Sunday, March 6, 2011

Re: Wringing-the-Neck of Empty Ritual.

Jonathan, the socialist-communist, has the respect of no patriotic
American, and is thus undeserving of being replied to. — J. A. A. —
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On Mar 4, 1:51 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
wrote:
> It seems to me that John A. Armistead � Patriot � has wasted a lot of
> time. Not only will he not post his alleged masterpiece (which he claims
> has taken him 14 years to complete), he has allowed the current
> government many, many years to further decompose.
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> Since he claims to have all the answers, why has he not enticed the
> masses to accept his solutions?
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> On 03/04/2011 10:14 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
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> > Dear Sage 2:  Apparently, you can't understand the difference between
> > assessing the problems with our government and FIXING the problems.
> > Like I've told you, the Constitution was too "trusting" that quality
> > people would get elected to office.  The Founding Fathers had no way
> > of realizing the negative effects of having the elitist media treat
> > elected officials like ROYALTY.  The ego maniacal, career politicians
> > we now have in Washington (mostly lawyers) desired supposed public
> > service to make them feel more important.  The effect of that is to
> > have only ego maniacs willing to vie for public service.  But I want
> > salt-of-the-Earth types to represent us!  So, I take the media out of
> > the equation and limit our representatives to those who have NEVER
> > held public office before.
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> > Please realize that I don't have the time nor the motivation to keep
> > justifying my spending fourteen years writing my New Constitution,
> > only to have a "shallow" like you claim that no changes are needed.
> > My guess is that you are hoping in your heart that I don't get to FIX
> > the problems, because you like the unfair inequities in this country
> > just as they are.  If you can�t change your thinking relative to my
> > efforts, this will be the last time I ever reply to you.  ï¿½ John A.
> > Armistead �  Patriot
> > On Mar 2, 11:26 pm, Sage2<wisdom...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>             Hi Keith,Mark and John
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> >>           The weakness is not in the Constitution but in the fact that
> >> we have moved away from it's original intent. To make a long history
> >> short we have become a two party oligarchy whereby the politicians
> >> represent themselves their "shadows" and their " phantoms"; not the
> >> American public nor The Constitution.  This is evident in the fact
> >> that many in both parties try to undermine and discredit the
> >> grassroots movement known as The Tea Party. It is their worse
> >> nightmare. Fortunately it is a nightmare they will have to live with
> >> for a long time. The process then is not to rewrite The U.S.
> >> Constitution but to restore IT and restore power back to the American
> >> people. Only then will the intentions of the " founding fathers " be
> >> realized again !
> >> *************************************************************************** ********************************************************
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> >> On Feb 27, 7:14 pm, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
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> >>> Dear Sage 2:  Consider this:  If our original Constitution was so
> >>> perfect, how has it been possible that government evolved away from
> >>> the ideals of the Founding Fathers?  It did so because that document
> >>> is WEAK!  There was an assumption that elected officials would be
> >>> motivated to do what is best for the country (ha!).  But everyone
> >>> knows politicians do what they know gives them the best chance of
> >>> getting re elected.  Making socialist-communist promises to the lazy
> >>> wasn't nixed by any language of the Constitution.  But my New
> >>> Constitution will hang for treason anyone advocating socialism�the
> >>> anti-thesis of the democratic ideals of the Founding Fathers.  I
> >>> suspect that you are far more left than the country can tolerate.
> >>> Please give the readers a capsule description of your feelings about
> >>> the free-market capitalist system that made the USA great.  And about
> >>> your ideas on the role of government in such an economy.  Thanks.  ï¿½
> >>> John A. Armistead, � Patriot �
> >>> On Feb 26, 11:11 pm, Sage2<wisdom...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>>         Hey Keith, Mark et al,
> >>>>       Suffice it to say that OUR Constitution need never be rewritten
> >>>> nor changed, but from time to time revisited to it's original intent
> >>>> and meaning, less personal interpretation. " It is what it is " and
> >>>> was not intended to be anything more nor anything less than that. The
> >>>> only true recourse the founding fathers wisely gave us was the "
> >>>> amendment " and even they should be rare and few. We should not try to
> >>>> fix what ain't broke by breaking that which don't need fixing !
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> >>>> On Feb 26, 6:31 am, KeithInSeoul<keithinta...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>>> Greetings from Seoul Korea John!
> >>>>> Uhm.....This seems to me, to be, "Much Ado, About Nothing".....
> >>>>> We'd all like to read your "New Constitution";  but if ya don't want to
> >>>>> share it with the group, that is your perogative.
> >>>>> The purpose of Political Forum is to share political thought, ideas,
> >>>>> commentary and opinion, as well as to comment on government, politics, world
> >>>>> affairs and current events.  (And occasionally,  pro football and
> >>>>> baseball!)  Your posts I find sometimes interesting and usually thought
> >>>>> provoking, so therein lied my initial interest in you posting your, "New
> >>>>> Constitution".   It was never my intent to get a shit storm started!
