1965) about the Progressive Party, radical left-wing academic StaughtonLynd wrote: "There might have been no Bay of Pigs, no Vietnam, no Santo
>
> Domingo if the ideas of the third party of 1948 had prevailed … those ideas
> of 1948 are alive today." Just as Ron Paul, when asked by Tim Russert,
> "Under President Paul, if North Korea invaded South Korea, would we
> respond?" Paul promised he would not have. "Why should we unless the
> Congress declared war?" responded Paul. "I mean, why are we there? South
> Korea, they're begging and pleading to unify their country, and we get in
> their way. They want to build bridges and go back and forth. Vietnam, we
> left under the worst of circumstances. The country is unified. They have
> become Westernized. We trade with them. Their president comes here. And
> Korea, we stayed there and look at the mess."
>
> Needless to say, Ron Paul's commendable embrace of free-market principles in
> no way makes him sympathetic to Soviet communism, as was the case for Henry
> Wallace. Ron Paul is obviously not pro-Soviet or pro-communist—quite the
> contrary. The commonality is each man's breathtakingly bad positions on
> foreign policy and America's enemies. And unfortunately for Ron Paul, it
> will be that twisted view of foreign policy that forever keeps him from his
> party's nomination and the White House—just as it did Henry Wallace.
>
> *Spyridon Mitsotakis is a student at New York University, and an aspiring
> Cold War researcher.*
>
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