Re: Social Security vs Pensions

And who gets to decide who needs it and on what basis. That is the
problem. What you are doing is setting up the population to either plan
for their retirement and pour money down a hole they will never see with
the SS payments that you require or the population don't pay any
attention to the future and expect that those who are prudent will take
care of them instead. Neither is something that should be recommended.
Why should those who do plan and save for their future have to take care
of those who do not. You are penalizing the prudent ones and giving the
ones who are not prudent a gift just so you can feel good about
yourself. You still have no good answer for why there should be means
testing if those who have the means have no way of opting out of the
whole ponzi scheme.

On 05/20/2011 04:47 PM, studio wrote:
> On May 20, 1:00 pm, frankg<fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Studio,
>>
>> "You won't receive your car or home insurance back just because you
>> paid in either retard."
>>
>> Your analogy is seriously flawed.
> Nothing flawed about it, other than the comprehension levels of some
> of the people reading it.
>
>> Wealthy or poor, if you drive a car
>> you have the potential to have an accident and need insurance.
> True. So...
>
>> However, if Social Security worked as you propose, then someone
>> meeting your definition of wealth would have no chance of ever
>> collecting.
> And so do you think they would rather have the Social Security instead
> of the wealth?
>
>> So, really, what you're suggesting is that someone who
>> doesn't drive should still be paying car insurance to help pay for the
>> insurance of those who do.
> No, what I'm suggesting is *everyone* who works, pay insurance for
> *everyone* who works.
> Then the insurance be paid out to those who need it, instead of those
> who don't.
>
> You can't collect Social Security if you have never worked, or paid
> in.
> So your analogy is false.
>
> Keith in Köln
>
>> Geesh Frank!
>> That made sense! Do you expect a Moonbat to comprehend or understand
>> this? Studio is looking like a deer in the headlights right now!!
> It's better than that; a deer that's driving the semi that's gonna run
> some weasels over.
>

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