> >>>>> If you take the time to read both Jonathan's and Michael's posts, you will
> >>>>> find that both men are thoughtful, and probably share many of the same
> >>>>> concerns as you do.  I consider myself a conservative libertarian, (not so
> >>>>> much a capitalist as I am one who beleives in protection of free market
> >>>>> enterprise, and I believe that there is a distinction between a, "free
> >>>>> market"  versus an economic system such as capitalism, of which I also
> >>>>> support and subscribe to.   Jonathan and Michael are damn near anarchists,
> >>>>> (and I say that with a smile on my face, I don't think either would agree
> >>>>> with me!!)  but the point being, is that instead of taking the route of many
> >>>>> of the nasty, hateful rhetorical smear merchants from the far left,  (e.g.;
> >>>>> the Wacko left socialist-elitist Moonbats)  who from time to time and on
> >>>>> occasion chime in here;  I would like to think that the thoughtful, well
> >>>>> reasoned conservative voices of Politicall Forum can have discussion, as
> >>>>> well as disagreement with a little more civility!
> >>>>> At any rate,  have a good Saturday....Mine is almost over!
> >>>>> KeithInSeoul
> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:16 PM, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> >>>>>> MJ:  You are NOT wanted on this post!  In the last few weeks you've
> >>>>>> managed to give your cook-booked quotations of others, and your own
> >>>>>> breakfast-table-written "constitution" of sorts.  But you have not
> >>>>>> even gone back into my thread to read about my New Constitution, which
> >>>>>> is detailed in essays that highlight the apt portions of my document.
> >>>>>> And you obviously have no "Regard$" for anyone but yourself.  ***
> >>>>>> Since my base philosophy is pro-capitalism and pro minimumist
> >>>>>> government, when you attack me�the author-messenger�you are revealing
> >>>>>> yourself to be a socialist and probably a communist.  If it offends
> >>>>>> you that I have figured you out, take your "quotes" and your "regards�
> >>>>>> elsewhere.  You are not wanted here!  ï¿½ J. A. A. �  Patriot
> >>>>>> On Feb 25, 10:45 am, MJ<micha...@america.net>  wrote:
> >>>>>>> And yet ANOTHER fallacy spew.
> >>>>>>> Let's see this panacea of yours. What -- exactly
> >>>>>>> -- are you afraid of? That it is shit?
> >>>>>>> Regard$,
> >>>>>>> --MJ
> >>>>>>> "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the
> >>>>>>> consequences of evading reality" -- Alyssa Rosenbaum
> >>>>>>> At 10:36 AM 2/25/2011, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Dear MJ:  You sir, are a total BUM!  What I have written describing my
> >>>>>>>> New Constitution and how such would be apt to events in the news would
> >>>>>>>> fill several "War and Peace"-size novels.  Not a single WORD of what I
> >>>>>>>> have written supports socialism nor communism!  I am in favor of
> >>>>>>>> having a super-efficient, minimum-size government that has close to
> >>>>>>>> zero interaction with individual citizens.  ï¿½My� government will no
> >>>>>>>> longer keep records on the law-abiding citizens, because taxes will be
> >>>>>>>> value-added, only.  And I have nixed having the government maintain
> >>>>>>>> records of criminal investigations of anyone found to be innocent.
> >>>>>>>> Those on-file records tend to prejudice law enforcement to "convict"
> >>>>>>>> the person they failed to convict the last time.  My corrections of
> >>>>>>>> corrupt law enforcement practices, alone, should be justification
> >>>>>>>> enough to ratify my New Constitution!  Presently, the USA is a police
> >>>>>>>> state�with the strings being pulled by corrupt public figures.  And
> >>>>>>>> the courts have done whatever the political leaders dictate.  I�ve put
> >>>>>>>> them in their place, big time!
> >>>>>>>> You, MJ, are little more than a party-crasher.  I do not appreciate in
> >>>>>>>> the least having you post your elementary version of "A" constitution
> >>>>>>>> of some kind.  Post your God-damned junk constitution under your name,
> >>>>>>>> not mine.  I am not playing games, here.  If you would like to get
> >>>>>>>> back into anyone's good graces, explain your political philosophy in
> >>>>>>>> two paragraphs or less.  Unless I see the words:  ï¿½I pro-capitalist
> >>>>>>>> and anti-socialist�� included, then I will know for sure that you are
> >>>>>>>> just some HACKER who is back-dooring your socialist-communist ideals.
> >>>>>>>> Anyone who says anything at all negative about my ideals can only be
> >>>>>>>> the latter.  ï¿½ J. A. A. �
> >>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 9:40 pm, MJ<micha...@america.net>  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In
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